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Wednesday, September 26, 2007

[ALOCHONA] CTG: Politicans offended by Mainul Hosein

Dear Alochoks

Politicians are a very sensitive lot nowadays. Before they couldn’t care less what ordinary people thought!

Why should Moinul Hosein should say that politicians long for law and order?

And even if they are it is ONLY because Moinul Hosein has convinced them in the first place!

Politicians should stop pretending they are little children treated badly by their headmaster.

They should shut up and get back to the real issue of political reform without Hasina and Khaleda.

Regards

Ezajur Rahman

Kuwait

 

 

Politicians flay Mainul for ‘offensive remarks’
Courtesy New Age 26/9/07

 

Leaders of different political parties, include the Awami League and the BNP, on Tuesday denounced law adviser Mainul Hosein’s remarks questioning sincerity of the politicians regarding law and order.

They termed the adviser’s statement ill-intentioned which aimed at tarnishing the image of politicians and questioned his political past.

‘We have to consider how sincere the political parties are about maintaining law and order before we can relax the state of emergency,’ Mainul told the press on Monday when asked if the government was thinking about lifting the emergency.

He also said that the state of emergency was declared due to political reasons and before the emergency was relaxed, it should be taken into consideration if political situation had improved.

‘The politicians have not created any such problems after the imposition of the state emergency so that one needs to keep watch on their behaviour,’ Awami League presidium member Matia Chowdhury told New Age, adding that the problems cropping up during the regime of the interim government are the results of the government’s failure.

She accused the adviser of frequently making offensive remarks on politicians and said everybody knew about his political ideology.

‘He need not advise the politicians how to behave,’ Matia added.

The BNP secretary general, Khandaker Delwar Hossain, said the adviser was trying to put up a ‘smokescreen’ by questioning the politicians’ role whenever the issue of lifting ban on politics was raised. ‘He is making indecorous comments [on politicians] just to put up a smokescreen,’ Delwar said adding, ‘In fact, the people are closely monitoring what they [government] are doing for restoration of democracy.’

The Workers Party president, Rashed Khan Menon, said that there was no scope to link lifting of the emergency to the behaviour of politicians.

‘His [Mainul] remarks were not correct and it was an attempt to put blame on the politicians with ill-motive,’ he said.

Talking to New Age, the Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal president, Hasanul Haq Inu, said that only the people, not the law adviser, were to watch the behaviour of the politicians.

‘Such remarks from the government side were unexpected and unnecessary,’ Inu said, adding that it was unfortunate that the adviser considered the politicians as their rivals, although the politicians had been co-operating with the interim government since it took office.

 

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[ALOCHONA] Khaleda: ACC may sue Tarique Zia

Dear Alochoks

Many BNP people like to say that Tarique has not been charged, that he is innocent and that he is being held for political reasons alone.

I have no problem if he is held for political reasons alone.

But it is good news that he is to be sued shortly.

Good riddance.

Regards

Ezajur Rahman

Kuwait

 

 

 

ACC likely to sue Tarique today
Courtesy New Age

 

The Anti-Corruption Commi-ssion is likely to file a case today against Tarique Rahman, the detained elder son of the BNP chairperson, Khaleda Zia, who is also detained in jail, on charge of submitting false wealth statements.

‘The case was scheduled to be filed with the Kafrul police by the Anti-Corruption Commission’s deputy director Zahurul Huda tonight, but it could not be filed as the first information report was not readied till 7:30pm.,’ said a source in the commission Tuesday evening.

Zahurul Huda told New Age on Tuesday that the case would be filed this morning after getting permission from the commission chairman, Hasan Mashhud Chowdhury.

‘The commission, during preliminary investigations, unearthed Tarique’s assets beyond his known source of income, and he [Tarique] would be sued on charge of owning ill-gotten wealth,’ a source to close the investigation told New Age.

Tarique claimed in his statement submitted to the commission on June 10 that he owned Tk 78.39 lakh in assets apart from a house at Gulshan on lease and five tolas of gold ornaments.

The joint forces arrested Tarique on extortion charges on March 8, about six month before the arrests of his mother, Khaleda Zia, also a former prime minister, and his younger brother, Arafat Rahman, at his house in the Dhaka cantonment.

The commission on May 29 notified Tarique, also senior joint secretary of the BNP, to submit his wealth statements.

Khaleda, now in a special jail after her arrest on September 3 on corruption charges, also submitted her wealth statements showing that he owned two houses at Gulshan and the Dhaka cantonment, and more than Tk 3.54 crore in bank accounts and fixed deposits.

The matter is under investigation by the anti-graft task forces on serious crimes and corruption, the official said.

 

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[ALOCHONA] FW: AL : Joint secretary's wife jailed

Dear Alochoks

The fight against corrupt BNP and Awami League politicians continues.

No doubt Obaidul Kader, joint secretary of Awami League, is responsible for getting his wife into such trouble.

How he must be praying for democracy so that he can escape justice!

Would the law, during an Awami League government, have convicted him or his wife?

Never!

Ezajur Rahman

 

 

 

Obaidul Kader’s wife jailed for 8 years
Courtesy New Age 26/9/07

 

Ishratunnesa, wife of former state minister and Awami League joint secretary Obaidul Kader, was jailed on Tuesday for eight years after trial in her absence on charge of evading taxes by concealing information in her tax files.

Shamsunnahar Begum, the judge of the special judge’s court 4 of Dhaka, set up at the MP Hostel in the Jatiya Sangsad Complex, also ordered confiscation of two flats, owned by Ishratunnesa, at Moghbazar and Segun Baghicha in Dhaka.

The court convicted her on two counts — suppressing information in tax files and evading taxes — and fined her Tk 2 lakh.

If she fails to pay the fine, she will need to serve one more year — six months for each offence — in jail, the court ruled.

Ishratunnesa was sentenced to imprisonment for five years for suppressing information and three years for evading taxes. The sentences will be executed after her arrest or surrender as she is in hiding.

The court ordered concurrent execution of the sentences for which she would need to serve the maximum sentence of five years. Assistant commissioner (taxes) of the National Board of Revenue, Nigar Sultana, filed the case with the Dhaka senior special judge’s court against on August 7 for evading taxes by suppressing information on her wealth of Tk 88.76 lakh.

 

 

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[ALOCHONA] Weekly holiday

Dear all,
 
Shouldn't this government declare sunday as the weekend? If it is declared and followed from now on, by Dec'08 people will be familiar to it, and oppose to change by later government.
 
Regards
 
Shamim 


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RE: [ALOCHONA] Islam and politics in Bangladesh


Dear Shamim Choudhury

In your long discussion starting from 1st Caliphate to the end of Turkey caliphate you wanted to prove that Islamic state hood is inefficient. Come out from that area of discussion the part of history, just see what happen to secular Bangladesh in 1974. Why Sheikh Muzib with whole of his family member were killed? Why Ziaur Rahaman was killed? So, historically, what we see killing is a means of capturing the power which has no relation with any political ideology what ever it has merit.

 

Killing the Islamic caliphate was done by some miscreant of that society but it was not a Islamic killing. Therefore, any wrong doing by any miscreants can not be an ultimate choice for the whole Muslim Ummah to be secular in their statehood life.

 

The problem I found with you, you are mixing democracy and ideology together in your total discussion.

 

What is democracy? It just says to us who will and how will ridden to the power to govern the country. But still democracy is not an ideology itself to run the society. Still we have to decide the society will run on communism, socialism, capitalism or Islam?

 

The essence of Islamic statehood is far more efficient then any political system in world.

 

I mean which is not only addressing the leadership of the state but to establish the whole mankind on equal respect, dignity and equal economic opportunity. No political system in the world could show up such ideological system.

 

You have some allegation against Jamat but I strongly denied those allegation – killing, raping etc. which can not be done with such jamat workers. Who was razakar…. ? they are those people who voted for Awami league and later joined in Razakar Bahini for a monthly salary of TK 90/- mostly rickshaw driver or wood cutter without any political identity. 66 elected Awami MP also joined with Pakistan. Zamat e islami supported Pakistan politically (as voice) not taking arms in hand. Reason to support they could not believe India. Others were supporting Pakistan, such as Muslim League, Nizam e Islam , Olema e Islam, PDP, Communist Chinese groups, USA and China. Killing was done during liberation by Pakistani Army and their sub agencies and after liberation mass killing done by mokti bahini. Any brave true speaker must speak as such. Moreover, Yehiya Khan was an army ruler not democratically elected president of Pakistan. So whole issue was a complex thing. But Bangladesh is a reality on 16 December, 1971. All parties pro or against become loyal to Bangladesh. Therefore, after 35 years only those people will make this issue again who can not sell themselves in the political market

 

I will request you to do some more research on Jamat e islami. Read their books: Banga & Gara, Hakikath series (5 small books), Islami Andalan O Sangaton, Islami Andalan Shafailler shartabali, Islami Andalaner karmider parashparik shamparka. Shaitter shaikka

 

After read those books then you will be able to discuss about Jamat e Islami correctly. Now whatever you saying about Jamat are not correct any jamat e islami reader will laugh on your writings.

 

Thanking you

 

Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan

Kuwait

 

 



To: veirsmill@yahoo.com
From: veirsmill@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:58:43 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Islam and politics in Bangladesh

 
 
Dear Alochok Ezajur               ,
Greetings. before I go into your current discussion let me ask you a question in refer to your posting on August 31st of 2007 (#8329 of 8436) with Alochona forum.
 
Brother, I do not remember I ever posed as a neutral person, so what you discovered from my posting is not clear to me till today!  Since I started writing in the net, I openly said I am a member of Bangladesh Awami League. You can search the net with my name and you will find in plentiful posting where I claimed my self as Awami worker, and I am proud of that.
 
I am not sure whether you will agree or not but I found it is interesting that predominance of Awami supporter are not covert but overt. On the other hand majority of Jamaat, BNP and present army back government are ashamed of their identity therefore do not want to disclose their political distinctiveness!  May I hope you will come forward and let the netters know your political affiliation or you may choose to act same as those characters I mentioned above?
 
Anyway, let me come to your recent posting and present my two cents. I do agree with a hefty area of your thoughts. Yes indeed, it is shameless unquestionable defeat of morality of mainstream politics that triggered the rise of politics of religion based on falls perception not only in Bangladesh but in almost all countries of the world especially in Muslim majority country.
 
However, that dose not proves by any means that the standing of religion-based politics is right. It remains as one of the most inhuman unworthy system to try that failed miserably many moons ago. With all its shortcoming democracy remains most compassionate and trustworthy political system yet until we find something new and obviously better.
 
Politics based on theology and theocratic state is nothing new but a very old phenomenon, perhaps the oldest among all other school of politics. World has witnessed the rise and fall of theological political estate from east to west and north to south of our dear globe. Especially theocratic states based on Christianity and Islam become chunk of our medieval history.
 
Whether it is Christian or Islamic state, all of theology based statehood collapsed not by outsiders but insiders.  Who saw it as blockade for human development and against the very essence of why God created his kingdom with different skin colors, difference of opinion, creed, linguistic barrier, physical differences and so many other significant dissimilarity to test how we coincide and coexist with each other and still do justice?
 
Theological state remains viable as long there was good leaders who evidently created state based on theology but ruled with justice of universality. But as time passed by morality of those leaders collapsed and it not only left a chilling effect on the society but also bankrupt the very base of religion it self. The very mathematics of ruling statehood changed. Theology for mankind replaced by rule of aristocracy of royals in the name of thology. Thus, the end of the morally of bankrupt theological state collapsed and usher the rise of state with collective leadership now what we call democracy.
 
If you look at the history of our Islamic statehood that started in the hand of the most noblemen, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) in Medina collapsed completely not long after his departure. However, there are many arguments whether we should call the statehood of Medina or it was a mere community hood in agreement.
 
In absence of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) Islamic state or community in agreement failed as able leaders of caliphate died or killed by insiders. After the disappearance of Caliphate a Rashidun.
 
Hazrat Abū Bakr (RA) nominated Hazrat Umar (RA) as his successor on his deathbed, and there was consensus in the Muslim community to his choice. His successor, Hazrat Uthman, was elected by a council of electors (Majlis), but was soon perceived by some to be ruling as a "king" rather than an elected leader. Hazrat Uthman was killed by members of a disaffected group. Hazrat Alī then took control, and although very popular, he was not universally accepted as caliph by the governors of Egypt, and later by some of his own guard. He had two major rebellions and was assassinated after a tumultuous rule of only five years. This period is known as the Fitna, or the first Islamic civil war.
 
Mu�wiyya, a relative of Uthman, and governor (Wali) of Syria became one of Hazrat Alī's (RA) challengers. After Hazrat Alī's (RA) death, Mu�wiyya managed to overcome other claimants to the Caliphate. Under Mu�wiyya, the caliphate became a hereditary office for the first time. He founded the Umayyad dynasty. We know the sad story of Karbala where Prophet Muhammad’s grandsons were killed in the hands of Umayyad who eventually formed the Umayyad dynasty.
 
From the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) the Umayyad, Abbasid, and finally Ottoman (sultans of Turkey) dynasties held successive caliphates. Caliphate ended when Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, as part of his reforms, constitutionally abolished the institution of the Caliphate in 1924.
 
Scattered attempts to revive the Caliphate elsewhere in the Muslim World were made in the years immediately following its abandonment by Turkey, but none were successful.
 
Hussein bin Ali, a former Ottoman governor of the Hejaz who aided the British during World War I and revolted against Istanbul, declared himself Caliph two days after Turkey relinquished the title. But his claim was largely ignored, and he was soon ousted and driven out of Arabia by the Saudis, a rival clan that had no interest in the Caliphate.
The last Ottoman Sultan Mehmed VI made a similar attempt to re-establish himself as Caliph in the Hejaz after leaving Turkey, but he was also unsuccessful. A summit was convened at Cairo in 1926 to discuss the revival of the Caliphate, but most Muslim countries did not participate and no action was taken to implement the summit's resolutions.
 
However, the King of Morocco adopted the title Ameer al-Mumineen and Mullah Mohammed Omar, former head of the now-defunct Taliban regime of Afghanistan, claimed neither any legal standing nor authority over Muslims outside the borders of their respective countries.
 
Brother Ezajur, the only reason why I explained (Lot of these are not mine but from facts copied from history) is only to explain one and one reason.
 
Degradation of morality not only happened in democratic politics today but also long before that we witnessed the similar or perhaps more cynical and dangerously sleeping down in politics based in religion.
 
Now let me come to my point, with above said it is clear that there is no consensus among Muslim since the end of Caliphate of Rashidun to reestablish the statehood in its true essence. What we see in the name of Islamic statehood is nothing but mockery of Islam and rather rule of dynasty instead of rule of collectiveness. A mad man like Mullah Mohammad Omar of Afghanistan can claimed to establish some sort of Caliphate. On the other hand, there is country like Bangladesh who created a façade of Islamic Republic, which is based on nothing but so-called utopian Islamic state. It character is such that drunk womanizer a dishonest man like Gen. Ershad has to give the legitimacy by his military sermon to declare Bangladesh a Islamic Republic.
 
Jamaat-E-Islami and most of Islamic political entity in Bangladesh (elsewhere too) wants to establish the state based on Islamic theology such as Caliphate is nothing but another travesty and a slap over our religion. Jamaat or no other Islamic leader in Bangladesh or else where has the moral authority to form such government.
 
Just think who are the people who lead this so-called Islamic party in Bangladesh, Golam Azam, Matiur Rahman Nizami self-proclaimed war criminals, master minder of thousands of Bengali during our liberation war are in the forefront of Jamaat-E-Islami of Bangladesh. Mr. Ezaj, please think and then tell me what morality you see on these traders of religion, murderers and thugs
 
It is sad that people with conscious mind are not uniting to start a movement not just to wipeout these religious traders for the sake of Bangladesh but for the sake of Islam as well. Just few days ago so called Islamic party in Bangladesh name Hizbut Tahrir which even does not believe in Bangladesh constitution (read their own statement from their website and speeches) carried out a rally under police protection violating emergency rule. In different time, government allowed these organizations to grow or at least sustain to carry their agenda.
 
Jamaat-E-Islami is the most undemocratic political organization in Bangladesh, it is not just my saying but there constitution reveals that. I will urge readers of this forum to collect Jamaat-E-Islam’s constitution to read and verify my claim.
 
I have intention to write about deception of Jamaat-E-Islam’s constitution from its cover page to its entirety in near future along with need of reform of all other political party including my own ideological platform Bangladesh Awami League.
 
For the betterment of Bangladesh and Islam, we ought to stand against Jamaat-E-Islami and all other traders of religion and must not be recognized them as a political or religious entity but a clandestine organization to create Fitna among Muslim just as the first Fitna or Islamic Civil War created during Caliphate of Hazrat Ali (RA).
 
Sincerely
Shamim Chowdhury
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Dear Alochoks
I would just like to make the following comments â€"
It may be argued that governments should not be the custodians of morality. This is the case in the West. On the other hand, governments have many moral obligations and are required to pass, and enforce, laws that should not be immoral. Morality may ultimately be a personal matter, or a matter for organised religion. But morality is certainly, at whatever level, within the remit of governance.
It is the failure of morality in centre politics that drives people away towards extreme politics.
In Bangladesh there has been a total breakdown in morality in centre politics. There is no mention of morals, no expectation of morals and no claim of moral responsibility. This has pushed many people into the arms of radical Islam.
Until centre politics can prove that it is worthy of trust there is no chance at all of even negotiating with Islamic radicals.
All our brightest minds combined with all our liberal geniuses combined with all the logical minds in the world will not defeat radical Islam if they cannot prove that morality is at the heart of centre politics. In Bangladesh Khaleda and Hasina have destroyed morality in centre politics and thus radical Islam has grown stronger and stronger during their democratic governments.
It is hilarious to see that so many people across the board condemn Jamaati Islam as traitors and criminals â€" and Jamaati Islam just gets stronger day by day. In 1971 one would have been lynched for even suggesting that one day the men of Jamaati Islam could become ministers. And yet Mujib, Zia, Ershad, Khaleda and Hasina all compromised with Jamaat. Why?
It is because the political parties could never compete with Jamaat when it came to perceived morality. This is because morality was never an issue for political parties.  Each of our leaders encouraged corruption â€" and therefore encouraged moral decay.
Even today some our most talented people, most educated people are attracted to Jamaati Islam.
If the cartoon is immoral then it sure isn’t going to be Awami League or BNP that are going to make a stand against it! Jamaat came out in force against the cartoons and there is nothing and nobody in Bangladesh that can do a thing about it. The courts may keep the cartoon in the paper â€" but they won’t stop Jamaat protesting emphatically!
As for the cartoon itself â€" I wasn’t offended. But I would be offended if the Danish cartoons were printed in Bangladesh! How does a cartoon depicting Prophet Mohammed as a dog sound? Liberal? Modern?
Looks like we’re half way to getting rid of Hasina and Khaleda. If and when that happens there can be true reform of centre politics in Bangladesh. If true reform happens then centre politics â€"where you and I belong â€" can take on the radicals.
Until then you just got to admire the confidence of Jamaat! The mad Mullahs sure don’t look worried!
Regards
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
 




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Re: [ALOCHONA] Get rid of Pakistani Ghost!

Mr. Mahbubur
Any comment on your Jamaat's Jinnah cap & Sherwani?? For that matter how about the name itself.
Any comment on  Bangladesh nationalist party?
The country is going through a phase of polarization pro Bangali, secular or anti Bangali nonsecular, at one stage everybody will be exposed as they are.
You can't fool all the people for all the time.....
 
 
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