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Tuesday, October 30, 2007

[ALOCHONA] Re: Public Reaction on "General Amnesty 2007 in Bangladesh (by emails), CTG is loosing Public Support now

Dear Alochok Mithu

An amnesty can work only after people realise what they have done. In
Bangladesh an amnesty is a waste of time because people will continue
as before. In fact they will laugh in the face of the amnesty.

Don't lose heart just because of mounting criticism of the CTG. Some
of the criticsm is deserved and some is undeserved. And the lack of
support of the masses has yet to be proven to be substantial or
critical.

You should also look closely at those who criticise the CTG. Many of
them are rabidly BNP or AL partymen who don't want the CTG to succeed
anyway.

By all means critcise the CTG on substance. But don't lose heart.

Regards

Ezajur Rahman

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, <zubair.najib@...> wrote:
>
> This may be failure to you but I see this differently. This govt.
with
> so little political experience running one of the most corrupt
country
> for only 9 months.
> You guys looking solution overnight. We have 50 years of
manipulation to
> destroy every institution of this country. After independence, anti
> independence party throws bags of money to then political parties to
> remove them from razakar list.
> I see success to this government my reinstating some dignity to
some of
> the institution specially ACC, EC and judiciary. They are not there
to
> fix economy since they do not have political mandate. But they are
> trying. The success also lies on the successful election and I am
pretty
> sure they are working towards that.
>
> Now this is my opinion. Lot of entities now in Bangladesh trying to
> benefit from the current political vacuum. The vacuum created
because
> leadership not allowed to create in Bangladesh. Political parties
are
> currently morally bankrupt since no leader is emerging. Most of the
so
> called professional politician still trying to house under the
> petticoats of two goddess. The so called politically corrupt
reformist
> who are no less than their leaders to plunder the country are
> politically dead even before they start reform.
>
> The govt. trying to convict one or possibly two goddess and bring
the
> election probably in June, 2008. The people who will be MP in the
next
> parliament will not have strong leader. However vacuum may create
new
> generation of leaders who may not have corruption in their
portfolio.
> Again this is my opinion that this govt. do not want to prolong
beyond
> July since there is no benefit for them.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alochona@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
> Sent: October 30, 2007 3:18 AM
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Public Reaction on "General Amnesty 2007
in
> Bangladesh (by emails), CTG is loosing Public Support now
>
>
>
>
> All,
>
> I am disappointed to see that CTG is loosing the fight to save
> this country for the lack of mass support and one of the big reason
is
> not accepting my proposal which was sent to them on July, 2007.
It's
> like USA is loosing in Iraq for debathication. History will judge
their
> achievement and failure.
>
> CTG just was not careful and did not take this proposal
> urgently. Now CTG is working with part of it, but its too late now
I
> think.
>
> --M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
>

www.amreteck.com <http://www.amreteck.com/>
>

www.changebangladesh.com <http://www.changebangladesh.com/>
>
> "Eng. M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)" <cgmpservices@...> wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:48:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Eng. M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)"
> <cgmpservices@...>
> Subject: Public Reaction on "General Amnesty 2007" in
> Bangladesh (by emails)
> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Proposal Initiator:
>
> This proposal has initiated by Eng. M. M. Chowdhury
> (Mithu) on the behalf of Change Bangladesh Organization, USA
>
> What is Change Bangladesh Organization?
>
> Change Bangladesh Organization (CBd) is a non-profit
and
> non-political organization based in USA. The goal of CBd is to
change
> Bangladesh for better in the field of social, education,
technologies,
> and economical development areas. CBd also promote young generation
> leadership to take the lead of Bangladesh in future.
>
> How is the idea of this proposal evolved?
>
> I have done multiple researches about Bangladesh and
its
> present political and economical situation. I have seen that there
is
> distrust between political parties and CTG about corruption drive
and
> where the country is heading too. As most of you know that when USA
> removed Saddam Hossain from the power, they have removed the Baath
party
> members from all armed forces, any job or institutions in Iraq
which is
> called debaathication. I believe they have made a mistake by doing
that
> without any reconciliation initiative. After few years, USA tried
to do
> reconciliation initiative but they have failed. Jury still out
there,
> but I think that they made a huge mistake not doing a national
> reconciliation initiative to include Baath party members in the
Govt.
> They did not do that initiative for multiple reasons but that for
> another part of the discussion. I am not comparing Bangladesh to
Iraq,
> but I am comparing the substance of it. We need to ! bring the
trust of
> the people in Bangladesh Govt to be successful both politically and
> economically and this proposal will lead to that end goal. This
> proposal is not soft on crime and was developed without any
consultation
> with any political parties or Current Takecare Govt (CTG). This
> proposal does not support corruption. This is purely my idea and I
want
> to see good from this proposal. I am not related to any political
> parties or CTG in Bangladesh.
>
> Why do we need Amnesty in Bangladesh now?
>
> Corruption is a cancer for Bangladesh and it is
> happening for the last 36 years. Current corruption drive is good
for
> Bangladesh but it has some consequences. At least 90% of
politicians,
> 35% businessmen, and 50% Amla are corrupt. We can argue about
small or
> big corruption. If I have put the figure in number, I personally
think
> at least 10 million people in Bangladesh are corrupt range from
small to
> big. I do not think that we can round up all these people, put in
the
> courts, get justice and keep in the jail for the next 3-30 years.
> Bangladesh Govt does not have the resources, money or facilities to
> continue this corruption drive and this is not feasible. I also
like to
> point out that CTG advisor Mr. Matin has mentioned recently that
current
> corruption drive has to continue by the next Govt to remove
corruption
> from the country. ! We need a good faith reconciliation initiative-
> General Amnesty 2007.
>
> Who will not be covered in this amnesty?
>
> Who are murders, who have existing cases, who are
> already guilty by the courts will not be covered under this amnesty.
>
> What is the procedure of this amnesty?
>
> This amnesty will be divided in three phases:
>
> Phase I - Politicians including grass root level.
> Phase II - Business people
> Phase III - Amla and rest of the country p! eople.
>
> Phase I will cover during September 1- October 30,
2007
> Phase II will cover during November 1 - December 30,
> 2007
> Phase II will cover during January 1 - February 28,
2008
>
> How will Bangladesh gain from this amnesty?
>
> I am hoping that Bangladesh Govt will cover the
current
> budget deficit using the collected money from the local and foreign
> countries which was deposited by the corrupt personnel. I also
believe
> that corrupt person will help to bring his/her corrupt money from
> foreign banks as good faith by this Amnesty. It is very tough to
bring
> money from foreign banks unless individual cooperate. Recent
reports
> indicated that not a penny was collected from the foreign countries
bank
> yet. This initiative might help to reach that goal. I am projecting
> that at least TK 20,000 Crore can be collected from these corrupt
> individuals and deposit to Bangladesh Govt. This might be lesson
for
> the future corrupt persons that money will be collected which was
made
> illegal means and future punishment will be harsher.
>
> Is this amnesty feasible?
>
> CTG has to take multiple initiatives including
creating
> independent body of institute to check and balance to make sure
human
> rights is observed and respected, and no individuals is harassed
during
> and after the amnesty. CTG will hire more resources to cope with
this
> amnesty and procedures.
>
> Rule of Amnesty:
>
> 1) CTG will circulate a memo Title "General
Amnesty
> 2007" through media and all concern institutes in Bangladesh and
abroad.
> This memo will mention the following items:
>
> a) Please surrender all your illegal earned
> including money, properties, business etc and pay the tax on untaxed
> money by August 29, 2007. You will not be jailed and be forgiven
for
> your corruption. CTG will collect all your illegal wealth through
> proper procedures and deposit to Bangladesh Treasures.
>
> b) CTG will keep the corruption drive.
>
> c) CTG will complete the court procedures against
> all jailed individuals within 90 days. If any of the jailed
individual
> comes forward and accepts his/his crime and apologies to the people
of
> Bangladesh, CTG will forgive him/her and he/she will not be release
from
> jail, but all his/her illegal wealth will be taken away. He/she
will
> not be able to take nomination in the next general election. He/she
> will able to take nomination in future election if no further
> corruption/crime is committed by the individual.
>
> d) He/she will able to apply for jobs in any
> position in Govt, public, and private sectors.
>
> e) No harassment will be allowed for this pardoned
> individual after the amnesty/settlement.
>
> f) Amnesty individual name will not be in the
list
> of corrupt persons.
>
> 2) If corrupt individuals do not come forward to
CTG
> by August 29, 2007, if he/she is caught and proved by the court for
any
> corruption case, he/she will have minimum jail time of 10 years and
all
> his/her wealth will be taken away.
>
> 3) This amnesty is appropriate for everybody
> regardless of religion, parties, and business.
>
> Public Reaction on the Amnesty:
>
> For the Amnesty (62.5%):
>
> (summary) This amnesty will close the gap of distrust
> between political parties and CTG. This will help to elect new set
of
> honest and educated MPs in the next general election. This amnesty
will
> help interim CTG to focus on various critical issues rather than
just
> corruption in Bangladesh (i.e. , conduct free and fair election by
the
> end of 2008, controlling the essential prices, create ski! lled
> manpower, diverse export industries, develop investment oriented
> policies, reduce poverty, building infrastructures, educational
reform,
> etc
>
> Against the Amnesty (22%):
>
> (summary) This amnesty will encourage corruption in
> future because they will let go after corruption. Corrupt people
will
> be in power again maybe not immediately. This amnesty means soft on
> crime. This amnes! ty might keep the family politics in place.
>
>
> Don't know what to say (15.5%):
>
> (summary) They said that they support anything that is
> good for the country. They like this initiative but curious! about
> implementation process.
>
> Support Needed:
>
> Change Bangladesh Organization, USA needs your
> endorsement including NBRs, media, business leaders, and political
> parties in Bangladesh to encourage the CTG to adopt this plan.
>
> Mild Suggestion:
>
> The questions about if this CTG has constitutional
> authority to give the amnesty or not, and who I am to tell CTG to
what
> to do in Bangladesh, this should be separate part of the discussion
and
> I do not like to be part of it.
>
> My Profile:
>
> I am the CEO and Founder of Amreteck(r) LLC, a Leading
> Pharmaceuticals Service and Financial Advisor Company
> (www.amreteckpharma.com <http://www.amreteckpharma.com/> ). I am
also a
> Senior Validation Engineer at Elan Pharmaceuticals Inc,
Gainesville, GA.
> I also the Senior Advisor for multiple Pharmaceutical companies in
> Bangladesh and is consulting on building the US FDA compliant
> pharmaceuticals manufacturing plant in Gazipur, Bangladesh.
>
> I am a Chemical Engineering graduate from the City
> College of New York of City University of New York and working on
his
> MBA on Health Care Management. Prior coming to USA, I was a
student of
> Residential Model College in Dhaka, Bangladesh and earned double
stars
> (A+) status for the SSC and HSC examinations.
>
> Prior to Amreteck(r) LLC, USA, I have worked in Pfizer
> Inc, Aventis-Sanofi, Schering-Plough, Dow Chemical, Progenics
> Pharmaceuticals Inc and Elan Pharmaceuticals Inc. I am responsible
for
> validating all types of Solid Dosage equipments, facilities,
utilities,
> laboratory systems, cleaning validation, process validation, and
> technology transfers. He is involved with defending multiple
> pharmaceutical companies during US FDA facilities inspections and
> Pre-Approval Inspections (PAI) for new p! roducts. Prior
experiences
> include equipment, cleaning, process, facilities, utilities,
laboratory,
> computer validation, aseptic filling line validation, automated
> lyphilization and loading equipment validation, and electronic
change
> control system supervision and has completed US$11 Million aseptic
> filling line project in Pfizer Inc.
>
> I was a member of Lions Club in Bangladesh and a
Public
> Relation Officer for American Institute of Chemical Engineering
(AIChE),
> USA. I am a member of International Society of Pharmaceuticals
> Engineers (ISPE) and a member of Amer! ican Management Association
(AMA)
> in USA . I am a Director of Change Bangladesh Organization, a non
> profit and non political organization based in USA. I live with his
> wife and a daughter at Flowery Branch, Georgia, USA. In my spare
time,
> I enjoy tennis, sailing, and traveling.
>
> Volunteer Works
>
> 1) Initiator of the project: Building the
International
> Technology Academy (TITA) in Bangladesh. This project will create
> skilled workforces in various sectors in Bangladesh.
> (www.changebangladesh.com <http://www.changebangladesh.com/> )
>
> 2) Initiator and sponsor of the project: Kalma Senior
> Citizen Center at Munshigonj, Bangladesh. This project will feed
and
> provide living space for the seniors (50+ years old) who can not
support
> themselves and do not receive any support from their family like
> children.
>
>
> Contact Information
>
> M. M. Chowdhury, Chemical Eng, Senior Validation Eng,
> MBA (On going)
> CEO, Amreteck LLC, USA
> Director, Change Bangladesh Organization, USA
> Phone: 678-858-5952
> Websites: www.changebangladesh.com
> <http://www.changebangladesh.com/>
>

www.amreteckpharma.com
> <http://www.amreteckpharma.com/>
>
> Emails: Mchowdhury@! amreteckpharma.com
> <mailto:Mchowdhury@...>
> Chow7402@... <mailto:Chow7402@...>
> cgmpservices@...
> <mailto:cgmpservices@...>
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RE: [ALOCHONA] Intelligence threaten to kill BNP Gen. Sec if not comply within 24 hrs!

there r number of lunatic bdeshis...who have all the time on earth....to criticize CTG....they do not want to give credit to CTG for punishing the biggest thieves in bdesh.....we can not put all the corrupt elements in prison...we dont have legal or prison resources.....what these big -mouth citizens were doing ...in the past years....to voice against the corruption of previous govts?? how many times they questioned...the need of having 4-6 cars/jeeps for the opposition party leader in such a poor country...who bought those cars for hasina....why people did not challenge khaleda in court..about nourishing corruption.....now CTG is trying their best to clear mess of many years.....
 
i wonder...people who want these corrupt leaders back....if actually....they get money....for such stupid publicitiy..
 
we need to get rid of these corrupt elements...by any means......for a better, peaceful future...
 
hasina ...khaleda  and other thugs should realize that...their days are over.....
 
 
dr. maqsud Omar
sydney






To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: shossain456@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:13:18 -0700
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Intelligence threaten to kill BNP Gen. Sec if not comply within 24 hrs!

This kind of disturbing behaviour will backfire. I thin General Moeen and the Army are involved to create a chaotic situation so that they can take the power over. This is certainly different from other military rulers in Bangladesh. General Zia and Ershad lured the others with carrots to join their own party but never staged a coup in any large political parties. I am worried whether similar incident would be staged for Awami League. My analysis is this regime is already got panicked because of failures in various fronts. After the next election (I doubt it would be held in 2008), every action of this undemocratic government will have to be ratified. Otherwise, they will go to the "Lal Ghar". So they want a rubber stamp Parliament by an election through massive vote rigging similar to Musharraf's Pakistan.

Shafqat Anwar <anwarshafqat@hotmail.com> wrote:
This is a very disturbing development and will have far reaching negative consequences. The CTG or the Military Administration cannot directly interfere in the internal affairs of a political party. This also indicates that some quarter is very active in implementing a hidden agenda. This shameful and uncivil initiative will neither bear any good for democracy nor for the so-called political reforms ! 
Regards,
Shafqat     


From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
To: Shamim_Personal chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Intelligence threaten to kill BNP Gen. Sec if not comply within 24 hrs!
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:06:02 -0700 (PDT)

Dhaka, Oct 29 (bdnews24.com) – Former BNP MP Md Akhteruzzaman Monday claimed that two senior officials of an intelligence agency had asked party secretary general Khandaker Delwar Hossain to leave his post in 24 hours.
 
In a written statement to the media, he said the officials had allegedly asked Delwar to go to the house of former finance minister M Saifur Rahman by 7:30pm Monday and declare Saifur the party's acting chairperson and Abdul Mannan Bhuiyan secretary general.
But Akhteruzzaman, himself a former military officer, did not specify which intelligence agency the officials belong to.
 
Retired major Akhteruzzaman confirmed that he had sent out the press statement when bdnews24.com contacted him.
 
The former MP, whom the BNP expelled for his outspoken criticism of party leadership, also alleged that the intelligence agents had threatened to kill Delwar unless he complied with the order.
 
The officials went to Delwar's home Sunday, he said.
Delwar, last seen in BIRDEM hospital Monday evening, could not be reached immediately for his version of events.
 
"They not only threatened the secretary general but aimed verbal abuse at me. If necessary, they will even kill me for helping Delwar," he said.
 
Akhteruzzaman told bdnews24.com by phone that he was not present when the officials arrived at Delwar's NAM flat on city's Manik Miah Avenue, but that his statement was based on what Delwar said to him.
 
The officials allegedly told Delwar that "Begum Khaleda Zia will not be allowed anymore to do politics on the soil of Bangladesh", the statement said.
Akhteruzzaman sought intervention from the army chief and said people expected "rule of law".
 
"Nobody is above the law," he said.
"It's not the job of an intelligence agency or officials of such agency to decide who will be the party's secretary general, the president or who will do politics," said Akhteruzzaman, former MP from Kishoreganj-2 constituency.
 
"Everything has a limit. I think government officials—military or civilian—should not stretch the limits of responsibilities, nor should they go out of their way."
 
bdnews24.com contacted information adviser Mainul Hosein for comment.
Mainul only said: "I would not comment on it as I did not read the statement."
bdnews24.com/jr/ad/2237 hours 
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[vinnomot] RE: Chora: Eki bole Rajakar!!!

Nice and timely. Write more.

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>Subject: Chora: Eki bole Rajakar!!!
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:10:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [vinnomot] Re: BNP Secretary General Delwar disappears from BIRDEM

Mr. Shamim Chowdhury,

Bangladesh's President has two main duty :


First : To accecpt the credentials of Foreign Ambassadors.

Second : To attend Janaja Prayer of VVIP's.

President Yazuddin Ahmed can perform  such duties without any difficulty  with his current physical condition.

Yes, during the time when elected government hand over power to a caretaker government suddenly he becomes powerful because Defence Ministry will remain under his control.

I never said that President Ahmed should resign rather he should stay until another President is elected by a new Parliament. In absense of elected Parliament he cannot handover President's duty to any Jodu/Modhu.

Bangladesh's constitution has no provision for Vice President's position.

If he is unable to perform his duty for any reason Parliament Speaker will perform his duty temporarily.

Personally I believe BNP has more competent leaders than Delwar Hossain who can do the job more effectively.

If he is sick he needs medical attention not press attention.

Sincerely,

Mohiuddin Anwar

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[vinnomot] Re: BNP Secretary General Delwar disappears from BIRDEM

Mr. Mohiuddin, what you think about President Iajuddin who is known to most people as JINDA LASH. He could not even perform his duty as president for few months and we had to look for Jamiruddin to replace him.

 

If you think Khondokar Delwar is not a fit to manage big political organization such as BNP for health reason then I am sure you want President Iajuddin immediate removal as his physical condition is many fold worst then BNP Secretary General Mr. Delwar

 

If Mr. Delwar is not fit to mange BNP then President Iajuddin is no way fit to govern 14 crore people of Bangladesh. I wish him long life but probability of him dying of a heart attack at any moment is not unlikely.

 

Thanks for opting to remove President Iajuddin

 

Shamim Chowdhury

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> Mr. Delwar Hossain is already physicallly unfit to run a big party like BNP. He should receive medical treatment than active politics for the greater interest of the party.
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Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: I pledge to help Change Bangladesh not by changing my own status

Dear Mr. Rahman:

What in the world are you talking about? Please clarify in simple language free of demoguery, harangue.

So the solution to all of Bangladesh's problems will magically disappear just by simply removing Hasina and Khaleda. We have obviously no other issues! If simple elimination (by hook or by crook) had worked BD would have been a champion Asian Tiger decades ago!

I am afraid you have been showing early signs of delusion with a belief in the infallibility of your opinions.  A dangerous concoction!  But please do carry on with our khoshamod culture (something which pre-dates Hasina & Khaleda, you will surely agree), your words must sound like sweet nectar in the ears of our current crop of rulers.

Robin Khundkar

-----Original Message-----
From: ezajur
Sent: Oct 30, 2007 11:21 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: I pledge to help Change Bangladesh not by changing my own status

Dear Alochoks

The email below is of course a reply to Alochok Mithu and his Change
Bangladesh organization – and all those who think remotely similarly
to him - people like me : )

He describes Change Bangladesh by using terms like deceitful,
opportunist, ill motive, no ethics, no ideology, power monger, buy
the right to govern, merchant of lies and perfidy, treachery, etc…

At the very least Mithu is sincere and at worst he maybe wasting his
own time. But to describe him in such a way is simply ridiculous.

Well lets go for the easiest point.

Bangladesh has never suffered because of Mithu or people like him. I
am like him. And there are thousands of others who think like him,
dream like him – and who want to act like him. I may not advertise
the fact like him but that is a matter of taste. No worse than that.

Compare his criticism of Mithu – with his criticism of Bangladeshi
politicians. Mithu is worse than Bangladeshi politicians? Change
Bangladesh is worse than Awami League or BNP?

This is the stinking hypocrisy, the devilish dishonesty that has
ruined Bangladesh. Not the well intentioned – if at times misguided –
efforts of Bangladeshi expatriates.

We can fight for the cessation of logging in the rain forests in
Indonesia, the protection of the ice in the Antarctic, the rights of
indigenous people in Brazil, the victims of Palestine and Darfur and
Bosnia, the disappearing fish in the Atlantic, the death sentence in
the USA, the bondaged child slaves of India, the victims of Serbia,
the freedom of Burma's true heroine, but for Bangladesh, land of my
father, land of my son – just shut up and talk when you are spoken to.

Hi welcome to Bangladesh. Leave your money here. Marry our children.
Then go away and don't interfere. RUBBISH!

If it wasn't such a damn mess people like Mithu wouldn't have to
spend their time and money trying to save Bangladesh. There is not
even the appearance of vision or ethics in Bangladeshi politics.

Those who don't admit the truth are far more arrogant than those who
demand the right to make a difference.

I urge forum members to step up and speak their mind about whatever
they want, however they want. There is no restriction, no limit. Its
your country too as much as this is your world too. As much it is
their country and their world.

They can't challenge Hasina or Khaleda but they like to lecture us
about democracy and the limitations of expatriates. The hell with
them.

Bangladesh needs courage, vision, expertise and patriotism. It needs
it desperately. Our country needs it wherever it can find it. And if
some of it can be found in Toronto, New York, London, Sydney or
Timbuktu – then that is very good news indeed.

For every one political/party person who tells us to keep quiet there
are a 1,000 wanting us to get involved.

I pledge to challenge, offend and insult every third rate or corrupt
leader, minister or mp – and those who support them. I state here
effortlessly that I, Mithu and a 1,000 other expatriates, would make
a better MP than at least 50 of the MPs in the last parliament.

The critic should leave Maryland he thinks he is getting a half baked
foreign education and go back to Dhaka where he can fully bake his
own degree certificate for a few bucks.

Mithu – you do whatever you believe is right, whatever you think will
help the country, the soil and the people that you so obviously love
with a passion. Be aware of the dangers and challenges ahead and
learn from the mistakes that you will innocently make.

And ignore those who think you can't do whatever you want to for the
people you love just because your are 1,000s of miles away. Wht is
more important is your sincerity and you values. Especially ignore
those who challenge you more loudly than they challenge Hasina and
Khaleda.

Regards

Ezajur Rahman

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear all, in recent days some people who are neither here nor there
but
> simply extreme deceitful opportunist has started campaign to change
> Bangladesh!
>
>
>
> In there ill motive thought process, people of Bangladesh is not
worthy
> enough to govern them self. Some expatriate so-called experts have
to
> put their golden hands to change Bangladesh.
>
>
>
> There mission is to get nomination from any political party by
lobbying.
> No ethics, no ideological stand but pure power monger mentality is
their
> driving force.
>
>
>
> Seating or half lining in their entertainment room̢۪s cozy Lazy
> Boy chair they make their plans about Bangladesh and its poor
people.
> Giving few dollars collected from charity to flood victims wants to
buy
> the right to govern them. Becoming self appointed solicitor for
> nominating members of parliament for upcoming election in Bangladesh
> from twelve thousands miles away.
>
>
>
> This is just a continuation of sad story of our nation where no one
> wants to give anything without getting anything. It seems, to these
> people the only way to change Bangladesh is by becoming master of
the
> land.
>
>
>
> People of Bangladesh want individual and organization from foreign
land
> with no intention to rule but with solid commitment to help for the
sake
> of help. However, we always saw they come with a bagful of goodies
to
> lure us into their trap and then fill their bag with all the goodies
> that they can put their hands on.
>
>
>
> To attract the commoners they always use titles and ornaments longer
> then their names after and before their given name to display put
them
> in display. Because they know, their wisdom is not enough catchy to
> attract peoples attention. They cannot prove themselves worthy to
have
> people faith on them.
>
>
>
> These merchant of lies and perfidy know no boundary and ready to do
> anything to reach their Mokama Maksud.
>
>
>
> Enough is enough, let Bangladesh survive, and let people of
Bangladesh
> choose their destiny. Those of us in foreign land let us lend our
> helping hand not with our lust but love. Not that WE change
Bangladesh
> but help our nation to change on their own for the good. Our hunger
for
> power will be treachery to people who goes hungry everyday.
>
>
>
> I propose, all Bangladeshi in foreign land who love Bangladesh come
> forward and say aloud we do not want to govern Bangladesh. We do not
> want license, permit or position by selling our title and half-
cooked
> education. Nevertheless, we will not allow any cheating go
unchallenged
> in this regard and truly remain on guard to uncover this conspiracy
> against our country and its people.
>
>
>
> We will change Bangladesh and go forward not by changing our own
status
> but by encouraging and helping people of the land to stand on their
own.
> I truly believe beyond doubt that there are thousands of people in
> Bangladesh to compete for 300 parliamentary seats in upcoming
election.
> Thinking us expatriates as any better or rightful for this position
in
> parliament is not just mockery but cruelty as well. Anyone who
wants to
> compete for any parliamentary constituency have to stay and work
for the
> people of that locality for five to ten years before they can
consider
> themselves to run for election.
>
>
>
> I will urge the forum members to come forward and promise to work
for
> Bangladesh and publicly pledge that you will not seek nomination for
> upcoming election in Bangladesh.
>
>
>
> I Shamim Chowdhury hereby pledge on this day of October 19, 2007
not to
> run as a candidate for upcoming election but lend my hand and
knowledge
> to the best of my ability for my beloved country Bangladesh. I will
not
> put banners for recognition of my work nor will I support anyone who
> does so, so help me God.
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Shamim Chowdhury
>
> Maryland, U.S.A.
>

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[ALOCHONA] Re: Attention blind supporters of CTG

I am glad to note that you are coming to some senses. Congratulations for that.

 

Mr. Ejaz, I believe that we have different priorities. My first priority is price of potato. Your financial position is much elevated than me so it is not a matter of concern for you. Instead, as you said your concern and no. 1 priority is that Hasina and Khalida should be removed as prime ministerial candidates.

 

Mr. Ejaz, as a common man in Bangladesh, for me everything rotates around the price of potato. I hate to say it because people like you will never understand how difficult it is getting day by day by a middle class or low middle class man like me to meet the both ends. But why shall I tell you all this. For you price spiral is nothing new.

 

Mr. Ejaz, when this CTG came to power, everybody (of course with some exceptions), was happy because their drive was against corruption. What they are conspiring now to pardon the same very corrupt businessmen by forming truth commission. These very businessmen are responsible for the price hike in the country. I along with all sensible citizens smell rat in it. There must be some underhand deal which hopefully will come to public after 2008 election (if there will be).

 

Mr. Ejaz did I ever said that living abroad is weakness in such matters. I failed to understand what weakness you are talking and what matters you are mentioning?  But I tell you there are many people who are living outside the country but understand the problem of a common man in the country.

 

Mr. Ejaz who is responsible for the slave wages of Bangladeshi workers in the Middle East. Only people like you. You enjoy parties with the Embassy Staff you socialize with them and enjoy your vacation at least once a year. But tell me honestly have you ever raised the issue of minimum wage of a Bangladeshi laborer. Never, because your priority no. 1 is different.

 

You proudly said that Bangladeshi laborers are providing massive chunk of foreign exchange to the country. You forget to say how. An unskilled laborer has to spend Taka 150,000 to 200,000 to go to a Middle Eastern country. Generally, his contract is for 3 years and his salary per month is Taka 3500 to Taka 4000. Means if he save every penny he makes still he can not retrieve all he spend to come over. So what is the only choice for him, part time job or illegible means? Did you saw it? No because your priority no. 1 is different. It may hit your ego but I don't mind if they are "dirty cleaner" as long as they don't have to spend that much to go abroad and they are paid properly.

 

And Mr. Ejaz I did not call you dishonest when I said and I quote" don't make Khaleda and Hasina scapegoats for your dishonesty." Unquote. That was a figure of speech only and I never meant you. Anyway I apologize for that.

 

And you are talking about the reforms in political system imposed  by CTG. We have seen the very dirty example of it today for BNP. Just wait and see how many days it last. Are you looking for this type of reforms?

 

In more thing Mr. Ejaz. It is none of your business to say who should keep his wife, who should divorce her and who should not be allowed to divorce her. I know you are an elite and an intellectual. Everybody can not think like you but you don't have any right to impose your opinion on others like this way.

 

And Mr. Ejaz I know it antagonizes you but I am telling you again and I will tell again and again that we may not be No.1 nation in the world but definitely we not nation of beggars. We do have some self respect. Mr. Ejaz tell me honestly, do you belong from Jamaat? Otherwise you should have little bit of self respect as a nation.

 

As I said in the beginning, my priority no.1 is my survival. I can survive only if the price of potato is within control. To me it does not matter much who is running the Government as long as people's will is respected and I can survive. I can not argue with you further as your priority is different. You are least bothered about people's choice but only want Hasina or for that matter Khaleda should not be the prime minister. So whom you want to be the prime minister? Nizami or Mujahid?

 

With lot of regards

 

Junaid

 

 


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
> Lets keep it even more simple.
>
> My only concern is that Hasina and Khaleda should be removed as prime
> ministerial candidates. They can be in jail or paradise or Baridhara -it makes no difference to me. It is my only concern because this is the number one priority. Until these two are removed there can be no real reform. Period.
>
> Fakhruddin and his men are not above the law or above criticism. You must urge them to change approach or policies if needed. However
> many pretend they want the CTG to succeed but actually they want it
> to fail. Their attacks are poorly disguised (to me) as constructive
> criticism. And they are hardly ever challenged.
>
> Price spirals and economic slumps are nothing new. The suffering of
> our people is nothing new. The insult to people's intelligence and to
> people's integrity is nothing new. The sliding taka is nothing new.
> The common man having to urinate in the street is nothing new. Please
> don't justify your points with these arguments. The common man
> deserves much more than the talk of cheap potatoes. He needs a
> lasting solution to the political malaise in the country.
>
> You presume too much in saying living abroad is a weakness in such
> matters. The country has been ruined from the inside – not the
> outside. Rather I would say you don't care that a million of your
> countrymen - with Deshi passports - are forced to work abroad for slave wages and provide a massive chunk of our foreign exchange – and are called miskin. Come here to the Middle East and talk of your sovereign pride when Bangladeshi is an Arabic word for dirty cleaner.
>
> I didn't say we were sentimental beggars. I said if what you say is
> true then we are sentimental beggars.
>
> Don't use the language of politicians – it's an easy bluff to say we
> may not be the number one nation but we are this or that. We are one
> of the most corrupt countries in the world with one of the most
> ridiculous politics in the world – that is talking facts and facing facts. Admit it. That is all I want.
>
> What about 2008? If what you want happens – then Hasina and Khaleda
> return as before. That makes you happy? Why?
>
> REFORMS ARE NOT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF POLITICAL PARTIES. Spare me
> the democratic bravado. Moeen is pandering to the media. If he is a realist he knows these two parties cannot really reform with Hasina and Khaleda as leaders.
>
> Reforms are on the table BECAUSE of the CTG. Not because of what you
> imagine are really noble democratic ideals in Bangaldeshi politics.
>
> How am I making Hasina and Khaleda scapegoats for my dishonesty?
> Please explain. Even now you, along with many others, protect them.
> It is ridiculous and far more insulting than anything I have said.
>
> For I have said we can move forward without them.
>
> And you say – however discretely - we cannot move forward without
> them.
>
> You are praying for the CTG to leave with dignity. Thanks. Me too.
>
> When are you ever going to pray for Hasina and Khaleda to leave with
> dignity?
>
> I am not a blind supporter of CTG. This country was not – and has not
> been ruined – by blind supporters of the CTG.
>
> IT HAS BEEN RUINED BY BLIND SUPPORTERS OF HASINA AND KHALEDA.
>
> But you don't like talking about the real causes of our actual problems. So lets talk about the price of potatoes instead.
>
> Regards
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Ejaz
> >
> > I am sorry that I failed to make your eyes open. It is not good for
> > you and for the nation if very learned people like you are blind
> > folded. Please re-read what you have written. I very firmly believe
> > that you yourself will not feel good. I urge you to cool down. I
> and
> > you know that you are arguing for the sake of argument only
> > otherwise your arguments have no substance. Mr. Ejaz use of
> > difficult words will not let you win the argument. Simple and plain
> > words will make you understand better.
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, if I am not mistaken you are not living in Bangladesh. It
> > seems that you are least bothered about the suffering of commoners
> > in the country. Yours only and only consideration is that Khaleda
> > and Hasina are in jail. Do you realize the sufferings of common man
> > by price spiral? The economy of the country is sliding. But for you
> > it hardly matters, as your Kuwaiti Dinar is giving you more
> > Bangladeshi takas as price of taka is falling constantly. You are
> > still in the game of cards. Man, life is not a game of cards. In
> > real life spade is a spade and it is not the spade of cards.
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, I don't know about others but I will take it lightly when
> > you call ours a nation of sentimental beggars. After all you are
> > living in a place, where may be you are called "Muskeen" all the
> > time and that remains in your conscious and sub-conscious. We may
> > not be no.1 nation in the world but definitely we are not nation of
> > beggars.
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, did you ever thought what is going to happen after
> > December 2008. Oh! I am sorry. I should not ask you this question.
> > Anyway your posting is full of contradictions. About reforms, I
> will
> > suggest you to see what your beloved Gen. Moeen had to
> say, "Reforms
> > are internal affairs of political parties."
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, if one is dishonest, what may be the level of it; he
> > cannot justify it by stating that past Governments were dishonest.
> I
> > again say, don't make Khaleda and Hasina scapegoats for your
> > dishonesty. It is not at all acceptable to a common man. But you
> are
> > a very special man.
> >
> > Last not the least, Mr. Ejaz since you are not living in the
> country
> > I am telling you some of the readings on the wall today in
> > Bangladesh. People are talking and concerned about the double
> > standards of CTG. But why should I tell you this as you are a blind
> > supporter of this CTG. However, just pray with me that this CTG
> > leaves power with dignity. We don't want any more bloodshed in the
> > country.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Junaid
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Junaid
> > >
> > > You have every right to call a spade a spade – as long as you
> don't
> > > run out of cards. By all means criticize – but you know well there
> > > are different types of criticism.
> > >
> > > What exactly was your sumptuous choice before Fakhruddin? Lets
> > have some honesty, some modesty. We not only suffer from
> mediocrity –
> > we suffer from mediocrity AND delusions of grandeur.
> > >
> > > What exactly makes you feel so politically wealthy? What are the
> > many
> > > options you have? After AL barristers and BNP barristers throw
> > chairs at each other in the courts what do you think is next in our
> > great democratic journey?
> > >
> > > Your own message betrays the delusions – however sincere – that
> > > blight our nation so cruelly -
> > >
> > > 1. AL and BNP have been ruining the social fabric of the nation
> for
> > > two decades. Yet you can still say this CTG, after less than a
> > year,
> > > is not far behind? You are kidding sir.
> > >
> > > 2. I can see the strong wall of honesty of the CTG - two dozen
> > > citizens – showing cracks. How would you describe the wall of
> > honesty
> > > of AL and BNP governments – more or less honest than the CTG? The
> > > wall was a sham and it is smashed in comparison with the CTG.
> > >
> > > 3. Even now you have the notion we should not make Hasina or
> > Khaleda
> > > scapegoats! What are they? Gods? Is it something about us Bengalis
> > > that doesn't mind two women ruining the country? That we would
> > rather
> > > see them free, running proudly through our green fields, regularly
> > > dumping on the nation's integrity and future?
> > >
> > > 4. Putting Hasina and Khaleda in jail does NOT turn them into
> > > heroines! Heroines for who? You? Or for a nation of sentimental
> > > beggars?
They are not heroines for the majority and this theory is
> > > broadcast only by those who think we aren't capable of much. You
> > can
> > > breathe without Hasina and Khaleda - today. Try it.
> > >
> > > 5. The same ladies who drove our country to disaster are needed to
> > > hold the country together, to initiate and to apply sweeping
> > reforms.
> > > Because? Because you don't think we can handle affairs without
> > them.
> > > Why? Its disgraceful. Its shameful. Its pathetic. Its insulting.
> > >
> > > 6. Hasina and Khaleda are responsible for the mess – NOT the CTG.
> > The
> > > parties were only talking of reform BECAUSE THE CTG APPLIED
> > PRESSURE.
> > > Don't flatter yourself that the parties were ready for the reform
> > the
> > > nation is crying out for. They have neither the character nor the
> > > guts nor the tools to challenge the mafia within them. It is the
> > CTG
> > > that is setting the agenda for reform – not the parties. You may
> > wait
> > > another 10 years for the parties to reform but some know the
> > country
> > > can't wait that long - just to pander to political fantasies.
> > >
> > > They belong in jail. For what they have done, what they have
> > allowed
> > > to happen and for what they are preventing from happening. But you
> > > are worried about consequences. For 20 years you have seen the
> > > consequences of their freedom. But still it is not enough.
> > >
> > > They won't go abroad for a couple of years. They won't resign.
> They
> > > won't won't admit their faults. They won't compromise in their
> > > personal feuding. They won't sacrifice a term. They won't sweep
> > aside
> > > all their corrupt members.
> > >
> > > But you still think we need them?!!! I suggest any man who thinks
> > we
> > > need Hasina and Khaleda should be legally denied the right to
> > divorce
> > > his wife under any circumstances. After all, he should continue
> > > suffering just as he wants the nation to suffer with these two
> > > ladies!
> > >
> > > Or maybe we are nation of Dr Frankensteins - we just can't live
> > > without the monsters we have created?
> > >
> > > If you are right then I am totally convinced – we are indeed a
> > nation
> > > of beggars. Because our politics beggars belief.
> > >
> > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > Kuwait
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The events prior to 1/11 are eye-openers so it is time for
> > everyone
> > > > to open their eyes. We as a nation can not afford to have blind
> > > > supporters of any group. Sorry to tell you Mr. Ejaz, but we are
> > > not
> > > > beggars. We are and we want to be choosers. We have every right
> > to
> > > > call spade a spade. If the past AL or BNP governments with
> theirs
> > > > blunders have brought the country to the brink of disaster, the
> > > > present CTG is not trailing behind with a long distance. Their
> > > > failure list is much longer than their successes. The very
> strong
> > > > wall of the honesty of CTG is showing cracks. You should be
> able
> > to
> > > > see if you are not blind. We should be watchful of each and
> every
> > > > step of this Government and every future Government. Do we need
> > to
> > > > be critical of a Government after expiry of their term (in this
> > > case
> > > > it is 2 years, hopefully) or give them the opportunity to
> rectify
> > > > themselves during their tenure? And don't make scapegoats. We
> > have
> > > > heard enough of these scapegoats in the past. Enough is enough
> > now.
> > > >
> > > > Some may be over joyous that Hasina and Khaleda are in jail.
> They
> > > > are too blind to think about the consequences? The nation had
> > > > started ignoring these two ladies. People were talking about
> > > reforms
> > > > in political parties. By putting them in jail you have made them
> > > > heroes (or herions) again. Since they went in jail no body is
> > > > talking about reforms in political systems. Even Gen. Moeen had
> > to
> > > > say that reforms are internal affairs of political parties.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Not so blind
> > > >
> > > > Junaid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Ezajur Rahman, Bad people and Bad politics of Islam must
> be
> > > > removed
> > > > > not only from Bangladesh but all parts of the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Shamim Chowdhury
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > ---
> > > -
> > > > -----\
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are not allegations against
> > Hasina
> > > or
> > > > > > Khaleda. They are proven facts. Nothing to do with 'after a
> > long
> > > > > time'. After Mujib - Hasina! After Zia - Khaleda!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this CTG is guilty of the same you may criticise it -
> but
> > the
> > > > > > blame lies with Hasina and Kahleda for creating this
> > situation
> > > in
> > > > > > the first place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not praying like the rest of the crooks and thieves and
> > > > > > murderers for a return to AL and BNP governmnet like before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bad people are praying twice as hard as party people for
> > > > democracy.
> > > > > > Because Bangladeshi democracy protects and promotes
> criminals
> > > and
> > > > > > thieves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have no problem with the family ties in this CTG because I
> > > > believe
> > > > > > it was done like this to maintain control in an emergency
> > > > situation.
> > > > > > We have 5 years to judge AL and BNP - we can wait another
> > year
> > > to
> > > > > > see the result of the CTG.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the emantime - how times have changed! Hasina and Khaleda
> > > > spent
> > > > > > Eid in jail!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That makes it all worthwhile!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Miracles do happen!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Allhamdullilah!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mahathir of bd
> > > > > > wouldbemahathirofbd@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are two common allegations
> > > against
> > > > Al
> > > > > > and BNP. But this evil deeds became prevalent after a long
> > time
> > > > of
> > > > > > their power.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But our so called angel government showed nepotism and
> > > > > > family dynasty from the beginning by appointing brother in
> > law
> > > > and
> > > > > > sister in law as advisers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > blind supporters of cTg then said that they are qualified
> > > > > > persons.
> > > > > > >
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RE: [ALOCHONA] Public Reaction on "General Amnesty 2007 in Bangladesh (by emails), CTG is loosing Public Support now

This may be failure to you but I see this differently. This govt. with so little political experience running one of the most corrupt country for only 9 months.
You guys looking solution overnight. We have 50 years of manipulation to destroy every institution of this country. After independence, anti independence party throws bags of money to then political parties to remove them from razakar list.
I see success to this government my reinstating some dignity to some of the institution specially ACC, EC and judiciary. They are not there to fix economy since they do not have political mandate. But they are trying. The success also lies on the successful election and I am pretty sure they are working towards that.
 
Now this is my opinion. Lot of entities now in Bangladesh trying to benefit from the current political vacuum. The vacuum created because leadership not allowed to create in Bangladesh. Political parties are currently morally bankrupt since no leader is emerging. Most of the so called professional politician still trying to house under the petticoats of two goddess. The so called politically corrupt reformist who are no less than their leaders to plunder the country are politically dead even before they start reform.
 
The govt. trying to convict one or possibly two goddess and bring the election probably in June, 2008. The people who will be MP in the next parliament will not have strong leader. However vacuum may create new generation of leaders who may not have corruption in their portfolio. Again this is my opinion that this govt. do not want to prolong beyond July since there is no benefit for them.
 
Thanks
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
Sent: October 30, 2007 3:18 AM
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Public Reaction on "General Amnesty 2007 in Bangladesh (by emails), CTG is loosing Public Support now

All,
 
I am disappointed to see that CTG is loosing the fight to save this country for the lack of mass support and one of the big reason is not accepting my proposal which was sent to them on July, 2007.  It's like USA is loosing in Iraq for debathication.  History will judge their achievement and failure.
 
CTG just was not careful and did not take this proposal urgently.  Now CTG is working with part of it, but its too late now I think.
 
--M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
www.changebangladesh.com

"Eng. M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)" <cgmpservices@yahoo.com> wrote:
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:48:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Eng. M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)" <cgmpservices@yahoo.com>
Subject: Public Reaction on "General Amnesty 2007” in Bangladesh (by emails)
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com

Proposal Initiator: 
This proposal has initiated by Eng. M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) on the behalf of Change Bangladesh Organization, USA
What is Change Bangladesh Organization?
Change Bangladesh Organization (CBd) is a non-profit and non-political organization based in USA. The goal of CBd is to change Bangladesh for better in the field of social, education, technologies, and economical development areas.  CBd also promote young generation leadership to take the lead of Bangladesh in future.
How is the idea of this proposal evolved?
I have done multiple researches about Bangladesh and its present political and economical situation. I have seen that there is distrust between political parties and CTG about corruption drive and where the country is heading too.  As most of you know that when USA removed Saddam Hossain from the power, they have removed the Baath party members from all armed forces, any job or institutions in Iraq which is called debaathication.  I believe they have made a mistake by doing that without any reconciliation initiative.  After few years, USA tried to do reconciliation initiative but they have failed.  Jury still out there, but I think that they made a huge mistake not doing a national reconciliation initiative to include Baath party members in the Govt.  They did not do that initiative for multiple reasons but that for another part of the discussion.  I am not comparing Bangladesh to Iraq, but I am comparing the substance of it.  We need to ! bring the trust of the people in Bangladesh Govt to be successful both politically and economically and this proposal will lead to that end goal.  This proposal is not soft on crime and was developed without any consultation with any political parties or Current Takecare Govt (CTG).  This proposal does not support corruption.  This is purely my idea and I want to see good from this proposal.  I am not related to any political parties or CTG in Bangladesh.
Why do we need Amnesty in Bangladesh now?
Corruption is a cancer for Bangladesh and it is happening for the last 36 years.  Current corruption drive is good for Bangladesh but it has some consequences.  At least 90% of politicians, 35% businessmen, and 50% Amla are corrupt.  We can argue about small or big corruption.  If I have put the figure in number, I personally think at least 10 million people in Bangladesh are corrupt range from small to big.  I do not think that we can round up all these people, put in the courts, get justice and keep in the jail for the next 3-30 years.  Bangladesh Govt does not have the resources, money or facilities to continue this corruption drive and this is not feasible.  I also like to point out that CTG advisor Mr. Matin has mentioned recently that current corruption drive has to continue by the next Govt to remove corruption from the country. ! We need a good faith reconciliation initiative- General Amnesty 2007.
Who will not be covered in this amnesty?
Who are murders, who have existing cases, who are already guilty by the courts will not be covered under this amnesty.
What is the procedure of this amnesty?
This amnesty will be divided in three phases:
Phase I – Politicians including grass root level.
Phase II – Business people
Phase III – Amla and rest of the country p! eople.
Phase I will cover during September 1- October 30, 2007
Phase II will cover during November 1 – December 30, 2007
Phase II will cover during January 1 – February 28, 2008
How will Bangladesh gain from this amnesty?
I am hoping that Bangladesh Govt will cover the current budget deficit using the collected money from the local and foreign countries which was deposited by the corrupt personnel.  I also believe that corrupt person will help to bring his/her corrupt money from foreign banks as good faith by this Amnesty.  It is very tough to bring money from foreign banks unless individual cooperate.  Recent reports indicated that not a penny was collected from the foreign countries bank yet. This initiative might help to reach that goal.  I am projecting that at least TK 20,000 Crore can be collected from these corrupt individuals and deposit to Bangladesh Govt.  This might be lesson for the future corrupt persons that money will be collected which was made illegal means and future punishment will be harsher.
Is this amnesty feasible?
CTG has to take multiple initiatives including creating independent body of institute to check and balance to make sure human rights is observed and respected, and no individuals is harassed during and after the amnesty.  CTG will hire more resources to cope with this amnesty and procedures.
Rule of Amnesty:
1)     CTG will circulate a memo Title “General Amnesty 2007” through media and all concern institutes in Bangladesh and abroad.  This memo will mention the following items:

a)     Please surrender all your illegal earned including money, properties, business etc and pay the tax on untaxed money by
August 29, 2007.  You will not be jailed and be forgiven for your corruption.  CTG will collect all your illegal wealth through proper procedures and deposit to Bangladesh Treasures.

b)     CTG will keep the corruption drive.

c)     CTG will complete the court procedures against all jailed individuals within 90 days.  If any of the jailed individual comes forward and accepts his/his crime and apologies to the people of Bangladesh, CTG will forgive him/her and he/she will not be release from jail, but all his/her illegal wealth will be taken away.   He/she will not be able to take nomination in the next general election.  He/she will able to take nomination in future election if no further corruption/crime is committed by the individual.

d)     He/she will able to apply for jobs in any position in Govt, public, and private sectors.

e)     No harassment will be allowed for this pardoned individual after the amnesty/settlement.

f)       Amnesty individual name will not be in the list of corrupt persons.

2)     If corrupt individuals do not come forward to CTG by August 29, 2007, if he/she is caught and proved by the court for any corruption case, he/she will have minimum jail time of 10 years and all his/her wealth will be taken away.

3)     This amnesty is appropriate for everybody regardless of religion, parties, and business.
Public Reaction on the Amnesty:
For the Amnesty (62.5%): 
(summary) This amnesty will close the gap of distrust between political parties and CTG.  This will help to elect new set of honest and educated MPs in the next general election.  This amnesty will help interim CTG to focus on various critical issues rather than just corruption in Bangladesh (i.e. , conduct free and fair election by the end of 2008, controlling the essential prices, create ski! lled manpower, diverse export industries, develop investment oriented policies, reduce poverty, building infrastructures, educational reform, etc
Against the Amnesty (22%):
(summary) This amnesty will encourage corruption in future because they will let go after corruption.  Corrupt people will be in power again maybe not immediately.  This amnesty means soft on crime.  This amnes! ty might keep the family politics in place.
Don’t know what to say (15.5%):
(summary) They said that they support anything that is good for the country.  They like this initiative but curious! about implementation process.
Support Needed:
Change Bangladesh Organization, USA needs your endorsement including NBRs, media, business leaders, and political parties in Bangladesh to encourage the CTG to adopt this plan.
Mild Suggestion:
The questions about if this CTG has constitutional authority to give the amnesty or not, and who I am to tell CTG to what to do in Bangladesh, this should be separate part of the discussion and I do not like to be part of it.
My Profile:
I am the CEO and Founder of Amreteck® LLC, a Leading Pharmaceuticals Service and Financial Advisor Company (www.amreteckpharma.com).  I am also a Senior Validation Engineer at Elan Pharmaceuticals Inc, Gainesville, GA.  I also the Senior Advisor for multiple Pharmaceutical companies in Bangladesh and is consulting on building the US FDA compliant pharmaceuticals manufacturing plant in Gazipur, Bangladesh. 
I am a Chemical Engineering graduate from the City College of New York of City University of New York and working on his MBA on Health Care Management.  Prior coming to USA, I was a student of Residential Model College in Dhaka, Bangladesh and earned double stars (A+) status for the SSC and HSC examinations. 
Prior to Amreteck® LLC, USA, I have worked in Pfizer Inc, Aventis-Sanofi, Schering-Plough, Dow Chemical, Progenics Pharmaceuticals Inc and Elan Pharmaceuticals Inc.  I am responsible for validating all types of Solid Dosage equipments, facilities, utilities, laboratory systems, cleaning validation, process validation, and technology transfers.  He is involved with defending multiple pharmaceutical companies during US FDA facilities inspections and Pre-Approval Inspections (PAI) for new p! roducts.  Prior experiences include equipment, cleaning, process, facilities, utilities, laboratory, computer validation, aseptic filling line validation, automated lyphilization and loading equipment validation, and electronic change control system supervision and has completed US$11 Million aseptic filling line project in Pfizer Inc. 
I was a member of Lions Club in Bangladesh and a Public Relation Officer for American Institute of Chemical Engineering (AIChE), USA.  I am a member of International Society of Pharmaceuticals Engineers (ISPE) and a member of Amer! ican Management Association (AMA) in USA .  I am a Director of Change Bangladesh Organization, a non profit and non political organization based in USA.  I live with his wife and a daughter at Flowery Branch, Georgia, USA.  In my spare time, I enjoy tennis, sailing, and traveling.
Volunteer Works
1) Initiator of the project: Building the International Technology Academy (TITA) in Bangladesh.  This project will create skilled workforces in various sectors in Bangladesh. (www.changebangladesh.com)
2) Initiator and sponsor of the project: Kalma Senior Citizen Center at Munshigonj, Bangladesh.  This project will feed and provide living space for the seniors (50+ years old) who can not support themselves and do not receive any support from their family like children.
Contact Information
M. M. Chowdhury, Chemical Eng, Senior Validation Eng, MBA (On going)
CEO, Amreteck LLC, USA
Director, Change Bangladesh Organization, USA
Phone: 678-858-5952
                www.amreteckpharma.com
             Chow7402@aol.com
             cgmpservices@yahoo.com

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