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Wednesday, November 21, 2007

[vinnomot] We strongly protest against all the politicians acting against Taslima and protecting Islamists

Audio file:
Taslima vinnomot.com Biplab Pal
 
Participants: Prof Nazimullah, Mr Omar Huda, Mr Quddus Khan,Biplab Pal, Rahul Guha, Debasis Ganguly
 
Please send your protest to
We will soon publish a page in www.vinnomot.com on Taslima issue.
 
Our Bengali identity is under attack from all the corners-let raise your voice through articles, voice, video--www.vinnomot.com is behind you! Time is so critical if you do not raise your voice , our proud Bengali heritage is already out the drain.
 
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RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Jamaate Islami ..... Awamist

If anybody say so it was defensive not the aggressive. Is Awami is a civilized faction of the society?  How they can burn a bus with full of passengers???????????? How they can kill across Bangladesh in one day 28 people (28 October, 2006)?????? How they take out Railway line by the name of Hartal ? How they kill a man while he was on his duty travelling with krishi bank document to Chittagong from swandip and Awamist killed him on preamble that he is a Jamathi because of his beard (a Muslim identity). When his dead body taken to his home in that time his wife were delivering their first baby. How pathetic !!!!!!!! Awamist kindly be woke up. Kindly be civilized. 

 

Dog at a time breed 12 finally he has no control over who dying where and biting to whom. Are the same all Awami street people ????????

 

28 October, It was power handing over ceremony by the Jamath and BNP why you went there and attacked the those people? Do you have any program in that day in that place ? Vidio footage is witness how you have killed the jamath e Islami people and how you were dancing on their dead body. Shame, shame. You have destroyed the reputation of Bangladesh politics and politicians. You are all power greedy people. 

 

Today we are millions of baggers on the street due to you.


 

To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: m_musa92870@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:27:48 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Jamaate Islami .....................................

Mr. Ramjan,

I hope you have seen this news article from Daily Ameder Shomoy (link is at the bottom)



I like to assure you that the slogan above (morle Shahid, bachle Ghazi) belongs exclusivley to Jamaat and Shibir.  Additionally, I like to add that Jamaat cannot fool the general public with its outward religious appearance.  The voters know it's basically a fascist party.  The proof is in their performance in all the elections they participated.  I also checked the 1970's election result - Jamaat won only 4 seats out of 313.  Even back then in Islamic Republic of Pakistan time, they were so much unpopular.  Please read the last paragraph of the following link that shows Jamaat's performance in last three elections in Bangladesh:

http://prothom-alo.com/archive/news_details_home.php?dt=2007-11-02&issue_id=416&nid=MTE1Njg=

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@...> wrote:
>
>
> Cyrus Zulkarnaïan Kazi
> I don't want to have any debut with you. You have already expressed your views about Zamath and as well as on Islam. Ok comes out from Islamic teachings and norms. What we have seen by the secularist (Awami), how they are killing Zamath workers at Dhaka city:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LvDjppNH5U
>
> Kindly watch
>
> So this the world without Islam where you all stands for.
>
> Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> Kuwait
>
>
>
> To: alochona@...: cyruskazi@...: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:44:39 -0500Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Jamaate Islami has more corrupt people than any other party!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Ramjan:
>
> A pseudo-political party that is founded upon morally corrupt, intellectually vacuum, and inhumane principles of the Wahabis under the disguise of Islam, a group of people that has such a notorious history of ruthlessness, little or no regard for human life, and that banks on the ideologically fragile and spiritually lost - calling such a platform of hatred, bigotry, ignorance, and repression "Clean" is, in my opinion, equally morally and intellectually vacuous.
>
> If ever, the saddest day befalls upon our country when the ideology of Jamaat and its group of goons become the governing principles of Bangladesh, I assure you, that will be the day when Islam will fail to represent the message of peace. And when that day arrives, if ever, just like our ancestors who fought so bravely against ideological, social, and political tyranny, many of us would fight until the last goon of Jamaat is sent back to its ideological Mecca, to their racist, sexist, tyrant, slave-owning masters in the Middle-East.
>
> Cyrus Zulkarnaïan Kazi
> On Nov 17, 2007 8:56 AM, Mohammed Ramjan mramjan@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It is unfortunate that your research is misleading in way to understand the Jamath e Islami. Insha Allah in future you can. You have referenced the following news papers which are, have been regarded, as far most anti Islamic and anti Jamath propogator and financed by RAW to better serve the Indo-Jewish-USA interest.
>
> Two minister of Jamath e Islami already have declared if anybody find two Taka Durniti. Three Jamath MP are arrested for the following reason:
>
> MP Dr. Sayed Abu Taher - arrested because an Awami Leaguer filed a case against him that he is a terrorist ????????? in chodda gram Comilla. People of Chudda Gram will give better witness of him.
>
> MP shajahan Chowdhury is arrested by media propagation. 1. He built a Scholl on Government Khash Land, reply : the land was legally taken from the proper authority on which the school is built and serving 100's of poor students in that locality and moreover the school is not his personal property.
>
> 2. He did not include his sold out car in his property list.
>
> Another MP kept the C.I. Sheet in his store just to save it from the thief. The MP established a Krishi College by himself which was under construction. C.I. sheet was granted by Thana Nirbahi Officer and was kept with other construction materials in his store but that was not for his personal use.
>
> Further more this for all parties information that Jamath e Islami is so instrumented and organised that there is no family or personality role inside the jamath. Even if Maulana Matiur Ur Rahaman Nizami do anything wrong he will be quitted from the Jamath instantly. Jamath e Islami is internally very very clean, which, the outer world can not imagine.
>
>
> Bangladesh is now transforming. Insha Allah the future is waiting for the victory of Islam (as politically and social ideology).
> May Allah keep us all on his right path.
>
> Thanking you
>
> Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> Kuwait
>
>
> To: alochona@...: m_musa92870@...: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:52:37 +0000 Subject: [ALOCHONA] Jamaate Islami has more corrupt people than any other party!!!
>
>
> The following link says it all:

http://amadershomoy.com/news.php?id=210490&sys=3

Is there any political party who can stand in front of Jamaat morally? I don't see any.

The following is from Janakantha's editorial:

So based on above analysis, we can say Jamaatis are both war criminals and corrupt politicians. They are the real enemies of the country and we need to bring them to justice for their unconscionable lifestyle (deceiving people with beard and outward sunnah appearance), corruption, abuse of power, hypocrisy and moral political bankruptcies, right? I only thank to Allah for the fact that only 17 MPs were elected from this pseudo-Islamic and pseudo-religious party.

More on Jamaat:

http://www.dailyinqilab.com/november4/pdf/n2.pdf

Please read the last paragraph of the following link from Prothom Alo:

http://prothom-alo.com/archive/news_details_home.php?dt=2007-11-02&issue_id=416&nid=MTE1Njg=
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[vinnomot] Re: [khabor.com] Banglar Manushke Bhate marbo Panite marbo

thanks Mr Delwar Mazumder,
for your nice comments.it is a time befitting posting.

Delwar Mazumder <delwar98@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
 
Assalamu Alaikum. When people from all over the world helping our country to recover from the most devastating hurricane, our Neighboring dada babura stop bringing food from Nepal. Shame on Dada babu and shame on your pa chata dalalra. Please read the news.
 
http://www.amadershomoy.com/news.php?id=213664&sys=3
 
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[vinnomot] Muslim rally attacked by indian army and police on nadigram n taslima issue in kolkata

[Bengali muslims are not involved in this incident-it was between Bihari Muslims and Calcutta police[calcutta has very few Bengali Muslims]--Millitary didn't attack the rally-neither did police--it was typical Bihari Muslims at their best--listen to Binodon Radio for more accurate analysis: Audio file: (http://is.rediff. com/filemusic. php?id=69799) Participants: Prof Nazimullah, Mr Omar Huda, Mr Quddus Khan,Biplab Pal, Rahul Guha, Debasis Ganguly Moderator ]

dear all,
              indian army and police attacked on a rally of a muslim organisation.who were protesting govt role on talima and nadigram issue.
govt run opression on muslim in india is well known to all.they use to push in bangalee muslims but patronise taslima for her anti muslim activities.
 
see link bellow
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Army called out in Kolkata over
Taslima, Nandigram

Curfew imposed in troubled areas;
schools, colleges closed
The Indian army was called out on the streets of Kolkata when activists of a Muslim forum enforced road blocks across the city and clashed with the police demanding immediate deportation of author Taslima Nasreen to Bangladesh...[ +


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[vinnomot] Re: To MBI Munshi: India's food shortage statistics

Mr Munshi,
1) Mr Sharad Power, agricultural minister of India declared
shortage of food almost 15months back..
2) Response has been posted to Khabor,vinnomot and Banglarnari so
that you get a chance to look. I didn't change my forum--I am co-
ordinating editor of online vinnomot magazine www.vinnomot.com
3) Food crisis is a serious issue. Bangladesh can solve its food
problem by adopting to co-operative mode of farming. Per hector
production in Bangladesh is 40% of what west does typically. With
improved agricultural method, Bangladesh will be self-sufficient. If
you love Bangladesh, that is the solution. Doing politics will not
help to solve the crisis.

I don't know whether you are paid by anti-Indian agencies or not
[I am least bothered]--but let me tell you, ordinary people of
India, Bangladesh, Pakisthan will come together and improve their
relationship--hate-mongers and hate-monegring politics will be
buried too soon in these days of information technology.

Biplab

--- In vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, "M.B.I. Munshi" <mimunshi@...>
wrote:
>
>
> I had not realized that you had taken this discussion
> to Vinnomot as well. It is usually a common courtesy
> to inform the other discussants that you are changing
> forum. I think this shows a great deal of insincerity
> on your part. I tried to follow the link you provided
> but it goes no where. In any case the article you
> provided refers to shortfalls in rice and wheat but
> the Indian government has banned export on several
> essential food items for more than a year and it is
> these that have seen the sharpest rise in prices. So
> basically your link explains nothing since rice had
> not shown the steepest price escalation in recent
> months in Bangladesh. I should also inform the reader
> that Bangladesh Online Forum, Chottala and Daily
> Online Alochona are also all party to this
> misinformation perpetrated by Indian intelligence RAW
> as they only put uo selective discussions that favours
> Indian interests and perspectives.
>
> Regards
>
> MBI Munshi
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Dr Biplab Pal <biplabpal2000@...> wrote:
>
> > It seems MBI Munshi wanted me to cite some reference
> > as to the level of shortage of food in India-I never
> > received his letter -neither I do visit forums
> > regularly. Here are some statistics --it is about 5
> > million ton for this year. There was so much of
> > media debate on it in India I thought Mr Munshi, who
> > writes so much on Indian design, must be knowing it.
> > I am surprised with such a little knowledge on
> > India, he writes book on India's design!
> >
> >
>

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Cons_Produc
ts/India_may_have_to_import_rice/articleshow/2493816.cms
> >
> > NEW DELHI:The country could face a supply shortfall
> > of up to 5 million tonnes of rice, according to
> > indepedent estimates given to the consumer affairs
> > ministry, threatening India with exposure to rice
> > imports.
> >
> > Annual rice production and consumption figures
> > from 2003-04 to 06-07 show a steady increase in the
> > latter by around 1-1.5 million tonnes each year, In
> > 2006-07, rice production stood at 92.7 million
> > tonnes compared with a consumption of 91.8 million
> > tonnes.
> >
> > With the existing tight supply on wheat this year,
> > the demand for rice is not expected to be lower than
> > 1.5 million tonnes, and could be higher, in fact.
> > However, kharif rice production has been pegged at
> > the same level as last year for 07-08, at 81.15
> > million tonnes, notwithstanding concerted mega food
> > security programmes for increasing acreage such as
> > the National Food Security Mission (NFSM), after key
> > states such as Punjab, Haryana, W Bengal and MP
> > reported marked loss in acreage and crop this year
> > at the recent National Conference on Rabi Campaign,
> > signalling the dangers on domestic rice supply. In
> > addition, rabi rice production is about 10.5-11
> > million tonnes.
> >
> > In all, that makes it around 92 million tonnes of
> > rice for the crop year compared with an average
> > projected consumption of around 94 m tonnes. In
> > view of the shortage in wheat supply — wheat buffer
> > level with the Centre is expected to be lower than
> > prescribed on April 1, 2008 — and accoutning for
> > population growth, consumption of rice (including
> > PDS, welfare schemes, food security buffer and open
> > market sales) is expected to be higher this year,
> > closer to 96 million tonnes or higher. Even going
> > by tautly scripted maths, the supply shortfall in
> > rice, therefore, is expected to be close to 5
> > million tonnes. By January 1, the PDS shortfall is
> > projected at atleast 3 m tonne, in addition to
> > another 2 million tonnes shortage on the buffer
> > levels.
> >
> > What spells worse news is the country's negative
> > experience with wheat imports from the global
> > market, where the price is seen to escalate in a
> > marked manner once India intervenes with a massive
> > and sudden demand for food grains. "The pace of the
> > country's population growth and the pace of increase
> > in consumption and demand for foodgrains besides the
> > prevailing economic situation ill, infact, precludes
> > high priced imports on a regular basis to maintain
> > food security as a non-viable option" a sectoral
> > analyst said.
> >
> > Significantly, the current exigencies on the rice
> > production and supply front should explain why there
> > is intense pressure on the Centre to announce,
> > perhaps for the first time ever, a second bonus for
> > paddy so soon after a belated bonus was announced
> > just recently.
> >
> >
> > var RN = new
> > String (Math.random()); var RNS =
> > RN.substring (2,11); b2 = ' ';
> > if (doweshowbellyad==1)
> > bellyad.innerHTML = b2;
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [vinnomot] To MBI Munshi: India's food shortage statistics

I had not realized that you had taken this discussion
to Vinnomot as well. It is usually a common courtesy
to inform the other discussants that you are changing
forum. I think this shows a great deal of insincerity
on your part. I tried to follow the link you provided
but it goes no where. In any case the article you
provided refers to shortfalls in rice and wheat but
the Indian government has banned export on several
essential food items for more than a year and it is
these that have seen the sharpest rise in prices. So
basically your link explains nothing since rice had
not shown the steepest price escalation in recent
months in Bangladesh. I should also inform the reader
that Bangladesh Online Forum, Chottala and Daily
Online Alochona are also all party to this
misinformation perpetrated by Indian intelligence RAW
as they only put uo selective discussions that favours
Indian interests and perspectives.

Regards

MBI Munshi


--- Dr Biplab Pal <biplabpal2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It seems MBI Munshi wanted me to cite some reference
> as to the level of shortage of food in India-I never
> received his letter -neither I do visit forums
> regularly. Here are some statistics --it is about 5
> million ton for this year. There was so much of
> media debate on it in India I thought Mr Munshi, who
> writes so much on Indian design, must be knowing it.
> I am surprised with such a little knowledge on
> India, he writes book on India's design!
>
>
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Cons_Products/India_may_have_to_import_rice/articleshow/2493816.cms
>
> NEW DELHI:The country could face a supply shortfall
> of up to 5 million tonnes of rice, according to
> indepedent estimates given to the consumer affairs
> ministry, threatening India with exposure to rice
> imports.
>
> Annual rice production and consumption figures
> from 2003-04 to 06-07 show a steady increase in the
> latter by around 1-1.5 million tonnes each year, In
> 2006-07, rice production stood at 92.7 million
> tonnes compared with a consumption of 91.8 million
> tonnes.
>
> With the existing tight supply on wheat this year,
> the demand for rice is not expected to be lower than
> 1.5 million tonnes, and could be higher, in fact.
> However, kharif rice production has been pegged at
> the same level as last year for 07-08, at 81.15
> million tonnes, notwithstanding concerted mega food
> security programmes for increasing acreage such as
> the National Food Security Mission (NFSM), after key
> states such as Punjab, Haryana, W Bengal and MP
> reported marked loss in acreage and crop this year
> at the recent National Conference on Rabi Campaign,
> signalling the dangers on domestic rice supply. In
> addition, rabi rice production is about 10.5-11
> million tonnes.
>
> In all, that makes it around 92 million tonnes of
> rice for the crop year compared with an average
> projected consumption of around 94 m tonnes. In
> view of the shortage in wheat supply — wheat buffer
> level with the Centre is expected to be lower than
> prescribed on April 1, 2008 — and accoutning for
> population growth, consumption of rice (including
> PDS, welfare schemes, food security buffer and open
> market sales) is expected to be higher this year,
> closer to 96 million tonnes or higher. Even going
> by tautly scripted maths, the supply shortfall in
> rice, therefore, is expected to be close to 5
> million tonnes. By January 1, the PDS shortfall is
> projected at atleast 3 m tonne, in addition to
> another 2 million tonnes shortage on the buffer
> levels.
>
> What spells worse news is the country's negative
> experience with wheat imports from the global
> market, where the price is seen to escalate in a
> marked manner once India intervenes with a massive
> and sudden demand for food grains. "The pace of the
> country's population growth and the pace of increase
> in consumption and demand for foodgrains besides the
> prevailing economic situation ill, infact, precludes
> high priced imports on a regular basis to maintain
> food security as a non-viable option" a sectoral
> analyst said.
>
> Significantly, the current exigencies on the rice
> production and supply front should explain why there
> is intense pressure on the Centre to announce,
> perhaps for the first time ever, a second bonus for
> paddy so soon after a belated bonus was announced
> just recently.
>
>
> var RN = new
> String (Math.random()); var RNS =
> RN.substring (2,11); b2 = ' ';
> if (doweshowbellyad==1)
> bellyad.innerHTML = b2;
>
>
>

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[ALOCHONA] Travesty of Justice

During their last five year rule, BNP-Jamaat not only broke all the records in corruption, looting, nepotism and rampant politicization of every sector of the country, they also gave the word "Evil" a new meaning. In many major violent criminal cases, when their people or acquaintances were involved, they tried really hard to implicate the oppostion. In Aug 21, 2004 grenade attacks at Awami League meeting, which killed and wounded a lot of people, even after they received authentic information from Mufti Hannan, they tried to divert the whole scenario by creating stories like Joz Mia and arresting AL ward commissioner Haji Mukhles and torturing him in remand to confess a crime he was not even remotely involved. In Mymensingh Cinema Hall and Jessore Udichi bombings, they submitted charge sheet against Saber Hossain Chowdhury, Hassan Imam, Muntasir Mamun, and many other people affiliated with pro-independence groups. And now we have the following case.



http://ittefaq.com/get.php?d=07/11/22/w/n_txqyum



I like to end with a true story which is about a 2001 pre-election deceptive ploy by none other than Badruddoza Chowdhury, now fallen from his Madam's grace. He and his son created a TV program to highlight and magnify AL era misrule. In one segment he played very dirty. He brought the Qu'ran and Gita to show the difference between BNP and AL. Holding the Qu'ran in right hand and the Gita in left, he asked the audience, "Whom would you vote for? The Qu'ran or the Gita?" And what did we get in return? When politics and religion come together, religion doesn't clean dirty politics; politics makes religion look dirty instead. __._,_.___

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[vinnomot] CTG please do not lift emergency until 100% of collected SIDR funds are distributed to the victims

Dear All,
 
I am asking CTG not to lift Emergency in Bangladesh until 100% of the collected SIDR funds are distributed and all the long term projects are done at the cyclone affected areas in Bangladesh.  Think if this cyclone was happened last few administrations and if they had SIDR funds of approx $500 million dollars,  80% of $500 million dollars would go to MPs, Amlas and grass root political people and maybe 20% of the $500 million would go to the victims and we do not want to see that this time, thanks to CTG for the Jihad against corruption in Bangladesh.
 
I am hearing some noise who are working hard to lift the emergency in Bangladesh by showing the cause and hardship of this Cyclone SIRD.  This will be counter productive to lift the Bangladesh emergency now.  We do not want to see people become crazy to buy luxurious apartments, BMW and other expensive things with the people's money anymore.  BMW dealer might not having enough customers now but we want them to hold tight and expect less business in future for the sake of Bangladesh and its people.
 
You are allowed to give your opinion with facts and real examples, no name calling, or personal attack please.
 
Best wishes,
M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
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[ALOCHONA] CTG please do not lift emergency until 100% of collected SIDR funds are distributed to the victims

Dear All,
 
I am asking CTG not to lift Emergency in Bangladesh until 100% of the collected SIDR funds are distributed and all the long term projects are done at the cyclone affected areas in Bangladesh.  Think if this cyclone was happened last few administrations and if they had SIDR funds of approx $500 million dollars,  80% of $500 million dollars would go to MPs, Amlas and grass root political people and maybe 20% of the $500 million would go to the victims and we do not want to see that this time, thanks to CTG for the Jihad against corruption in Bangladesh.
 
I am hearing some noise who are working hard to lift the emergency in Bangladesh by showing the cause and hardship of this Cyclone SIRD.  This will be counter productive to lift the Bangladesh emergency now.  We do not want to see people become crazy to buy luxurious apartments, BMW and other expensive things with the people's money anymore.  BMW dealer might not having enough customers now but we want them to hold tight and expect less business in future for the sake of Bangladesh and its people.
 
You are allowed to give your opinion with facts and real examples, no name calling, or personal attack please.
 
Best wishes,
M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
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[vinnomot] To MBI Munshi: India's food shortage statistics

It seems MBI Munshi wanted me to cite some reference as to the level of shortage of food in India-I never received his letter -neither I do visit forums regularly. Here are some statistics --it is about 5 million ton for this year. There was so much of media debate on it in India I thought Mr Munshi, who writes so much on Indian design, must be knowing it. I am surprised with such a little knowledge on India, he writes book on India's design!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Cons_Products/India_may_have_to_import_rice/articleshow/2493816.cms

NEW DELHI:The country could face a supply shortfall of up to 5 million tonnes of rice, according to indepedent estimates given to the consumer affairs ministry, threatening India with exposure to rice imports.

Annual rice production and consumption figures from 2003-04 to 06-07 show a steady increase in the latter by around 1-1.5 million tonnes each year, In 2006-07, rice production stood at 92.7 million tonnes compared with a consumption of 91.8 million tonnes.

With the existing tight supply on wheat this year, the demand for rice is not expected to be lower than 1.5 million tonnes, and could be higher, in fact. However, kharif rice production has been pegged at the same level as last year for 07-08, at 81.15 million tonnes, notwithstanding concerted mega food security programmes for increasing acreage such as the National Food Security Mission (NFSM), after key states such as Punjab, Haryana, W Bengal and MP reported marked loss in acreage and crop this year at the recent National Conference on Rabi Campaign, signalling the dangers on domestic rice supply. In addition, rabi rice production is about 10.5-11 million tonnes.

In all, that makes it around 92 million tonnes of rice for the crop year compared with an average projected consumption of around 94 m tonnes. In view of the shortage in wheat supply — wheat buffer level with the Centre is expected to be lower than prescribed on April 1, 2008 — and accoutning for population growth, consumption of rice (including PDS, welfare schemes, food security buffer and open market sales) is expected to be higher this year, closer to 96 million tonnes or higher. Even going by tautly scripted maths, the supply shortfall in rice, therefore, is expected to be close to 5 million tonnes. By January 1, the PDS shortfall is projected at atleast 3 m tonne, in addition to another 2 million tonnes shortage on the buffer levels.

What spells worse news is the country's negative experience with wheat imports from the global market, where the price is seen to escalate in a marked manner once India intervenes with a massive and sudden demand for food grains. "The pace of the country's population growth and the pace of increase in consumption and demand for foodgrains besides the prevailing economic situation ill, infact, precludes high priced imports on a regular basis to maintain food security as a non-viable option" a sectoral analyst said.

Significantly, the current exigencies on the rice production and supply front should explain why there is intense pressure on the Centre to announce, perhaps for the first time ever, a second bonus for paddy so soon after a belated bonus was announced just recently.


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[vinnomot] CTG please do not lift emergercy until 100% of collected SIDR funds are distributed to the victims

Dear All,
 
I am asking CTG not to lift Emergency in Bangladesh until 100% of the collected SIDR funds are distributed and all the long term projects are done at the cyclone affected areas in Bangladesh.  Think if this cyclone was happened last few administrations and if they had SIDR funds of approx $500 million dollars,  80% of $500 million dollars would go to MPs, Amlas and grass root political people and maybe 20% of the $500 million would go to the victims and we do not want to see that this time, thanks to CTG for the Jihad against corruption in Bangladesh.
 
I am hearing some noise who are working hard to lift the emergency in Bangladesh by showing the cause and hardship of this Cyclone SIRD.  This will be counter productive to lift the Bangladesh emergency now.  We do not want to see people become crazy to buy luxurious apartments, BMW and other expensive things with the people's money anymore.  BMW dealer might not having enough customers now but we want them to hold tight and expect less business in future for the sake of Bangladesh and its people.
 
You are allowed to give your opinion with facts and real examples, no name calling, or personal attack please.
 
Best wishes,
M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
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[vinnomot] Re: [ALOCHONA] Jamati and Moududi Thoughts: An Illustration of Bankruptcy

 

Dear Sabur Vai.

 

 Wa-laikum Salam

 

We are doing our level best at personal levels.

 

I have already instructed my younger brothers (at Bangladesh) to act on that matter and my other family members (at abroad) are also doing the same thing.

 

Thanks for your thought & advice.

 



"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.

Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-0274  500 277 (mobile)
E-mail: srbanunz@gmail.com

N.B.: If any one is offended by content of this e-mail, please ignore & delete this e-mail. I will also request you to inform me - to delete your name from my contact list.

 

On 11/22/07, Sabur Ahmed <captsabur@gmail.com> wrote:
Anu Bhai,
As=salamailukm,.
 
Pl try to find out how we can help storm effected peoplesin Bangladesh from all over the world by Bangladeshi community.
 
cheers.
sabur 

 
On 11/21/07, Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan < srbanunz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Hi liar Shoummo & other liar Jamat - RAZAKAR - Shibir - Paki - Muslim league supporter ,

 

Do not produce lies & spread lies.

 

Read & see the statistics of last few, comparatively, free & fair general elections of Bangladesh (mainly 1991, 1996).

 

But those Jamat - RAZAKAR - Shibir - Paki - Muslim league supporters always "assume" & "think" that they (& their popularity) are 'huge' in number, as the see those in different blogs, in comparison to other.

 
Jamat never got 15% of casted vote in any general election and day by their votes are decreasing!
 
Huge number of the Jamati candidtes lost their "JAMANAT"
 

But this Jamati-Paki-Razakar wrote, "In past three election, Jamaat secured no less than 15% of the total vote count".

 

It is a complete lie and reality is different  

 

Actual statistics are:

 

 

Year

1991

1996

2001 (Highly rigged & controversial )

 

Vote got

NDF

Vote got

NDF

Vote got

Symbol: Party:

 

 

 

 

 

Boat : Awami League

33.73%

5

37.46%

2

40.13%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Balance Scale : Jamat

12.04%

104

8.59%

225

4.28%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paddy Sheaf : BNP

30.81%

59

33.60%

36

40.97%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plough: JP

11.81%

154

16.39%

135

7.25%

*NDF : Number of seats, where deposit were forfeited (JAMANOT BAJEAFTO)

Ref: Election commission of Bangladesh

But, one thing is that Jamat-RAZAKAR-Paki-Muslim league supporters (BNP is cocktail of these).have very "BIG" mouth and they can write; tell lie (& mix of lie & truth) without any hesitation & without any truth.

So, beware of the Jamaat - Shibir - Razakar - Al-Badar - Muslim League - Paki supporter and their cronies (BNP is cocktail of these).

Jamaat - Shibir - Razakar - Al-Badar - Paki - Muslim League (BNP is cocktail of these).will continue to be hated, criticized, damned as it was done in past and will be treated same at now and also be treated same in future, for hundreds and hundreds of years to come!

Bangalee & Bangladesh will fight the same fight they fought in 1971 to get rid of these Jamat-BNP-Razakar-Muslim League-Paki supporter and their cronies.

Finally I am telling to all Jamaat - Shibir - Razakar - Al-Badar - Paki - Muslim League (BNP is cocktail of these - not to assume any bogus data or manufacture & spread lies.

 

But I know it is the usual habit of Paki-Razakar-Jamat-Muslim League supports (BNP is cocktail of these).

 

So, all Paki-Razakar-Jamat-Muslim League supports go back to your 'F(p)akistan'

 

 

 

 

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU) 

 

 

 



On 11/19/07, Shaummo Chowdhury <schowdhury52@yahoo.com > wrote:

Dear Shamim Chowdhury,
 
I enjoyed reading the article attached in your mail. But remember, in past three election, hailed atleast by one major party i.e. BNP or AL as free and fair, Jamaat secured no less than 15% of the total vote count. If you convert these percentage point to equivalent population, considering each voter represent same chunk of population as a mass, that would come to like 2,25,00,000 number of people supporting Jamat. (Considering population of Bangladesh to be 15 crore). This number is bigger than the population of most of countries in the world and almost half of that of influential country like UK.  For every 20 people in Bangladesh, there is atleast 3 person supporting Jamat. And beleive me, those who support Jamat, support it on their own free will. They understand it's mission and vision and very little we and other scholarly alem can do about it.
 The way some people try to just wipe Jamat off with their 'well written' mail is simply astonishing. We should try to respect people and respect their choices. Only then, in return, we can expect respect from others.
 
Thanking you.
 
Shoummo

Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like to reprint this inquisitive article published in a blog on September 25th of 2005 by someone with a nick name as Addabaj about bankrupted political and religious thoughts of Moududi and his creation Jamaat-e-Islami and
Hope you will enjoy reading this article.
Thanks.
Shamim Chowdhury
 
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Sunday, September 25, 2005

Jamati and Moududi Thoughts: An Illustration of Bankruptcy

I?d like to assure Adda?s readers that I absolutely have no personal or political agenda in Adda. I feel ethically obligated to express my thoughts and ideas independently and objectively when most of the Islamic and nationalistic ideas in Bangladesh are basically bankrupt, distorted and politically biased. Jamati Islami, as a fundamentalist and extremist Islamic party in Bangladesh, needs to look at their misdeeds and misrepresentation of Islamic thoughts that really hurt them and absolutely undermine the Muslim world.

Jamatis inherited their Islamic ideologies from Moududi, a Pakistani literary scholar who has never had any in-depeth Islamic knowledge and background even he appears to be as an Islamic scholar to Jamatis and its followers. Basically, Jamatis read his ?Tafhims? (explanation of Holy Quran) as text books and frequently use them as references. Tafhim was considered controversial about different statments on prophethood and sunnah. Any literate person can browse books in this regard that highlighted distortion in Moududi's thoughts. Moududi, like Jamati leader Golam Azam, lacks any academic background and expertise in Islamic teaching. Yet, their books and booklets are text books for Jamatis that simply ignite their Jihadi political spirits based on narrow and misleading explanations of Islamic tenets. Philosophically, Jamatis follow the Taiymiah explanation and thoughts that have narrowly followed basic Islamic beliefs and drastically lacked the Prophet (PBUH) and his companions' teaching.

In Saudi Arabia and some other Middle Eastern countries, they have followed Taiymiah?s strict teaching of Islam that Jamatis and their leader Moududi have always allied with. Saudi assistance and influence have generously benefited Jamatis and their followers to establish financial and academic institutions in Bangladesh. Islamic scholars in the mainstream Muslim world have always rejected Wahabi and Moududi?s fundamentalist thoughts as false and misguided. Islam in its belief and practice has never endorsed any political party system and putting a party in this effect, indeed, can be considered as a misguided innovation.

Jamatis perceive political islam as their mainstream ideology where extremism reins their thoughts and practice. For example, few blind people were asked to depict an elephant by touching. Each blind person explained an elephant based on the body part or limb he touched as an Elephant. Jamatis are like those blinds who firmly believe in and fight only for the fundamentalist form of political Islam that simply lacks the complete and fair expression and practice of Islamic tenets. Islam teaches peace, compassion and leaves no place for violence in its practice.

In Bangladesh, politically active and conscious people who rejected Jamatis have never been adequately equipped to refute Jamati view points in larger context other than their disgraceful collaboration with Pakistanis in mass killing of innocent Bangladeshis. On the other hand, Islamic scholars in Bangladesh who fundamentally exposed the bankruptcy in Jamati and Moududi thoughts have mostly failed to articulate and present their writings to the larger audience of conscious people. In reality, Jamatis have found ways to reappear as Epiphytes in our political system. History has shown us independence loving Bangladeshis' hearts and souls have never been deceived for a long period. People will wake up to put Jamatis in the dustbin of history.
 


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