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Monday, January 14, 2008

[vinnomot] Do you know him?


35: 24. Verily! We have sent you with the truth, a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner. And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them.

41:4. Giving glad tidings [of Paradise to the one who believes in the Oneness of Allâh ( i.e. Islâmic Monotheism) and fears Allâh much (abstains from all kinds of sins and evil deeds) and loves Allâh much (performing all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)], and warning (of punishment in the Hell Fire to the one who disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh), but most of them turn away, so they listen not.


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[mukto-mona] Chief Justice Ruhul Amin - A Jamaati ideolog?

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Why people oppose JmaaTi or Mollaa ideas?
Because they have seen, what JmaaT has done to Pakistan that at least Suicide Bombs of your JehaaDis go off killing Police, Soldiers of civilians every week. Why people like Socialistic or Communistic ideas?
Because they see nothing of that going on in such countries that have followed such ideas and there have been no mass starvation like your take-over in Sudan and Afghanistan had caused. People like, what they benefit from, not what starves them to death and causes their slaughter. You think Bangla are stupid imbeciles like you, sir?

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[vinnomot] PAKISTANI NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND BETRAYAL OF FRIENDS?

Okay so its okay to have Pakistan Nuclear Weapons, when its ISI supports illiterate and very ignorant JehaaDis, Taliban and Al Qaeda hell bent on destruction of the West and USA, when nobody is sure, when a JehaaDi General may take-over and start a War against India and NATO in Afghanistan because JehaaDis do not believe in life on earth and want a fast & quick visa for all Moslims of the world to 'JannaT' or God's Paradise since they openly admit that they work for 'Life After' and believe in it.
 
What should people of rest of the world do if they want to keep living instead of dieing, sir?
Why you want Humanity or Humans Civilization on this planet on this planet to end?
You are full of shit telling us that India would not be able to blow the shit out of your 15 JehaaDi Groups.
 
Nobody's saying that Pakistan's population is same as of Iraq's but do you know, if Pakistan goes berzerk even Russia may take part in blowing-up Pakistan with her 36,000 Atomic Missiles added to 16,000 US Atomic Missiles digging 2 to 3 mile diameter tens of thousands of gorges, where once Pakistani cities, towns and villages used to be?
 
We know, you guys are experts of Blackmailing but please don't think, this world is so stupid that it can be blackmailed all the to oblivian by you. You are actually begging yourself to be blown in to oblivian by trying to fool the world by these antics. A time may come, when nobody would be asking for opinion or trying to negotiate with you and you may face, what you people have been begging for so desperately.
 

Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> wrote:
PAKISTANI NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND BETRAYAL OF FRIENDS?

 

By Dr Shahid Qureshi

 

11th January 2008

 

Many analysts agree that Pakistan don't need enemy if it has a friend like US keeping in view the policy of betrayal, selfishness and leaving in lurch. "People of Pakistan are asking the way its nuclear program is being targeted in the US and West, one wonders if the friends of Pakistan are part of the problem or solution?" I commented on BBC TV on Tuesday 8th January 2008.

 

People of Pakistan are very well aware with the faces and the addresses of the collaborators their interests both in and outside, who are destabilising Pakistan.  The way others and US are following Indian agenda in the region is concerning and may lead to a situation which could go out of control?

 

The so-called leaders of the international community have lost credibility and leadership. They are considered more like pirates than peacemakers. Many believe that the US is self-harming and slowly dying in love of an illegal state with a limited shelf life? If that's what they want then so be it? Many believes current bloody theatre in Iraq and threats to Iran, pressurising and targeting Pakistan are part of the US- Israel strategy including countries like India and others who just jumped the bandwagon.

 

According to analysts what could happen if Pakistan is destabilised or attacked? (a) More than 15 separatist armed militant movements currently going on in India would reach its boiling point and disintegrate India? (b) Certain countries could not afford two destabilised states with the 160 million and over 1 billion population in their neighbourhoods? (c) the whole lot of elite, friends and compromised beneficiaries of certain countries would be eliminated as happened after Iranian Revolution and this region might become out of bound and hell (d) reaction from 2.5 million retired and 600,000 active members of the Pakistani armed forces and public would be unimaginable for the invaders, their supporters and collaborators (e) Pakistan is not Iraq or Lebanon and people should learn from their experiences and come out of denial?

 

The only way forward seems to be is reality check, proper risk assessment without lies and deceptions, improvement of bilateral and multilateral relations to save lives, cut the losses and end this so-called dodgy war on terror?  Though it is appalling and disgraceful the way some politicians and establishment officials behave in front of junior foreign officials? They don't represent the Pakistani nation?

 

According to one analyst in London, "The public in Pakistan and the press are alarmed and enraged at the New York Times story on Expansion of CIA Activities in Pakistan. The newspapers went ballistic about the idea of the American role expanding inside Pakistan but no political party reacted to the news. This is ominous. If the concern of the political parties is with the perks of power rather than with articulating the concerns of the people, responding with popular policies to address those concerns, and administering the country in accordance with law, the people will speak more and more through the barrel of the gun".

 

One media analyst said that certain media groups were also commissioned to run media campaigns of late Benazir Bhutto as part of the US sponsored deal with President Musharaf?  Well looking at the media coverage one can easily detect the use of tools and techniques of psychological warfare, subliminal conditioning of the viewers, repetition of certain names and images'.  Why?

 

"Should UN be moved to a neutral place like Switzerland and restructured"? I asked President Musharaf in London in December 2005. He said, 'moving UN to a neutral place would not make any difference but agreed with the reformation'. In 2008 the United Nations is in even more dire need of restructuring due to its failures to protect small and vulnerable countries. The UN Security Council is not more than an exclusive club of both winners and losers of World War II excluding Japan? UNSC does not represent the whole world even half of it. In last 60 years UN has failed to resolve important long standing issues of occupation Kashmir by Indian, Israeli occupation of Palestine and most recently Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon.

 

UN is not an investigating agency and has no jurisdiction to investigate a criminal matter inside Pakistan even International Court of Justice has no jurisdiction to investigate or accept a criminal case registered in Pakistan. Though with limited resources Pakistani security services are competent to investigate a crime. "There is no harm in sharing experiences and learning from the excellent London Metropolitan Police (The Scotland Yard), I replied to a seemingly hostile London LBC Radio Presenter few days ago. He was of the view that there are many unsolved murders here in London and time should not be wasted somewhere else.

 

As far as Rafique Harirere's murder investigation by UN Commission is concerned one should look at the beneficiaries of this incident first (a) more than 20 thousand Syrian troops withdrew from Lebanon, (b) Lebanon was invaded and brutally bombed by Israel not to mention the atrocities to human beings (c) Lebanon is still destabilise. The UN Hararere Commission wanted to interview Syrian leadership? What for and who for?

 

The recent statement of IAEA chair Mohammad Alberadi about the safety of Pakistan's nuclear weapons is deplorable. The whole world knows how and why Mr Beradi got the Noble Prize and Mr Hans Blixs didn't? The IAEA's role in Iraq is known to the whole world?

 

One analyst said, 'Pakistan is not Iraq or Afghanistan and any attack on Pakistan's nuclear assets would make 160 million Pakistanis one force beyond imagination stronger, tougher, lethal and that will make this whole region out of bound for the attackers and conspirators because all the collaborators and cronies meet their end. We know that US is preparing Israel to attack Iran if that happened the dream of Greater Israel would become a nightmare for the US and its interest. "Don't underestimate the people", said Kuwaiti Deputy Prime Minister in response to my question at IISS about the Hizbulllah – Israel war in 2006.
 

Many think that IAEA should be dismantled and may be replaced with another international body with membership to all declared and undeclared countries? Many strategists agree that United Nations, IAEA are a blackmailing and pressurising tools in the hands of few? 

Published: 11th January 2008, Independent Centre for strategic Studies and analysis – Canada 

 
(Dr Shahid Qureshi is senior award wining investigative journalist and writer on security, foreign policy, and terrorism based in London)

 

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Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: Chief Justice Ruhul Amin - A Jamaati ideolog?

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Mr. Shah A. Hannan,
Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones
get caught.


Gopal Sengupta

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[ALOCHONA] CTG: Failure of 2007

One year of failure. One year of uncompetiveness. One year of no control for any sector except politics and politicians. There is no reason to beleive one undemocratic govt can run better than policial democratic govt. The clerical mentality of the CTG didnt imporove in 12 months. The mission of 1/11 is a eye wash. It is difficult to beleive that the election will be free and fair. We may expect an "election" or "election caricature" by end of this year.
 
But yet to be waited for that drama. It can be a comedy or a tragedy. It will be a comedy if we find more Moinul Hossain born after the election. It will be a tragedy if the CTG try to grab the power for more years. People will resist it and there will be sure demonstration and contribute more deadbody for a pure democracy! 
 
The economical loss of last one year and its future impact is uncountable.
 
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[mukto-mona] Re: Fwd: Chief Justice Ruhul Amin - A Jamaati ideolog?

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--- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "S A Hannan" wrote:
S.A. Hannan: "It will be injustice to ninety percent Muslims if they
are denied to live under Islamic public law and forced to live by
American nor English or French code for all times."


Who has given you the authority to raise voice for Sharia law on
behalf of "ninety percent" (!) BD Muslims? To the contray, I think,
it's the ninety percent Muslims that would abhor to live under sharia
law. If you love Sharia so passionately, why not move to Iran,
Pakistan or Nigeria? Get out of Bangladesh.

J.A.


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[mukto-mona] Re: A Pakistani's re-assessment of 1971 [my Daily Star article]

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Following links might help:

1. http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/history/overview_akram.html

2. http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/history/econexp.html

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[vinnomot] Very nice !!!K M Sobhan(administerd oath taking of tikka khan) president of 'Bangobodhu Porishad' !!! rotone roton chene!!!

dear all,
do u know that  KM Sobhan who administered the oath taking of tikka khan was the 
 president of Bangobondhu parishad uintill his death?
his daughter said that his father would not be happy if so called war criminals are not punished.


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RE: [mukto-mona] Islamized Education in Bangladesh

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dear ms majid,

i appreciate what u say. sadly, across the world monoeverything - religion to language - is raising its ugly head. it doesnt matter whether it is born again christians in the usa or wahabismin the muslim world or bajrang dal among the hindus. we need to push pluralism before monoism harms in a big way.

dvr rao

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[mukto-mona] JU vandalism-myth

 
Telegraph today carried a news (pasted below) rubbishing the accusation by the CPI(M) that on 4/5 April last year, followers of Naxalite students who trounced the SFI at the Jadavpur University had indulged in vandalism at the office of JU Karmachari Samsad, a CPI(M)-run body. Ganashakti, CPI(M)'s servile daily, Aajkaal and Chobbis ghanta TV channel ( reportedly enjoying good rating as a TV channel , a proof how unreliable is the rating methodology) carried the news of vandalism. One B Prasant, Peoples Democracy correspondent, blew up the piece of yellow journalism  ( you won't find it now in the PD archive, obviously to cover up the Goebblesian Act). This man is a former confidential assistant to Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee when he was minister of information and cultural affairs. A reader at Vidyasagar College, his real name is Prasanta Banerjee. The news, saved by a website, is pasted below also.

From Prakash Karat to Benoy Konar, Brinda Karat to Rabin Deb, everyone tried to convince the common people that those who won student elections at the JU are anti-communists and roughs. Now they are all silent, as true followwrs of Goebbles. The probe report also stated that the fire brigade was not informed timely by those that raised the false allegation, obviously to sensationalise the matter.

At the end is also a news in the Indian Express.
SR

Probe trashes clash claim 15 Jan 07 by Our Special Correspondent  (http://telegraphindia.com/1080115/jsp/calcutta/story_8770659.jsp)
JU report clears anti-SFI unions of violence and arson charges
The one-man commission, set up by the chief minister to probe the Jadavpur University violence in April last year, has rubbished the allegations of the CPM-backed Karmachari Samsad against three anti-SFI student associations.
The panel, headed by Ashoke Mohan Chakraborty, the additional chief secretary in charge of higher education, has observed that there is no evidence to prove that any member of the three associations — Faculty of Engineering and Technology Students' Union (Fetsu), We the Independents (WTI) and Forum of Arts Students (FAS) — was involved in the violence and arson on the night of April 5.
The Samsad, a body of non-teaching employees of the university, had alleged that the three anti-SFI groups had ransacked its office, set it on fire and looted items worth Rs 60,000. According to some Samsad members, the groups had also ransacked the Science Club of the university.
The arson followed the students' union elections of the science faculty, which was won by the WTI.
The Chakraborty commission report, a copy of which is with Metro, was placed before the university's executive council last Wednesday.
"As many as 187 witnesses appeared before the commission, but none could name an individual who had taken part in the destruction of the properties," the report said. "The inquiry commission is not in a position to name the persons who destroyed the Samsad office and the Science Club."
More than 70 teachers and around 300 non-teaching employees stay on the campus, which also houses six hostels, accommodating over 700 students. "Nobody had witnessed the Samsad office being set on fire," the report said.
The panel also found no truth in the Samsad's allegation that anti-SFI students had tried to prevent fire tenders from reaching the spot. An officer of Gariahat fire station told the panel that "nobody had stopped the fire tenders at the university gate that day".
The commission has expressed concern over the way Samsad leaders had asked the securitymen on the campus not to intervene. "It was, indeed, strange that the securitymen had been advised by the senior leaders of the Karmachari Samsad not to confront the trouble-makers…"
The panel has urged the authorities to evolve a code of conduct to improve the relationship between the Samsad and the student bodies.
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Naxalites On The Rampage At Jadavpur University (http://naxalwatch.blogspot.com/2007/04/naxalites-on-rampage-at-jadavpur.html)
Photos of Marx, Engels, Lenin & Anil Biswas strewn around in the room after the attack.



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SHOUTING slogans in the dark of the midnight, flaming torches held aloft with glee that 'Jadavpur University shall go the way of Nandigram,' a bunch of armed and patently drunk (and not just with heady mischief) Naxalites, some students of various faculties, other hardly so, set fire to the Science Club and then went ahead to ransack the Karmachari Bhavan, all on April 6-7.

They pulled down photos of Marx, Engels, and Lenin and stomped upon them. They vandalised electronic goods, furniture and slogans were raised that Jadavpur University would soon be a 'free zone where the writ of the state government would be allowed to run.'

Earlier throughout the day, the vandals, who call themselves students, had attacked supporters of SFI, threatened democratic-minded teachers with dire consequences, and by evening the repeated assaults on the SFI workers saw ten of them having to be removed to hospitals with head and body injuries. 'Burn the SFI workers alive,' shouted the hoods. The occasion was the Naxalite-SUCI combination winning an election in the university's arts faculty.

When these hooligans later went out of the campus and tried to attack houses of known SFI workers, they met with united resistance of the people of the locality who bare-handed drove the goons back to the safety of the campus. Once inside, the hooligans indulged in more vandalism. Moreover, they would not allow fire tenders to enter the university to douse what had become by then raging flames threatening to spread.

The hooligans, once having done the misdeed, at once climbed onto jeeps and cars and made off for Nandigram, it was noticed. Later, on reaching Nandigram they were whisked into 'safe houses' run by the Trinamul Congress, setting up yet another example of the right-left cooperation, unprincipled and opportunistic, against the Left Front and the Left Front government.

The SFI has organised a successful one-day students' strike across Bengal on April 9, and have undertaken continuous demonstrations and marches in the Jadavpur University condemning the semi-fascist attack and calling upon the authorities to apprehend the culprits, a large number of whom have already been clearly identified.

Educationists across Bengal including vice-chancellors, principals, teachers' organisations, and eminent teachers have condemned the incident and they are at one in believing that the heinous attempt was made to disrupt the education scene in Bengal as part of a calculated effort.
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Brawl in JU after SFI loses engineering faculty too 6 Apr 07 (http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=230356)
WTI students say the SFI brought in CPI(M) hooligans to bash them up, members of teaching and non-teaching staff too lent a hand
Express News Service
Kolkata, April 5: The Nandigram issue has apparently decimated the Student's Federation of India — the students' wing of the CPI(M) — in the Jadavpur University this year.
Following its loss in the Arts Faculty and Science Faculty elections, the SFI suffered its most humiliating debacle at the engineering faculty elections that was held today. While at the Science Faculty, We The Independent (WTI) bagged all the 4 seats, at the Engineering Faculty, the Democratic Students Forum bagged all the 5 seats.
All three elections were held in the last 10 days. And today's results finally triggered trouble, with the SFI members allegedly unleashing terror on the campus.
Just when 200-odd representatives of We The Independent (WTI) — the students' organisation which won the Science Faculty student's union elections — set out to celebrate their 500-margin victory over the SFI, pandemonium broke: they were allegedly roughed up by their SFI counterparts. The WTI said the SFI had gathered CPI(M) hooligans and hoodlums from outside to beat them up.
Allegations and counter allegations flew thick and fast.
Students from the science faculty heaped accusations on SFI members. "They are absolutely frustrated because we have won all four seats in the 950-student faculty. We won by a margin of 500. Seven of our boys had to be taken to EDF Hospital for treatment of the injuries," said a WTI member.
The most embarrassing claim made by the students was that some teachers also joined the SFI in bashing up the WTI boys. "Even teachers beat up the students in the Science Club room. We were also beaten up in the non-teaching staff office room. We are submitting a deputation to the Vice-Chancellor demanding the suspension of these teachers," said Shesadri Mitra, one of the WTI students who also filed an FIR at the Jadavpur police station. The faculty tried to cool down the tense atmosphere.
Prof Swadesh Ranjan Roychowdhury, HoD, Chemistry, said: "We have instructed the students to write down their complaints and demands and submit it to the vice-chairman. There is no use increasing tension by flaring tempers."
"It is obvious that a certain political party is trying to get back their stronghold after losing in every faculty and hence creating the ruckus... this is a desperate attempt to get back to power," said another professor on condition of anonymity.
Sougata Roy, the general secretary of the JU Non-teaching staff union, which owes allegiance to CPI(M), however, said: "The WTI members were shouting anti-SFI slogans and suddenly got inside the Science Club and started beating up the SFI students. They also got inside our office and vandalised it. Now they are misrepresenting facts to cover up their follies." None of the SFI members were available for comment.


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Re: [vinnomot] Re: ALL ARE RTAZAKARTS except BAL activist the sole age nts of liberation war and exclusive bootlicking servants of Indiaa

Dear mr. Mohiuddin,
It is a nice and appropriate slogan
but about 333 years out of date.
I would however suggest a correction in the seocnd
line of slogans,. Suggest replace ALO with AGUB. How
do you like my suggestion.
Salahuddin Ayubi
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> How do you like the following slogans ?
>
> Joy BAKSHAL
> Bakshaler Alo
> Ghore Ghore Jalo
> Ek Neta Ek Desh
> Bongobondhu Bangladesh
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[ALOCHONA] our colorful teachers

I am rather old. I still remember those fond days, when teachers were treated like demi-gods.

They taught. They punished when needed. They did not play politics with students. There were colorblind – with no blue or white or green political affiliation. Can the colorful teachers of today can put their hands on their hearts and pronounce that their conscience is clear?
Yes, teachers have every right; in fact, they have a solemn responsibility to speak their mind on issues of national interest. They definitely shall have ideological alliance. This ideological alliance, as opposed to political alliance, has a very different fervor that we see every day in the campuses of successful colleges and universities all over.
 
It is not right to blame the government or the students or anybody else for the plight of our colorful (?) teachers. If they mind their business and be the merchants of knowledge and ideas – we, the commoners, again shall put them to their rightful status.

I hope that some august day they shall shed their political colors and be transparent as they ought to be!

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[ALOCHONA] Rice Price: Bangladesh and other country

Dear Alochoks,

I have a proposal to this forum. A large number of Alochona members are living in the different country of the world. Can we share some information that is useful for the common people of Bangladesh?

For example, recently commodity price is very high in Bangladesh. If you dont see it practically, you cant beleive how much the middle and lower income group is suffering for the price hike. We usually heard from the govt and the business forums that price is increased in the international market. We, the common people has no idea whether the claims are true or not.

So, can each of you simply tell the price of some items in the country you are living in? First my priority is Rice. Please mention the price of Rice per kg in the location you are staying now.

Location: Chittagong
Commodity: Rice
Price: Tk40/per kg

We can also share other necessary items like potato, soyabean, milk etc. in the future thread.

You are very much welcome to participate in this useful thread. This is for a general idea if the claim of govt is true or not.


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[mukto-mona] Fwd. Psychology of Men's Honour and Women's Sexuality By Khalid Sohail

 
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Dr. Sohail is a practising Psychotherapist. He has a clinic of his own, 'Creative Psychotherapy Clinic,' in Whitby, Ontario, Canada. He has also written a book describing the 'Zone' therapy titled, "The Art of Living in your Green Zone,"  White Knight Publications, Toronto, Canada, 2002. More information is available at

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Besides his professional work, he has other diverse interests. He is a poet of Urdu and English verse and also delves in philosophical, spiritual and mystical issues.
 
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Subject: FW: Psychology of Men's Honour and ...
Date: 1/14/2008 6:14:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: the_lambent_wit@comcast.net

 

 

Muslim Honor Killing in the West

 

 http://www.chowk.com/articles/13344

 

Psychology of Men's Honour and Women's Sexuality

Khalid Sohail January 8, 2008

 

In my thirty years as a practicing psychotherapist in Canada, I have met many Asian and Middle Eastern immigrant men who told me that they were planning to move back to their homelands when their daughters grew older as they did not want them to be exposed to the liberal lifestyles and secular values of Canada. They were afraid that if their daughters dated boys, their honour would be compromised. When I pursued the issue to understand the psychology of honour, they told me that if their daughters did not behave properly, they felt a sense of shame because of the social pressures from their family, community and culture and to try to avoid that embarrassment they wanted to control their daughters' sexuality. When I shared with them that such "honour" belonged to the dark ages of the past and has no room in the modern world they accused me of being too Westernized. I could not convince them that it was quite natural and healthy for young boys and girls to socialize with each other and date so that they could get to know each other and make wise choices about their life partners. Such men were totally against any education for their daughters about sex and love, as they associated that with promiscuity. Many of them still believed in arranged marriages and considered pre-marital sex a sin.

When I asked these Eastern men why, if they were so traditional and religious, they had chosen to move to the Western world, they said that they wanted their children to receive the best education and be successful. They did not realize that this education was not only limited to college and university degrees and that success was far more than getting a well paying job.

When I interviewed such traditional men in depth, I realized that they had unresolved issues about their sexuality and masculinity. They had a great sense of remorse and shame about their past. They felt guilty that as young men they had wanted to sleep with every woman they met but wanted to have a virgin wife. They had double standards and their unresolved conflicts surfaced when their daughters became teenagers. They believed that every boy their daughters met wanted to have sex with them and that their daughters were weak, vulnerable, naïve and gullible, requiring protection from these young men who were determined to seduce them. When I suggested that they get to know these young men and invite them home for dinner, they were reluctant to do so. Such men had no experience or concept of healthy relationships between boys and girls or men and women. Many of them had grown up in segregated communities and cultures where girls went to separate schools and men worked in separate environments. Other than their mothers, sisters and aunts they had had no significant interaction with other women. Some of their families of origin were so religious that they had not even been permitted to mingle with their female cousins. Thus, they could not believe that men and women could be platonic friends.

It was ironic that many of these men felt guilty about having visited prostitutes and conducted secret liaisons with women. Some of them suffered from a Madonna-whore complex, perceiving women either as pure and angelic or impure and sexual. They could not integrate friendship, sensuality and sexuality in the same relationship. They had no experience of knowing women as fellow human beings, but only as sex objects.

When such Eastern men came to the Western world they experienced a culture shock when they saw men and women holding hands and hugging and kissing publicly. They were offended when they saw sexuality discussed openly in newspapers, magazines and television programs. They tried their best to protect their wives and daughters from these immoral Western influences.

When I interviewed their wives in family therapy, I realized that such moralistic fathers were also controlling husbands. Their double standards were reflected in a number of ways. They worked themselves but did not want their wives to work or drive cars. They did not want them to attend colleges or universities. And when their wives exerted their independence, they tried to control them. They bought their wives cell phones not as gifts but to supervise their every move and screen every call. They forbade their wives to have lunch or dinner with a male colleague, as they did not believe their wives could have male friends. When I challenged their double standards they gave cultural and religious reasons to justify their controlling and abusive behaviour.

It is sad to see how many Eastern women have been enduring such injustice and abuse. When they were living in the East they had limited choices but living in the West they are becoming aware of their rights and are challenging their husbands. They are demanding to be treated with affection and love and when they do not feel respected they are leaving their abusive marriages. It is ironic that many of their friends and relatives, rather than being sympathetic to these women, blame them for not being obedient and submissive wives. It is not uncommon to see that when Eastern women achieve financial and emotional independence, their husbands start losing control and become abusive and violent.

When we analyze such men from a psychological point of view we realize that such men have been socially conditioned by their families, communities and cultures not to respect women. They have been taught that men are better and stronger than women, and that women do not deserve equal rights and privileges.

Many of these men's abusive behaviours also have social and economic dynamics. Many immigrant men from the East had upper middle class jobs as lawyers, engineers or doctors in their motherland. After arriving in the West, they realized that their degrees were no more valuable than the papers they were written on and they had to work as taxi drivers and security officers to pay the bills and look after their families. Such a drastic change in lifestyle bruised their pride and shattered their self-esteem. In their new life in the West, they had little social support, as most of their extended family and friends remained behind.

When I interviewed immigrant women I realized that they were caught between their children and their husbands. They shared with me that their overworked and overtired husbands displaced their frustration on their family members especially women. Some of those men tried to drown their sorrows in alcohol, got drunk and became abusive and violent. They realized they had made a big mistake in coming to the West but felt it was too late to go back as they had spent their life savings emigrating, and furthermore, returning to the East would also be seen as a failure.

Such conflicts in immigrant families start when the children are small but worsen when these children, especially girls, become teenagers. The cultural conflicts are more intense and potentially more violent in first generation immigrants. They reach a crisis as the immigrant teenagers try to live in two worlds in
Canada, a traditional and religious family world and a liberal and secular world in their schools and communities. I have met many immigrant teenagers who were frustrated, angry and depressed, as they could not cope with controlling fathers and strict rules. They wanted to run away from home. It was sad to see the sweet dreams of immigrant families turning into violent nightmares.

For many traditional and religious men, seeing their teenage daughters dating and expressing their healthy sexuality in a free world is a final blow to their pride and ego. They have a flight or fight response. Either they want to pack up their bags and go back home, or they try harder to control their families. Most children do not want to go back to the East, as they have glimpsed a bright future in the West. The more these men try to control, the more they lose control and finally become abusive and violent.

I strongly feel that such men and their families need professional help to cope with these cultural conflicts and emotional and social problems before they reach a crisis and become violent. Such men need counseling to review their traditional attitudes and learn to become loving fathers and husbands. Their daughters and wives also need help to deal with family conflicts. They need to be educated that they do not have to accept and tolerate abuse and violence. They need information about women's shelters and the police so that they can get help before it is too late.

Family violence in immigrant families is a complex and complicated issue and needs a serious review. Alongside educating immigrant families to get professional help we also need to educate Canadian mental health workers and police officers to be aware of the cultural needs of these immigrant families where the extended family, rather than a nuclear family, is still a norm. We need more integrated communities rather than creating cultural ghettos where immigrants and mainstream people never mix.

In the 21st century,
Canada, like many other Western countries, is becoming part of the global village and thousands of immigrants from Asia, Africa, Latin America and Middle East are moving every year to Europe and North America. I think it is the responsibility of the Canadian government that if they encourage these professionals to immigrate, they also need to arrange education and re-training for them so that they become integrated into the work force and do not have to deal with economic and financial hardships. Those hardships create emotional and social problems that are fertile grounds for abuse and violence in the families and communities.

As social consciousness increases, people are realizing that family violence is a universal phenomenon and that violence against women is not restricted to one community, religion or culture. I believe we need to focus on socioeconomic factors alongside the religious and cultural issues and build bridges of caring, compassion and peace while breaking down the walls of injustice, discrimination and violence. To create just and peaceful communities, immigrants and local people have to work together as we are all traveling in the same boat.


Note…Darvesh Films
Canada
has produced Breaking the Cycle, a documentary about Domestic Violence in immigrant families focusing on the psychological, legal and cultural aspects of violence against women.

 

 

 





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[vinnomot] Please do not try to belittle the image of Siraj Doula by comparison with Mujib

Okay, then lets stop naming kids on Sultan Salahuddin Ayubi and take him out of the list we are proud of because he was not a Bangla, he was not even an Arab, he was a heathen low-live Kurd, who are distant cousins of Uzbeks.
 
He had also clashed repeated with European Christian Crusaders over his reign of Business Interests. Tipu Sultan had done the same and we should shame his descendents. All of them are now Bangla-speaking living in Bengal for more than a century and more than half of them live in Bangladesh and had fought against Pakistan in 1971.
 
Hussain ShaheeD Sohorwardi had probably fought for Bangla to become a big leader and so had all the top leaders of Bengal including Sh. Mujib. Right?  

 
--- Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Friends
>
> I beg place the following points for your reading.
>
>
> I do not consider Sirajodoula as a true Bangalee
> premik ?????
>
> First of all neither he nor his kith and kin were
> Bangladeshi. They are urdu/hindi speaking peopleof
> India and established Raj to ugment their fortune
> not for the love of the land or its people.So case
> with the traitors Umi Chad, Jogot Seth and raj
> Bollobh etc.
>
> Both the Siraj and the English benias had clash
> over their reign on business interest. Siraj fought
> to keep his families rule over the properous Bangal
> Delta so the case with the English.
>
> On the otherhand, Hasina while PM informed the
> nation through media that her ancestors came from
> Iraq who came to Bangladesh riding on
> Tiger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ). If his daughter's claim
> was true than we can equate him with Siraj as non
> Bengalee.
>
> But we can definitely honour the ordinary soldiers
> who fought against the English infused with the
> spirit of patriotism.
>
> Faruque Alamgir
>
> "Md. Aminul Islam" <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> Please do not try to belittle the image of
> Siraj Doula by comparison with Mujib
>
> Dear all,
> I have gone some posting of some pro
> Indians where they tried to compare Mujib with
> siraj.very bad.Kar sathe kar tulona!!
> please do not do it.
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[vinnomot] Liar turkan and his lies

Yeah forum members, I stay accused as a liar because I posted a page from UNO site to prove, I was not lying. Ayubi still called me a liar and lied that Bangladesh Department of Statistics or Census Bureau says just the opposite. When contacted, they said, he was lying and Bangladesh do not have more Female population than Male. You can go to Bangladesh Department of Statistics or Census site yourself and find-out, who was lying.
 
Whatever I post is based on what news items or articles, I find on Internet, on TV, in Hadth Books and Qoraan. I have been providing words of Allah from Qoraan providing Verse numbers against his lying, cheating and Mud-slinging. Most of the time, I'm providing links to what news or articles II have been posting but he thinks, I manufacture them too and he hasn't stopped my Character Assassination yet though he has been kicked-out of a couple of forums for continuing to do that. I think, he remains member of ony 5 Bangla forums now.
 
You would find this Rajakaar going after everybody he doesn't agree with and he has gotten not me and some others kicked out forums like Notun Bangladesh by sometimes posting 8 emails a day against us.

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I do not wish to waste my and your valuable
time time on this compulsive liar having the uncanny
knack of manufacturing lies to suit all occations in
his great lieing machine. Please go through his post
and find out for yourself how much of it is truth and
how much is concocted lies.
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