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Yes, I already have heard about Khalek's premature tragic death. I have also heard that Khalek, another brilliant promising person, quit his lucrative position in an MNC, joined politics, and became an MP.
The way you summarized every thing proves that you are brilliant indeed. I am not flattering you.
Anyway, I hope you have followed the exchanges pretty closely. And you know "centrifugal force" was not the only point JitenDa and I have been debating over. There have been other "little things" too that we could not agree on. But I will keep my mouth shut after I have heard from you the story about Einstein how he forgot elementary math. JayantaDa (Dr. Jayanta Rudra, your another classmate) told me about SanjayDa (Dr. Sanjay Sarkar, your another classmate, and probably the most brilliant (admission to Cornell even before he did Master's with all kinds of financial benefits) among you all) how the latter sometimes make erroneous statements about elementary physics.
It is not that I am not aware of inertial and non-inertial reference frames. I believe if neither is mentioned, one would assume an inertial reference frame, and that seems to be most natural when discussion is held in a group that includes people from diverse disciplines. Moreover, in accelerating reference frames Newton's Laws are not valid. But we were talking about Newton's Laws of Motion all the while.
You have said that centrifugal force is not fictitious (imaginary), but pseudo (false). So it is a real false force! It is real because it is actually felt by "one" riding on the electron, but false as it has no source! This sounds pretty philosophical and probably is the topic for theoretical physics. I will expect you to elaborate on this more.
With regards
Subimal
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I have some doubts on this debate and request a clarification from the participating authors, which are as follows: All through the referred debate, the movement of the electron, under the electrostatic force or coulomb force of the nucleus, has been explained in the light of Newtonian Mechanics or Classical Physics just as Rutherford and later Niels Bohr did. But the uncertainty in position and velocity of electrons overruled Bohr's picture of the electron's fixed and well defined circular orbits and classical mechanics was successively abandoned as the basis for describing the behaviour of electron movement in atoms correctly. Later, as the impossibility of simultaneously determining the position and velocity of a moving electron at any moment with good degree of precision rendered meaningless the talk about their trajectory or well defined circular orbits, scientists looked for and finally found the answer in Quantum or Wave Mechanics, that takes into account both the aspects of uncertainty and wave-particle duality of electrons, which the classical approach failed to explain earlier. Departing from the picture of the well defined circular orbits, quantum mechanical model tells us that we can not say simply that the electron exists at a particular point but asserts certain regions in space around the nucleus where the probability of finding the electron is maximum. These regions are expressed by mathematical expressions which are called orbital wave functions or simply orbitals. This wave equation representing the orbitals replaced the idea of circular orbits with a fixed circumference and radius. On top of this in a multi-electron atom with number of orbitals, the picture becomes even more complex and the movements of the electrons in gradually farther orbitals from the nucleus are not circular (or spherical in three dimensions) and acquire different forms of probable three dimensional regions. My question is, if the explanation of electron movement requires such advanced concept like orbitals (and not orbits) and its motion could only be described by probability functions, how the subject has so far been simplified to be compared with whirling of stones tied with thread, planets revolving around the sun and so on. Also since the probability regions of electrons in various orbitals are different how their motion could be generalized into such a simple rotatory motion? It has been dealt with as if electron is a classical physical object whose motion is governed by Again the electrons move with tremendous velocities close to that of light, which also calls for Relativistic approach in the description of their motion. Therefore a Quantum-Relativistic treatment is required to completely explain the motions of all sub-atomic particles including electron. I would like to emphasize one thing that I always consider myself a learner as my conceptions too may be flawed that need rectification (and I don't mind if pointed out). I also like to keep myself reminded about the fact that there might be other lay readers too who may be interested in the subject and like to understand bits of Physics as well. Therefore with honesty I try to express, as well as learn subjects the simplest possible way. 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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/ <*> Your email settings: <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: RE: [ALOCHONA] Sheikh Mujib and Hall of FameFriends The story of the movie on Sk Mujib seems to be taking a theatrical dimension. Could be an interesting movie script of its own. Enjoy the laughs to follow as various interested parties do their tap dance. :) http://www.indiafm. com/news/ 2008/05/03/ 11325/"I'm not playing Mujibur Rahman" - Amitabh Bachchan By Subhash K. Jha, May 3, 2008 - 11:56 IST A report in a section of the press stating that Amitabh Bachchan would be playing the role of Bangladesh's founding father Sheikh Mujibur Rahman has the mega-star completely stumped, puzzled, and amused. "I've no idea what all this is about. Lots of media persons have been calling since yesterday. I can't say where and how this report originated from. But it is not true," said the Big B from London on Saturday morning just before he boarded his flight back to Mumbai. Not only does the report state with absolute authority that the Big B plays Mujbir Rahman, it also quotes the film's producer as saying that the rest of the Bachchan clan, Abhishek and Aishwarya, will also feature in this bio-pic. Continues the Big B, "I've no clue about this. There's nothing to it. At least not as far as I'm concerned. I'm hearing all this talk about this film for the first time." This isn't the first time that producers have made premature or unfounded announcements about the Big B's presence in a project. But it would have been interesting to watch him play a historical character. In all these years of superstardom, the Big B has never played a biographic figure. The closest he came to it was in Ram Gopal Varma's Sarkar where his role had shades of Bal Thackeray. __________________________________________________________________ Monirul Mirza <mqmirza@hotmail.com> wrote:
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