Dear Mr. Mufassil Islam,
Please see the information provided in the following link about the
Constitution of UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom
My point was not to talk about Magna Carta or the constitution of
UK, whether there is one or not, but to say that the set of laws of
the country provides the stability and the law and order of a
nation. Any business is between the provider and the customer. A
contract between the provider and customer controls the business to
run properly, provided both the parties comply with the rules of the
contract. Similarly, public and Government need an acceptable
contract, whatever it is called, and both parties must comply with
the clauses of the contract between the public and the Government.
Most Western Countries follow it. Most African and Arab Countries do
not follow it. Muslims are the eventual product of the Arabs, and so
to comply with any earthly business contract is beyond their notion.
Muslims take seriously the Holy Quran as the only contract to be
followed, which is between Allah and Humans. Why this has to come to
the earthly business between the public and Government to run a
country? I believe, the religion shall be totally away from the
politics. Politics must be run in the light of the constitution of
the country. All constitutions are the living documents, not sealed
like Quran, and can be modified by the law makers of the country, at
the time of needs. Thanks.
Regards,
K. Raisuddin
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mufassil islam <mufassili@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mr. Raisuddin:
>
> Magna Carta did started a democratic system on the roll in 1215
but I also believe that you are aware of the after shocks of that
and I refer to the Bill of Rights thereafter in the then UK. I also
believe that you are aware that the Magna Carta could not save the
King of England after that owing to the mere fact that the King was
Catholic - he had to go to the gallows and give his head. Are you
aware that in England the Bill of Rights is still at work since tha
middle ages and the the fact that in UK there is no such thing as
written constitution? And UK has tried to justify many reasons for
not having a written constitution but I will give you the real
reason - the primary reason is the reliance on Bill of Rights where
the King is himself to a large extent beyond any constitution and a
Anglican Church King - the King James Verson of the King. The truth
is - yes in the west owing to law and the general emphasis on its
implication the law applies to all equally but this can be felt when
it comes of regular daily affairs but I am referring to
administrative and systematic abuse of lacunas of law which I can
very much give several examples as in my last letter where there are
hypocratic applications. You wish for more example? Such as Zimbabwe
became eye sore to TK only after the white farmers were kicked out
of their massive lands - Robert Mugabe was not an issue when he was
toturing his own people. Why? All these Zimbabwean white farmers
hold British Overseas passports - trust me - I do have many of them
as my clients. Yes. Irony of being a lawyer. UK and all the other
major European countries have the Cross on their flags and we are
showing allegience - nonsense. A democratically utterly religigious
countries where you are given George Cross of bravery and Cross
given for Knighthood. Nonsense. And I am pretty sure that in US when
u apply for Permanent Residence - you have to declare negativity
towards Communism. This is democratic? No holiday for over 10%
Muslims in Europe but .5% Christians do get Christmas in Bangladesh.
Sorry our Bangladesh may be still far behind democrarcy owing to our
poverty but all countries have to go through such periods and we
will prosper soon - I am confident and we are generally far more
democratic in souls than the West. We are just victims of our own
ignorance and illiteracy and the corrupt are exploiting us. The next
target is Saudi Arabia and that's the fact and the Saudis dug their
own grave when they cut off from the Ottomans. I will request facts
and not fictions please.
>
> Mufassil M M Islam
> Human Rights Advocate
>
>
> To: alochona@...: Kraisuddin@...: Sat, 31 May 2008 19:35:25 -
0400Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Human Rights and Migrants
>
>
>
>
> By my opinion, Mr. Mufssil Hussains' assertion, "I don't know why
Mr. Turkman talks as always baselessly and without examples. I
challenge that the Western view is not democratic." is really
baseless indeed. It does not appear that the facts will support Mr.
Mufassil's claim. Heaven does not exit anywhere in the world. All we
have to live with statistical facts. It also depends on what the
author means by the word "democratic". Mangacarta used to provide
perfect democracy Britons while the colonies did not have any chance
to taste it. Similarly, when someone lives in any of the the western
countries, if he/she is the citizen of that country then the
constitution of that country allows that person to exercise full
democratic rights. Constitution protects that person, most of the
time, in full. No system is full proof. So, isolated unfavorable
incidents may happen. But the fact is that the people of most of the
western country extremely respect their constitution, which in the
other part of the world meagerly happen. A lot of people of other
parts of the world, have other agenda on top of the constitution of
the country. If Bangladeshi people had real respect for the
constitution, the country would be many many fold prosperous than
what it is today. This is also a reason why Bangladesh, instead of
progressing, going more towards hardship and anarchy, leaving behind
the democracy of the people. Self-criticizing is more necessary to
achieve this goal, rather than boasting and blaming with irreality
and falsehood.
>
>
> To: alochona@...: mufassili@...: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:47:12
+0000Subject: [ALOCHONA] Human Rights and Migrants
>
>
> Dear Mr. Aziz, Mr. Turkman and Other Readers:It is easy to get
carried away into the vortex of conflicting issues if we do not take
on board, patience and constructive critocims of opposing view
holders on board.I agree that the nourishment of freedom of speech
in EU (sorry but I do have further reservations about the US) is
held high but these rights are often manipulated and misguided in
the name of atrocious laws as rightly said by Karl Marx once that
law is the toll of oppression by the ruler. Al must agree that
during and soon after second world war - may fundamental human
rights were currauled even for the UK citizens in UK for the sake of
national security and I believe these sorts of checks should be
allowed when national security is doomed but the question is for how
long and for how much? The recent atrocities and threats of
atrocities in the West has very reasonable justifications of putting
a check on people at random or even basing on their religious and
national entities whilst visiting the West - esxpecially the US. I
was more than once checked by the authorities and I have had no
reason to worry as the authorities did explain that it was a random
checking even though it did appear to me that the system did target
me. It is also true that the criminals do not necessarily have to
wear a beard to pose a threat and even may be of European origin.
But it is not true as well that we are not curtailed of our freedom
of expressions in the West. It is not at all right to presume that
our thoughts can be told at full. Here are some examples:The issue
of Palestinians blowing themselves up - although I do not support
the act at all but it is also true that these acts do emanate from
decades of utter frustration and from series of torture by the
Israeli regime which is being backed blindly by the US government.
Mrs. Blair was subjected to severe criticisms and even calls were
made by the media to boycot her when she had expressed that she did
feel the utter frustration of the Palestinians. There are criminals
and crazy people in Iraq who are against peace but its is also true
that there are people in that country who want to see the Americans
go and if they declare war and pick up arms in defence of the
liberty of their motherland - West will never allow them to be
called 'freedom fighters' as under the 'glorification' clause of the
Terrorims Act 2006 in UK or under the Homeland Security Act of the
US. An example of this is the comments against George Galloway MP
(UK) when he had done so. What about many MPs in UK who had lost
their party nominations after they had mentioned that the UK
parliament was a poodle of the zionist regime? Or what about the
Historian who had questioned the depth of the authenticity of the
German atrocities on the zews? Or what about the several examples of
money lending scandals from the zewish peers in UK and what about
Mr. Lor Levi being posted as a Minister even though he was part of
the money lending scandal in the British Government? I don't know
why Mr. Turkman talks as always baselessly and without examples. I
challenge that the Western view is not democratic. We do go their
for practical means of survitude and benefits of this world but that
does not mean we the people of the East are blindly unethical. What
do you call the US policy or the Amnesty International's report
about US being the worst violators of Human Rights in the world? If
you do not know the statistics - please ask me brother but Mr.
Turkman's utter use of bad and vulgar language proves the point that
either he has a close relative in the family who is White Christian
American and that has pushed him to be utterly biased or he has lost
the plot simply because he is uninformed. We do not have any grudges
about white, yellow or blue or even against people of other faiths
but we must not be carried away blindly. As for Islam I have only a
few excerpts from the Quran and that should suffice for Muslims
travelling to other country:Sura Al Araf:On Entry intio new
city:161. And (remember) when it was said to them: "Dwell in this
town (Jerusalem) and eat therefrom wherever you wish, and say, '(O
All�h) forgive our sins'; and enter the gate prostrate (bowing
with humility). We shall forgive you your wrong-doings. We shall
increase (the reward) for the good-doers."And we must respect their
laws but not at the cost of our souls and you want us out of there?
Surprised - how you became a poodle as you decided not to enter into
the world of intellectual battle. Allah made us poor financially but
spiritually rich so that we can all work for the spread of Islam -
the only peaceful life. Read Sura Al Araf it also teaches us to be
patient as people will surely hurl abuses.I don't know under law of
which country the Government can cease passports for ever as
suggested by Mr. Turkman but is a good advise to lecture the
prospective migrant to advise them about foreign culture as adopted
by Phillipines (Post Departure Seminar) - Mr. Turkman you forgot to
give an example and I am giving it for all.Read my latest article
http://www.thedailystar.net/law/2008/05/05/index.htmSincerely,Mufassi
l M M IslamHuman Rights Advocate
>
>
> To: alochona@...: turkman@...: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:36:37 -
0700Subject: [ALOCHONA] Bahrain Gulf News - Bahrain & Bangladeshis
>
>
> I have no idea, why these people can find a Conspiracy Theory
behind everything that goes wrong with our saintly people
anywhere.Nilkanto Chowdhury <nilkanto@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There are people who are working against Bangladeshi in Middle
East so that they can ruin Bangladeshi job market there and get
benifite from that. Our government and people should speak up about
that. Please be aware of that kind of people and media. Well, people
from all nations are doing nusty things. We don't blame the full
nation for that, do we? Why then Bangladeshi?--- On Mon 05/26, Robin
Khundkar < rkhundkar@... > wrote:
> From: Robin Khundkar [mailto: rkhundkar@...]To: undisclosed-
recipientsDate: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:33:58 -0400 (EDT)Subject:
[ALOCHONA] Bahrain Gulf News - Bahrain & Bangladeshis
>
> This is really bad news. A hysteria seems to be rising againsts
workers from Bangladesh. Though murder cannot be justified under any
circumstances but does anyone know what happened that led to this
tragic crime or the general perception that all Bengalis are prone
to crimes. I have heard that employers mistreat workers and withhold
their hard earned salaries, etc. RobinBahrain government urged to
stop hiring
Bangladeshishttp://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/08/05/26/10216119.ht
ml05/26/2008 11:50 PM | By Habib Toumi, Bureau ChiefManama:
Decisions on hiring of Bangladeshi workers would have to be made by
various official bodies, said a labour official as pressure mounted
on the Bahraini government to halt the hiring of
Bangladeshis.Several Bahrainis, including journalists and a
parliamentary bloc, have called upon the authorities not to allow
Bangladeshis to work in the kingdom following the murder of a 38-
year-old Bahraini at a garage on Friday.Mohammad Hassan Al Dossary,
a father of three daughters, was killed by Bangladeshi worker
Mohammad, also a father of two daughters living with their mother in
their native village, following an argument.The mechanic allegedly
attacked Al Dossary using a grinder before fleeing the scene,
according to his sponsor, to hide in a mosque several kilometres
away before he was arrested.The murder revived calls made last year
to take stringent measures against Bangladeshis following the
killing of a Bahraini woman by her cook.Monitoring"Such a decision
is not just about cancelling work permits by the Labour Ministry,
but involves several other government bodies. There is a close
monitoring of all events that helps understand the general
orientation of the labourers and their adaptation to the character
of the Bahraini society," Jameel Al Humaidan, Labour Ministry
Undersecretary, said yesterday.Al Asala, the second largest
parliamentary bloc, called for a timetable to deport Bangladeshis,
saying that they represented a threat to social peace and
stability."We are shocked by the number and frequency of the murders
and crimes perpetrated by this community, and the government should
act promptly to deport those who are now in Bahrain and to stop
issuing any new permits," Al Asala said."We will soon submit a
motion to the parliament to force the government to end the hiring
of Bangladeshis because of their aggressive and tense character,"
the Islamist bloc said.Several columnists called for the "immediate
and irrevocable" deportation of Bangladeshis, warning that failure
to take action would mean more hostile behaviour.However, the head
of Al Meethaq Society, Ahmad Juma, rejected the calls, saying that
Bangladesh should not be punished for the crimes by some of its
citizens.Bahraini blogger calls for ban on all Bangladeshis after
horrible
murderhttp://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/08/05/25/10215875.html05/2
4/2008 11:09 PM | By Habib Toumi, Bureau ChiefManama: Bahrainis on
Saturday called for a ban on the hiring of Bangladeshi workers,
hours after the gruesome murder of a Bahraini father of three."We
have noticed that most of the crimes in this country are perpetrated
by people coming from Bangladesh, and the wise thing to do is to
stop bringing them to Bahrain," a Bahraini blogger wrote on a
website. "We should have no mercy for the killer and ban other
Bangladeshis from coming here out of fear of what they might do to
us, exactly what Saudi Arabia and Kuwait did at one time."Similar
calls against Bangladeshi labourers were made last year following
the murder of Sana Al Jalahma, a Bahraini woman, by her 29-year-old
Bangladeshi cook. The cook, angered by Al Jalahma's remarks, waited
hours for her return home to kill her. The murderer was sentenced to
death.However, political activist Ahmad Juma said while the calls to
ban Bangladeshis were understandable because of the grisly character
of the murder, a nation cannot be punished for the acts of some
citizens."We sympathise with the family and friends of the victim,
but we cannot simply say that no Bangladeshi should be allowed in
Bahrain because of this. The criminal should be punished, but the
country did nothing wrong," he told Gulf News.Bahraini Mohammad
Hassan Eisa Al Dossary was killed on Friday morning when a
Bangladeshi mechanic attacked him with a grinder. Al Dossary, father
of three daughters, wanted the mechanic to do some welding work on
his car, but the two disagreed over the fee. Witnesses said their
argument was over 500 fils (Dh5).The mechanic fled the garage in
Hamad Town, 20 kilometres south of Manama, but was eventually
arrested after he called his sponsor who alerted the police and
guided them to his hideout.Bahrain is home to about 70,000
Bangladeshis.
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