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[mukto-mona] [Bengali article] Analysis of Spiritual and political religion

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/biplab_pal/Business_of_religion.pdf

My humble attempt to explain the difference between political and spiritual side of a religion.

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[mukto-mona] Article 10 : Does science make belief in Allah/God obsolete? It is debatable; thinks a physician

Article 10 : Does science make belief in Allah/God obsolete?

 

It is debatable; thinks a physician....!

 

As a physician and researcher, I employ science to decipher human biology and treat disease. As an ethical person, I look to my medical ethical tradition as the touchstones of a moral professional and private life. Neither science nor the ethics need contradict the other; in fact, if one appreciates the essence of each, they can enrich each other in a person's life.

So, the question of obsolescence of an Allah/God (
the state of being which occurs when a person, object, or service is no longer wanted even though it may still be in good working order.) is not a miscast, because science and a religious faith could not exist in separate realms. Science uses logic and experimental methods to measure and describe the material world. It yields knowledge about the workings of molecules and machines, mitosis and momentum. Science has no moral valence. It is neutral. DNA technology can craft a cure for a cancer or produce a weapon of bio-terrorism. It is only a person's application of science that takes on a moral dimension where ethics comes on the scene.

In that light, an atheist creates his or her own moral precepts in the absence of an Allah /God. A believer looks to religious texts for guidance in what was right and what was wrong when such texts were composed in ancient and medieval times. Right and wrong, for both, do not come from physics or chemistry or biology. Science does not instruct how to treat one's neighbor, whether black, brown or white in color, however, the science does prove that every human is made of the same flesh and thus creates en essential humanism. Science does instruct us how to clothe the naked and feed the hungry. The essential humanism of society-related science does raise the ethical considerations as to  why it is wrong to murder, steal, bear false witness, and perhaps most difficult of all, subsume envy and covetousness. There may not be any ancient Ten Commandments in thermodynamics or molecular biology, but path to righteousness, charity and love have been deduced from Euclidean geometry and atomic physics. The truths of mathematics, biology, psychiatry, chemistry, and physics are not very different from the truths we seek in human behavior and human choices. The truths of science can be measured and experimentally verified and the truths of a moral life are matters of ethics—whether you are an atheist or a religious person.


The clash comes from the two extremes. Fundamentalist religious believers in the United States want to change the Constitution so that it includes injunctions about sex and prayer from the ancient and medieval times as one finds in the Bible. In the Middle East and in parts of Asia, their counterparts, the fundamentalist Muslims of one or the other sect, press for
sharia, the socially backward and medieval Islamic proto-law, to prevail over a law-abiding liberal society. Atheists have their own fundamentalists who rightly characterize people of faith as naïve, infantile, and neurotic in their rituals, too irrational to live by the light of common sense and reason. The polemics of believers show an ignorance of science and what it offers to improve life ; the polemics of atheists, on the other hand, ignore the wisdom men collected while compiling their religious texts. The dogmatic religious believers  seem threatened by diversity of reasoning and logic and wish to erase any doubt under a blanket of blind belief.

There is another way, a "third way" of articulating the benefits of science and the religious faith. On this middle ground, a person can hold two different sensibilities, two different types of thought, feeling, and action. Yes, there are times when a scientist like myself who may believe in God and equally be filled with doubt about such a God's existence, finds oneself in such a situation. But that should be expected. As the esteemed Protestant theologian Paul Tillich once opined, the basis of true faith is such doubt ; what a contradiction, a juggling with words !


In my own tradition, the rabbi, philosopher, and physician Maimonides, also known as the Rambam, embodied an apparent cognitive dissonance. He was a scholar of the Bible and Talmud while, at the same time, a scholar of scientific medical practice. He was a person of religious faith who rejected magic and sorcery as nonsense. He viewed the natural world as governed by laws familiar to us through physics and chemistry. But he also contended that each of us makes a personal decision about whether or not to believe in a fictional Allah/God. There is no need for mental gymnastics to generate a proof of Allah/God's existence; it is a futile exercise. God is axiomatic or not. Faith is not deduced but felt. Religion, at its best, becomes a vehicle to arrive at the good—the good for oneself, the good for others and for the world ; and at its worst the religion become a vehicle of evil, for oneself, for the others and for the whole world ; look at the religious wars and mas-murders all over the world.

Tolerance is actually a tenet of my ethical medical tradition. There is no need to conquer or erase differences in culture or perspective. The same tolerance should be found among atheists. They should not belittle or ridicule the fools who struggle to find meaning in life, to confront mystery, armed with a belief in a fictional Divine. Science does not threaten a rational faith, and a rational  faith need not reject science. Neither will ever be obsolete.

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In the greater interest of civilization, all articles in this series may be reproduced or published in any language.


 Does science make belief in Allah/God obsolete 
?                                                                                                            Article 1:Necessarily, it does - says a physicist

<http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/humanist_international/ message/114>

Articlw 2: Yes, of course  - speaks a psychologist
 <http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/humanist_international/ message/115>                                                                                                                           Article 3 :  No, and yes - speaks a Christian Priest… !                                                   <http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/humanist_international/ message/116>                                                                                                            Article 4 :   Absolutely - says an eminent scientist                                                   <http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/humanist_international/ message/117>

Article 5 : Of course –responds a humanist philosopher....                                                                                                             <http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/humanist_international/ message/118>

Article 6 : Not Really - says a biologist                                                                               http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ humanist_international/ message/120

Article 7 :  Not but il should, argues an Atheist…..                                                                   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ humanist_international/ message/122

Article 8 : ? Not claims a priest…..                                                                                                       http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ humanist_international/ message/123

Article 9: No, declares a rationalist Philosopher....!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ humanist_international/ message/123

 

 

 

 


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[ALOCHONA] 94 Bangladeshis killed by BSF in 10 months: Odhikar

pls clich on daily news age http://www.newagebd.com/2007/oct/25/front.html#16

 

 

94 Bangladeshis killed by BSF
in 10 months: Odhikar

Staff Correspondent

Seven hundred and one Bangladeshis were killed by Border Security Force of India and miscreants on the border since January 2000, said an Odhikar report on Wednesday.
   Ninety-four of them were killed in last 10 months this year, the report said, adding that 653 Bangladeshis died at the hands of the BSF alone since January 1, 2000.
   According to report, 794 Bangladeshis were also abducted during the period and 89 of them went missing.
   The report was released at a time when the home ministers of SAARC countries were holding a summit in New Delhi and the directors general of the border guards of Bangladesh and India were set to begin a conference in Dhaka today.
   On August 2, home secretary Md Abdul Karim met his Indian counterpart to discuss various issues, including border violence by the BSF.
   But August was the bloodiest month of this year with killing of 12 Bangladeshis by the BSF, the report said. During the period from January to October this year, violence also continued taking place in the bordering districts. Twenty-two people were killed in Satkhira while 13 in Naogaon, 10 in Thakurgaon and 9 in Jessore.
   The report said 89 Bangladeshis were detained by the BSF but not handed over to the Indian law enforcement agency.
   The number of Bangladeshis abducted in these incidents reached its peak in September.
   Push-in of Bangla-speaking Indian nationals into Bangladeshi territory is also continued. According to the report, 181 people were pushed in during the period.


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Re: [mukto-mona] NEPAL-A PATH TOWARDS SECULAR DEMOCRACY

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Ananta Acharya posted:
"CONGRATULATIONS TO PEOPLE OF NEPAL FOR THEIR GLORIOUS JOURNEY FROM A HINDU STATE TOWARDS A SECULAR AND DEMOCRATIC STATE-- ANANTA ACHARYA- HETUBADI-ATHEIST MAGAZIN OF INDIA..."
 
I heard this congratulatory message before from communists and fundamentalists. They are two sides of the same coin. The King of Nepal actually persuaded his people to vote for the system they want. People voted to end the Kingdom. Good for them. But, don't be so sure that Nepalees will be better off due to this transition from Monarchy to Socialism. Nepal was the happiest place on earth, where King introduced Gross Domestic Happiness (GDH) as the standard for measuring the national prosperity, in stead of the gross domestic product (GDP) , used in the capitalist countries.As far as I know, Nepalees were contented with their life-styles. Obviously,  Maoists could not tolerate such life-styles. They wanted social gangsterism, as exists in the West Bengal, India. We will see what this condemned socialism brings to them.  
 
Let's hope that many of the Islamic countries in the world, especially Saudi Arabia, will follow Nepalees to embrace democracy.
 
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[mukto-mona] Boycott Mini-Ministerial - Wind up WTO says Bharatiya Krishak Samaj

BHARATIYA KRISHAK SAMAJ
 
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Boycott Mini-Ministerial. It is time to wind up WTO says Bharatiya Krishak Samaj
 
New Delhi, July 19 : The World Trade Organisation (WTO) is practically hopeless and helpless after successive failures of a series of attempts to revive the multilateral trade negotiations.  As not much progress in multilateral trade negotiations was made on basis of the drafts issued in May this year, the WTO again on July 10 issued two revised drafts – one on agriculture by Crawford Falconer and other on NAMA by Don Stephenson. There is practically not much difference in spirit of the drafts issued in July and those released in May.

 

The revised WTO text on agriculture has completely ignored the food security and livelihood concerns of the farmers in the developing countries. It has proposed a weak defence against the possible influx of cheap and subsidized imports by suggesting a complicated system for implementation of Special Safeguard Mechanism (SSM) by the developing countries. In contrast the Special Safeguard (SSG) implemented by the developed countries is simple and effective.

 

The revised draft, though has the provision for self-designation of Special Products by developing countries, the provision suggested is not enough to protect food security and livelihood concerns.

 

"All crops grown by farmers in our country are linked to livelihood concerns and therefore we should have the right to designate all crops grown by farmers as Special Products. If the WTO is not willing to give us this right along with an effective SSM then it should allow countries to impose Quantitative Restrictions (QR) to check any possible surge  in imports," said the President of Bharatiya Krishak Samaj, Dr Krishan Bir Chaudhary

 

Unfortunately the revised draft has not proposed much in the direction of calling for a drastic cut in heavy subsidies in the developed countries and sharp reduction in their high tariff barriers. It allowed subsidization and cross-subsidisation through all avenues – AMS box, Blue Box, Green Box.

 

While allowing developed countries to protect their agriculture the draft has suggested developing countries to open their doors for imports

 

Without resolving the issue of livelihood protection and food security of the developing countries in general, the revised farm draft has extended some concessions to least developing countries (LDCs), small vulnerable economies and 'other developing countries'—this may possible divide the unity amongst the developing countries, if not tackled effectively.

 

The revised NAMA draft released by Don Stephenson has sought to take away the flexibilities to industries in the developing countries with the introduction of 'anti-concentration' clause. While the July 2004 Framework agreed that the flexibility cannot be used by developing members to exclude entire HS Chapters, the latest draft suggested restrictions beyond this mandate. Such unduly restrictive clause disregards the realities and sensitivities of the industries in the developing countries. Flexibilities are more needed for the protection of small and medium-sized industries.

 

The revised NAMA draft still continues to link tariff reduction coefficients with flexibilities. The flexibilities have to be treated on stand-alone basis and there should be no trade-off between flexibilities and tariff reduction coefficients. The latest NAMA draft has also attempted to create a division in the unity of the developing countries by proposing additional flexibilities to some.

 

The proposal for negotiations in remanufactured goods finds place in the revised draft indicating convergence on this issue, which is far from reality. In the earlier draft, the issue was under the square brackets reflecting lack of consensus on the subject.

 

The controversial coefficient ranges for developed and developing countries for cutting tariffs through a "Swiss formula" still remains in the May text as also the percentages of tariff lines that can have flexibilities from the full tariff cuts, according to a "sliding scale".

The WTO has failed to fulfill the objectives of the Doha Development Round. This is primarily due to the adamant attitude of the developed world to continue their protectionist regime in agriculture through high subsidies and tariff and ask for market access in the Third World.

 

In this context, Bharatiya Krishak Samaj firmly believes that it is high time to wind up the WTO, instead of creating a drama of convening a mini-ministerial on July 21.  It could had been better for the Indian Commerce Minister, Kamal Nath to say that India would boycott the mini-ministerial rather saying that he would walk out if the WTO fails to protect the interests of small and marginal farmers and infant industries. There is no doubt that Kamal Nath has made his statement about walkout due to the compulsions of political situation in the country and the upcoming polls, rather than his desire to protect the country's farmers.

 

Dr KRISHAN BIR CHAUDHARY

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[mukto-mona] Re: Bangladesh should allow transit to India

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First things first! Dhaka i already connected to Calcutta by train.
the Calcutta i train is connected to new deli! thus the rest of south
Asia! ur argument is so flawed and so wrong!

We should pay greater attention to completing our trans-South Asian
high with China, Thailand and Burma.... This trans south Asian
highway has more advantages then anything! Question y do u think that
economists of BD favour the trans south-east asian high way to china,
Thailand and burma.

the thing is that the E.U is very different to India and BD! very day
human right and agreement are broken by India, BSF regularly ventures
into BD and murders BDR troops.

They have broken the treaty of the dams and water sharing!

they funding and arming rebel terror groups which come out with the
stupidest claims!


India does not allow transit and energy trade with Nepal, Bhutan with
Bangladesh!

Bangladesh will lose its Economic strength in Assam and replaced by a
country were the economy is


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[mukto-mona] Religion Vs Nukes - PArt One

RELIGIONS VERSUS NUKES
(Part One)

PROF. BIJON B. SARMA
INTRODUCTION :
All on a sudden a man fell extremely sick. In solitude he can look for his cell phone and ask for help. A men in need of urgent information can collect the same by using his phone. Uttering any further word in praise of a cell phone seems unnecessary, because the users in real needs know of the essentiality, usefulness and positive contributions of this item. The ironic truth is, what a mere cell phone could do in the welfare of the mankind, all the religions in masse failed to do that. While this is one side of the story the other side is even grimmer. It has been established that those who now follow religions do the same because of reasons like, (i) congenital weakness to blind faith or parental teaching, (ii) lesser level of intelligence, (iii) recreation, (iv) exercise, (v) pass time, (vi) financial gain etc. While there is not much bad in these, the naked truth is, followers of a number of religions have caused damage of life and properties worth several hundred times of that caused by the Nuclear bombs.

RELIGION, THE CAUSE OF BLOODBATH :
They say religions act as source of peace. Some religions have even been named after the word 'peace'. But what we find in history about the activities of the followers of religions are : murder, blood bath, raping, torture and exploitation, all of which are vehemently against 'peace'.

They say, religions create "good men". In reality most of the cruel and hatred men, starting from Taimur the lame to Idi Ammen and finally, Osama were/are extremely religious persons. In this world there is no example that "Religions create good and perfect men". Even though some people claim religions to have been the blessings for the mankind, it has been proved that most, if not all, of the religions teach their followers to hate others. By that way religions should be considered as curse for the mankind. There are many communities and countries who live peaceful lives without following any religion. As a matter of fact, not religion, but (i) practicing democratic administration, (ii) honoring equal rights for all, (iii) ensuring human rights of the people, (iv) adopting scientific knowledge and technology, (v) disseminating moral teachings and fellow feeling etc. can create good persons and ensure peace in the society.

Religions are basically against Science and truth. While Science advocates for exploring, endeavoring and doing everything by themselves, religion wants them to believe that god would give them everything if he is gratified by non-material prayer and material contribution. The non-material prayer acts as a shield to hide the 'grabbing' intention of the preachers, while they enjoy the material contribution collected in the name of god. In one sense preaching religion can be considered as preaching untrue things, because the preachers narrate stories of the past (ranging from few hundred years to millions of years) none of which they saw with their own eyes. If lying is an offense then they are committing the same. Few decades ago the religious preachers endeavored to denounce and avoid everything invented or manufactured by science. Now they have abandoned that endeavor, which indicates their clear defeat.

Science is the sole subject of knowledge that is to be credited for the creation of our rich and wonderful culture and civilization. And it would not be possible for men to reach this stage unless they ignored religion and loved science. As of today, the countries who disregarded religion could reach the peak of achievement in point of science and technology. Human civilization started progressing forward only after the scientists disbelieved the sermon "only god has the power to do everything" and started believing that "there exists no god and men are capable of doing things".

USELESSNESS OF RELIGION :
The uselessness of religion can be easily proved from a simple mathematics. One person intends wants to achieve something. What should he do ? Men from various status might advise him differently. For example :
(01) An intelligent would advise, "Please do everything you can do for it". Let us abbreviate this advise by WORK.
(02) A religious man would say, "Do the needful (or WORK), pray to my god and / or contribute something for my religion (abbreviated by PRAYER). (No religious man in this age would dare to say, "only PRAY and you would get the thing".

In such a situation the man has got four options, (01) Work, (02) Pray, (03) Work and Pray and (04) Doing none. Now a man with minimum intelligence may arrive at the following derivations :
ACTION CONSEQUENCE
a. Only Work. May have success.
b. Work + Prayer. May have success
c. Only Prayer. No success.
d. None. No success.

From the above it is crystal clear that "prayer ( and / or contribution) has absolutely no role in achieving the desired item".

HISTORY OF RELIGION :
In order to understand what religions really are, we may go for their historical evolution. Any intelligent man do now know that all religions have been created by men. The purposes for which they created these are : (01) Selfish gain like grabbing wealth or power, (02) To give psychological consolation to the bereaved people, (03) To control the unruly people and (04) Combinations of the above. We mention hereunder the brief evolutionary history of some prominent religions of the world. It is obvious that these accounts (based on historical and archaeological evidences) will be quite different from the versions preached by the religious preachers.

ARYAN RELIGION : The Aryans came to India (period 1800 BC to 1400 BC) from Asia Minor. For subsistence they started preaching a religion in which they took the name "Brahmin" (representative of "Bramha" mentioned in Veda) and played the role of intermediary and commission agent in between the gods (i.e. Indra, Barun, Agni etc.) and the common people (Dravidians). In this religion god was portrayed as "selfish", who would help men after if he is given offering of materials. The ritual, named as Jagga included giving the material offerings (Cereals, Cow meat, Somerasa etc.) to one god named, Agni (i.e. burning), where from another god, Barun (i.e. Wind) was to carry the same to the principal god, Indra (this was the name of the leader who led the contingent of the Aryans to India). This is the shortest version of the story of the Aryans that has been discovered, verified and recorded by the archaeologists, historians and scientists. The professionals, Brahmin and the ritual, "Jagga" were later incorporated in Hindu religion.

GREEK GODS : Greek artists created replicas of their gods (period 1000 BC to 400 BC) as per their imagination and then fabricated stories of their activities. Some of the stories were quite appealing, while some others were entertaining. The story of Prometheus says that Prometheus stole "Fire" from the heaven in order to save the people from distress. For this 'offense' gods used to punish him in a cruel manner. Every morning a crow used to come and eat his brain, which however was replenished during the night. The moral was, men should live peaceful lives in honor of great sacrifice done by Prometheus. There were numerous such stories. The Greeks created excellent replicas of their gods. The stories however could not give birth of any religion because of the logical explanations presented by their extremely intelligent philosophers, Aristotle and Plato (4th and 5th C BC). (Those interested to know further may go through the world renowned book "Republic"). Even though the Greek gods failed to give birth to any religion in Greece, some of their gods were later replicated in the Christian and Hindu religions.

(01) BUDDHISM : Gautama Buddha (period 500 BC) devised the way of giving psychological consolation to the bereaved persons by saying that everything was predestined (Niaty) and that good and bad deeds were to have been paid back in this world through re-birth in either affluent or poor families. His preaching acted as magic pills for the poor who suffered from inferiority complexes and could not discover any reason. The same also helped the wealthy persons to find the 'potential rogues' turn polite. Buddha himself did not say anything specifically regarding god. But after his death his close associates, who wanted to live on contributions from his followers had to portray him as god. The story of the Buddha has been proved by historical (writings of travelers) and archaeological (inscriptions) evidences.

(02) CHRISTIAN-ISM : The episode of Jesus Christ (period 00 BC) is based on stories narrated by some persons. Still today the stories have not been endorsed by any archaeological or historical evidences. When there are writings of travelers regarding Buddha (500 BC) or of Alexander (3rd C BC), nothing of that sort exist of an alleged story of much later age. There is a possibility that the story could have been one of the many stories fabricated by the Greek sculptors. Even in that age their stories could not turn to any religion because of the critical analysis of some world renowned philosophers. The inner spirit of Jesus's story that stresses upon men to behave properly and take shelter of a man (Jesus, who suffered from great pains through crucifixion) has got similarity with that of Prometheus. Jesus's story says that god (Jesus's father) would forgive the offenses of his followers because of his sacrifice. I have witnessed two different types appeals of this story. In the western countries, in general, the Christians feel the pains of Jesus in their hearts and endeavor to live pious lives. In Nigeria (I lived in Nigeria during 1982-88) many Christians feel encouraged to commit crimes because they believe, they would be relieved of those as soon as they would enter the church. Alike Buddha, the preacher of this religion also did not seem to have any selfish intention, even though the churches later accumulated huge wealth and some followers created empire.

(03) HINDUISM : Hindu religion (Place : India, Period : 200 BC to 600 AD) was formed by combining a number of faiths like Aryan (Jagga), Buddha (rebirth, predestined life etc.) , Greece (replica of gods) etc. A brief account of its formation is mentioned hereunder :

(a) Birth of replica worship : In the 2nd C BC a ruler of Chinese origin commissioned the Greek sculptors to create the replica of Gautama Buddha. Earlier to this what were crafted by sculptors were sthupa, gate, balustrade, symbols (elephant, rose, darpal, Jakkhi etc.) etc. related to Buddhist religion. When the Buddhists disagreed to accept this replica, the ruler declared it as the replica of Rudra. In Veda Rudra has been mentioned as dirty and howling god. Since the Aryans did not like the Dravidians they prescribed this god for them. The Dravidians were worshipper of "Phallus" of Shiva, which also was immensely hated by the Aryans. Taking the scope of the ruler's above declaration the Dravidians declared that Rudra was another name of Shiva. They switched on to Shiva worship from phallus worship and got popularity in the eastern part (Orissa, Bengal etc.) of India. In the 1st C BC another ruler of Chinese origin introduced the replica of Bishnu (after the Greek Sun god), that got wide acceptance in South India.

(b) Bringing the three under one umbrella : In order to resist the mass conversion of the Hindus (Dravidians) to Buddhism, the Gupta kings of Bramhan origin (Period : 3rd C AD to 6th C AD) introduced worship of replicas of gods. The Gupta kings invited some Greek sculptors to settle in Mathura and to make replicas. Along with the creation of replicas, they fabricated 'associated stories' also in the light of the stories of the Greek gods. Some of the gods they created were Saraswati (mentioned in Veda as a river), Krishna (mentioned in Mahabharata as charioteer), Lakkhi (from Jakkhi by the Buddhists), Ganesa (by using the face of the elephants, previously ordered by the Buddhist kings). These gods attained popularity in the central region of India. A three-faced figurine was discovered in Mohenjo Daro. In order to combine all the religious sects of India some preachers mentioned this replica to have been of "Bramha-Bishnu-Maheswara". By that way the Aryan Bramhanya sect (who alleged Bramha as the creator) of central India, Bishnu worshippers (who alleged Bishnu as the guardian) of South India and the Shiva worshippers (who alleged Shiva or Maheswara as the god of life after death) of eastern part India came under one umbrella.

(c) Later gods and bigger umbrella : In the 15th C AD, a number of saints under the leadership of Krishna Chandra Agambagish thought of a very strong god in order to save the Hindus from being converted to Muslims. They accepted the idea of a ferocious god (named Kali) of the Saotals. Replicas were created as described by the Saotals and worshipped. After goddess Kali became popular, in order to include her in the religious domain, she was told to have been the wife of Shiva. There is mention of Kartick, the local god of Bengal in "Ramcharitam". Even though this literature mentions Kartick to have been of 2nd C BC, other indicators say, it cannot go beyond 15th C AD. Now the bigger umbrella to include all was created by Surath raja of Barendrabhumi (present Rajshahi) in the 8th C AD in "Durga puja", where all the gods (e.g. Durga or Kali, Lakkhi, Saraswati, Ganesh, Kartick and Shiva in absentia) have been brought in one platform for yearly worship.

(d) Human gods and invisible umbrella : When the minds of the Hindus were ripe to accept almost anything (like, stone, replica, plants, animals, vacuum or air etc.) as gods, some shrewd men or their descendants thought of placing them(selves) in that position. The various groups in this category are : (i) Magic group : Saibaba etc. (they turned gods by dint of magic), (ii) Image group : Lokenath (they turned gods due to fabricated success stories preached by followers. The preachers later came to enjoy the income), (iii) Low caste group : Anukul thakur, Motua etc. (they became gods because the lower caste Hindus wanted to see their own people in that position).

What has been written above are no body's imagination, but facts based on historical and archaeological findings. The Hindus believe that they can get what they need or desire by praying and contributing to gods, where their gods range from stone, beautiful figurine, plants, animals, vacuum (Bramhya religion) and even men. A careful reading of the above account might enlighten any intelligent men to understand how baseless, unscientific and unnecessary 'god worshipping' is. Definitely it is a great wastage of wealth and time, of course with huge income for some people and some recreation for the common people.

(04) ISLAM : The story of Muhammad (Hazrat Muhammad SM, prophet of Islam, Place : Saudi Arabia, Period 6th-7th C AD) are recorded in the history, of course in a different way than what are written in the religious books. In history his life has been recorded alike any other normal men, who initiated life as a poor orphan, then formed group, fought wars at times with win and at times with defeat, surrounded cities asking the people to accept his preaching or face consequences (such letters with the Caliph's palm impression have been preserved in some museums) and finally to become the king (Caliph) of a large kingdom. The three strangest things about this religion are the following ;

(a) In general the religions portray the lives of their preachers with purity and greatness, such that they may act as ideal for the followers to follow. In this religion the preacher has been given some special privileges, which the followers have been asked not to follow.

(b) While most of the religions are ready to withstand criticism, this religion shows little tolerance to its critics.

(c) Even though this religion vehemently likes to accept converts from other religions, they have stringent measures (including killing) for those willing to convert to other religions.

(05) SHIKH RELIGION : Guru Nanak introduced this religion in order to resist the expansion of Islam in the western region of India. He visited the land of origin of Islam and studied its probable cause of popularity / expansion. Naturally he included the militancy, equality of the males, strong vow etc. Also he included carrying of weapon, song, men-women equality etc. With all these he succeeded to resist Islam in his region. Obviously his religion faced extreme resistance in which the last saint was beheaded. Born with militant quality and an intention to retaliate, some followers of this religion later turned to terrorists.

PROF. BIJON B. SARMA, ARCHITECTURE DISCIPLINE, KHULNA UNIVERSITY, KHULNA, BANGLADESH
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bangladesh should allow transit to India

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/49092

Steamer load of coal used to be transported from Lalgola to Assam as I have
witnessed myself having grown up on the bank of the river Padma.
Transporting passengers is not the same as transporting goods.


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[mukto-mona] Re: Transit to India

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/49093

Abid Bahar is definitely a pejudiced soul. he wants to jeopardize a
great oppotunity for bengalis for his personal hate towards india.
Let me tell you Mr. Bahar the "7 Reasons Why Bangladesh Should Allow
Transit to India"

1. Bangladeshis are first and foremost mainstream indian - remember,
once upon a time Bengal was cultural, educational, financial center
of India. If we can revive that role, bangladeshis will be better off.

2. It will allow access to a more resourceful country.

3. It will open-up our society and breakdown the sectarian narrow
grip of politicians on people.

4. It will compromise the jamatis/fundamentalists, who are now
becomming powerful in closed bangladeshi ghettoes.

5. Business opportunities will improve.

6. It will facilitate pooja and eid marketing. What could be better
for us!

7. Overall, general public will be happier and the social health will
improve.

The distress and calamities of present day bangladeshis are due to
their philosophical and cultural imprisonment. They cherish to merge
into the unique, great indian melting pot of modern era. Nobody can
stop it!

tistarbahe


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