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Thursday, August 28, 2008

[mukto-mona] Re: Recent attack and killing of Christians in Urishsha & Muslims in Asam by Hindu fundamentalist of India

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Dear Mr. Khan,

Your warning is timely and to the point,

"We would like to warn the peace loving people of India, Pakistan,
Nepal, Bangladesh that if we don¢t awake there might be occur riots
in the south-Asia killing millions of innocent peoples."

Fundamentalists are creating havocs in south asia. We all should
unite against religious movements/thugs to safeguard the freedom and
to improve our living conditions. Let us say "NO" to religion.

Best wishes in your Peace-Work,

tistarbahe


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[mukto-mona] Democrats' last ditch effort to unify the party to put Obama in White House

Democrats' last ditch effort to unify the party to put Obama in White House

 

A.H. Jaffor Ullah

 

Unless you've been in Mars you may have noticed that the news media, Internet, TV channels are all abuzz with the news of Democratic Convention that is taking place in Denver, Colorado from August 25th through 28th.  The convention delegates are all gathered here to energize the "base," which was fractured by a very divisive primary elections that took place starting from late January 2008 through the first week of June 2008. 

 

The primaries in which Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton fought tooth and nail to get enough delegates to win the nomination had created a chasm between Obama and Clinton supporters.  Among the Democrats and Independents, a coalition of young college going students, educated and professionals, African Americans have overwhelmingly supported Senator Obama while a coalition of women, less educated White men, and Hispanics have thrown their support for Hillary Clinton

 

In the last four decades, we have not seen such a hotly contested primaries in America in which the two candidates fought very hard to win the primaries.  Normally, by Super Tuesday (the first Tuesday in February) when primaries are held in many states it becomes very clear who will be the nominee for Democratic Party.  But not in 2008.  During the prolong and brutal primary season both the Clinton and Obama campaigns hurled enough negativities to plant a seed of distrust in the minds of millions of supporters.  Therefore, a wedge had developed between the two camps. 

 

From June through August 2008, the bigwigs of the party tried to smooth out the differences that exist in the hearts and minds of both Barack and Hillary supporters so that in the Denver convention the party will not only be unified but energized at the same time. For, it is absolutely essential to have a united front to launch a vigorous campaign to elect the party's nominee on November 4, 2008.  If there is a semblance of a divided party coming out of the convention, the Democrats could kiss goodbye to a possible win in November.  Therefore, as the convention got underway, there were intense negotiations to cajole hostile delegates supporting Senator Clinton so that the "base" is unified and un-fractured.

 

On the second day of the convention, Senator Clinton gave an emotional speech in which she implored her supporters to stand behind Barack Obama so that the Party could recapture the White House and a fellow Democrat take charge of the nation in the last week of January 2009.  The Clintons were jubilant on August 26, 2008.  Bill Clinton who became a controversial politician during the primaries when he made some harsh remarks against Senator Obama was shown in the "Clinton Booth" smiling profusely and mingling with the delegates.  Senator Clinton was introduced to the delegates by her daughter, Chelsea Clinton.  And Mrs. Clinton delivered a fiery speech to energize the "base."  She wholeheartedly supported the candidacy of Barack Obama when she gave the clarion call for electing the senator from Illinois.  She called Obama "my candidate" and she added, "He must be our president." It was a passionate call to recapture the White House.  She however profusely talked about herself and her campaign to energize her base but at the end of her speech she beseeched her supporters to join the campaign for a possible victory in the upcoming election.

 

President Bill Clinton also addressed the convention on the third day (August 27, 2008) and he also gave a conciliatory speech.  Like Hillary Clinton, he also gave a call for unified "Base" without whose support Obama will not be able to defeat the Republican challenger, Senator John McCain.

 

It is worth mentioning here that Bill Clinton still has many followers especially among rural Democrats mostly men in Appalachian mountain region in the Midwest and northeast.  To win such states as Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, Obama needs the support of those less educated male voters.  Thus, strengthening the "base" by a fiery and emotional speech from Bill Clinton had forged a united front.

 

We have noticed that McCain campaign had aired quite a few TV Ads directed towards Clinton supporters as the convention went underway.  In the past, no Republican hopefuls had ever televised any political advertisement as democrats staged their convention.  Therefore, it seems as if the election season will be hyper-charged and a nasty one. 

 

Many Democrats now believe in the 'tit-for-tat' policy.  When the Republicans would meet in Minneapolis in the first week of September 2008 to coronate John McCain as the party's flag-bearer, be sure about the negative TV Ads to hit the airwaves, which will be produced by the Obama campaign.  The Democrats are learning very fast that to be a nice guy would mean a possible loss in the presidential contest. 

 

In 1988, George H. W. Bush's campaign made some nasty negative Ads to undermine the Democratic candidate, Gov. Michael Dukakis. The most notable among them was the one in which Black inmates were paraded inside a penitentiary while the announcer said that Governor Dukakis had pardoned a convicted felon by the name Willy Horton, an African American, who committed a serious crime such as rape and murder.  The bottom line of the Ad - Michael Dukakis was soft on crime.  This utterly negative Ad did Dukakis in. Since then the Republicans resorted to negative campaign in each and every presidential race. 

 

And this year is no exception.  Senator McCain's campaign is now onto sticking a label on Obama.  They contend that Obama is a narcissist celebrity of mega proportion.  Thus, when Obama campaign decided to host the acceptance speech at INVESCO Stadium in the presence of about 80,000 screaming fans, which has never been done before, the Republican talking heads in the media including Karl Rove at the Fox news became very excited because now they could surely give a spin to Obama's historic acceptance speech to characterize the event as yet another publicity stunt for the "World Class Celebrity".  The McCain campaign will pronounce that Obama being a narcissist only cares about him rather than the common people of America.

 

As I mentioned earlier, on August 27, the third day of the Democratic Convention in Denver, Colorado, Bill Clinton gave an electrifying speech in which he endorsed Obama's candidacy in no uncertain term.  Needless to say, both Hillary's and his speech had unified the "base" and tens and thousands of the energized foot soldiers of Democratic Party will now return to their hometowns all across America and do the needful to put their candidate in the White House.

 

The most successful convention in Denver was a stunning one as per all the analysts in CNN news.  It was a fault-free and near-perfect convention with full of surprises.  Contrary to the belief held by many Republican analysts, the Democrats have ironed out the differences between the two opposing camps of Clinton and Obama.  The frictions which kept the two camps apart is now all but vanished into the thin air. Both Senator Clinton and President Clinton will hit the campaign trail in the next 90 days.  This positive development in Denver will surely give John McCain and his associates a reason for concern.  It remains to be seen how the Republicans conduct their affair in Minneapolis-St. Paul when they anoint John McCain to be their party's flag-bearer.

 

A post script.  I was privileged to view the last day of the convention.  The venue was INVESCO sports arena.  Obama stood before a crowd of 80,000 to deliver a historic speech, which lasted more than 50 minutes and the attendees were spellbound.  Many of the Hillary supporters were in tears hearing Obama's speech in which he said that he wants to unify the divided nation.  Some political analysts in CNN has said that McCain will have difficulty matching the oration of Obama when the former will give the acceptance speech before few thousands cheering Republicans.  In the history of America no presidential aspirants have addressed before 80,000 people.  At long last, the Democrats are unified.  

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Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah, a researcher and columnist, writes from New Orleans, USA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mukto-mona] Re: Joe Biden - a fiesty senator known for verbosity - will be Obama's running mate

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/49591

It is a shrewd political ploy to include Biden into the ticket to win
the White House in November Election. Biden adds to strength. Obama
has serious problem with male-white and less educated blue color
Democrats those who voted in the primaries for Hillary Clinton.

If Joe Biden is a "Old Washingtonioan Haggard", what do you think
John McCain is?


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Re: [mukto-mona] The Racism Excuse - The Wall Street Journal

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'Race' has worked for Obama up to the Primary. It will not help him get through the next phase, where only things matter are the demonstrated leadership, experience, accomplishments, character, judgment and ideology of the candidate. In all these accounts, Obama fails. He has no example to site for his leadership, except being a Senator (out of 100 Senators). That's not enough to justify to be the President. He has not done much on the Senate floor to mention as his major accomplishments. The most disturbing of all is his judgment and ideology. He has associated himself with all the questionable characters, most of them hate American system. Most of them are leftists. His friendship with Bill Ayre is extremely disturbing. Bill Ayre bombed various cities in America during 1969 - 1972. He has bombed police stations, Pentagon, and other government establishments in an effort to destabilizing the system. He is a radical leftist. Bill Ayre is Obama's
mentor. What that tells about Obama's judgment? What that tells about his ideology? In all account, Obama is a leftist.
 
Obama has nothing to show, except "CHANGE." Yes, we need a change of Government every 4 years. But, the change Obama is talking about is not the change in government only, he wants to change the American System, which is, by the way, the best in the world. Do we need to CHANGE American System for a failed system like Socialism? I don't think so. American people do not know Obama yet. As they begin to know him, they will change their mind for a 'change' they can really believe in, and that is voting for the good old American System that John McCain believe in.
 
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[mukto-mona] West Bengal to Build 250 MW Integrated Solar Facility

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/08/250-megawatt-integrated-solar-
facility-west-bengal.php

It may not be of the scale of the 5,000 megawatt project planned for
Gujarat, recently discussed by the Clinton Foundation, but given the
current size of most solar power plants around the world, this one is
certainly big.

Solar Power & Materials to be Produced
Bhaskar Silicon Ltd has announced that it will be building a 250
megawatt integrated solar power complex in Haldia, West Bengal. The
company claims that it will be the largest such complex in the world.
The first phase of the project will occupy 200 acres of land, already
acquired, and is expected to be completed by October 2009. An
additional 600 acres of land is required to complete the facility.


In addition to the power generated, the plant has a target of
producing 2,500 tonnes of polysilicon annually in the project's first
phase, and 5,000 tonnes by the second year of operation.

Initially Bhaskar will invest Rs 350 crore ($80 million), while total
cost for the project is expected to be Rs 5,500 crore ($1.27
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RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam

Dear Anis saheb,
 
        I will comply with your request to explain the Qura'anic verse.  Explicating the language of the Qur'an is always a pleasure, and in this case there could an additional reward of exposing the nature of falsehood, i.e., the basic premise of your mischievous piece. But I humbly refuse to engage in any "point by point" argument as per your invitation.
 
      Wa la talbisoo alhaqqa bilbaTili wa taktumoo alhaqqa wa antum t'alamoona [2:42]
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).
 
       The verb root 'labasa' or 'cover' gives rise to other words such as 'lebaas' meaning cloth or clothes. So, here, 't-albisoo alhaqqa' meaning 'covering or cloaking the truth' indicates a strong sense of intentionality.  In ...bil baTili ..., 'bi' is a frequently used preposition in Arabic most often translated in English as 'with'. The word 'baTil' can have many nuanced meanings such as 'falsehood', 'illegal' 'unjustified' 'harmful' etc. 
    
       The verse, therefore, is more than a simple interdiction against lying.  It captures the act of deceitful men succinctly and cautions against indulging in telling the worst kind lies  -- that which cleverly and intentionally conceals the truth in order to cause unjustified harm. Your article, along with some of the Jamaati-style propaganda, is the best example of what the Qur'an has explicitly forbidden us to do.
 
      Your knowledge of Islam is indeed very poor otherwise you would not have used the word 'Islam' so indicriminately to describe such a variety of things ranging from dishonest political posturing,  political propaganda, misogynistic politics and even the Arabic language of the Qur'an.
 
        To say that almost all Islam-'ponthi' people were against the independence of Bangladesh is one of the most insulting remarks to the sovreignty of Bangladesh,  to the general populace of this populous country, and it is surely one of the most sinful lies one can possibly utter! It is also an unforgivable insult to the religion of Islam in Bangladesh.
 
         The truth is only a handful of crooks were involved in heinous activities during the 1971 War of Liberation intent on preventing the independence from Pakistan. And these crooks only pretended to be Pakistan's collaborators.  They were much worse than that, and unfortunately they are still with us. Any good Muslim, anywhere in the world, would hesitate to call them co-religionists.
 
         Secularism, by the way, is a constitutional issue. It protects the rights of religions especially in a multicultural, multireligious country like Bangladesh.
 
         Thanks.
 
         Farida Majid
 
        
       

    



To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: dr_anisur_rahman@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:30:54 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam


Dear Ms. Farida Majid,

It seems to me that your e-mail address has been hacked becuase it
looks unusual to me that a secularist like you are quoting from from
Quran. If it is not hacked, then the assumption I made in my article
that influence of Islam is increasing amoung Bangladeshis is true.

I do not know what the verse you mentioned means. My knowledge about
Islam is almost nil. Please give us a translation of it.

I will higly appreciate if you kindly let me know what are the
falsehoods I am trying to spread in my article. It contains 11
points and if you identify the point(s) you have question about, then
I will try to clarify my position.

Regards.

Anis

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...>
wrote:
>
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> How Bangladesh should react to such wicked exercise in
indecent exposure of lies?
> We should remind ourselves of the Qur'anic caution:
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> Wa la talbisoo al-Haqqa bi alBaTili wa taktumu al-Haqqa wa
antum t'alamoona.
>
> --Sura
Baqarah, verse 42
>
> May Allah save us from such spread of falsehoods
that this author is spreading.
>
> -- Farida Majid
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> Dear Alochoks,
>
> Like elsewhere in the world, the influence of religion is
increasing in Bangladesh. You will hardly find any mosque in Dhaka
in Friday which can provide space for all those who come to pray.
The spread of Hijab is also noticeable. Religion based political
parties are expanding their support base. It has posed a risk for
the country because countries like India are trying to create a
fundamentalist image of Bangladesh and using the rising Islam as a
tool for that. What should we do in this situation? I tried to
analyse it in my article published at:
>
> http://www.sonarbangladesh.com/article.php?ID=235
>
> Please share your views on this critical issue.
>
> Regards.
>
> Anis
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[mukto-mona] Atten: Dr Sukhamaya Bains

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I am thankful to Dr Bains for his suggestion on the debate about Siraj-ud-doula, pre-British & British Bengal.
I do not think there is any need to carry on the debate as Dr Das too thinks that Muslim rule was an alien regime . R C Majumdar had great contrubutions in historiography and history-writing but I would never agree with him that Muslim rule was an alien rule.

Dr Bains overestimates my knowledge about history. Perhaps Dr Das read more on history than I.
Revisionism in history adds new dimensions but the readers as well as researchers should be on guard. You must have read or heard about the outrageous conclusions by P N Oak in his book, Tajmahal was a Temple Palace.Interestingly, Oak was not only a staunch supporter of RSS but on the staff of US diplomatic establishment in New Delhi.

I have no intention to carry on debating with Dr Das, at least on the issues, mentioned above. I hereby disengage myself from the debate.
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[mukto-mona] Recent attack and killing of Christians in Urishsha & Muslims in Asam by Hindu fundamentalist of India

Dear friends,

 

I would like to draw your kind attention regarding the recent attack and killing of Christians in Urishsha & Muslims in Asam by Hindu fundamentalist of India.

 

We have seen the brutality of Hindu fundamentalist lead by Norendo Mudi in Ahmedabad, Gujrat few years ago. We the peace loving peoples should raise our voice against these kinds of activities of Hindu fundamentalist of India lead by BJP.

 

We would like to warn the peace loving people of India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh that if we don't awake there might be occur riots in the south-Asia killing millions of innocent peoples.  

 

Thanks & Regards,

Chowdhury Hossain Khan

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[mukto-mona] Munier Chowdhury's plays

Dear Members,

I am a student at Wadham College, Oxford and am completing a thesis on
Bangla literature during the East Pakistan period, looking at the
development of cultural resistance against the Pakistan state and the
evolution of secular, proto-Bangladeshi nationalism. I am writing up
but have noticed that my chapter on Kabar, Nashta Chele and Manush is
lacking any information on the performance aspects of these plays.

Can any of you recall anything about these plays? Where/when/how they
were performed during this period, for example? Any details about
their staging in particular would be of tremendous help.

I would be very very grateful for your help and would of course, quote
and formally acknowledge your help in my thesis.

Best wishes,

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[mukto-mona] STATEMENT OF AHMEDABAD CITIZENS CONDEMNING THE VIOLENCE IN ORISSA

 


 
 

 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    PRESS RELEASE

CONCERN ON VIOLENT ATTACKS

 ON

CHRISTIANS OF ORISSA

 

 

Several Concerned Citizens  and Human Rights organizations of Gujarat held a meeting in Ahmedabad today (27th August 2008) to condemn the violent attacks on the Christian community of Orissa, following the brutal killing of the VHP leader Swami Laxmananda Saraswati. 

 

The meeting strongly condemned the continuous attacks on Christian organizations and institutions by the VHP, Bajrang Dal, etc. and  was of the view that the Government of Orissa has totally failed in protecting the lives and properties of the Christian Community.  Looking to the prevalent situation of Orissa, the Constitutional machinery has absolutely failed in maintaining law and order in the State.

 

In view of this, the meeting unanimously passed the following resolutions :

 

  1. That the State of  Orissa be placed under the control of army and President's Rule be imposed immediately.
  2. That the citizens who have fled into the jungles out of fear, should be brought back to their homes safely and that complete security  be ensured to them.
  3. That all organizations who had declared the Orissa Bandh, and who have been directly involved in the violent attacks on Christians, should be declared as "terrorist" organizations and should be put under the same category of other banned organizations in the country, with  immediate effect.
  4. That all the individuals and groups involved in violent attacks on Christians should be arrested and strictly dealt with in accordance with the law.
  5. That the brutal killing of Swami Laxmananda and his associates should be thoroughly and impartially investigated, and that the killers be punished in accordance with the law.

 


1.      Adv. S. H. Iyer

  1. Rohit Patel
  2. Saroop Dhruv
  3. Gautam Thaker
  4. Hiren Gandhi
  5. Adv. Bhushan
  6. Dwarikanath Rath
  7. Shamshul Pathan
  8. Joseph Dominic
  9. Kiran Desai
  10. Kishore
  11. S. Pandey
  12. Deepika  R.
  13. Simon F. Parmar
  14. Edwin Masihi
  15. Beena Macwan 
  16. D. Ramakrishnan
  17. Fr. Varghese Paul sj
  18. Digant Oza
  19. Paul D'Souza sj
  20. Piyush
  21. Manjula Lavji
  22. John D'Souza
  23. Ashok Singh
  24. Iqbal Baig
  25. Prasad Chacko
  26. Waqar Qazi
  27. Mary Paul
  28. Bhavna Ramrakhiani
  29. Sheba George
  30. Fr. Francis Parmar sj
  31. Ashok Naik 
  32. Fr. Vinayak Jadav sj
  33. Lona Pinto
  34. Fr. Ishanand sj
  35. E. Shailaja Pillai
  36. Sophia Khan
  37. Freeda Coelho
  38. Pravin Bhikadira
  39. Chetana Vyas
  40. Jigna Joshi
  41. Harsh Jadav
  42. Fr. Cedric Prakash sj
  43. Kaushik Raval
  44. Nafisa Barot
  45. Veronica D'Souza
  46. Hanif Lakdawala
  47. R. Vasantha
 
27th August 2008

 

 

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Re: [mukto-mona] Some of the facts that I would like Mr. Ray and Dr. Das to consider

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If it were for my comments that the debate has been pushed to 'ludicrous
extent', I would have asked for apology. I was called irresponsible in the
beginning, as I failed to find out prosperity in the pre-British Bengal.
What makes an expert historian? Believing that Gangarhiddi(Gangahridoy) was
Bengal, and the fear it's might aroused in the heart of Alexander the Great
made him turn around from the coast of Sind? Tagore was right when he wrote
"Ayee Itibrittakatha, bondho koro mukhar bhasan" Even Herodotus, the father
of history is dubbed 'the father of lies'. As far Bengal riches are
concerned, it might have reached its climax after the 'Opium War' of 1840.
The Bhadrolok Class rose afterwards as a result of the English education and
newly acquired riches by opium and indigo traders. Most of the Indian born
I.C.S. officers and Congress members were Bangalee Hindus. This prompted
the British to adopt the 'Divide and Rule' policy.

The basic question is was whether the British rule brought overall benifit
to India. The answer in my opinion is yes. So is the opinion of Bankim
Chaterjee, Vivekananda, and many others. I have no wish and reason to
debate with a person who believes that Mughal, Maratha, and Sikhs were
competing nationalities. Didn't Ranjit Singh build a nation of Sikhs on the
ruins of Ahmad Shah Abdalli's empire?

Now, about the points Dr. Bain raised. (i)The Caste System is the stench of
any rotten stagnant society. It is present all over the world in different
forms. Only a functional democracy can remove it.. (ii) Consider the
Arabian Male Identity, they have the tradition of being known by the name
of either by their son, or by their father, but rearly by their own. Woman,
in any society, is the center of taboo. To make the society bicentric, man
and woman have to be financially independent of each other. (iii) Hindu
female children should have equal inheritance as the males, and the dowry
should be abolished. Some progress has ben achieved in India, but not in
Bangladesh. (iv) An egalitarian society never works. Marxists tried to get
it and seems to have given up. The State Machinnery should have legislation
to trim the wealth of the filthy rich, and use it for development work.
(v) No one should expect democracy and human right under the rule of
religious muslims. It is forbidden in their religious text. The very fact
that mullacracy lives on, is due to the unholly alliance between them and
the leading Capitalist powers.

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