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Monday, September 15, 2008

[ALOCHONA] Re: BNP & Khaleda not only negotiated with the present government but also surrendered to the government.

Surrender!!! to whom ? Hasina or  inu  minu?
BAL leader copltely surrendered  to ....
 khaleda freed in ligal process and BAL netri Hasina  in parrole by an executive order of govt.
 Then who surrendered?

Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
BAL aabhinetri top ei sarkarke tader andoloner phashal bole swagoto janiechilo. Bua engineer anu majhi ki sheta bhule gechen? Ekhon tader andoloner phqasal ki kore BNP r shqathey atat kare> eta ki bishshash joggo?
Ayubi


--- On Mon, 9/15/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal wrote:

> From: Md. Mostafa Kamal
> Subject: Re: BNP & Khaleda not only negotiated with the present government but also surrendered to the government.
> To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, amra-bangladeshi@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "Bhua-Chotta-Stupid-Liar-Cheater Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan" , "Salahuddin Ayubi" , "Musfique Prodhan" , "Md. Aminul Islam" , faruquealamgir@gmail.com
> Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 5:44 PM
> Bhua-Chotta-Stupid-Liar-Cheater Engineer,
>  
> Bangladesher manus ki etoi boka je, tumader BAL CTG'r
> sathe aposh koreche ta bujhtey parey na. Desh ta ki BALer
> Baper jomidari.........ja chabe seta na holey CTG key
> galagali korbey. Tumar Jalil, Sajaprapto Nasim jodi bdeshe
> jai, temni Tareq Rahman O bdesh jaoar odhikar rakhey. BNP
> has crore supporters more than BAL. Tara Hindustaner Napaki
> DALAL BAL key ghrina korey.
>  
> Thank You All,
>  
> Md. Mostafa Kamal.
>  
>
> --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan
> wrote:
>
> From: Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan
> Subject: BNP & Khaleda not only negotiated with the
> present government but also surrendered to the government.
> To: BanglaPolitics@yahoogroups.com,
> banglarnari@yahoogroups.com, bdstudents@yahoogroups.com,
> bristi_namai@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com,
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> FutureOfBangladesh@yahoogroups.com, khabor@yahoogroups.com,
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> sa7rong@yahoogroups.com, uttorshuri@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:07 PM
>
>
>
>  
> BNP not only negotiated with the government but also
> surrendered to the government.
>  
> Meeting of BNP and Jamaat leaders, Delwar, Mojahid and
> Khaleda,
>  
> in the jail
>  
> Proves negotiation of BNP with the government
>  
> And
>  
> By withdrawing Tarique from the party post,
>  
> Khaleda admitted that his son was guilty and
>  
> It proves BNP's surrender to the government,
>  
>  
> "She (Khaleda) should apologise to the people for
> creating five birthdays in her life and making one on the
> day of assassination of Bangabandhu,"
>
>
> --
> "Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo
> thakon"
>
> Shuvechhante,
>
> Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
> NEW ZEALAND.
>
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[mukto-mona] Re: Why transfer of capital from Calcutta to New Delhi in 1911?

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/49846

Grateful to Mr. Taif Ahmad for his short reply. "Kolkata Kendrik
Buddhi jibi" by Late M R Akter Mukul was a book having impact and
influence of the then current of politics and motivations related
thereto. Therefore, should not be relied as very much for its all
points of view. However, the reference is an excellent one. Thanks
to Mr. Ahmed.

But again Mr. M R Akhtar Mukul does not give any intensive reply as
to the continued dissatisfaction of the British colonial rulers of
India against the role of the Hindu Bengalees towards further
strengthening of the British Raj in India.

Looking forward to hearing from the learned readers of the Mkto-Mona
forum.

A.B.M. Shamsud Doulah
Advocate, Supreme Court
G.P.O. Box 351, Dhaka-1000
Bangladesh

Email: shamsuddoulah@yahoo.com
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Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

I do completely agree with Mr. Chowdhury Hossain Khan.

If a human being wishes to be buried then s/he should be buried and if wishes to be cremated then s/he should be do that.



Everyone in the world has to follow some rules and laws.
Crime is crime.
You cannot hide everything telling as only family matter.
If a mother kills a son, it a family matter? Is not is crime?
Is not it crime if a father does not give expenses to his child?
Do you think all are family matter?

Everyone has right to follow his religion and make funeral according his religion. So its also a crime not to bury a muslim child like a muslim.

2008/9/16 Chowdhury Hossain Khan <chowdhuryhkhan@yahoo.com>
Hi Cyrus, you are telling very ilogical way. You are obeying laws, rules & regulations of the society where you are living. Isn't true? The boy has clearly proved his wishes before his died by various activities. No one, even his parent has no right to alter his wishes. Mina Farah is an extrimist Hindu in the name of a Muslim had done crime against her son's will, so she must be punished.

Thank you for your better understadnig.

Chowdhury Hossain Khan 

--- On Mon, 9/15/08, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 5:22 PM

Mr. Aminul Islam....no one cares if you demand exemplary punishment of Mina Farah. We demand exemplary punishment of those who advocate for throwing stones at women, burn down temples, rape and ravage women of other faith, discriminate against anyone who doesn't subscribe their way. How about we start there? Please, don't even try to tell me that this is what Islam preaches. I know enough about Islam to know that IT IS the most secular of all religions, and hatred has no place in it.
 
Mina Farah, an exemplary and accomplished businesswoman and a tremendous writer, decided what she felt was the right thing to do for her family. If she did wrong, she is accountable to God, and not you. You, Sir, should worry about your family and how you will be burried, and not interfere into her decision.
 
Cyrus

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Subject: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Dear all,
  May be you all are shocked at the sad news that a Muslim youth was died in a accident in  USA. His mother so called controversial  writer Mina fara oppose his funeral in Muslim rituals and finally burnt him.He was a pious Muslim. He attended a ifter mahfil on that day.
Dear susil sujon secular groups why dont you protest  the inhuman anti muslim act?
Then your secularism means opposition of islam?
we demand exemplary punishment of Mina.






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[ALOCHONA] Making a new order for Bangladesh

 
By Farhad Mazhar
 

1
   MAKING a new order for Bangladesh implies remaking Bangladesh politically. If we decide to continue with a state which is thoroughly undemocratic, dictatorial and dangerous for our life, liberty and prosperity, we are destined to be ruined. So, simple common sense can guide us to realise that we can neither continue with the present or nor could we go back to the order that was prevailing before January 11, 2007. For the same reason we cannot subscribe to the idea of 'constitutional continuity'; it implies that all we need now is an election with the participation of all political parties for a parliament to pass a bill in order to retroactively provide constitutional legitimacy to the present unconstitutional government, including all their acts and decisions that are far beyond their jurisdiction. To make a new order, we must start contemplating a new but authentic democratic state with a new democratic constitution. Running the wheels backward will take us nowhere. Whether we are able to change the course of politics is not the point now. In the context of the present reality, the idea must arrive first, before we can start thinking about the strategy and tactics to realise the idea.

   An election in order to indemnify the present regime and to re-elect corrupt politicians is not on the people's agenda. Popular sovereignty is the major concern and people want change; instead of partisan rule of anti-people and anti-democratic elite political parties, they want popular and democratic power with corresponding institutions to exercise the right to participate in the decisions of the state at all levels. People are against the present regime because it is against politics in general and destroying the very fabric of the polity. But people are also against the political parties because they are still refusing to act politically and still dreaming to act as economic syndicates to plunder Bangladesh as soon as they come to power through election; they may end up bringing anarchy and violence rather than resolving genuine political difference that exists among people.

   Authentic political transformation is not only necessary to enjoy the sovereignty as a member of the political community and liberty as citizens, but the major precondition to prosper in a highly competitive global economy. To act responsibly with dignity in the regional and global affairs, Bangladesh must be constituted as a new state based on popular will and determination.. An authentic political transformation of Bangladesh is in the interest of the global community as well, if they are indeed concerned about security, anarchy, violence and the failure in governance. But they cannot deny the right to resolve political problem by the people themselves, which they have already done by installing and supporting a regime that has no legitimacy or capacity to resolve the crisis.

   People of Bangladesh are aware that 'sovereignty' of the states in the era of globalisation is undergoing radical transformation. No one in the global community is an island or independent of others. Nevertheless, the concern is whether we should submit ourselves to the logic of the world market and dictates of other stronger states or determine our interests by ourselves. We need a position in the international division of labour that ensures our economic prosperity and security and safeguards our natural, biological, social and knowledge resources. We must address threatening challenges of food shortages, precarious situation of health and nutrition, environmental and ecological destruction and unequal distribution of wealth and resources.

   People are not against election, they are against the farce that might take place to provide legitimacy to the present regime. This is the crucial site of the political contention. If Bangladesh intends to move forward the only meaningful option is to find ways to constitute Bangladesh to effectively deal with popular concerns: protection of life, livelihood and dignity. The present state is already a threat to the life and livelihood of the people.. Global and regional realities are reinforcing this threat.

   How could we go about to constitute popular sovereignty, is a question that must be addressed, but for the sake of brevity, we will dwell mainly on the idea of an authentic republic. The sovereign will of the people may be mobilised in the streets through demonstrations and various forms of resistance against undemocratic and unconstitutional forces by the people; they are constantly fighting against fascists, communal and anti-people elements, anti-democratic classes, forces and tendencies. History teaches us that this is the path people generally take. This is the brewing period, when all other liberal spaces are exhausted and the culmination usually takes form of popular insurgency. Popular will and determinations are formed through public meetings, workshops, and seminar or even in popular discussions known as adda. Popular media plays very important role in this regard. Election may be one of the tools to constitute democratic polity; for example, if people succeed in their endeavour to overthrow the undemocratic order, they convene a constituent assembly elected by the people. The authentic polity usually emerges through radical break from the existing undemocratic order.

   Election is not an abstract game. Election to constitute a new order, i.e. constituting an authentic republic, after the victory of the people is not the same as elections as we see in an actually existing state. Qualitatively and politically they are different types. The present state of Bangladesh was constituted by people who were elected to the Pakistan constituent assembly. The founding document of Bangladesh is known as 'The proclamation of independence', declared in Mujibnagar on April 10, 1971. It says: 'Whereas free elections were held in Bangladesh from 7th December 1970 to 17th January 1971, to elect representatives for the purpose of framing a Constitution ....we the elected representatives of the people of Bangladesh, as honour bound by the mandate given to us by the people of Bangladesh whose will is supreme duly constituted ourselves into a Constituent Assembly.' Politicians who were elected in 1970 under the constitution of Pakistan, as Pakistanis, are self-declaring themselves as the member of the Constituent Assembly of Bangladesh, sitting in India and at a time when liberation war is only beginning. The people of Bangladesh have been deprived to constitute themselves through their own representative in the liberated Bangladesh. This is the 'original sin' of the founding act of Bangladesh. Time has arrived again providing opportunity to correct the course of history.

   Election of the constituent assembly after the victory of the people is to 'constitute' the state; its primary task is to draft a constitution. In the democratic state with a democratic constitution, election is meant to exercise democracy that already exists in the form of the democratic state. Parliamentary or local government election to elect the people's representative to take decisions at various levels and organs of the state is not the founding act of democracy as the election of the constituent assembly. We need to perform our authentic founding act in order to constitute Bangladesh, from which we are deprived till today. We need to have a democratic state first to exercise democracy in elections. If the state is unconstitutional, undemocratic, anti-people and communal by nature, it is irrelevant if election is 'free, fair or inclusive'.

   Election is not democracy. The people of Bangladesh want democracy and that is the prime reason why they do not want to go back to January 11, 2007. We do not need a parliament now to stamp unconstitutional acts as 'constitutional', a farce that we must reject. But this is the only constitutional 'exit' that the present regime will seek and fight to avail by all means. So making a new order is indeed on the political agenda of Bangladesh. People may have different perception of the kind of change they cherish and expect. Such perceptions are generated from various class and gender positions. Given the task ahead we can identify the role they might play in the future theatre of our national politics.

   Making new order demands that we start to contemplate to constitute ourselves politically, start thinking about the state to come. Present order must be demolished and we must start thinking what type of state we need, given our experience since 1971. We need a new republic that can defend our lives and livelihood, ensure us freedom and human rights, protect our environment and ecology, reorganise trade and international relations for collective prosperity and install strong and independent judiciary to stand by the oppressed against exploitation and injustice. Making a new order implies initiating a process that can culminate into the decisive political act of founding Bangladesh on the authentic democratic constitution. We can start by claiming the sovereignty of the popular will making the second birth of Bangladesh imminent, transcending the present disorder.
   
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   INTERNATIONAL power is directly responsible for the present unconstitutional order of Bangladesh, not only because some powerful states constantly intervened into the internal political affairs of the country but also because they are lacking critical assessment of the development policies they have been implementing since independence. It is important to wake up to the fact that Bangladesh is an obvious example of blatant failure of development experiment. International power including their donors must take responsibility for this failure rather than blaming (1) 'two ladies' (Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina), (2) conflictual political culture of Bangladesh (arguing often in racist terms as if it is a genetic defect of the people of Bangladesh) and (3) fear of Islamic takeover (without addressing the most critical question of how to engage Islam in democratic state building). The country is still economically surviving because of the domestic and migrant working people and progressive entrepreneurial ethics of people ready to take lead in economic development. While working masses are courageously struggling with their sweat and blood to keep the economy running, the entrepreneurs have to learn diligently from the intense competition and survival strategies in a 'friendless' world. The political survival draws strength from the creative attitude to life and reality and hope in a better future, but most importantly, in the ability to make best efforts to get the bests from the existing political opportunity, such as casting the votes in the right box if scope is provided.

   Bangladesh inherits the political culture of 1971, the culture of forging political unity when moments arrive and unitedly they can stand against the enemy of the people. If people of Bangladesh consider international power as their 'enemy' and primary hindrance in achieving democracy and economic prosperity, it is because of their failure in making honest efforts to understand Bangladesh. The economic, social, cultural and political aspirations of the people of Bangladesh have been systematically ignored and interventionist development policies and programmes have been implemented destroying the very fabric of society. Exploiting poor with high interests from credit money has been touted as poverty alleviation and women's empowerment. The contradictions and antagonisms such exploitation installs in the rural areas, creating conditions for negative political tendencies, have been awarded with 'peace prize'. In the area of environment, ecology, biodiversity, agriculture, nutrition, health – one can pick up any sector, rampant corruption introduced by development agencies, accomplished both by multilateral and bilateral development partners, essentially to serve economic interest of the developed countries.
 
The health policy that has been drafted precisely aims to totally dismantle primary health care and forego the gains of the Drug Policy of 1982 in order to privatise healthcare services only for the rich and allowing pharmaceutical companies to dictate the price of medicine. Health has been turned into a private industry, totally disregarding the need of the people. The task of ensuring food security has been systematically taken over from the farmers and given to trans-national corporations. The systematic destruction of farmer's seed systems to replace with company's commercial seeds is alarming and accelerating destruction of farming by forced introduction of hybrids and GMOs. Recently the concerns regarding climate change has been elevated to a kind of 'development industry'. Rather than addressing the flaws in development policies and addressing the challenge of climate change in social and economic context, a crisis of global dimension, suddenly all problems of Bangladesh are being reduced into a problem of Mother Nature.
 
Bangladesh is going to be inundated with the rise of the sea level and it is argued that to meet this climatic (natural) disasters, the people of Bangladesh must 'adopt' their lives to the dictation of the international donors, so that lifestyles of the rich countries can go on as usual. Such interventionist policies, explicitly intending to shift the debate from the socio-economic, political and lifestyle ground to natural calamities are posing serious national threats to the people of Bangladesh. These examples are enough to indicate the responsibility of the so-called 'development partners' and their countries should immediately stop ridiculous charges and blame games.

   A converging position is easily available to the people of Bangladesh and the democratic people of the world. If we are ready to respond to the call of the people of Bangladesh that they do not want to be ruled and exploited by their own corrupt politician and political system and similarly they do not want to fall prey to any form of destructive extremist politics that will throw them into an abyss, permanently damaging their hope to be part of the global community, enabling environment must be created for creative and positive dialogue. To make a new order the people of Bangladesh must also realise that while they have serious contradictions and antagonisms with the international powers and the donor community, particularly their development policies and interventions, and therefore they must oppose the constant political intervention into the internal affairs, they also have a major stake in convincing international community and the citizens of the world that it is the global spirit of friendship and understanding that could keep Bangladesh strictly in a positive track record.
 
Any narrow and closed politics of identity based on religion, culture, language, ethnicity or whatever could displace us from realising our aspiration as a political community. This is the reason why I insist on the notion of 'political community' and prefer to avoid the old and ambiguous notion of nation-state to identify our present task. The notion of 'nation-state' assumes that imagining of a people as nation, defined by ethnicity, religion, culture or language, etc, can inevitably justify their culmination into a political state. In the era of globalisation the life and the conditions of life itself is threatened and intense global competition in the market and constant intervention of the weak by the strong states is a permanent threat that can only be addressed by inaugurating Bangladesh with strong democratic and participatory foundation.
 
Bangladesh needs to constitute into a sovereign power in the form of a political state where people are citizens and their rights are protected by the democratic constitution explicitly stating that it is the constitutional responsibility of the state to ensure protection of life and livelihood not only from external threats and enemies, but also from domestic threats that kills us, most importantly, destruction and erosion of environment, ecology, biodiversity and genetic resources. State must protect the conditions of life as the founding principle of the constitution, such as the security of environment, ecology and biodiversity. New Bangladesh must provide food, water, housing, clothes and health – the basic requirement of life without hindering people's own efforts to ensure these for them. The new state must protect dignity and individuality of persons and all the fundamental rights of citizens. We need strong judiciary capable to take decision without any intimidation from executive or the law makers' organ. All citizens should enjoy these rights irrespective of their religious, ethnic, linguistic or other cultural identities.
 
This is the reason I would always like to insist that we must go beyond the stereotype and poor and imprudent intellectual exercise of framing the political problem of Bangladesh as a conflict between the secularists and the Islamists. Our enemies are those classes and forces who are constantly frustrating our efforts to create an enabling political culture where the necessity of reorganising, rethinking and putting forward a precise and pragmatic futuristic option is accelerated and strengthened. These enemies are present in the so-called 'secularist' camps as well as in the 'Islamist' camps.

   There are a large number of old Cold War allies of the United States among the so-called 'Islamists', faithfully serving the warmongering global power breeding violence, war and death, since cold war legacies are not over, but the international community and the development agencies indulged in bitter campaigns against the people of Bangladesh blaming that we are harbouring Islamist terrorists and accusing that Bangladesh is changing from a secular to an Islamic state. The imperial interventionist powers want us to remain divided as secularists and Islamists in order to play with us with our ignorant obsessions and infantile idiocy, while they can reconfigure Bangladesh into a security state under their dictation to conduct their war against terrorism. The event of January 11, 2007 is not accidental but continuity of the implementing process of this strategy and completion of the process started much earlier to take over national agencies responsible for security and intelligence to serve international security needs.

   Rather than letting the toiling masses decide their politics and polity – allowing them to create their own political narratives of democracy and people's power in order to defend their rights as citizens and decide the path to social, economic and cultural transformation – the international power is engaged in a dangerous game of dividing the country between the so-called 'secularists' and 'Islamists'. Their developmental and political intervention, dictated by the paranoia of real or perceived Islamist threat and mobilisation of classes and forces into such stereotype binary opposition will soon throw them into deep and irreversible political and development crisis. It is mainly because the people did not buy this binary antagonism, but rather identified the international power, particularly the development community, as the real threat to realise their democratic aspirations.
 
While it is definitely true that Islam can be abused and used against the spirit of individual freedom and political democracy, it is also true that it has been used as a tool in the Cold War against the progressive and democratic aspiration of the people. Some forms of Islamism, institutionalised and politically strong, are still strong allies of the US not only in the 'war against terrorism', but in opposing popular movements and aspirations of the people. People are capable to identify them. Since the cold war legacy is not over in Bangladesh. Islamists still hate the so-called 'communists' and similarly the so-called 'secularists' or the 'communists' thrive on Islam phobia and hatred against Islam. So, posing secularists against Islamists is a politics that we must avoid, deny and oppose if we are at all serious in making a new order.
 
These are old legacies and old habits of uncritical mind and politics of imperial war. We must engage with both secularists and Islamists to win them in favour of the present task: constituting popular sovereignty in Bangladesh. People's enemies will be decided by who opposes our present tasks. The world has changed and European religions, values and political ideas are not the only resources available to civilisation. Islam and Islamic civilisation, like other religions, are part and parcel of world history. We are rich and graced not only by Islam, Bangladesh must not give up her right to the grand resources of Hindu, Buddha, Jaina and all religious and spiritual traditions. Constituting popular sovereignty means that people do not recognise any other authority to interpret religious, moral, political, social, economic and cultural texts and histories but the popular will. A separate and independent authority beyond the will and the determination of the people is contradictory to popular sovereignty. As long as we refuse to accept authority of any person to misread or interpret sacred texts to pose them against the interest of people we will be able to absorb our spiritual and knowledge practices into our democratic political culture and practices.

   It is time that the people of Bangladesh start thinking how to make the donors and development agencies accountable to them, but in addition and most importantly, to the respective countries' taxpayers. Evidence suggests that local diplomatic missions played crucial role in bringing about the present military-backed extra-constitutional takeover and consequent military-controlled regime. International community now must take the responsibility for the mess they have created. International media and some think-tanks are repeatedly designating this change as 'military rule', despite the civilian facade. Although there is no mechanism available to the people of Bangladesh to make powerful countries accountable for their role, it is important that we must learn to demarcate concerns and tasks in contrasts to their designs and objectives. We will definitely be supported by the people around the world who are committed to democracy and justice.

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Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Hi Cyrus, you are telling very ilogical way. You are obeying laws, rules & regulations of the society where you are living. Isn't true? The boy has clearly proved his wishes before his died by various activities. No one, even his parent has no right to alter his wishes. Mina Farah is an extrimist Hindu in the name of a Muslim had done crime against her son's will, so she must be punished.

Thank you for your better understadnig.

Chowdhury Hossain Khan 

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From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 5:22 PM

Mr. Aminul Islam....no one cares if you demand exemplary punishment of Mina Farah. We demand exemplary punishment of those who advocate for throwing stones at women, burn down temples, rape and ravage women of other faith, discriminate against anyone who doesn't subscribe their way. How about we start there? Please, don't even try to tell me that this is what Islam preaches. I know enough about Islam to know that IT IS the most secular of all religions, and hatred has no place in it.
 
Mina Farah, an exemplary and accomplished businesswoman and a tremendous writer, decided what she felt was the right thing to do for her family. If she did wrong, she is accountable to God, and not you. You, Sir, should worry about your family and how you will be burried, and not interfere into her decision.
 
Cyrus

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Subject: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Dear all,
  May be you all are shocked at the sad news that a Muslim youth was died in a accident in  USA. His mother so called controversial  writer Mina fara oppose his funeral in Muslim rituals and finally burnt him.He was a pious Muslim. He attended a ifter mahfil on that day.
Dear susil sujon secular groups why dont you protest  the inhuman anti muslim act?
Then your secularism means opposition of islam?
we demand exemplary punishment of Mina.



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Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Hi Ratri, who are you, from where you have come? Are you not obeying a lots of laws, rules & regulations of the country you are living? Obviously, yes. Again, are you free to do anything any where, any time ? Obviously, no.

The boy has proved before his death that which path he liked to do, no one has the right even his parents against his will.

Thank you for your better undersating,

Chowdhury H Khan  

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Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 1:47 PM

what does it matter if a parent decides to bury or have her child cremated, who died and made u the god? Keep your faith and your ideology to yourself



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Subject: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Dear all,
  May be you all are shocked at the sad news that a Muslim youth was died in a accident in  USA. His mother so called controversial  writer Mina fara oppose his funeral in Muslim rituals and finally burnt him.He was a pious Muslim. He attended a ifter mahfil on that day.
Dear susil sujon secular groups why dont you protest  the inhuman anti muslim act?
Then your secularism means opposition of islam?
we demand exemplary punishment of Mina.

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Re: [ALOCHONA] Indian Illegal immigrants Infiltrate and Sabotage in Bangladesh

Report says  that more than 500000.00 indians work in Bangladesh When many Bangladeshi educated young people are unemployed.

Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> wrote:

Indian Illegal immigrants Infiltrate and sabotage in Bangladesh

 
By Abu Zafar Mahmood , USA

Illegal Indian immigrants, including trained personals already have infiltrated in Bangladesh job market. Here is not all. These illegal Indian immigrants also keep pressures over the jobs in Dhaka in front of the police and intelligence agencies of the government. The story is not too short as easy to say, rather longer and indicative. They become Bangladeshi passport holders, arrange visa and fly abroad.Burmese criminals also follow the same policies.Bangladesh must keep eye on them and deport these Anti- Bangladeshis immidiately.

RAW officials captured their positions inside the country safely.

Political governments in the past did overlook because the corruptions were their basic principles in the cover of different isms and Indian government was their force in behind for the survival risks. The present Army backed Advisory caretakers also compromise with Indian government and promised to grow a magic of friendship which none dare to think even in the past.

So, analysts are suspecting, hopefully Bangladeshis will find the Indian civil executives to run civil administration in the important positions and Indian militaries to train and command Bangladesh defense forces very soon ! The Chief of Indian Army during his one week visit in Bangladesh from July28th 2008 already placed proposals to train Bangladeshi militaries and share them the experiences of commanding the united nation's peace keeping. Though the reality is that Bangladesh Arm forces can teach any forces of India on International peace keeping for any range of time.

I talked with hundreds of Bangladesh liberation war veterans of 1971.Everybody expressed almost the same feeling. Where the Indian BSF kill ruthlessly innocent Bangladeshis inside Bangladesh close to North and Western Border areas as like as they fire the toys, never keep respect on their own promises to the BDR officials, very natural, no feeling of friendship appear in their mind for a moment.

Not only that, the war veterans added, warm feeling for Indian Militaries which grew at the time of joint force during the liberation war at the early involvement that already washed out when the Indian Army played tricks, cheated Bangladeshis, made deal with Pakistan Army for Indian benefits only, keeping muktee Bahinee out of the site. They compelled acting president of the exile Bangladesh government Sayed Nazrul Islam to sign in a 7 points treaty under threat of death.

Arranged Pakistani defeated Army to surrender to Indian non-Muslim Army only, not to the Joint forces.Dr.Kalipodo Boiddyo wrote in his book, "Pakistan-India war preparation and war,"- "Indian Army took the possession of Bangladesh on 16th December". Where as Prime Minister Indira Gandhi announced in her speech in a public meeting in Lukhnow on March 8th, 1972 that Indian Military defeated the Muslim Military in East Pakistan and changed the Indian war history of hundred years. Which was published in all Indian national newspapers in the next day morning of March 9th. Where as Bangladeshis and the rest of the world did not think similar to Indians at all.

However, the Chief of Bangladesh Army during his visit in India, invited Indian commanders to be the guest in Bangladesh,it`s fine. But not more than that, as they don't believe in trade with Bangladesh, except divide and destroy Bangladeshi defense. Bangladesh has no space to be reluctant about India. In the present perspective, no Army in the world is enemy to Bangladesh except Indian Army who almost everyday Kill Bangladeshis in Borders, their government push the environmental and water disaster on Bangladesh for which effect Bangladesh has become the most sufferer in the world.

The series of bombs blast in Ahmedabad of Guzrat and Bengalore, the IT city of India did nothing but terrorized the innocent peoples with killings and injuries.These political constituencies are of Hindu extremist's political party Bharatiyo Janata Party-BJP.The Indian analysts made comment in newspapers that these are the symptoms of growing Hindu-Muslim communal riots in future. Terrorism becomes the tools for next politics in India.

A day after major Indian cities were placed on high alert following blasts in the IT city of Bangalore, as many as 17 blasts ripped through Ahmedabad, capital of the affluent western Indian state of Gujarat. Some 30 people were killed, some at hospitals where bombs were timed to go off when the injured from other blasts were being brought in. (Later, in Surat, a center for the world's diamond industry, a bomb was defused near a hospital, and two cars packed with explosives were found in the city's outskirts).

Investigators pointed fingers at the usual Islamist suspects: Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), Bangladesh-based Harkat-ul Jihadi Islami (HUJI) and the indigenous Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI). But even as the police searched for clues, the Ahmedabad attacks were owned up by a group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen. (INDIA:THE TERRORIST WITHIN by Madhur Singh/NewDelhi,http://www.time.com/time world/article/0,8599,1826950,00html).

Journalist Nitin Shah did the news in India Daily on July 28th,08 that The BJP leader Sushoma Swaraj boldly criticized the Congress leaded government in the press conference in NewDelhi.She said,"The blasts are a conspiracy to divert attention from the cash-for votes scandal".In the main street gossip is how Sonia Gandhi`s government forced CBI,RAW and other agencies allow SIMI take it on the BJP ruled states.A segment of Indian population believe it is a similar to 911 conspiracy allegation where US Authorities overlooked the signals of terrorism ,the tragic devastation.

LK Advani blamed Sonia Gandhi in open challenge. He said," Sonia Gandhi allowed thousands of Islamic terror cells sleeping in the major cities through lack of tough anti-terror laws and weak intelligence. It looks like our anti-terror legal frame work is not up to the mark and it getting exposed". He added the problem is that Indian intelligence agencies have been used by the Sonia Gandhi's government for political purposes in the last few years making India vulnerable to terrorism.

Lal Krishna Advani is the undeclared spokesman of Indian Army. He is most acceptable leader within the conservative Hinduttawadi, expansionist group of Armies who fight to get back Pakistan and Bangladesh again and believe in re-united India. An Indian journalist Mr. Rathin Sen Gupta expressed with confidence in Jackson Heights, NewYork on July 29th, 08 that Lal Krishna Advani will be the next prime minister of India.

During the composing this article Indian newspapers published that The Japanese Embassy in New Delhi got an email threat of bombing threat in the most crowded market in Delhi.

The Indian strategic columnists already made comment in their articles for the newspapers that The India-America Nuke deal is the joint collaboration of CIA-RAW. If we agree with these analysts in their opinion and argues we have to be ready to see the issue of the Muslim terrorism drama clearly. Today TATA Company announced through their website that they already have withdrawn their investment proposal of 3 thousand crores rupees from Bangladesh.Strong Intelligence agencies also successfully created a situation in middle east thus Bangladesh loss the workers market in there. Different sources turn their fingers to the foreign ministry of Bangladesh and say it is playing a friendly match with them involving in the conspiracy against Bangladeshi interests to keep satisfy the Indian partners and friends.

So, if we take the idea that in the name of fighting against terrorism a severe game plan is in a process to be appeared in the political theatre of South Asia. Are our internal security fencings built up to the mark yet? Where as RAW constructed it's nets in so many layers of the power bases of Bangladesh. That danger will not keep Bangladesh untouched. Bangladesh should deport the illegal Indians very quick. In the meantime hundreds of Bangladeshis already started to be back from the Middle East countries, the numbers will grow very soon because of our recent foreign policies and dependencies on India.

Then what will be the next course for Bangladesh in front of the hardliner enemies, in inside and in international field now and in future?Let`s research for our first line of defense.

[Abu Zafar Mahmood, Journalist and analyst of South Asian Affairs.Email:rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com]

http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidRecord=220738


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[mukto-mona] Corruption of Grameen Shakti of about 30 crores taka

Dear friends,

 

Two cases have filed against Grameen Shakti that is doing business of solar systems in Bangladesh.

 

It is very important point to note that Grameen Shakti is a sister concern of Grameen Bank and Nobel laureate professor Dr. Yunus is the chairman and Mr. Depal Barua, DMD of Grameen Bank is the Managing Director of Grameen Shakti.

 

We don't like to believe the news. If really the news is correct then Anti-Corruption Commission should immediately take necessary action against Grameen Bank & its other sister concerns including exemplary punishment for eliminating the people's mindset regarding the corruption of Grameen Family.

 

 

Thanks,

Chowdhury Hossain Khan

Thinker, HR & Peace Workers

 


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Dear Editor,
 
Hope you are doing well and thanks for publishing my previous write-ups
 
This is an article titled "It's time to look forward". I will be highly honoured if you publish this article. I apprecite your time to read this article.
 
Thanks
 
Have a nice time
 
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It's time to look forward
 
Ripan Kumar Biswas
Ripan.Biswas@yahoo.com
 
The two presidential nominees Sen. John McCain(R-AZ) and Barack Obama (D-IL) walked shoulder-to-shoulder down a long ramp toward the site and made the ground zero their common ground, free of politics and infused with memory as the 9/11 attacks remain a deeply emotional issue in the United States, even if polls show that pocketbook concerns, particularly the parlous state of the housing market, now top terrorism fears.
 
To get together to bring peace for all is a good noble endeavor. Today in most countries, political ideologies of political parties largely concern themselves with how to allocate power and to what end they should be used. Very few political parties follow country first, politics second. It means to support something that is not politically expedient. It means if someone in the party asks a favor; if it isn't noble- don't need to do it. It means doing something for the good of the country, not for just the good of the candidate. It means to be a servant to the country and not necessarily be a man/woman of the people, but a man/woman for the people.
 
Negative political rhetoric will only serve to drive the country further apart at a time when everyone needs to be working together. Too many in Dhaka are putting politics first and country second. Too few are setting aside their own interests to work together on solutions for Bangladesh. Awami League president Sheikh Hasina, who is now out of prison by the executive order, came along with her same political attack rather being positive about the policies that can make the country better. Instead of finding the common ground among diverse views to execute the policies, she criticized the present interim government and last BNP-Jamaat regime in her address at a view-exchange meeting with the AL's US chapter leaders in New York City on September 14, 2008.
 
According to her speech, the interim government once carried out anti-corruption drives and now busy making the corrupt clean. The government even made the things worst rather taking necessary actions against the backdrop of widespread corruption, lootings, and killings by the BNP-Jamaat regime, she added. People of Bangladesh are aware of their politicians who put their priority on attacking personality rather than examining and debating other politicians' policy proposal. They will appreciate and fight for the plan Sheikh Hasina promised on behalf of her party if they were voted to power in the next elections which includes raising literacy to 80-90 percent, providing free education for all up to honors level, ensuring food surplus in the country by 2012, and providing health and housing for all by 2013 and produce 10,000MW electricity by 2014.
 
In the face of the diverse beliefs and opinions represented in politics, politicians should give priority how to build support for an idea, convince other people of its merits, accommodate others' points of view without undermining their core goals, and, ultimately, find the points of agreement that will allow them to forge consensus amid the clamor of the democratic process. Politicians, who put country first, always search for the common ground among diverse views, negotiate with those who agree and disagree with them, and make adjustments to their proposals without betraying their core beliefs or threatening what they seek to accomplish.
 
To stop bickering and vendetta against each other, Sheikh Hasina and BNP (Bangladesh National Party) chief Khaleda Zia, who is now on bail, should sit together in the interest of the country and democracy. Commerce and Education Adviser Hossain Zillur Rahman of the military backed caretaker government again placed their hopes to bring them together for a discussion on September 14, 2008. "Major political parties are expected to show tolerance shunning the practice of mudslinging in the interest of democracy and the nation," the adviser expected while he and his colleague AF Hassan Ariff, adviser of Ministry of Law, Justice & Parliament Affairs, phoned Barrister Rafique-ul Huq, who defends both former prime ministers in court, to take an initiative to bring both the party chiefs to a discussion table.
 
Most of the political leaders and activists in Dhaka expressed their positive reaction to the government's attempt to bring the two top leaders of the country in a dialogue with each other urging that they should sit together as people always expect them to do so while AL acting chief Zillur Rahman questioned the caretaker government's motive behind the attempt and ruled out any necessity to sit together.
 
Now, more than ever, Bangladesh needs a servant for the country who does not mind stepping on toes to get the job done. Now is the time when future generations will look back and say, this is when Bangladesh started working again. Now is the time when each and every political parties need to get back to the basic democratic ideals and values. Politicians don't need to find common ground among themselves on every single issue but to find those areas on which common ground can be found, and then see if they can become the catalyst for bringing that common ground to the effect. They should put more emphasis on the potential for cooperation rather stifling the competition.
 
People in general, believe that political parties should exist for the convenience of like-minded people working together to promote candidates. In legislatures, their function should be to help like-minded members work together for goals they have in common. In addition, working together will help good government agenda.
 
In line of peoples' interests about democracy and political parties' attitude, the notion of intra-part democracy has increasingly caught up the attention of democratic activists and practitioners. Internal party democracy is often advocated as a desirable and/or necessary set of organizational practices that parties should adopt in order to meet the expectations of their members and supporters as well as the broader public for greater inclusiveness, transparency, and accountability.
 
There is always a question, especially in the democratic culture of Bangladesh, should politicians have a retirement age so that more youth can be accommodated and empowered to take up leadership roles? Inter-dependency and joint efforts will mutually benefit them as well as the party only while youth will bring in high energy and fresh blood to politics and senior leaders will bring in vast experience in the executive, legislature and other areas to strengthen the party and create a talent pool for the next generation. There was a good sign of intra-part democracy while Begum Khaleda Zia declined the offer to be chairperson of the BNP for life to show her respect for democratic norms. Like her, other political parties and leaders should have to aware of the democratic norms.
 
Beautiful words cannot make the lives better, but a man/woman who always puts country and people before him/her, before politics and who has leadership qualities in order to construe or scrutinize the minds of the people, can.  Although Bangladesh is now in critical political juncture, but people still have faith and hope and want to say like John Fitzgerald Kennedy, "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." (Inaugural Address on January 20, 1961 as 35th President of the United States)
 
September 16, 2008, New York
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Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

 Dear Mr Rahim,
Please consider the matter on humantarian ground.No one should have the  right to impose his or her religious belife on others.And we also know the cotroversial role of Mina Frah. No one should hurt any religion or beliver of a religion with out any provocation what that lady is doing.

"Raheem M." <raheemm1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Aminul Islam,

I am aware of this tragic incidence in New York. It is further saddening that as a parent, she might have made a decision that seems contrary to her sons' wishes. But this is a family matter and as a mother/father, they have a greater right to decide these things. It is unfortunate but it is the way it is. I am sure this must have been a complicated and difficult decision for Mina Fara and her husband. We may not even know the entire story.

Protesting will not bring the departed back and nor can it reverse the funeral arrangements.
Rather, let us give the parents an opportunity to grieve and not politicize this tragic matter.

- Raheem
New York

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From: Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups
To: Amra-Bangladesi@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com, sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, WideMinds@yahoogroups.com, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, banglarnari@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, notunbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, faruquealamgir@yahoo.com, ayubi_s786@yahoo.com, javediqbalkaleem@yahoo.com, dreamer_hillol@yahoo.com, chena_kew@yahoo.com, bdmailer@gmail.com, diagnose@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 5:23 AM

Dear all,
  May be you all are shocked at the sad news that a Muslim youth was died in a accident in  USA. His mother so called controversial  writer Mina fara oppose his funeral in Muslim rituals and finally burnt him.He was a pious Muslim. He attended a ifter mahfil on that day.
Dear susil sujon secular groups why dont you protest  the inhuman anti muslim act?
Then your secularism means opposition of islam?
we demand exemplary punishment of Mina.

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Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Mina Farah is a convert (hindu to muslim) to marry a muslim (a marriage that would bring prosperity to her). I am not sure whether she has re-converted to be a Hindu (You cannot be Hindu unless you are by born).
 
Tremendous Writer? Booker Prize Winner. So far I am concerned that she wrote a book
"Hitler to Zia" which is full of hatred. It is piece of garbage. If this kind of writing is the measuring scale for being a good writer, I think those promote her a tremendous writer should check their mental well-being.
 
SH
Toronto

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Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 10:22 AM

Mr. Aminul Islam....no one cares if you demand exemplary punishment of Mina Farah. We demand exemplary punishment of those who advocate for throwing stones at women, burn down temples, rape and ravage women of other faith, discriminate against anyone who doesn't subscribe their way. How about we start there? Please, don't even try to tell me that this is what Islam preaches. I know enough about Islam to know that IT IS the most secular of all religions, and hatred has no place in it.
 
Mina Farah, an exemplary and accomplished businesswoman and a tremendous writer, decided what she felt was the right thing to do for her family. If she did wrong, she is accountable to God, and not you. You, Sir, should worry about your family and how you will be burried, and not interfere into her decision.
 
Cyrus

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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:23:17 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Mina Farah burnt his muslim rojader son insted of burried , a humble question to "sushil'n HR groups

Dear all,
  May be you all are shocked at the sad news that a Muslim youth was died in a accident in  USA. His mother so called controversial  writer Mina fara oppose his funeral in Muslim rituals and finally burnt him.He was a pious Muslim. He attended a ifter mahfil on that day.
Dear susil sujon secular groups why dont you protest  the inhuman anti muslim act?
Then your secularism means opposition of islam?
we demand exemplary punishment of Mina.


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