ATTN. Farida Majid
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You and few other " elite intellectuals " often write about jamaat....their wrong philosophy, aggressive manners, cruel activities, etc.
have you ever asked yourself, how much damage Jamaat has done...to Bangladesh; and how much damage AL + BNP + ershad + beauracrats
+ politicians have caused since Jan, 1972??
The answer will be simple, clear and shattering.
People like you , who are always yelling about Jamaat's destructive activities, are either naive / paid agents/ or simple stupid.
It is time for you to wake up and write more constructive items on Bdeshi issues.
Blaming Jamaat for all the Bdeshi mess will not be useful. sending few more corrupt officials + politicians to prison may be more therapeutic and helpful.
I am a proud muslim, not a fanatic, not a Jamaat supporter. But i dont enjoy creating " smoke screen" on behalf of crooked + corrupt
AL + BNP politicians.
It is time to reassess your style and contribute more to the Bdeshi community.... I do.
khoda hafez.
dr. maqsud omar
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: farida_majid@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:09 -0400
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
Blame it all on RAW/MOSAD. Do we have instances of Indian BJP/Sangh Parivar engaged in mass killing of Hindus? Do the Zionists habitually engage in murdering the Jew?
How about our Jamaati Islami berathari toward fellow Muslims of Bangla land? Please read the followin note frm Ahsan Abbas of Pakistan:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:16 AM, ahsan abbas < > wrote:
From: m_musa92870@yahoo.comI can show you many many pics of Hindus burning the holy Quran. Can any one PLEASE show me a single picture of Hindus burning their own book ?
I can show you thousands of pics of Israrils oppression against Muslims. Can any body PLEASE send me a single picture of Jews killing the Jews ?
I can give you hundreds of examples of Americans, oppresing the Muslims. Can any body PLEASE show me a single example of Americans killing the Americans in name of Christianity ?
If you cannot, please come to me I will show something:
Muslims are beheading Muslims in the name of Islam.
Muslims are attacking the Mosques for the sake of Allah.
Muslims are burning the schools to spread Islam.
Muslims are doing suicidal attacks on hospitals to serve the humanity.
Muslims are kidnapping school children to enforce the shariah.
Oh No what you are saying ??? They cant be regarded as Muslims.They are beasts.
DO NOT SAY THIS OTHERWISE YOU TOO WILL BE REGARDED AS INFIDEL(KAFIR). These people
are "Mujahideen-e-Islam" and doing all this "to defeat the America"
Subhan Allah..... You see what a great logic it is.
It is due to this marvelous logic, the Muslims are being beaten all over the world.
These brave, sincere and true Mujahideen did a self proclaimed 9/11, successfully managed an attack on Afghanistan and Iraq and now striving to do the same with Atomic Pakistan.
Could we still not decide who is the worse? Zionists, racist Hindus or our Mjahideen ?
Love
Ahsan
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:53:36 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general election in Bangladesh
If a morally bankrupt person calls me intellectually bankrupt, I take it as complement. Thank you. Why don't you provide us some facts (including dates) and reasoning what MOSAD did in Bangladesh since you have case against them? As far as deviating from the subject, I can accuse you of the same. You could not provide any justifications for the lies and broken promises of those pseudo-Islamic parties to EC during their previous visits. Sorry I cannot call somebody Islamic for hypocrisy. If they are like all the other non-religious political parties, why do they use Islam in pursuing their worldly goals? Why do they deceive us with their outward religious appearances? I wanted to say lying is very little sin compared to what these religious frauds are capable of doing without any hesitation. Sorry that of type of accusation hurts you personally. I was not aware of that.
>
> Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
>
> I requested you to provide your analysis with facts and reasoning,
> however, you preferred to express your one-eyed views only. Many
> quarters might be involved in influencing Bangladesh politics. We
> should discuss their roles and interests objectively instead of being
> supportive to any specific one. Why are you trying to portray some
> people as supporters of some agencies? I am a Bangladeshi (and you
> are too, I suppose) and we should uphold the interest of the nation,
> not of other countries. You mentioned about CIA, what about others
> (e.g. RAW, MOSAD)? What do you think about them?
>
> Constantly deviating from the point of discussion to another specific
> one is a kind of intellectual bankruptcy. It reminds me of a famous
> joke. A clever boy sat in exam. He memorised an essay on cows but
> the question paper asked him to write an essay on a river. He
> started. "There was a river. A cow was gazing on its bank. A cow
> has two eyes ... "
>
> How logical is it to make indecent remarks on someone on the ground
> that people of the same party did something which was not decent? An
> Awami League leader celebrated rape century in Jahangirnagar
> University. Should it be reflected while EC makes remark on Sheikh
> Hasina?
>
> Regarding some Islamic parties position on registration in EC, you
> know that it is not new in our politics to change their demands at
> different stages of negotiations. Will you kindly mention what was
> AL's position
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ahsan Mohammed
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Ahsan Mohammed,
> >
> > My problem was your exclusion of ISI, the worst of the foreign
> > intelligence services in our area. To me that was not honesty.
> That
> > doesn't mean that I excluded the others. Especially how can I
> exclude
> > CIA who was involved in killing Bangabandhu and other top national
> > leaders and installing army backed nationalist force in
> Bangladesh? How
> > can I ignore CIA's direct and indirect contribution in return and
> > revival of war criminals in Bangladesh?
> >
> > If supporting lying and hypocrisy of people from Al Badr background
> are
> > part of your socio-cultural background, that I have noting to say.
> And
> > of course, you also can consider what these so-called pseudo-Islamic
> > leaders did in 1971 as very decent, but to me they are just
> savages.
> > You live with your views and I have nothing to say.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Mohammad Musa Sarkar.
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroup
> > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
> > >
> > > I do not understand how you deduced that I read only right-wing
> > > Bangladeshi newspapers? I have not quoted from any newspaper or
> > > mentioned any piece of news. I have presented my own analysis of
> > > some facts. If you have any difference of opinion about any
> specific
> > > point, please mention it. I also do not understand why you are
> > > defending RAW, MOSAD and CIA. Other intelligence agencies might
> also
> > > be interested in BD politics. If you have any analysis about it,
> > > please mention it with reasons. If you think that RAW, MOSAD and
> CIA
> > > has no interest in BD politics, please also provide your logic
> behind
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Decency and indecency varies from person to person and has
> relation
> > > with the socio-cultural background of someone. If you think that
> > > CEC's remarks on some Islamic parties were decent, then it is your
> > > view and I have nothing to say.
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Ahsan Mohammed,
> > > >
> > > > May be you are only reading the right-wing Bangladeshi
> newpapers.
> > > If
> > > > you read the other papers, you will find more conspiracies. You
> > > will
> > > > find many who consider this current CTG as Jamaat's B team. This
> > > CTG
> > > > has been extraordinarily soft on Jamaat and other religious
> > > fanatics and
> > > > extremists. Look at the joke and circus regarding Al Badr co-
> chief
> > > > Mujahid's arrest. While people like you always smell RAW, MOSSAD
> > > and
> > > > CIA conspiracies, there are lot more people who smell CIA, ISI
> and
> > > > Wahabi conspiracies. It goes both ways.
> > > >
> > > > Your article in Naya Diganta presents only right-wing view
> points
> > > and it
> > > > cannot be accepted as fair and balanced piece. ISI is one of the
> > > top
> > > > players in Indian subcontinent. They are behind many subversive
> > > acts.
> > > > They created Talibans and hence aided Al Qaeda. To leave them
> out
> > > from
> > > > your equation strongly suggest, you are pushing right-wing
> agenda.
> > > You
> > > > mentioned in your article that since BNP's leadership is trying
> to
> > > > negotiate with CTG, they didn't protest CEC's very indecent
> > > > comments on the pseudo-Islamic partners of BNP. May be you can
> > > teach us
> > > > what kind of decent words the CEC should have used for their
> > > outright
> > > > lies. Let me make another very indecent and rude comment about
> > > these
> > > > mullahs - these mullahs actively and enthusiastically
> participated
> > > in
> > > > all sorts of heinous war crimes in 1971. Regards-
> > > >
> > > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup
> > > > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Alochok Ezajur,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is good to know that there are enlightened and powerful
> elites
> > > who
> > > > > welcome conspiracies against their motherland apparently
> because,
> > > > >
> > > > > “You can’t ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > You can’t ensure there won’t be any rioting or
> > deaths at
> > > > the election.
> > > > > You can’t ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > You can’t ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > You can’t ensure that kickbacks from government contracts
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > spotted.
> > > > > You can’t ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> > politicians.
> > > > > You can’t ensure that politicians will refrain from rabble
> > > > rousing.
> > > > > You can’t ensure that MPs won’t financially benefit
> > from
> > > > crooked
> > > > > manpower agents.�
> > > > >
> > > > > Can Indians ensure the above-mentioned checklist? If they are
> > > happy
> > > > > with their spoiled democracy, then why aren’t we?
> > > > >
> > > > > How logical is it to welcome military rule or foreign
> intervention
> > > > > because democracy has not yet got sufficient time to
> flourish? Who
> > > > > ruled the country most of the time after its independence,
> > > democratic
> > > > > forces or military rulers with or without uniform?
> > > > >
> > > > > The notion that Americans and others can buy anything they
> want
> > > seems
> > > > > to be an oversimplified assumption. If it were true, then the
> > > world
> > > > > would not have so many wars and troubles. Moreover, sometimes
> > > buying
> > > > > things might involve very high value. The more we welcome
> > > > > conspiracies, the more we become ready to sell ourselves (not
> > > > > personal, saying in general).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup
> ezajur.rahman@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Alcohok Ahsan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is indeed very well written. But I am not remotely
> bothered
> > > by
> > > > > > conspiracies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In fact I welcome them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure there won't be any rioting or deaths at the
> > > > > election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that kickbacks from government contracts
> will
> > > be
> > > > > > spotted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> politicians.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that politicians will refrain from rabble
> > > rousing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that MPs won't financially benefit from
> crooked
> > > > > > manpower agents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure jack****.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But let's talk about how to stop foreign conspiracies! Woah!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bhai -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It takes 3 ISI agents only to manage Pakistan's interests
> > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It takes 2 RAW agents only to manage India's interests in
> > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And it is just a wet dream that the Americans, Brits,
> Chinese
> > > etc
> > > > > are
> > > > > > working hard to subvert the elections.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why should they even bother? They can buy anything they
> want...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The common masses cannot do anything until the common
> masses can
> > > > > > successfully demand real change in our politics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The biggest conspiracy in Bangladesh is the perpetuation of
> > > family
> > > > > > politics by mid level AL and BNP supporters who just love to
> > > pretend
> > > > > > they are very flexible, agenda free, reasonable people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any conspiracy that undermines the election of Hasina and
> > > Khaleda
> > > > > and
> > > > > > undermines the baboons of the AL and BNP central committees
> is
> > > > > welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know where I can make a donation...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We can't build a boat to carry 200 people safely in 2008
> but we
> > > sure
> > > > > > kicked the 5th Fleet back to the USA back in 1971 didn't we!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing personal Ahsan - your piece was excellently
> written. I'm
> > > > > just
> > > > > > ranting...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Ahsan Mohammad vai
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very well written analysis. Though there is no way of
> knowing
> > > for
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > that such incidents will take place, but many indications
> are
> > > > > pointing
> > > > > > towards that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What can we, the common mass, do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:27 AM, alochona@yahoogroup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a Better Bangladesh
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> > > > > > Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:13 pm (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Although the Chief Advisor and other members of the interim
> > > > > government
> > > > > > are trying to ensure through their speeches that the general
> > > > > election
> > > > > > will be held in December 2008 and power will be handed over
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > elected representatives of people, doubts and fears are
> > > spreading
> > > > > due to
> > > > > > some activities of the ruling quarter. I tried to analyse
> the
> > > > > possible
> > > > > > conspiracies and strategies of various players involved in
> > > > > influencing
> > > > > > Bangladesh politics in my article published in Daily Naya
> > > Diganta
> > > > > and is
> > > > > > available at the following link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dailynay
> > > > > News_ID=108371&s
> > > > > > ec=6
> > > > > > <http://www.dailynay
> > > > > News_ID=108371&
> > > > > > sec=6>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.sonarban
> > > > > > <http://www.sonarban
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will highly appreciate if you kindly share your views on
> this
> > > > > issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
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