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Group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen has claimed responsibility
Some analysts discount little-known group's claim
U.S. counterterrorism official: Sophistication might point to other groups
Deccan Mujahideen took credit in e-mails sent to several Indian news outlets
From Barbara Starr and Phil Black CNN (CNN) — A group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen has claimed responsibility for Wednesday's coordinated and deadly attacks in southern Mumbai, India, but security analysts know next to nothing about the group, and some discount its claim.
Intelligence officials from India and beyond are trying to determine who the attackers were and what their motivation was. The attacks left at least 125 people dead and more than 300 injured at a handful of sites across Mumbai.
"Deccan Mujahideen seem to be this amazing group that has come out of nowhere, that has been operating under the radar for all this time, yet able to mount such a sophisticated and well-coordinated attack," security analyst Will Geddes told CNN. And that, he suggested, is unlikely.
One highly placed intelligence official who has been briefed on the attacks said that the head of the operation is a Bangladeshi and that the militants are Indians, Kashmiris and Bangladeshis. The Indian military has sustained a large number of casualties, the source said.
A U.S. counterterrorism official said the level of sophistication in the attack leads officials to believe that it might be tied to Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (Army of the Pure), an Islamic extremist group that has carried out previous attacks in India. Watch CNN's Phil Black look at who may be behind the attacks »
LeT, as the group is known, is thought to have been responsible for a string of bombs that ripped through packed Mumbai commuter trains and platforms in July 2006, killing more than 200 people.
The group denied involvement in the attacks Thursday.
"The LeT has no links with Deccan Mujahideen," a caller identifying himself as Abdulla Ghaznavi, an LeT spokesman, told CNN. He said the group condemns the Mumbai attacks and demands an international inquiry into them. iReport.com: Are you there? Send photos and video and share your story
The U.S. State Department says Lashkar-e-Tayyiba has several thousand members in the Pakistan-controlled part of Kashmir and calls it one of the three largest and best-trained groups fighting against India.
Kashmir, divided between India and Pakistan and claimed by both, has been wracked by an 18-year separatist campaign that authorities say has left at least 43,000 dead.Watch: Analyst says 'don't jump to conclusions' »
The counterterrorism official mentioned another group, Jaish-e-Mohammed, which is based in Pakistan and, like LeT, fights for the end of Indian rule in Kashmir. The use of fighters with handheld weapons and grenades against fixed targets would be the type of attack either group would be capable of conducting, the official said.
What is different is the deliberate targeting of Westerners, the official said.
A senior U.S. official said, "our attention is focused on the sophistication of the execution of the attacks." Watch a witness describe the scene »
The sophistication was "to the extent it does not seem like Deccan Mujahideen could carry it off, so the question is, did they have outside help?" the source asked.
Both U.S. sources, meanwhile, said the attacks do not seem to point to al Qaeda, which usually launches mass-casualty attacks using vehicles or suicide vests and does not usually take hostages.
Another group being mentioned as a possible culprit is the Indian Mujahideen, a Muslim militant group that emerged about a year ago. Despite its relatively new status, the organization is thought to have the organizational capability to carry out such attacks, said Paul Cruickshank, a fellow at the Center on Law and Security at New York University's School of Law.
The group has declared "open war" against India in retaliation for what it said were 60 years of Muslim persecution and the country's support of U.S. policies.
In September, the group said it was behind a series of explosions that ripped through busy marketplaces in New Delhi, killing 24 people and wounding about 100. The group also claimed responsibility in May for near-simultaneous bomb attacks that killed 63 people in the northwest city of Jaipur.
Officially, the Indian government has said no one has claimed responsibility for this week's Mumbai attacks. The Deccan Mujahideen claims came in e-mails to several Indian media outlets.
Deccan refers to the Deccan Plateau, which makes up the majority of the southern part of the country. "Deccan" is an Anglicized form of "dakkhin," which means south. Read more on the international reaction
Mujahideen translates into "those engaged in the struggle for jihad." Although "jihad" in Islam can mean any endeavor that requires dedication, the term has taken on a militant tone in recent years.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh suggested in a television address that the attacks were launched by people from outside the country.
"Itis evident that the group which carried out these attacks, based outside the country, had come with single-minded determination to create havoc in the financial capital of the country," Singh said.
Indian security experts agree that the attackers came from outside the country.
"What you're seeing is that these types of attacks are established. There's a network. There's well-planned reconnaissance and logistics and financial support. It could only be from a group that's receiving international support, obviously with a domestic dimension," terrorism expert Sajjan Gohel said.
"This time, there was a multipronged approach. It wasn't just about targeting Indians. It was an aim, but it wasn't the only one," Gohel said. "They also wanted to go after Westerners, as well. They wanted to create a lack of confidence in people traveling to India, hit at the economy, hit at the tourism industry."
Fingers have also been pointed toward Pakistan, India's neighbor. The two nations, both nuclear powers, have a tense relationship.
"It's everybody's right to say what they want to say, but as far as my country is concerned, we are already hit by this terrorism," Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told CNN's Reza Sayah. Watch the Pakistani PM condemn the attacks »
"I think this is a heinous crime, and we condemn it," Gilani said. "And I think this terrorism is a menace for the whole world, and therefore we have to work jointly to combat terrorism and extremism."
Husain Haqqani, Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, released a statement saying that terrorism "is a threat to both India and Pakistan."
"Pakistan has vehemently condemned the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. It is unfair to blame Pakistan or Pakistanis for these acts of terrorism even before an investigation is undertaken," Haqqani's statement reads. "Instead of scoring political points at the expense of a neighboring country that is itself a victim of terrorism, it is time for India's leaders to work together with Pakistan's elected leaders in putting up a joint front against terrorism."
CNN's Nic Robertson contributed to this report.
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Group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen has claimed responsibility
Some analysts discount little-known group's claim
U.S. counterterrorism official: Sophistication might point to other groups
Deccan Mujahideen took credit in e-mails sent to several Indian news outlets
From Barbara Starr and Phil Black CNN (CNN) — A group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen has claimed responsibility for Wednesday's coordinated and deadly attacks in southern Mumbai, India, but security analysts know next to nothing about the group, and some discount its claim.
Intelligence officials from India and beyond are trying to determine who the attackers were and what their motivation was. The attacks left at least 125 people dead and more than 300 injured at a handful of sites across Mumbai.
"Deccan Mujahideen seem to be this amazing group that has come out of nowhere, that has been operating under the radar for all this time, yet able to mount such a sophisticated and well-coordinated attack," security analyst Will Geddes told CNN. And that, he suggested, is unlikely.
One highly placed intelligence official who has been briefed on the attacks said that the head of the operation is a Bangladeshi and that the militants are Indians, Kashmiris and Bangladeshis. The Indian military has sustained a large number of casualties, the source said.
A U.S. counterterrorism official said the level of sophistication in the attack leads officials to believe that it might be tied to Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (Army of the Pure), an Islamic extremist group that has carried out previous attacks in India. Watch CNN's Phil Black look at who may be behind the attacks »
LeT, as the group is known, is thought to have been responsible for a string of bombs that ripped through packed Mumbai commuter trains and platforms in July 2006, killing more than 200 people.
The group denied involvement in the attacks Thursday.
"The LeT has no links with Deccan Mujahideen," a caller identifying himself as Abdulla Ghaznavi, an LeT spokesman, told CNN. He said the group condemns the Mumbai attacks and demands an international inquiry into them. iReport.com: Are you there? Send photos and video and share your story
The U.S. State Department says Lashkar-e-Tayyiba has several thousand members in the Pakistan-controlled part of Kashmir and calls it one of the three largest and best-trained groups fighting against India.
Kashmir, divided between India and Pakistan and claimed by both, has been wracked by an 18-year separatist campaign that authorities say has left at least 43,000 dead.Watch: Analyst says 'don't jump to conclusions' »
The counterterrorism official mentioned another group, Jaish-e-Mohammed, which is based in Pakistan and, like LeT, fights for the end of Indian rule in Kashmir. The use of fighters with handheld weapons and grenades against fixed targets would be the type of attack either group would be capable of conducting, the official said.
What is different is the deliberate targeting of Westerners, the official said.
A senior U.S. official said, "our attention is focused on the sophistication of the execution of the attacks." Watch a witness describe the scene »
The sophistication was "to the extent it does not seem like Deccan Mujahideen could carry it off, so the question is, did they have outside help?" the source asked.
Both U.S. sources, meanwhile, said the attacks do not seem to point to al Qaeda, which usually launches mass-casualty attacks using vehicles or suicide vests and does not usually take hostages.
Another group being mentioned as a possible culprit is the Indian Mujahideen, a Muslim militant group that emerged about a year ago. Despite its relatively new status, the organization is thought to have the organizational capability to carry out such attacks, said Paul Cruickshank, a fellow at the Center on Law and Security at New York University's School of Law.
The group has declared "open war" against India in retaliation for what it said were 60 years of Muslim persecution and the country's support of U.S. policies.
In September, the group said it was behind a series of explosions that ripped through busy marketplaces in New Delhi, killing 24 people and wounding about 100. The group also claimed responsibility in May for near-simultaneous bomb attacks that killed 63 people in the northwest city of Jaipur.
Officially, the Indian government has said no one has claimed responsibility for this week's Mumbai attacks. The Deccan Mujahideen claims came in e-mails to several Indian media outlets.
Deccan refers to the Deccan Plateau, which makes up the majority of the southern part of the country. "Deccan" is an Anglicized form of "dakkhin," which means south. Read more on the international reaction
Mujahideen translates into "those engaged in the struggle for jihad." Although "jihad" in Islam can mean any endeavor that requires dedication, the term has taken on a militant tone in recent years.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh suggested in a television address that the attacks were launched by people from outside the country.
"Itis evident that the group which carried out these attacks, based outside the country, had come with single-minded determination to create havoc in the financial capital of the country," Singh said.
Indian security experts agree that the attackers came from outside the country.
"What you're seeing is that these types of attacks are established. There's a network. There's well-planned reconnaissance and logistics and financial support. It could only be from a group that's receiving international support, obviously with a domestic dimension," terrorism expert Sajjan Gohel said.
"This time, there was a multipronged approach. It wasn't just about targeting Indians. It was an aim, but it wasn't the only one," Gohel said. "They also wanted to go after Westerners, as well. They wanted to create a lack of confidence in people traveling to India, hit at the economy, hit at the tourism industry."
Fingers have also been pointed toward Pakistan, India's neighbor. The two nations, both nuclear powers, have a tense relationship.
"It's everybody's right to say what they want to say, but as far as my country is concerned, we are already hit by this terrorism," Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told CNN's Reza Sayah. Watch the Pakistani PM condemn the attacks »
"I think this is a heinous crime, and we condemn it," Gilani said. "And I think this terrorism is a menace for the whole world, and therefore we have to work jointly to combat terrorism and extremism."
Husain Haqqani, Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, released a statement saying that terrorism "is a threat to both India and Pakistan."
"Pakistan has vehemently condemned the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. It is unfair to blame Pakistan or Pakistanis for these acts of terrorism even before an investigation is undertaken," Haqqani's statement reads. "Instead of scoring political points at the expense of a neighboring country that is itself a victim of terrorism, it is time for India's leaders to work together with Pakistan's elected leaders in putting up a joint front against terrorism."
CNN's Nic Robertson contributed to this report.
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Gandhiji told the country would be divided onto my body.The country was divided on British policy.The ultra patriotic shooted him. Gandhi became more famous .
We the people of subcintinent are suffering now killing each other. We would be the strong nation in the world in all matters if we were in one country.
The politicians of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan should meet but I think it will not be fruitful because we no one has liberal and high mind.
Sentu
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From: shamsuddoulah@yahoo.com <shamsuddoulah@yahoo.com> Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Gunmen kill at least 78 in attacks across Mumbai : Another Religious Terrorism? To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 1:46 PM
Dear esteemed readers of Mukto-Mona forum the Mumbai terroris incident on Novemver 26-27, 2008 is very sad and unfortunate.
The mistakes of 1947 partition at the instance of Jawaharlal Nehru will continue to strike from time to time.
Sooner the better it will be if the leaders of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh sit together and forms a confederation. The selfish politicians and their associates cannot go unpunished by Nature.
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I/III. This very much resembles a military operation carried out by trained commandoes. Somewhat similar as earlier attacks on the Red Fort, J&K Assembly, Indian Parliament and Akshardham during 2001-02. But much larger in scale and evidently far more meticulously planned. The additional dimension, like in the Akshardham episode, is hostage taking. Similar to that of plane hijacking to Kandahar. Quite significantly, this time the Foreign Minister of Pakistan is on tour to India and like some other world leaders has strongly condemned the attack.
Apart from some alleged response lag, there is a persistent huge gaping hole in intelligence gathering. This is the first thing that has got to be addressed. Even the way three senior police officers have died of bullet wounds, not grenade attacks, leaves a big question mark. The vast coastline remains highly unprotected. The offshore installations call for highest degree of protection.
Instead of trying to foment passion and helping things turn from awfully bad to even worse, minds must be seriously applied. The worst thing is to lose sanity and allow oneself to be driven by mindless and ugly blood lust. That's the surest recipe for disaster.
We must not fall deeper in that trap if we care for our own lives and our near and dear ones.
Sukla Sen
II. THE JIHADI MASSACRE IN MUMBAI Dr. Babu Suseelan Nov 27, 2008
Several Jihadi terrorists have stormed luxury hotels, crowded railway stations and an old Jewish center in Mumbai, killing more than 100 people. Hundreds of people were injured. Among the dead were Indians, Australians, Japanese and British. Jihadi terrorists also seized the Mumbai headquarters of the Jewish outreach group center Chabad Lubavitch.
The savage and predatory Jihadi terrorism in Mumbai is aimed at reasserting or tightening Jihadi control over the Kafir country, India. Jihadi terrorism is nothing new in India. It is as old as Islamic invasion of India. It is widespread and systemic. Jihadi terrorism is an intrinsic part of Islam.
Jihadi terrorism could not flourish as it does without the support or at least toleration of the institutions like the media, the judiciary, the police and bureaucracy. The bogus secular Congress government, media and the alienated Indian intellectuals do not openly condemn Jihadi terrorism. By treating Jihadi terrorism as individual acts of disgruntled Muslims, journalists, social scientists and pseudo secular political leaders conceal the Islamic politics underlying Jihadi terrorism. They whitewash Islamic terrorism with bogus theories and phony social analysis and in the process preclude public discussion on the real cause of Jihadi terrorism namely Islam. Yet without public discussion on the root cause of Jihadi terrorism we cannot plumb the reverberations on the Islamic psyche of feeling permitted to terrorize non-Muslims.
The history of modern India is a shameful chronicle of the pseudo secular Congress party's disinterest and indifference in curtaining Jihadi terrorism. The Congress government leader's deliberate trampling of citizen's rights and their repeated betrayal of public trust has grown up behind a curtain of denial, indifference and ignorance.
The recent Jihadi terrorism in Mumbai proves the horrible betrayal of the ruling Congress party which is nothing than genocide. The Congress policy on Jihadi terrorism promulgated by Italian Sonia Manio's government, under the auspicious of Manmohan Singh is a disguised program of appeasement of Jihadis through extra privileges. The Congress government instead of acknowledging its legal and moral responsibilities to the majority and safeguarding freedom and security in good faith, now proposes to wash its own hands on the majority, passing the buck to disgruntled Islamists.
It is time for the majority to challenge the Congress government to reexamine their unfortunate and ineffective policy on Jihadi terrorism. Instead of offering hope, freedom, safety and security, the Congress government is providing despair and fear, frustration instead of freedom, cultural annihilation instead of life in the just society.
It seems that the Congress government shows more interest in preserving and protecting Jihadi terrorists than the peace loving nationalist majority. We have witnessed the growing concern of Jihadi terrorism in all major cities of India. Hundreds of people were dead and injured. We have watched the justifiably indignant reaction of fellow Indians to the horrors of Jihadi terrorism in New Delhi, Assam, Kerala, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Ahmadabad, Vododhara, and Coimbatore. Television has brought into our homes the sad plight of dead and injured people and their families. Yet the government has ignored the plight of the victims and the seriousness of Jihadi terrorism.
The facts are available, dutifully complied and checked over by the police and intelligence agencies. The ruling Congress party's deliberate ignorance and indifference on Jihadi terrorism is in inexcusable and suicidal.
The government has almost endless resources to wipe out Jihadi terrorism. But the Congress government and the political leaders responsible for matters relating to security have been outstanding in their indifference and ignorance and remarkable in their insensitivity to the security needs and aspirations of the peace loving, and tolerant majority. More often, government leaders are busy appeasing criminal thinking Muslims and terrorists and buckle under Islamic political pressure. The government leaders make decisions, the policies, the plans and programs to encourage, appease, and promote Jihadi terrorism in order to increase their own importance and stress the need for their own continued presence.
If the majority citizens are to realize their potential, and protect their freedom, safety and security, they have to take part in Indian affairs. They have to flex their muscles. If the present leadership is unable to come to terms with Jihadi terrorism, unable to confront its root cause that is Islam, unable to win respect for the rights and safety of the majority, the public will have no reason to believe that the existing political system has much meaning for them. The public should organize and organize effectively to destroy the Jihadi-Congress nexus. Only by being active, can we ever be at peace.
III. It is 4AM in India right now. I am in Mumbai reporting from the ground. I have not slept a wink. Mumbai is under attack. People and forces who killed Mahatama Gandhi, who demolished the Babari Mosque have triumphed. More than 16 groups of terrorists have taken over Taj, Oberai and several hotels. Hundreds of people are dead. For the first time no one is blaming Muslim organizations. The Mumbai ATS chief Hemant Karkare and other officers of the ATS have been killed. These were the same people who were investigating the Malegaon Blasts--in which Praggya Singh, an army officer and several other noted personalities of the BJP-RSS-Bajrang Dal-VHP were arrested. Karkare was the man to arrest them. Karkare was receiving threats from several quarters. LK Advani, the BJP chief and several other prominent leaders of the so-called Hindu terrorism squad were gunning for his head. And the first casualty in the terrorist attack was Karkare! He is dead--gone--the firing by terrorists began from Nariman House--which is the only building in Mumbai inhabited by Jews. Some Hindu Gujaratis of the Nariman area spoke live on several TV channels--they openly said that the firing by terrorists began from Nariman house. And that for two years suspicious activities were going on in this house. But no one took notice. Our worst fears have come true. It is clear that Mossad is involved in the whole affair. An entire city has been attacked by Mossad and probably units of mercenaries. It is not possible for one single organization to plan and execute such a sophisticated operation. It is clear that this operation was backed by communal forces from within the Indian State. The Home Minister Shivraj Patil should resign. The RSS-BJP-VHP-Bajrang Dal should be banned. Advani and others ought to be arrested. Today is a day of shame for all Indians and all Hindus. Muslims and secular Hindus have been proven right. RSS type forces and Israel are all involved in not only destabilizing but finishing India. India should immediately snap all relations with Israel. We owe this much to Karkare and the brave ATS men who had shown the courage to arrest Praggya Singh, Raj Kumar Purohit, the army officer and several others. A photograph publushed in Urdu Times, Mumbai, clearly shows that Mossad and ex-Mossad men came to India and met Sadhus and other pro-Hindutva elements recently. A conspiracy was clearly hatched. This is a moment of reckoning especially for Hindus of India. The killers of Gandhi have struck again. If we are true Sanatanis and true Hindus and true nationalists and true patriots we have to see this act as a clear attack by anti-national deshdrohi forces. Praggya Singh, Advani and the entire brand is anti-national. They ought to be shot. Any Hindu siding with them is hereafter warned of serious consequences.
This is a question of nationalism. If no one else, the Indian army will not take this lying down. Communal, anti-national forces have attacked the very foundation of the Indian constitution and the nation. We will fight a civil war if need be against the pro-Hindutva, communal forces and their Israeli backers.
Amaresh Misra
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190Yahoo! Groups Links
Terrorism begets terrorism.Non-violence has no alternative.
Thousands of terrorism took place in many parts of India. Govt. could not able to reduce it, instead the fatal incidents are on increasing rate. And I think no Government can stop or reduce terrorism.
If you or me or any one would present in the site where the act of terrorism took place we would be ready to die.
It is very difficult to find out the root cause of terrorism. Psychiatrist can know the cause partially. The day we will be able to know distinctly the real cause of terrorism even that day it will not be stopped.
The only way to stop terrorism is '' Chitta Suddhi" or "Atma Sudhhi".
Terrorism is in the blood of terrorists. It is their passion and satisfaction. If the terrorists can not act year after year or if they are being stopped from the act of terrorism they will die automatically.
Only the terrorists can become the follower of non- violence through the process of " Suddhikaran ". I think only God (if God exists) or some miracle can make the terrorists the follower of nonviolence.
Raja Rammohan Ray expressed the view point that God is one and only one.
But religious Pundits or Moulabis of different sects express the view point that different religion has different God.Some one has Allah, some has Bhagaban or Iswar or some one has some other name of God.
They teach - Hey guy kill other's God. Before going to killing spree do prayer to your God for blessing. So they do before going for killing spree- "Jay Sriram" or "Allahu Akbar" or some ones do not utter any 'shit'.They are more sofisticated. They search American and British in the Taj Hotel of Mumbai one day ago.
This gives a negative affect to India. It seems India is now not a safe place to Westernaers.It will affect the economic growth of India and China will take the title of Superpower after 20 years and will be the 'Boss' who will whip the world what US is doing now. That time India will suffer with more severe problems. It may be attacked by it neighbor all of a sudden. So India should fight terrorism at its best level and should accept US proposal of help.
Sentu Tikadar
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From: SJPRASHANT, Ahmedabad@yahoo.com <SJPRASHANT, Ahmedabad@yahoo.com> Subject: [mukto-mona] PRESS RELEASE - PRASHANT CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS IN BOMBAY.... To: sjprashant@gmail.com Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 12:47 PM
Prashant. A Centre for Human Rights, Justice and Peace
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PRESS RELEASE
PRASHANT CONDEMNSTERRORISTATTACKSIN BOMBAY
We,strongly condemn the ghastly terrorist attacks in various parts of Bombay on Wednesday, 26th November 2008.
Terrorism knows no religion.Any form of terrorism – any attack on life or on property, hasno place in our efforts to build a more humane, just and peaceful society and should be
dealt with sternly.
We sympathize with all the victims of these attacks – very specially, with those who have lost their loved one / s.
We ask those responsible for these dastardly acts, to eschew violence – to stop destroying thefabric of our society.
We urge the Governments – both at the Centre and the States, to shed all theirprejudicesand differences, shun vote-bank politics or seek political mileage from these acts, and stand
united in the effort to fight terrorism and ensure a more secure, non-violent and peaceful India .
Fr. Cedric Prakash
Director
27th November 2008
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Muslim Brotherhood are the group whose followers have done this disgusting act and are trying to fool the world with faux condemnations posted for consumption of the gullible and at the same time conspiracy theories posted to confuse the moderate Muslims.
--- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "S A Hannan" wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ikhwan web" <info@...> > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:02 AM > Subject: Fwd: The Muslim Brotherhood Condemns Terrorist Attacks in India > > > > ------=_Part_41890_21160255.1227787339500 > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Ikhwan web <info@...> > > Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:38 PM > > Subject: The Muslim Brotherhood Condemns Terrorist Attacks in India > > > > > > The Muslim Brotherhood Condemns Terrorist Attacks in India > > IkhwanWeb - Egypt > > [image: Print] [image: Send Email] [image: Add Your Comment][image: > > Facebook] [image: delicious] > > http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18773&LevelID=1&SectionID=0 > > > > *Wednesday, November 26, 2008* > > The MB strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in India, which killed and > > injured hundreds of innocent civilians. These despicable acts of terror > > are > > an attack on humanity in general, not against people from certain > > nationalities or civilization. We hope that perpetrators of these heinous > > be > > brought to justice to receive the ultimate punishment for their crimes. > > > > We must also take this opportunity to remind the world of the suffering of > > the Palestinian people who are the victims of daily terror committed by > > Israel and sanctioned by the free world, by imposing inhumane siege > > against > > millions of civilians, including women and children. > > > > We offer our condolences to the victims' families, and our prayers for > > world > > peace and stability > > > > <http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18773&LevelID=1&SectionID=0> > > > > *Related Topics* > > ** 4MB Condemn the Tragic Attack that killed Benazir Bhutto > > <http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=15004&SectionID=0> > > IkhwanWeb, Pakistan > > 4MB condemned the heinous crime which terrorized Pakistan today > > <http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=15005&SectionID=0> > > IkhwanWeb, United Kingdom > > 4MB Executive Bureau criticizes Bin Laden's latest Audio > > Release<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=15033&SectionID=0> > > > > IkhwanWeb, Egypt > > 4MB Urges Hamas and Fatah Leaders Meeting in Cairo to Reach > > Agreement<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=15736&SectionID=0> > > > > IkhwanWeb - Cairo, Egypt > > 4Algerian MSP Condemns Algiers Suicide > > Attack<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=15731&SectionID=0> > > > > IkhwanWeb, Algeria > > 4Morsi Condemns Algeria Tragic > > Blasts<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=17626&SectionID=0> > > > > IkhwanWeb, Egypt > > 4Syria Muslim Brotherhood Denounces Damascus > > Bombing<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18031&SectionID=0> > > > > IkhwanWeb, Egypt > > 4Muslim Brotherhood Deputy Chairman Insists on Palestinians' Right to > > Return<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18745&SectionID=0> > > > > IkhwanWeb, Egypt > > 4Muslim Brotherhood Will Never Endorse Sectarian > > Clashes<http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18765&SectionID=0> > > > > Mustafa Radwan, IkhwanWeb, Egypt > > > > ------=_Part_41890_21160255.1227787339500 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > <div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded > > message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Ikhwan web</b> > > <span dir="ltr"><<a > > href="mailto:info@...">info@...</a>></span><br> > > Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:38 PM<br>Subject: The Muslim Brotherhood > > Condemns Terrorist Attacks in India<br><br><br><div dir="ltr"><span > > style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:Verdana"><table border="0" > > cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%" valign="top" > > style="border-collapse:collapse;font-weight:normal;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,
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The cause for all the troubles in India and elsewhere in the world is summerised below surprisingly by a non-militant
Still, many South Asian Muslims insist Islam is the one and only force that can bring the subcontinent together and return it to preeminence as a single whole. "We [Muslims] were the legal rulers of India, and in 1857 the British took that away from us," says Tarik Jan, a gentle-mannered scholar at Islamabad's Institute of Policy Studies. "In 1947 they should have given that back to the Muslims." Jan is no militant, but he pines for the golden era of the Mughal period in the 1700s, and has a fervent desire to see India, Pakistan and Bangladesh reunited under Islamic rule. That sense of injustice is at the root of Muslim identity today. It has permeated every aspect of society, and forms the basis of rising Islamic radicalism on the subcontinent. "People are hungry for justice," says Ahmed Rashid, Pakistani journalist and author of the new book Descent Into Chaos. "It is perceived to be the fundamental promise of the Koran." These twin phenomena - the longing many Muslims have to see their religion restored as the subcontinent' s core, and the marks of both piety and extremism Islam bears - reflect the lack of strong political and civic institutions in the region for people to have faith in. If the subcontinent' s governments can't provide those institutions, then terrorists such as the Trident's mysterious caller, will continue asking questions. And providing their own answers. With reporting by Jyoti Thottam / Mumbai and Ershad Mahmud / Islamabad
--- On Fri, 28/11/08, S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com> wrote:
India before partition was a peaceful composite population of 80% Hindu-s, 15% Muslims and the rest others.
The Muslim Community voted for a separate Country for Muslims and over 95% were in favour of a separate Muslim Country carved out of India. Jinnah, the son of a Hindu-convert from Junagadh, who was never a practising Muslims, was leading the pro-partition group and resorted to direct action under Suhrawardy in Bengal when thousands of Hindu-s were beheaded by Muslims.
The partition was agreed upon by the British. Dr.Ambedkar wanted total exchange of population before hand over of power so that there would be no Muslims left in Hindu India. This was not agreed upon by Gandhi and Nehru who wanted India to be secular.
The question here is WHEN THE DESIRE OF 95% MUSLIMS FAVOURING SEPARATE COUNTRY FOR MUSLIMS WAS FULFILLED, AND THE FERTILE DELTAS OF SINDH AND BENGAL AS WELL AS FIVE RIVER PUNJAB BELT WAS GIVEN TO PAKISTAN, WHY DID THE MUSLIMS STAY BACK IN INDIA?
THOSE MUSLIMS WHO STAYED BACK SHOULD HAVE REALISED THAT THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS OF THE COUNTRY. WITH THE CONGRESS GOVT. APPEASEMENT/ VOTEBANK POLICIES, MUSLIMS BECAME THE PAMPERED GROUP IN INDIA, THE MADRASSA-S AND MOSQUES GROWING LIKE MUSHROOMS, MUSLIMS POPULATION GROWING LIKE PIGLETS WITH NO FAMILY PLANNING APPLICABLE TO THEM AND THE EXTREMISM STARTED TAKING ROOTS IN MADRASSA-S IN INDIA.
IS DEOBAND A SCHOOL FOR REAL PEACEFUL LIFE? WHO ORIGINATED TABLIGHI IN DEOBAND, WHICH HAS SPREAD ALL OVER THE WORLD AND WAS ALSO A PART OF 9/11 WTC INCIDENT? IT IS THE TABLIGHI-S ORIGINATED FROM DEOBAND THAT HAS LED TO THE WORLDWIDE EXTREMISM IN ISLAM, THE TROUBLE FACED BY ALL COUNTRIES.
IF THE TERRORIST SPOKE OF MUSLIMS SUFFERING IN INDIA, WHAT ABOUT THE 500,000 KASHMIRI HINDU-S DRIVEN POUT OF THEIR STATE AND OVER 25,000 KILLED BY TERRORISTS?
ISLAM CAN NEVER CO-EXIST WITH OTHER FAITHS SO LONG AS IT FOLLOWS THE QURANIC EDICTS CALLING FOR KILLING INFIDELS AT ANY OPPORTUNE MOMENT.
Behind the Mumbai Massacre: India's Muslims in Crisis (TIME.com)
By ARYN BAKER Aryn Baker Thu Nov 27, 11:35 am ET
The disembodied voice was chilling in its rage. A gunman, holed up in Mumbai's Oberoi Trident hotel where some 40 people had been taken hostage, told an Indian news channel that the attacks were revenge for the persecution of Muslims in India. "We love this as our country but when our mothers and sisters were being killed, where was everybody?" he asked via telephone. No answer came. But then he probably wasn't expecting one. The roots of Muslim rage run deep in India, nourished by a long-held sense of injustice over what many Indian Muslims believe is institutionalized discrimination against the country's largest minority group. The disparities between Muslims, which make up 13.4% of the population, and India's Hindu population, which hovers around 80%, are striking. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels, and lower-paying jobs. Add to that toxic brew the lingering resentment over 2002's anti-Muslim riots in the state of Gujarat. The riots, instigated by Hindu nationalists, killed some 2000 people, most of them Muslim. To this day, few of the perpetrators have been convicted. See pictures of the terrorist shootings in Mumbai. The huge gap between Muslims and Hindus will continue to haunt India's, and neighboring Pakistan's, progress towards peace and prosperity. But before inter-communal relations can improve there is an even bigger problem that must first be worked out: the schism in subcontinental Islam, and the religion's place and role in modern India and Pakistan. It is a crisis 150 years in the making. The Beginning of the Problem On the afternoon of March 29, 1857, Mangal Pandey, a handsome, mustachioed soldier in the East India Company's native regiment, attacked his British lieutenant. His hanging a week later sparked a subcontinental revolt known to Indians as the first war of independence and to the British as the Sepoy Mutiny. Retribution was swift, and though Pandey was a Hindu, it was the subcontinent' s Muslims, whose Mughal King nominally held power in Delhi, who bore the brunt of British rage. The remnants of the Mughal Empire were dismantled, and five hundred years of Muslim supremacy on the subcontinent was brought to a halt. Muslim society in India collapsed. The British imposed English as the official language. The impact was cataclysmic. Muslims went from near 100% literacy to 20% within a half-century. The country's educated Muslim Élite was effectively blocked from administrative jobs in the government. Between 1858 and 1878, only 57 out of 3,100 graduates of Calcutta University - then the center of South Asian education - were Muslim. While discrimination by both Hindus and the British played a role, it was as if the whole of Muslim society had retreated to lick its collective wounds. From this period of introspection two rival movements emerged to foster an Islamic ascendancy. Revivalist groups blamed the collapse of their empire on a society that had strayed too far from the teachings of the Koran. They promoted a return to a more pure form of Islam, modeled on the life of the Prophet Muhammad. Others embraced the modern ways of their new rulers, seeking Muslim advancement through the pursuit of Western sciences, culture and law. From these movements two great Islamic institutions were born: Darul Uloom Deoband in northern India, rivaled only by al-Azhar University in Cairo for its teaching of Islam, and Aligarh Muslim University, a secular institution that promoted Muslim culture, philosophy and languages, but left religion to the mosque. These two schools embody the fundamental split that continues to divide Islam in the subcontinent today. "You could say that Deoband and Aligarh are husband and wife, born from the same historical events," says Adil Siddiqui, information coordinator for Deoband. "But they live at daggers drawn." The campus at Deoband is only a three-hour drive from New Delhi through the modern megasuburb of Noida. Strip malls and monster shopping complexes have consumed many of the mango groves that once framed the road to Deoband, but the contemporary world stops at the gate. The courtyards are packed with bearded young men wearing long, collared shirts and white caps. The air thrums with the voices of hundreds of students reciting the Koran from open-door classrooms. See TIME's Pictures of the Week. Founded in 1866, the Deoband School quickly set itself apart from other traditional madrasahs, which were usually based in the home of the village mosque's prayer leader. Deoband's founders, a group of Muslim scholars from New Delhi, instituted a regimented system of classrooms, coursework, texts and exams. Instruction is in Urdu, Persian and Arabic, and the curriculum closely follows the teachings of the 18th century Indian Islamic scholar Mullah Nizamuddin Sehalvi. Graduates go on to study at Cairo's al-Azhar and Islamic University of Medina in Saudi Arabia, or found their own Deobandi institutions. Today, more than 9,000 Deobandi madrasahs are scattered throughout India, Afghanistan and Pakistan, most infamously the Dara-ul-Uloom Haqaniya Akora Khattak, near Peshawar, where Mullah Mohammed Omar, and several other leaders of Afghanistan' s Taliban first tasted a life lived in accordance with Shari'a. Siddiqui visibly stiffens when those names are brought up. They have become synonymous with Islamic radicalism, and Siddiqui is careful to disassociate his institution from those that carry on its traditions, without actually condemning their actions. "Our books are being taught there," he says. "They have the same system and rules. But if someone is following the path of terrorism, it is because of local compulsions and local politics." Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, founder of the Anglo-Mohammedan Oriental College at Aligarh in 1877, studied under the same teachers as the founders of Deoband. But he believed that the downfall of India's Muslims was due to their unwillingness to embrace modern ways. He decoupled religion from education, and in his school sought to emulate the culture and training of India's new colonial masters. Islamic culture was part of the curriculum, but so were the latest advances in sciences, medicine and Western philosophy. The medium was English, the better to prepare students for civil-service jobs. He called his school the Oxford of the East. In architecture alone, the campus lives up to that name. A euphoric blend of clock towers, crenellated battlements, Mughal arches, domes and the staid red brick of Victorian institutions that only India's enthusiastic embrace of all things European could produce, the central campus of Aligarh today is haven to a diverse crowd of male, female, Hindu and Muslim students. Its law and medicine schools are among the top-ranked in India, but so are its arts faculty and Quranic Studies Centre. "With all this diversity, language, culture, secularism was the only way to go forward as a nation," says Aligarh's vice-chancellor, P.K. Abdul Azis. "It was the new religion." This fracture in religious doctrine - whether Islam should embrace the modern or revert to its fundamental origins - between two schools less than a day's donkey ride apart when they were founded, was barely remarked upon at the time. But over the course of the next 100 years, that tiny crack would split Islam into two warring ideologies with repercussions that reverberate around the world to this day. Before the split manifested into crisis, however, the founders of both the Deoband and Aligarh universities shared the common goal of an independent India. Pedagogical leanings were overlooked as students and staff of both institutions joined with Hindus across the subcontinent to remove the yoke of colonial rule in the early decades of the 20th century. Two Faiths, Two Nations But nationalistic trends were pulling at the fragile alliance, and India began to splinter along ethnic and religious lines. Following World War I, a populist Muslim poet-philosopher by the name of Muhammad Iqbal framed the Islamic zeitgeist when he questioned the position of minority Muslims in a future, independent India. The solution, Iqbal proposed, was an independent state for Muslim-majority provinces in northwestern India, a separate country where Muslims would rule themselves. The idea of Pakistan was born. Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the Savile Row-suited lawyer who midwifed Pakistan into existence on Aug. 14, 1947, was notoriously ambiguous about how he envisioned the country once it became an independent state. Both he and Iqbal, who were friends until the poet's death in 1938, had repeatedly stated their dream for a "modern, moderate and very enlightened Pakistan," says Sharifuddin Pirzada, Jinnah's personal secretary. Jinnah's own wish was that the Pakistani people, as members of a new, modern and democratic nation, would decide the country's direction. But rarely in Pakistan's history have its people lived Jinnah's vision for a modern Muslim democracy. Only three times in its 62-year history has Pakistan seen a peaceful, democratic transition of power. With four disparate provinces, over a dozen languages and dialects, and powerful neighbors, leaders - be they Presidents, Prime Ministers or army chiefs - have been forced to knit the nation together with the only thing Pakistanis have in common: religion. Following the 1971 civil war, when East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, broke away, the populist Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto embarked on a Muslim identity program to prevent the country from fracturing further. General Mohammed Zia ul-Haq continued the Islamization campaign when he overthrew Bhutto in 1977, hoping to garner favor with the religious parties, the only constituency available to a military dictator. He instituted Shari'a courts, made blasphemy illegal, and established laws that punished fornicators with lashes and held that rape victims could be convicted of adultery. When the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan in December 1979, Pakistan was already poised for its own Islamic revolution. Almost overnight, thousands of refugees poured over the border into Pakistan. Camps mushroomed, and so did madrasahs. Ostensibly created to educate the refugees, they provided the ideal recruiting ground for a new breed of soldier: mujahedin, or holy warriors, trained to vanquish the infidel invaders in America's proxy war with the Soviet Union. Thousands of Pakistanis joined fellow Muslims from across the world to fight the Soviets. As far away as Karachi, high-school kids started wearing "jihadi jackets," the pocketed vests popular with the mujahedin. Says Hamid Gul, then head of the Pakistan intelligence agency charged with arming and training the mujahedin: "In the 1980s, the world watched the people of Afghanistan stand up to tyranny, oppression and slavery. The spirit of jihad was rekindled, and it gave a new vision to the youth of Pakistan." But jihad, as it is described in the Koran, does not end merely with political gain. It ends in a perfect Islamic state. The West's, and Pakistan's, cynical resurrection of something so profoundly powerful and complex unleashed a force whose roots can be found in al-Qaeda's rage, the Taliban's dream of an Islamic utopia in Afghanistan, and in the dozens of radical Islamic groups rapidly replicating themselves in India and around the world today. "The promise of jihad was never fulfilled," says Gul. "Is it any wonder the fighting continues to this day?" Religion may have been used to unite Pakistan, but it is also tearing it apart. India Today In India, Islam is, in contrast, the other - purged by the British, denigrated by the Hindu right, mistrusted by the majority, marginalized by society. India has nearly as many Muslims as all of Pakistan, but in a nation of more than a billion, they are still a minority, with all the burdens that minorities anywhere carry. Government surveys show that Muslims live shorter, poorer and unhealthier lives than Hindus and are often excluded from the better jobs. To be sure, there are Muslim success stories in the booming economy. Azim Premji, the founder of the outsourcing giant Wipro, is one of the richest individuals in India. But, for many Muslims, the inequality of the boom has reinforced their exclusion. Kashmir, a Muslim-dominated state whose fate had been left undecided in the chaos that led up to partition, remains a suppurating wound in India's Muslim psyche. As the cause of three wars between India and Pakistan - one of which nearly went nuclear in 1999 - Kashmir has become a symbol of profound injustice to Indian Muslims who believe that their government cares little for Kashmir's claim of independence, which is based upon a 1948 U.N. resolution promising a plebiscite to determine the Kashmiri people's future. That frustration has spilled into the rest of India in the form of several devastating terrorist attacks that have made Indian Muslims both perpetrators and victims. A mounting sense of persecution, fueled by the government's seeming reluctance to address the brutal anti-Muslim riots that killed more than 2,000 in the state of Gujarat in 2002, has aided the cause of homegrown militant groups. They include the banned Student Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), which was accused of detonating nine bombs in Bombay during the course of 2003, killing close to 80. The 2006 terrorist attacks on the Bombay commuter rail system that killed 183 people were also blamed on SIMI, as well as the pro-Kashmir Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT). Those incidents exposed the all-too-common Hindu belief that Muslims aren't really Indian. "LeT, SIMI, it doesn't matter who was behind these attacks. They are all children of [Pervez] Musharraf," sneered Manish Shah, a Mumbai resident who lost his best friend in the explosions, referring to the then president of Pakistan. In India, unlike Pakistan, Islam does not unify, but divide. Still, many South Asian Muslims insist Islam is the one and only force that can bring the subcontinent together and return it to preeminence as a single whole. "We [Muslims] were the legal rulers of India, and in 1857 the British took that away from us," says Tarik Jan, a gentle-mannered scholar at Islamabad's Institute of Policy Studies. "In 1947 they should have given that back to the Muslims." Jan is no militant, but he pines for the golden era of the Mughal period in the 1700s, and has a fervent desire to see India, Pakistan and Bangladesh reunited under Islamic rule. That sense of injustice is at the root of Muslim identity today. It has permeated every aspect of society, and forms the basis of rising Islamic radicalism on the subcontinent. "People are hungry for justice," says Ahmed Rashid, Pakistani journalist and author of the new book Descent Into Chaos. "It is perceived to be the fundamental promise of the Koran." These twin phenomena - the longing many Muslims have to see their religion restored as the subcontinent' s core, and the marks of both piety and extremism Islam bears - reflect the lack of strong political and civic institutions in the region for people to have faith in. If the subcontinent' s governments can't provide those institutions, then terrorists such as the Trident's mysterious caller, will continue asking questions. And providing their own answers. With reporting by Jyoti Thottam / Mumbai and Ershad Mahmud / Islamabad
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