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Thursday, January 15, 2009

[ALOCHONA] Re: [khabor.com] Is it not a Corruption?

BANGLADESH IS HASINAS BAPER TALUK SO NATI HAS THE SHARE IN THE BOOTY(GOVT. EXCHEQUER)  WHY PROJA'S DARES TO ASK QUESTION ?????????????????????

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Delwar Mazumder <delwar98@hotmail.com> wrote:


Dear Members,
 
Sajib Wajed Joy was Sheikh Hasina's adviser from 1996 to 2001 and his basic salary was US$10,000 + other banifits. This time also she appointed her son as an advisor under the cartain a and he will get all the facilities like a minister in the US with a very handsome salary. Is it not a corruption?
 
Please go to the following and see what is going on.
 
http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/fullnews.asp?News_ID=123966&sec=1
 
Delwar


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[mukto-mona] Comunalism of Americans and American Jews; The most conscienceless nation in world!

 
 
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            Who are secular-minded in Bangladesh will be surprised to hear how much comunal and impperialist most American people might be. From the long term experience about Americans that I earned in this country, I have the feelings that Americans and Israelis are the most conscienceless people in the world. Most Americans think that they have rights to dominate the world. They have right to enjoy most of the wealth of the world by any means-if needed, Americans should go to anywhere in the world to defend their interest. Every American believes that going to fight in Iraq is a patriotic duty to their country. Germans thought in the same way during the second World War when Hitlar was attacking country after country.
        Anyway, let's come to the point. A Jewish American journalis Max Blumenthal made a video documentary  about the demonstrations of Americans and Jews in supporof the genocide in Gaja. He interviewed several Israeli supporters from the demonstrations. Click in the link below for the report given by the leftist US media Democracynow.org or Freespeech TV. I believe you will be surprised to know that Bangalees are far more secular then Americans and Israeli Jews, when you read this.
 
Some groups of jewish have made a rally against the killing in Gaja. But their numbers are limited in few hundreds compared to the thousands of supporters of genocide.
 
Only few Jewish and American intellectuals are protesting against the warcrime of America and Israel. BBC has shown a report about the legacy of American warcrime during the news today. The Vietnam War ended in 1975, but the scourge of dioxin contamination from a herbicide known as Agent Orange did not.  Vietnamese are still paying price for the warcricrime of the American demons.

"The damage inflicted by Agent Orange is much worse than anybody thought at the end of the war," said Professor Nguyen Trong Nhan, the vice-president of the Vietnam Victims of Agent Orange Association (VAVA).

Between 1962 and 1970, millions of gallons of Agent Orange were sprayed across parts of Vietnam. You will soon see a excellent sample of the conscience of American Intellectuals and Scientists when you click in the following link of BBC News.

Professor Nhan, the former president of the Vietnamese Red Cross, denounced the action as "a massive violation of human rights of the civilian population, and a weapon of mass destruction". But since the end of the Vietnam War, Washington has denied any moral or legal responsibility for the toxic legacy said to have been caused by Agent Orange in Vietnam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3798581.stm   This proves that Americans are not at all repented for their undespicable acts in Vietnam. This makes them real and natural monsters of the world. May be they get this monstrous nature in their gene-there should be research for this. Finally, the all kinds of human-killing and disease contagious weapons(chemical, biio and conventional) are being designed by American scientists.

May be this is time to question that was Hitler's crime against humanity was too much compared to the same committed by US imperialism and their hunting dog Israel ?

 

--Rabiul, from New York.

 

 

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RE: [ALOCHONA] Credit to CTG!!


Are we offering enough credit to CTG for creating an awareness, that govt. + officials + politicians, should
work honestly, efficiently?

Have you noiced...PM hasina;s frequent reminder abour honesty, hard work and accountability.....

did we hear such type of sweet words from previous govts...NO.  ..  not at all.

The CTG has been successful, to implant the need of transparency, efficiency and honesty.

It is good to see that AL govt. is taking quick and smart decisions about agriculture, price-lowering and in the
power sector.

Hats off...to CTG. May allah bless them.....with another house in gulshan.

Koda hafez.


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Re: [mukto-mona] Shujon Shobhapoti Durjoner bhumikay!

Professor Muzaffar Ahmed is indeed a BNP person in cloak.  He used to be an adviser in the Zia cabinet.  His TIB finds corruption everywhere in Bangladesh except in the Army Purchase Department, and he preaches that a Prime Minister designate should clear his name from a court whose judges are mostly dubious in character.  Had he proposed impeachment in the parliament, I could have applauded him, but he seems to have little sense of protocol.  Tell us, O Learned Professor, which one gets the priority, public mandate or a lameduck court(which hadn't been able to bring justice to the perpretators of the political murders of 1975).

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:41 PM, <"samaresh baidya"> wrote:

Dear Editor,
 
Good Day. Hope well. I am sending this article for your kind attention.
If possible plz try to attach a pic of Prof. Mozaffar Ahamed.

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=625
 
All the best wishes.
 
Samaresh Baidya
Chittagong
Bangladesh


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[mukto-mona] Israel’s War Crimes and “Change we can believe in”

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[mukto-mona] Muslim Ruler Saudi Monarch is Silent on Gaza genocide by Israel

Muslim Ruler Saudi Monarch is Silent on Gaza genocide by Israel
 
The Monarch of Saudi Arabia King Abdullah and his adminstration is conspicuously silent on the war
crimes & genocide comitted by Israel in Gaza ....
Does any one knows why?\ 
More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed and nearly 5,000 wounded so far.
 
Ahmadinejad urges Saudi king to speak up on Gaza
 
TEHRAN, Iran: Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is urging Saudi Arabia's king to break his "silence" over Israel's Gaza offensive which Palestinian medical officials say has killed more than 1,000 Palestinians.
Thursday's report by the official IRNA news agency quotes Ahmadinejad as saying in a rare message to Abdullah: "Break your silence over the massacre of your children in Gaza."
Ahmadinejad urged Abdullah to clearly announce his stance to "demolish hopes" of those seeking to forge a rift among Islamic countries.
Arab nations have been at odds how to deal with the conflict.
The kingdom is hosting a meeting Thursday on Gaza of Gulf countries. Saudi Arabia is overwhelmingly Sunni, as are the Palestinians.
 
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad waves to the media at the conclusion of his press conference in Tehran, Iran, Thursday, Jan. 15, 2009. Iran's hardline president says the fighting in Gaza between Hamas and Israel has shown that it is "not feasible" for what he calls Israel's "Zionist regime" to continue to live in the region. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says the fighting in Gaza has been "a great lesson for all," saying it shows "the absolute defeat and desperation of this (Israeli) regime." (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)
 

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[ALOCHONA] Re: BAKSAL - Look Busy!!

Another deceitful article from the Human Rights Advocate (?).  In one line he said, "I am against killing of Sheikh Russel."  And in another line, "I am against hanging of the Mujib killers."  Is he against the hanging of Sheikh Russel's killers too?  He cleverly didn't answer that.  While he defends the murder of Sheikh Mujib as an obvious outcome of his failures, he doesn't say anything in defense of the same murderers who also killed women and children.  Why did they have to die for Sheikh Mujib's failure?  I hope our self-styled pro-Islamic Human Rights Advocate answer that in future. 

He is against Mukti Bahini's killing of the children of the Rajakars, but fails to mention whether he is against Rajakars' killing of our children, raping of our mothers and sisters or aiding our enemies. 

He is worried about the prospect of the revival of 1972 constitution because he thinks that's the only constitutional way for AL to revoke the Indemnity Bill.  I don't know which Indemnity Bill he is talking about here.   If it is the one which legalized 1975 murders of innocent people including women and children by Dictator Zia, then it was annulled by a bill passed unopposed in parliament on Nov 12, 1996 and ratified by the President on Nov 14, 1996.  

BAKSAL was introduced in 1975, what does 1972 constitution have to do with it?

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mufassil islam <mufassili@...> wrote:
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> I am against Awami League as always. I am against last rule of BNP. I am against Jamaat. I am in support of Jamaat's right to do politics. I am a great fan of Zia as he went above puny self-indignations and upheld democracy crushing the socio-Communists forces of Col. Taher. I am in support of a ideal Muslim state which will treat all its citizens equally. I am against Che Guevera's gurilla type coupe. I am against George W Bish's terrorism. I am against killing of annocent lives. I am against politics of sheer revenge. I am against killing of Sheikh Russel. I am against Mujib and Zia's killings. I do support the view that ppl of Bangladesh witnessed the failure of Mujib as a stateman and I am of the view that Mujib was a Fidel Castro or Mugabe in the making. I am against hanging of the Mujib killers as I think that was an obvious outcome of Mujib's failures and a cry for freedom against a despot. I believe Mujib was a great revolutionary leader but the worst statesman as well. I believe Ershad did a lot of good works but he is the worst face of a characterless dictator. I am against BAKSAL and against Mukti Bahini's killing of the children of the Rajakars. I believe Bangladesh constitution is being thrown back to 1972 as Indemnity Bill cannot be revoked by any other means as unconstitutional. BAKSAL is coming. Look busy!!!!!!
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> Did it ever cross your mind that a Hindu has exactly the same God-given right to stay in Bangladesh that you and I have?
> They have lived here for generations, in some cases for centuries and yet you accuse them of having a second homeland in India.
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> Should that not tell you that they are discriminated against in this land. No one leaves his home and hearth of his own sweet will and if some of them have been forced to migrate that speaaks bad of us for not giving them their due rights.
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> Let us not think of people as Hindus or Muslims but as human beings, who all deserve to be treated fairly and with respect.
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> When I need to raise an issue favouring a Bihari, first question comes, is he going to stay here (in Bangladesh) answer is 'very doubtful' or 'No'.
> I ask the question for Hindus in my area, is he trying to migrate or he has relatives there (in India)
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> Both of these question have same outcome - there link and base mostly is not here.
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> - I heard this story from a friend who says he witnessed himself - the daughter of a BNP's hindu leader saying to her father - amader Kolkata....
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> - In a small town a goldsmith familly lived for few generations, recently they were three brothers, these days they are only two engaged in the same profession in the anchestor's land. All their earnings were siphoned out and with that the other brother got settled in India and still get financed from the remaining two brothers here, who still live in a same small old house.
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> - If you go to my home town(mostly a common scenario) many big cloth merchants, cereal stockists, sweat meat shops owned by the hindus (marwaries). Over the years they expanded on their stocks only but the shop building or their own houses are still what their parents used to live. Where do their profit goes, why don't they build their homes, buy cars? If you go deep you will see - 'amader kolkatai' gese shob.
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> - Biharies who own big shops in Nowabpur or elsewhere, you can find same like hindus they have their strong connection and link with Pakistan.
> When it may be true that they have their reason to have strong link with thier cherished land but upto what extents can Bangladesh economy and its political science accepts their actions in the society?
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> Do not judge under North American or European context, however they already have problem with the migrants and their strong mechanism can control things in greater extent.
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> From: mufassil islam mufassili@...Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami LeagueTo: alochona@...: Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 12:12 PM
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> is worth a look.. http://www.allbusin ess.com/governme nt/international -organizations- bodies/7850921- 1.html Nevertheless, the issue is Bangladeshi Hindu citizens who were victims of atrocities or are in fear of their safety and security have been either holding or are trying to hold Indian passporrts since early 1990s. Mufassil Islam
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.comFrom: rkhundkar@earthlink .netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:41:39 -0500Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League
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> Who are these Hindu elite? <----Please let us know, How do you know? Provide sources and information that can be independentaly corroborated and audited. India does not allow dual citizenship for any country. Where are you getting your information on muslims from West Bengal, i.e choked with communism <----it seems you are fantascist with third rate information
> -----Original Message----- From: habib rashid Sent: Jan 9, 2009 11:25 AM To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League
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> - Habib--- On Thu, 1/8/09, mufassil islam mufassili@hotmail. com> wrote:
> From: mufassil islam mufassili@hotmail. com>Subject: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami LeagueTo: alochona@yahoogroup s.comDate: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 7:07 AM
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> Dear Readers, The fact is, during Awami League rule, our love affair with India grows stronger. I bet 100% that most of the Hindu elites of the country has had strong ties with West Bengal as they have family ties there and some even have based their businesses there. I am aware of many who even hold dual Indian and Bangladeshi passports and it is true as well that BNP-Jamaat alliances have not done anything to ensure security of the minority during their rule which resulted in oppressions on them by religious fanatics inmbubed with political motives. But this is nothing compared to atrocities on Muslims in India. West Bengal has systematically choked Islam there in the name of Communism. The temples still allows loud kirtons when Azan is banned. Even though Aazan with loud speakers has nothing to do with Islam. Awami League is a wing of Indian Congress and ppl who have eiwther no experience of their rule or ppl who have been following Awami League owing to their devotion to Mujib often fail to realise that. I am not against good relationship with India but I cannot sing the song of romance when I see India does not compromise with its unfair trade-balance with us. The cross border security is relaxed and smuggled Indian items flood the country at a cheaper rate ruining the local producers. If anyone does a research on the regular items it becomes obvious that mainly Indian items have flooded the country pushing the supply UP and prices DOWN and we will easily see that the country gets flooded with black money which will definitely give rise to criminal activities in the society. We buy our rice at the cost of our personal security. There is no other explanation of dropping the price so fast. Imagine! Mufassil IslamHuman Rights Advocate
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.comFrom: kareem871@hotmail. comDate: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:15:31 +0000Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory
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> What a shallow analysis of BNP's election debacle.
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> Keep it up and BNP will cease to exist - Inshallah.
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> NB: As an aside, as one who claims to be a human rights advocate your reference to Munni Saha was irreverent and absolutely unnecessary.
> Likewise, if you expect to be taken seriously, you must stick to your analysis professionally without making crude remarks like Jalil being a drunkard.
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.comFrom: mufassili@hotmail. comDate: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:05:21 +0000Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory
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> Dear Readers, The equation is very simple. The factors that played into Awami League's victory: 1. Awami League and BNP are originally almost at par with their number of supporters. Awami league's regular supporters did vote for Awami League as usual and they had no reason to love BNP - so Awami League grabbed the regular devoted votes; 2. The Swing Voters wanted to teach BNP a lesson for their corruption and had no other alternative than Mohajot as voting for BNP would have justified Tarek's corrupt practice - so they voted for alternative - ie., Awami League - having no other alternative; 3. The BNP supporters or activists were divided as to pro-change and anti-change groups, the defelctors like Bodrudouza and Oli gave reasons to the exploiters and anti-BNP lobbies reason to ponder upon BNP's coordination and disciplined approach; 4. BNP stalwarts or the pivotal leaders were kept behind the bars until the last few days on very simple cases which were easily bailable when Awami League had almost all their pivotal figures out of jail all the time (well even drunkard Jalil was out of jail); 5. Awami League had always supported the caretaker Govt and had promised to legalise their unconstitutional (although I think constitution itself has become a laugh) works if voted to power; 6. Hasina had a few anti-Jamaati Islamic groups in her pocket which got the votes of anti-Jamaati pro-Islamic ppl on their side and Hasian promised not to enact any anti-Islamic laws; 7. Ershad commands a few BNP votes as well owing to his military past; 8. New generation of voters did not have the experience of seeing Awami League's rule as adults rather they saw the corrupt rule of Tarek which made them anti-BNP and they read Awami League made ppl drink 'Vaater Fan' in drains from adults like us and they were too young to understand that Awami League always failed to control crime; 9. Awami League is better in price control when BNP is not good at that and owing to present price hike - ppl could not afford to take chances with any more price hike as that would have meant playing with starvation; 10. women voters were successfully convinced that BNP meant oppression on women; 11. The media which is ruled by Foortibaaj and Aamodi pro-Bollywood dedicated Amitabh loving reporters like Munni Shaha (who always talks for Hindu greats) ruled non-political channel news rooms like that of ATN and the so called cultural ppl are dying to have a amorous relationship with Indian medias to extend their workfield where Pakistan is a total failure; 12. Bangladesh is surrounded by Maoists and communists and Islam has been pocketed by idiots like JMBs and without true Islamic wise leaders - communism in the camouflage of secularism has taken root in newspapers; 13. Awami League banked on the issue of bringing the Jamaat leaders to war-tribunals when BNP owing to failure of its leaders (only Salauddin Qader recently accused Awami League of letting thousands of Pakistani soldiers leave the country without war compensations) could not successfully defend the issue with a counter challenge; 14. Hasina lobbied abroad (with kaaney betha issue) to win international support for Awami League when BNP concentrated on domestic support only. Hence, I and many like me are not shocked or surprised at all at Awami League's win and I am sure the readers do recall I DID forecast this scenario even in this ALOCHONA online many months ago. I NOW forecast that Awami League will become a good ruler as they may not act like BNP idiots but they will soon find out that Bangladeshi ppl are pro-Islamic when they will start enacting anti-Islamic India loving enactments and this will give rise to a wise and revolutionary Islamic power in Bangladesh with BNP at the helm. Sincerely, Mufassil IslamHuman Rights Advocate
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.comFrom: mkra12@...: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:20:44 -0500Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory
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> The extraordinary support for AWL is definitely a mandate for change in the affairs of the country.That change is not some quantitative change here & there but fundamental change in the system of governance in the country. After all, they have the two third majority.Can Sheikh Hasina & Awami League deliver that change?Can she liberate the country's folk from the yokes of colonial bureaucratic system of governance?After everything settles down and the elected government begins functioning. The country will go back to the age old colonial system of governance,despite the overwhelming participation of the nation in the election. From the Secreteriate to the Mahakuma offices, it's the non elected, non answerable bureaucrats who will be the supreme rulers of the day to day affairs of the country. The Minister is not the executive head of the Ministry but the Secretery. Ministers orders cannot be issued as Government orders unless approved by the Secretary. The scenario at the districts, Upozilla's, Cities & Mahakuma's are more bleak. There is zero representation of the public in the governance of those levels.The notorious system that was devised by the colonial rulers to keep us under subjugation by our own people continues to this day, despite two independences. Hope her Government will hand over the total administration of the Upozillas to the elected chairman & council members.She will face a lot of resistance from the bureaucracy by way of government rules & regulations but she has the backing of the vast majority as well as the two third majority to do and undo anything in the greater interest of the nation. All administrative powers which are excercised by the bureaucrats at those levels should be vested in the elected chairman & council of representatives. This will empower the Upozilla people to be their own rulers.They will truly be independent. Until & unless we establish Democracy,self rule at the grassroot levels Democracy will not have its foundation.Opinions of the majority of citizens, their hopes & aspirations, likings ,dislikings will not be expressed in the affairs of the country, nor their support be of any strength to the elected government.
> The handful of elected ministers at the center will be cut off from the people by way of the clandestine bureaucracy. Its imperative that we have elected local government.at the varios administrative levels;bureaucrats at these levels should be answerable to the elected local body.The vast majority of Bangladeshi' s has shown the keen judgement of right & wrong by routing out the parties of anti liberation past & fundamentalist in nature.They also opted for the less corrupt of the two parties.
> Is it too much to ask that these good majority will be allowed to be their own rulers?
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RE: [ALOCHONA] hindus in Bdesh

Mr Maqsud,
Why you too much concern about hindus in Bdesh? To support your statement,you gave some example which is totally wrong.

Look at how many christian people are living in Bdesh.If a christian student get 3rd division in SSC, they can get admission in Notardame College
Hollyfamily college etc. A christian parents is not scare of his child admission in a good school.There are a lots of good school,where have christian cota.
In western multinational companies,embassy bank a lots of christian people working.Compare with Christian minority and Hindus minority.Is there any cota in DU or DMC for Hindus like Christian or Tribal students?

Earlier there was a lots of Hindu educational institute,like as Jogannath College,Horoganga College,Modon Mohan College etc.How many hindu student are getting chance there? Is there any cota for hindu students?
 
I don't understand what kind of experiance you have got? If hindu people are safe in Bdesh,tell me what happend in 2001? About 90,000 hindu people has migrant to india from there independent motherland in 2001.Why ???????????????????
 
You guy always say something against india. We are not concern about indian own problem."Tumi odhom tai bolia ami uttom hoibo na"? BNP Jamat has killed 50,000 people after pro election violance in 2001. So Awami League should do the same now? What we can do in Palestian's crisis? So forget what are happing in India or Paleistain, Lets think about Bdesh. Help Sheikh Hasina to built a happy and satisfied equal rights Sonar Bangladesh.

 
Kind Regards
 
J.A.Chowdhury
 
 
 
 



To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: maqsudo@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:03:22 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] hindus in Bdesh


hindus in Bdesh
---------------

I get very annoyed/ frustrated , when people make unreasonable comments about situation with Bdeshis, from hindu and minority background.

In asian countries, minorities always suffer in different form and shape, from time to time.
Mainly because of political exploitation, lack of education, Negative human qualities and poverty.

Can we re-explore an old and tuff Q?...Are hindus in Bdesh , not in a better situation....than
Muslims in India?

I dont have stats..infront of me...to support my statements....but don't you think....that hindus get much better
educational, health, job, safety, social opportunities in Bdesh...than muslima in India?

Look at our universities, medical college, govt. and NGOs.....dont you see plenty of well-placed
people , from hindu background.

And the worse experience in my life? A bunch of Bdeshis muslims...claim themselves to be
super-intellectual, are always ready to protest about misfortune of hindus in Bdesh.
You will never see....them...talking about situation with muslims in India.
What kind of attitude/ neutrality is that?

I will always expect...that we will continue to work hard...so that our minority population ..in Bdesh...
feel safe, happy and satisfied ..as Bdeshi... with equal rights.

Best wishes

Khoda hafez.

dr. maqsud omar










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In case you missed it...

Thanks to the more than 2800 people who signed it and over 1,200 who contributed, our ad calling for a cease-fire (and an international conference to pressure both side to create the conditions for a lasting peace) appeared in the NY Times today, page 17.

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Cease Fire Now in Gaza!
President-elect Obama:

It's Time to End the Violence in the Middle East-Once and for All

Convene an International Middle East Peace Conference to facilitate a lasting and just settlement for all parties.
The world's attention is focused on the Middle East for a fleeting moment. Let's seize this opportunity to insist on an end to this struggle in all its dimensions.

A Call for Lasting Peace
President-elect Obama: When you become president, please call for an immediate CEASE-FIRE in GAZA and for an International Peace Conference to implement a fair and lasting solution to all aspects of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The solution must also address the conflict between Israel and other states in the region. The international community must stop the violence and terror against Israeli civilians and against Palestinian civilians in Gaza and the West Bank. The international community must also stop the hidden but persistent violence of the Occupation itself.
Such a solution would be based on the following conditions:
a.    The creation of an economically and politically viable Palestinian state (roughly on the pre-1967 borders, with minor border modifications mutually agreed upon between Israel and Palestine).
b.    The withdrawal of Israel from the Golan Heights, and simultaneously the full and unequivocal recognition by Palestinians and the State of Palestine and all surrounding Arab states of Israel's right to exist. Meanwhile Israel must offer full and equal rights to all of its non-Jewish citizens. Preferential treatment for Jews should exist only with regard to immigration, and that must be phased out when anti-Semitism in the world has disappeared. The same preferential treatment for Palestinians should exist in the Palestinian state as long as they face discrimination, reduced rights, or threats to their safety in other parts of the world.
c.    The creation of an international consortium to provide generous reparations for Palestinians who have lost homes or property from 1947 to the present, and generous reparations for Jewish refugees from Arab states from 1947 to 1967.
d.    The deployment of a long-term international peacekeeping force to separate Hezbollah and Israel in southern Lebanon and northern Israel, to ensure demilitarization of the Golan Heights, to protect Israel and Palestine from each other, to police the borders and the corridor that will need to be established linking Gaza with the West Bank, and to protect both Israel and Palestine from other forces in the region that might seek to control or destroy either state. In addition, treaty agreements must be made with the United States and other Western states to protect both Israel and Palestine from any assault by other countries (e.g. Iran, Pakistan, China, or Russia).
e.    The quick imposition of robust sanctions against any party that refuses to sign or that violates these agreements.

It would be in the interests of Israel, the Palestinians, the Arab states, the Jewish people, the United States, and the world if this solution could be imposed on the parties now. It breaks our hearts to see the suffering of the Israeli people, the Palestinian people, the Lebanese people, and others in the region when we know how unnecessary it is. The basic issues can be resolved. No matter how maximalist the fantasies are on each side about eliminating their perceived enemies, and how enticing they seem when people feel powerless in any other way to stop the violence and oppression, the truth is that the majority of the people on all sides of the struggle would embrace peace if they thought it could be established in ways that provided for genuine security from military assault and terrorism for everyone, real justice for Palestinians, and acknowledgment of the wrongs that have been done to each side as a first step in healing the humiliations and huge psychic wounds suffered by Arabs and Jews throughout their histories.

A New Spirit of Openheartedness and Reconciliation
We know that no political solution can work without a change in consciousness that minimally includes an openheartedness and willingness to recognize the humanity of the other, as well as repentance and atonement for the long history of insensitivity and cruelty each side has shown toward the other side.
All sides must take immediate steps to stop the discourse of violence. Members of each side must stop the demeaning of the other in their media, their religious institutions, and their school textbooks and educational systems. They should implement this by creating a joint authority with each other and with moral leaders in the international community. The joint authority must be able to supervise and, if necessary, replace those in positions of power in Jewish, Islamic, and Arab societies who continue to use the public institutions of the society to spread hatred or nurture anger at the other.
Once the other parts of a lasting peace have been set in place, we call upon the parties to this struggle to launch a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, following the model used in South Africa.

We Affirm the Sacredness of All Human Beings
President Obama, your presidency might well be the last chance we in the advanced industrial societies have to avert international catastrophe (either environmental or nuclear). To do so, our way of dealing with the world must model something else besides brute military might, economic self-interest, and indifference to the well-being of others. If not now, when?
It is time to overcome national chauvinism and arrogance. Instead we must build ethical and spiritual solidarity among the people of the world. Our well-being depends on the well-being of everyone else on the planet. So we need to build and strengthen those international institutions that can foster this sense of solidarity, which is the necessary foundation for global peace, social and economic justice, and ecological repair of the planet.

A Domestic and Global Marshall Plan-Starting with Israel/Palestine
The self-described "realistic" version of global politics asserts that we live in a world in which our safety can only be achieved through domination because others are always seeking to dominate us first. Of course, when we act on this assumption, it becomes self-fulfilling.
We propose, instead, a strategy of generosity-to act on the assumption that people have an enormous capacity for goodness and generosity (without negating the truth that certain conditions promote fear, anger, and hatred, which sometimes are expressed in horribly destructive ways). For the United States and other G-8 countries, we call for a domestic and global Marshall Plan: for each of the next twenty years, the United States and other G-8 countries should dedicate between 1 percent and 2 percent of their Gross Domestic Product to eliminating hunger, homelessness, poverty, inadequate health care, and inadequate education both at home and around the world, to be paid for by a tax on international financial transactions and a reduction in the military budgets of these countries. We've developed the details of a domestic and global Marshall Plan at www.spiritualprogressives.org.
If done in a way that emphasizes caring and solidarity, and not just the money, this strategy of generosity can help heal the angers and feelings of humiliation and abandonment that have been part of the psychological legacy that has made it easier for haters to recruit people into acts of terror or into extremist and fundamentalist consciousness. Just as a domestic Marshall Plan will help build a new sense of solidarity and hope in our country, so a global plan beginning in the Middle East (a plan that you, President Obama, introduce as part of the International Peace Conference) would reduce tensions there, not only by reducing physical suffering, but also by showing the people of the area, as well as people around the world, that selfishness is finally being challenged by a spirit of love and caring.
Israel's security would be greatly enhanced if the money spent on enforcing an occupation and protecting West Bank settlements went instead toward building a prosperous Palestinian economy. The "cynical realists" claim that others are entrenched in their hatefulness, and that war is the only way to confront them. This kind of thinking has led to 5,000 years of people fighting wars in order to "end all wars"-and it has not worked. It's time now to try a new strategy of generosity, both economic generosity and generosity of spirit. As stated above, there will first have to be a transitional period in which real military protections are available to people on all sides of the struggle. But by beginning now to simultaneously commit our economic resources and change the way that we talk about those whom we previously designated as "enemies," we can begin the long process of thawing out angers that have existed for many generations. Precisely at this moment, when our global economic meltdown requires a fundamental rethinking of how we've organized our global economy, we can now shift the funds from military spending and other wasteful production toward building a sustainable global reality. You, President Obama, could be the leader who teaches Americans this new way to understand America's self-interest.
Nothing can redeem the deaths and suffering that all sides have faced in this struggle for the past 120 years. But this very moment could also be the time in which the human race realizes the futility of violence and comes together not only to impose a lasting solution for the Middle East, but also to recognize that our own well-being depends on the well-being of everyone else on the planet. The International Middle East Peace Conference should be structured to achieve this end. In short, it should have an explicit psychological and spiritual dimension and a visionary agenda.
Unrealistic? Not at all. What has proved unrealistic time and again-whether we are talking about U.S. policy in Vietnam and Iraq, or Israeli and Arab policies in the Middle East-is the fantasy that one more war will put an end to wars. The path to peace must be a path of peace.

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Rabbi Michael Lerner, Sister Joan Chittister, and Professor Cornel West,
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Re: [ALOCHONA] BAKSAL - Look Busy!!

Not to get into the constitutional debate over Jamaat's right to do politics in a secular nation, I am always puzzled whenever I read about Zia's grandeur and his work on "upholding democracy". What democracy? NO ONE has done more harm to our democracy than Zia and his so-called principles.
 
I am equally flabbergasted when I read AL supporters giving Bongobondhu a god-like stature and making him to be the best statesman that had ever lived. Let's not forget that Bongobondhu's hubris, his inability to control his renegade cabinet, his one-party stronghold, and his indemnity of Jamaat et. al. That was the beginning of the end of our prosperity.
 
I should stop. It's too early in the day to get upset.
 
C


From: mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:01:16 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] BAKSAL - Look Busy!!

Dear Readers,
 
I am against Awami League as always. I am against last rule of BNP. I am against Jamaat. I am in support of Jamaat's right to do politics. I am a great fan of Zia as he went above puny self-indignations and upheld democracy crushing the socio-Communists forces of Col. Taher. I am in support of a ideal Muslim state which will treat all its citizens equally. I am against Che Guevera's gurilla type coupe. I am against George W Bish's terrorism. I am against killing of annocent lives. I am against politics of sheer revenge. I am against killing of Sheikh Russel. I am against Mujib and Zia's killings. I do support the view that ppl of Bangladesh witnessed the failure of Mujib as a stateman and I am of the view that Mujib was a Fidel Castro or Mugabe in the making. I am against hanging of the Mujib killers as I think that was an obvious outcome of Mujib's failures and a cry for freedom against a despot. I believe Mujib was a great revolutionary leader but the worst statesman as well. I believe Ershad did a lot of good works but he is the worst face of a characterless dictator. I am against BAKSAL and against Mukti Bahini's killing of the children of the Rajakars. I believe Bangladesh constitution is being thrown back to 1972 as Indemnity Bill cannot be revoked by any other means as unconstitutional. BAKSAL is coming. Look busy!!!!!!
 
Welcome to view:
 
http://uk.youtube. com/watch? v=tJBwTOE_ i_k
 
http://uk.youtube. com/watch? v=Di6ya1vy9DE&feature=related
 
http://uk.youtube. com/watch? v=iiWlsOnzhtM
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate
 
 


 



To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: kareem871@hotmail. com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:20:50 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League- Hindus India connections


 
Did it ever cross your mind that a Hindu has exactly the same God-given right to stay in Bangladesh that you and I have?
They have lived here for generations, in some cases for centuries and yet you accuse them of having a second homeland in India.
 
Should that not tell you that they are discriminated against in this land. No one leaves his home and hearth of his own sweet will and if some of them have been forced to migrate that speaaks bad of us for not giving them their due rights.
 
Let us not think of people as Hindus or Muslims but as human beings, who all deserve to be treated fairly and with respect.
 
Thanks,


To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: haquetm83@yahoo. com
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:08:24 -0800
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League- Hindus India connections

Subject has changed from price drop to elite hindus- I hate to base my judgment on communal or racial ground though, please read the following -
 
When I need to raise an issue favouring a Bihari, first question comes, is he going to stay here (in Bangladesh) answer is 'very doubtful' or 'No'.
I ask the question for Hindus in my area, is he trying to migrate or he has relatives there (in India)
 
Both of these question have same outcome - there link and base mostly is not here.
 
-   I heard this story from a friend who says he witnessed himself - the daughter of a BNP's hindu leader saying to her father - amader Kolkata....
 
-   In a small town a goldsmith familly lived for few generations, recently they were three  brothers, these days they are only two engaged in the same profession in the anchestor's land. All their earnings were siphoned out and with that the other brother got settled in India and still get financed from the remaining two brothers here, who still live in a same small old house.
 
-  If you go to my home town(mostly a common scenario) many big cloth merchants, cereal stockists, sweat meat shops owned by the hindus (marwaries). Over the years they expanded on their stocks only but the shop building or their own houses are still what their parents used to live. Where do their profit goes, why don't they build their homes, buy cars? If you go deep you will see - 'amader kolkatai' gese shob.
 
-   Around my village those who have government jobs they still live here and maintain their houses, others on the move.  
 
-   Biharies who own big shops in Nowabpur or elsewhere, you can find same like hindus they have their strong connection and link with Pakistan.
When it may be true that they have their reason to have strong link with thier cherished land but upto what extents can Bangladesh economy and its political science accepts their actions in the society?
 
Do not judge under North American or European context, however they already have problem with the migrants and their strong mechanism can control things in greater extent.
 
 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 12:12 PM

 is worth a look..
 
http://www.allbusin ess.com/governme nt/international -organizations- bodies/7850921- 1.html
 
Nevertheless, the issue is Bangladeshi Hindu citizens who were victims of atrocities or are in fear of their safety and security have been either holding or are trying to hold Indian passporrts since early 1990s.
 
Mufassil Islam




To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: rkhundkar@earthlink .net
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:41:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League


Who are these Hindu elite? <----Please let us know, How do you know? Provide sources and information that can be independentaly corroborated and audited.
India does not allow dual citizenship for any country.

Where are you getting your information on muslims from West Bengal, i.e choked with communism <----it seems you are fantascist with third rate information

-----Original Message-----
From: habib rashid
Sent: Jan 9, 2009 11:25 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League

Dear Mr. Islam,
 
I protest your comments on the dual citzenship of our Hindu people. If some of us feel proud keeping the citizenship of UK, USA, Canada or any EU countries then what is wrong with Hindu people?
 
I am not sure if you have dual citizenship or not. Please try to avoid general comments without knowing the full scenerio.
 
- Habib

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail. com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 7:07 AM

Dear Readers,
 
The fact is, during Awami League rule, our love affair with India grows stronger. I bet 100% that most of the Hindu elites of the country has had strong ties with West Bengal as they have family ties there and some even have based their businesses there. I am aware of many who even hold dual Indian and Bangladeshi passports and it is true as well that BNP-Jamaat alliances have not done anything to ensure security of the minority during their rule which resulted in oppressions on them by religious fanatics inmbubed with political motives. But this is nothing compared to atrocities on Muslims in India. West Bengal has systematically choked Islam there in the name of Communism. The temples still allows loud kirtons when Azan is banned. Even though Aazan with loud speakers has nothing to do with Islam. Awami League is a wing of Indian Congress and ppl who have eiwther no experience of their rule or ppl who have been following Awami League owing to their devotion to Mujib often fail to realise that. I am not against good relationship with India but I cannot sing the song of romance when I see India does not compromise with its unfair trade-balance with us. The cross border security is relaxed and smuggled Indian items flood the country at a cheaper rate ruining the local producers. If anyone does a research on the regular items it becomes obvious that mainly Indian items have flooded the country pushing the supply UP and prices DOWN and we will easily see that the country gets flooded with black money which will definitely give rise to criminal activities in the society. We buy our rice at the cost of our personal security. There is no other explanation of dropping the price so fast. Imagine!
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate



To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: kareem871@hotmail. com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:15:31 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory

What a shallow analysis of BNP's election debacle.
 
Keep it up and BNP will cease to exist - Inshallah.
 
NB: As an aside, as one who claims to be a human rights advocate your reference to Munni Saha was irreverent and absolutely unnecessary.
Likewise, if you expect to be taken seriously, you must stick to your analysis professionally without making crude remarks like Jalil being a drunkard.





To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mufassili@hotmail. com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:05:21 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory

Dear Readers,
 
The equation is very simple. The factors that played into Awami League's victory:
 
1. Awami League and BNP are originally almost at par with their number of supporters. Awami league's regular supporters did vote for Awami League as usual and they had no reason to love BNP - so Awami League grabbed the regular devoted votes;
 
2. The Swing Voters wanted to teach BNP a lesson for their corruption and had no other alternative than Mohajot as voting for BNP would have justified Tarek's corrupt practice - so they voted for alternative - ie., Awami League - having no other alternative;
 
3. The BNP supporters or activists were divided as to pro-change and anti-change groups, the defelctors like Bodrudouza and Oli gave reasons to the exploiters and anti-BNP lobbies reason to ponder upon BNP's coordination and disciplined approach;
 
4. BNP stalwarts or the pivotal leaders were kept behind the bars until the last few days on very simple cases which were easily bailable when Awami League had almost all their pivotal figures out of jail all the time (well even drunkard Jalil was out of jail);
 
5. Awami League had always supported the caretaker Govt and had promised to legalise their unconstitutional (although I think constitution itself has become a laugh) works if voted to power;
 
6. Hasina had a few anti-Jamaati Islamic groups in her pocket which got the votes of anti-Jamaati pro-Islamic ppl on their side and Hasian promised not to enact any anti-Islamic laws;
 
7. Ershad commands a few BNP votes as well owing to his military past;
 
8. New generation of voters did not have the experience of seeing Awami League's rule as adults rather they saw the corrupt rule of Tarek which made them anti-BNP and they read Awami League made ppl drink 'Vaater Fan' in drains from adults like us and they were too young to understand that Awami League always failed to control crime;
 
9. Awami League is better in price control when BNP is not good at that and owing to present price hike - ppl could not afford to take chances with any more price hike as that would have meant playing with starvation;
 
10. women voters were successfully convinced that BNP meant oppression on women;
 
11. The media which is ruled by Foortibaaj and Aamodi pro-Bollywood dedicated Amitabh loving reporters like Munni Shaha (who always talks for Hindu greats) ruled non-political channel news rooms like that of ATN and the so called cultural ppl are dying to have a amorous relationship with Indian medias to extend their workfield where Pakistan is a total failure;
 
12. Bangladesh is surrounded by Maoists and communists and Islam has been pocketed by idiots like JMBs and without true Islamic wise leaders - communism in the camouflage of secularism has taken root in newspapers;
 
13. Awami League banked on the issue of bringing the Jamaat leaders to war-tribunals when BNP owing to failure of its leaders (only Salauddin Qader recently accused Awami League of letting thousands of Pakistani soldiers leave the country without war compensations) could not successfully defend the issue with a counter challenge;
 
14. Hasina lobbied abroad (with kaaney betha issue) to win international support for Awami League when BNP concentrated on domestic support only.
 
Hence, I and many like me are not shocked or surprised at all at Awami League's win and I am sure the readers do recall I DID forecast this scenario even in this ALOCHONA online many months ago.
 
I NOW forecast that Awami League will become a good ruler as they may not act like BNP idiots but they will soon find out that Bangladeshi ppl are pro-Islamic when they will start enacting anti-Islamic India loving enactments and this will give rise to a wise and revolutionary Islamic power in Bangladesh with BNP at the helm.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate


To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mkra12@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:20:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory


The extraordinary support for AWL is definitely a mandate for change in the affairs of the country.
That change is not some quantitative change here & there  but fundamental change in the system of governance in the country. After all, they have the two third majority.
Can Sheikh Hasina & Awami League deliver that change?Can she liberate the country's folk from the yokes of colonial bureaucratic system of governance?
After everything settles down and the elected government begins functioning. The country will go back to the age old colonial system of governance,despite the overwhelming participation of the nation in the election.
From the Secreteriate to the Mahakuma offices, it's the non elected, non answerable bureaucrats who will be the supreme rulers of the day to day affairs of the country. The Minister is not the executive head of the Ministry but the Secretery. Ministers orders cannot be issued as Government orders unless approved by the Secretary. The scenario at the districts, Upozilla's, Cities & Mahakuma's are more bleak. There is zero representation of the public in the governance of those levels.
The notorious system that was devised by the colonial rulers to keep us under subjugation by our own people continues to this day, despite two independences.
   Hope her Government will  hand over the total administration of the Upozillas to the elected chairman & council members.She will face a lot of resistance from the bureaucracy by way of government rules & regulations but she has the backing of the vast majority as well as the two third majority to do and undo anything in the greater interest of the nation. All administrative powers which are excercised by the bureaucrats at those levels should be vested in the elected chairman & council of representatives. This will empower the Upozilla people to be their own rulers.They will truly be independent.
   Until & unless we establish Democracy,self rule at the grassroot levels Democracy will not have its foundation.Opinions of the majority  of citizens, their hopes & aspirations, likings ,dislikings will not be expressed in the affairs of the country, nor their support be of any strength to the elected government.
The handful of elected ministers at the center will be cut off from the people by way of the clandestine bureaucracy. Its imperative that we have elected local government.at the varios administrative levels;bureaucrats at these levels should be answerable to the elected local body.
The vast majority of Bangladeshi' s has shown the keen judgement of right & wrong by routing out the parties of anti liberation past & fundamentalist in nature.They also opted for the less corrupt of the two parties.
Is it too much to ask that these good majority will be allowed to be their own rulers?
 
Mizad









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Re: [ALOCHONA] hindus in Bdesh

Sir, why is it that one has to care separately for the Hindus and Muslims in Bangladesh? Why do I need to worry about the Muslims in India, or anywhere else? Should we not just worry about Bangladeshis, regardless of their religious background?
 
I am afraid, you are mistaken to assume that the minorities in BD are better off than the minorities in India. It is not a matter of comparison. Even if Muslims and other minorities in India are better treated, that has absolutely nothing to do with how we, as a nation treat our own sons and daughters, whether they are Hindu, Buddhist, Christian or of any faith. The advancement of ethnic minorities in Bangladesh was promoted through a "quota system" for the longest period, and any social scientist will tell you that a "quota system" can never establish a sense of equality in the society.
 
Minorities are still scapegoats in many aspects of our society, and I still keep reading comments from idiotic and communal "intellectuals" about how Hindus in BD have more loyalty towards Calcutta than Dhaka. There is a sense of distrust, that is promoted by the "merchants of Islam", who bank on hatred and mistrust of the minorities. At the same time, I know hundreds of Hindu families who would never leave their home in BD. I also have met hundreds of Hindus in Calcutta and elsewhere, whose parents or grandparents were from BD, and they still long for returning to their homeland someday. BD is in their hearts, and that is their motherland. Of course, not everyone thinks this way. There are some who want nothing to do with BD, but that's understandable.
 
The "super-intellectual" Bangladeshis, whom you obviously despise, probably don't see themselves as Muslims or Hindus first. They probably see themselves as proud Bangladeshis, and that's why they are neutral to the idea of race and religion. They are not proud "Indians", but very proud Bangladeshis. Indian Muslims are India's problem, not ours. 
 
Cyrus 
 
 


From: maqsud omaba <maqsudo@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:03:22 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] hindus in Bdesh


hindus in Bdesh
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I get very annoyed/ frustrated , when people make unreasonable comments about situation with Bdeshis, from hindu and minority background.

In asian countries, minorities always suffer in different form and shape, from time to time.
Mainly because of political exploitation, lack of education, Negative human qualities and poverty.

Can we re-explore an old and tuff Q?...Are hindus in Bdesh , not in a better situation... .than
Muslims in India?

I dont have stats..infront of me...to support my statements.. ..but don't you think....that hindus get much better
educational, health, job, safety, social opportunities in Bdesh...than muslima in India?

Look at our universities, medical college, govt. and NGOs.....dont you see plenty of well-placed
people , from hindu background.

And the worse experience in my life? A bunch of Bdeshis muslims...claim themselves to be
super-intellectual, are always ready to protest about misfortune of hindus in Bdesh.
You will never see....them. ..talking about situation with muslims in India.
What kind of attitude/ neutrality is that?

I will always expect...that we will continue to work hard...so that our minority population ..in Bdesh...
feel safe, happy and satisfied ..as Bdeshi... with equal rights.

Best wishes

Khoda hafez.

dr. maqsud omar









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