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RE: [mukto-mona] Now that President Bush’s Tenure is Over

    Nripendra Sarkar's admiration for George W. Bush's wisdom is very touching.
 
     If this is any solace, think of it in this way: President Obama is, after all, a Black man, and these lowly, less-than-human creatures are like the lowly shudra castes, or the lowly muslims, good only for cleaning up the s--t the White men leave behind.
      
       The magazine, "Onion"" has already remarked that Obama has got the worst job in the nation. Serves a Black man just right!

       I wonder why you share your liking for Bush with Osama bin Laden and Ayan al Zawahiri ? You must also be applauding the Bush administration's sponsorship of the BD Jamaatis as the "moderate" Islamic group fit to be a political party in a democracy.
 
         



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From: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:07:37 -0800
Subject: [mukto-mona] Now that President Bush's Tenure is Over


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RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak

Saying YES to India?  Are you looking for some examples

Just look at what happened to the following countries

Ø  Afghanistan

Ø  Iraq and

Ø  Pakistan

 

There is an old Bengal saying:

Boshte dile shuite chai (If you let them sit, they’ll ask if they can sleep!)

 

And what will you lose?

 

First your identity

Next your sovereignty

Then your culture

Then your virginity

 

That’s all!

 

Nurul Hossain

USA

From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J.A. Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:01 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak

 


If we say YES, what will we lose?


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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:06:43 -0800
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak



--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Say No to Joint Military Operation.
Say No to unequal treaties.
Say No to hegemonic conspiracies.
Say No to the schemes of subjugating Bangladesh.
 
Forwarding to you the following report:
--------------------------------------------------
 

Dhaka-Delhi anti-terror panel a possibility: Pinak

 

 

Indian high commissioner Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty on Wednesday said Bangladesh and India might form a new platform to fight terrorism and insurgency across the two countries.

The envoy said the formation of the forum could be discussed during the two-day visit of Indian external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, from Feb. 8, to Bangladesh.

He said Bangladesh and India were expected to sign a new deal on protection and promotion of investments in both countries.

"A new body could be formed that will deal exclusively with the issue of terrorism, insurgency, cross-border crime and so on," Chakravarty told bdnews24.com after his first call on new foreign minister Dipu Moni on Wednesday.

He went to the foreign ministry to discuss the Pranab's upcoming two-day visit.

They also talked about the possibility of the new regional panel or taskforce as was outlined by Awami League in its election manifesto.

The high commissioner said Pranab's priority issues would be some security issues.

"Priority issues immediately would be to deal with certain security issues which I think has been articulated in terms of greater cooperation on security issues.

"(We have to work) so that we can jointly tackle some of the problems of terrorism, the insurgent groups and other wanted people fleeing across the border taking refuge either here or there," he said.

Chakravarty said the bilateral trade treaty, which was renewed after every three years, would be signed during Pranab's visit.

"The other (trade agreement) is a new one which is almost ready to be signed. It is called bilateral investment protection and promotion agreement," he said.

Defending the agreement, the high commissioner said India's investment in Bangladesh and Bangladeshi businessmen money in India must be protected.

He said the two foreign minist e rs would discuss trade facilitation for reducing the huge trade imbalance.

He stressed the need for building infrastructure along the borders for facilitating trades.

On signing extradition treaty, Chakravarty said, "Extradition treaty is there. But we are not saying this has to be done tomorrow. I think it requires more work."

He said Bangladesh should immediately send a delegation to New Delhi for talks on maritime delimitation as India must submit its claims on sea boundary to the UN by June this year.

bdnews24.com/krc/rah/bd/1958h.


 

 


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RE: [ALOCHONA] What is your advice to Sheikh Hasina ?

I have a few advice for Hasina:

 

1.       Please stop killing, maiming and up-rooting your political opponents and adversaries; the tide of time will turn before you know it.

2.       You are a public servant, the public  is not your servant, and you have been elected to serve the public; not your friends, cronies and relatives.

3.       Forgiveness is a greater virtue  than revenge

4.       Don’t mix business and pleasure – this can get you in a lot of trouble fast

5.       Keep your election promises as much as the available resources permit

6.      You are not so important that you have to win every argument. Agree to
disagree.

The last one is the most important advice.

 

That’s all folks!

 

Nurul Hossain

USA

 

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Subject: [ALOCHONA] What is your advice to Sheikh Hasina ?

 


  What is your advice to Sheikh Hasina ?

 

Your points will be placed to sheikh hasina .

 

thanking you

 

Habib

 

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RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak

     Say NO to postings from a certain Zaglul who is not a member of ALOCHONA.
 
    His writings have no value other than raising hoary communal hatreds and fears that are detrimental to a progtessive society.
 
          Farida Majid




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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:00:52 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak



If we say YES, what will we lose?

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From: bd_mailer@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:06:43 -0800
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak



--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Say No to Joint Military Operation.
Say No to unequal treaties.
Say No to hegemonic conspiracies.
Say No to the schemes of subjugating Bangladesh.
 
Forwarding to you the following report:
--------------------------------------------------
 
Dhaka-Delhi anti-terror panel a possibility: Pinak
 
 
Indian high commissioner Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty on Wednesday said Bangladesh and India might form a new platform to fight terrorism and insurgency across the two countries.

The envoy said the formation of the forum could be discussed during the two-day visit of Indian external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, from Feb. 8, to Bangladesh.

He said Bangladesh and India were expected to sign a new deal on protection and promotion of investments in both countries.

"A new body could be formed that will deal exclusively with the issue of terrorism, insurgency, cross-border crime and so on," Chakravarty told bdnews24.com after his first call on new foreign minister Dipu Moni on Wednesday.

He went to the foreign ministry to discuss the Pranab's upcoming two-day visit.

They also talked about the possibility of the new regional panel or taskforce as was outlined by Awami League in its election manifesto.

The high commissioner said Pranab's priority issues would be some security issues.

"Priority issues immediately would be to deal with certain security issues which I think has been articulated in terms of greater cooperation on security issues.

"(We have to work) so that we can jointly tackle some of the problems of terrorism, the insurgent groups and other wanted people fleeing across the border taking refuge either here or there," he said.

Chakravarty said the bilateral trade treaty, which was renewed after every three years, would be signed during Pranab's visit.

"The other (trade agreement) is a new one which is almost ready to be signed. It is called bilateral investment protection and promotion agreement," he said.

Defending the agreement, the high commissioner said India's investment in Bangladesh and Bangladeshi businessmen money in India must be protected.

He said the two foreign ministers would discuss trade facilitation for reducing the huge trade imbalance.

He stressed the need for building infrastructure along the borders for facilitating trades.

On signing extradition treaty, Chakravarty said, "Extradition treaty is there. But we are not saying this has to be done tomorrow. I think it requires more work."

He said Bangladesh should immediately send a delegation to New Delhi for talks on maritime delimitation as India must submit its claims on sea boundary to the UN by June this year.

bdnews24.com/krc/rah/bd/1958h.

 


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Re: [ALOCHONA] Awami League's Rajakar Minister

Mr. Ramjan -
 
Keep on repeating your convoluted logic ................ you might start believing it someday,  I am sure you will find one or two believers in this forum as well. (was this a joke? may be I missed it!)
 
Actually there is a very positive underline in your convoluted logic below -- you do believe Razakars were wrong and criminals!
 
Thanks,
 
- mashuque


From: Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com>
To: group Alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:49:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Awami League's Rajakar Minister

Sheikh Muzib was proved himself as a great Razakar by taking oath as minister of Pakistan 1955. Sheikh Hasina recited at least 2000 times Pakistan Zindabad national anthem during her school life, proved herself also a great Razakar.
 
More precisely, Sheikh, Sayed, Mughol and Patan are none of original Bangladeshi.
 
So the above test proved sheikh Muzib was not a originally Bengali, how he became Banga Bhandu !!!!!!!!!!!wouk up man.
 
Thanks
 
Mohammed Ramjan
Kuwait
 


 



To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: haque@berlin. com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:04:59 -0200
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Awami League's Rajakar Minister


Refer to Mufassil Islam's mail:
Dear Reders,
It is absolutely absurd to think that a Human Rights Activist is confused to differentiate between a Communist Politician and a Rajakar Killer. It can only be a rajakar supporter who can write this kind of stupid comments. We are proud of that, New Bangladesh Parliament is free from Rajakar.
-M. Haque
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
Dear Readers,
 
If you had to click this letter as you were shocked at its caption, then my question is 'Why'? Why is it so surprising to even imagine that Awami League would allow a Rajakar to be amongst its chosen league of Ministers? An offshoot of Islami Oikko Jote is already with them. How many of the voters who voted for our new Education Minister knew that this man was a hard-bone Communist and a Chhatro Union activist during his earlier political life? During Hitler's time - Fascism was taught to the children and during Stalin's time - Russian Fascism was taught to the youth. Awami League is often blinded by Bengali Fascism and this Fascist idea leads to the issue of people of non-Bengali origin and their rights to be Bangladeshis even when they are not Bengalis. My good friend Dr. Ohiduzzaman Chand of Dhaka University had recently done a PhD on the issue and I am sure that he has a better response.
 
Nevertheless, as I had predicted in my earlier letter, Awami League has grounded footing of West Bengal style communism in Bangladesh with Mr. Menon and Mr. Inu and now with this Communist Education Minister (in the new camouflage of Awami League) - who I am sure will change the texts massively. If we feel butterflies in our tummies about a Fanatic Religious man as our Education Minister - then what about a Fanatic Communist? I am sure not many know about this man's political convictions and history. Did u know this reader?
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate


To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mufassili@hotmail. com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:39:51 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory

U simply have to prove me wrong with references. PLEASEprove me wrong and I will be happy to retract my comments.
 
In support of my references to Jalil:
 
He is stooping all the time and he has had been power blind always. Amassed enrmous wealth and formed a bank when he was a pauper only a few years ago. He was apparently grilled by Armed Forces and yet won his seat. He was side-lined by Hasina rightly. When he was asked about MPs procurement of vehciles at tax redemption by a TV journalist in UK - he lost his temper. Hmm...I wonder what sort of illness he has that kept on taking him to hospital all the time during his captive life with the Armed Forces. Hmm..I bet u know!
 
Munni Shaha? U simply need to make an equation of all the TV interviews she has recorded thus far which I have done. You need to watch her coverage of Avishek's wedding and her reactions to that. Well - pls DO get back to me with YOUR references. AWAMI League is an In dian enunch ( I am no BNP or Jamaat lover of present time) and YOU will soon find out. I don't know whether u have had first hand experience of their rule. Why prices come down and crime rate goes up? U need to do a research on cross border smuggling and the relevant criminal records pertaining from that. Well I have done that which many of the so called intellects willingly avoid to expose.
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate




To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: kareem871@hotmail. com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:15:31 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory


What a shallow analysis of BNP's election debacle.
 
Keep it up and BNP will cease to exist - Inshallah.
 
NB: As an aside, as one who claims to be a human rights advocate your reference to Munni Saha was irreverent and absolutely unnecessary.
Likewise, if you expect to be taken seriously, you must stick to your analysis professionally without making crude remarks like Jalil being a drunkard.





To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mufassili@hotmail. com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:05:21 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory

Dear Readers,
 
The equation is very simple. The factors that played into Awami League's victory:
 
1. Awami League and BNP are originally almost at par with their number of supporters. Awami league's regular supporters did vote for Awami League as usual and they had no reason to love BNP - so Awami League grabbed the regular devoted votes;
 
2. The Swing Voters wanted to teach BNP a lesson for their corruption and had no other alternative than Mohajot as voting for BNP would have justified Tarek's corrupt practice - so they voted for alternative - ie., Awami League - having no other alternative;
 
3. The BNP supporters or activists were divided as to pro-change and anti-change groups, the defelctors like Bodrudouza and Oli gave reasons to the exploiters and anti-BNP lobbies reason to ponder upon BNP's coordination and disciplined approach;
 
4. BNP stalwarts or the pivotal leaders were kept b ehind the bars until the last few days on very simple cases which were easily bailable when Awami League had almost all their pivotal figures out of jail all the time (well even drunkard Jalil was out of jail);
 
5. Awami League had always supported the caretaker Govt and had promised to legalise their unconstitutional (although I think constitution itself has become a laugh) works if voted to power;
 
6. Hasina had a few anti-Jamaati Islamic groups in her pocket which got the votes of anti-Jamaati pro-Islamic ppl on their side and Hasian promised not to enact any anti-Islamic laws;
 
7. Ershad commands a few BNP votes as well owing to his military past;
 
8. New generation of voters did not have the experience of seeing Awami League's rule as adults rather they saw the corrupt rule of Tarek which made them anti-BNP and they read Awami League made ppl drink 'Vaater Fan' in drains from adults like us and they were too young to under stand that Awami League always failed to control crime;
 
9. Awami League is better in price control when BNP is not good at that and owing to present price hike - ppl could not afford to take chances with any more price hike as that would have meant playing with starvation;
 
10. women voters were successfully convinced that BNP meant oppression on women;
 
11. The media which is ruled by Foortibaaj and Aamodi pro-Bollywood dedicated Amitabh loving reporters like Munni Shaha (who always talks for Hindu greats) ruled non-political channel news rooms like that of ATN and the so called cultural ppl are dying to have a amorous relationship with Indian medias to extend their workfield where Pakistan is a total failure;
 
12. Bangladesh is surrounded by Maoists and communists and Islam has been pocketed by idiots like JMBs and without true Islamic wise leaders - communism in the camouflage of secularism has taken root in newspapers;
 
13. Awami League banked on the issue of bringing the Jamaat leaders to war-tribunals when BNP owing to failure of its leaders (only Salauddin Qader recently accused Awami League of letting thousands of Pakistani soldiers leave the country without war compensations) could not successfully defend the issue with a counter challenge;
 
14. Hasina lobbied abroad (with kaaney betha issue) to win international support for Awami League when BNP concentrated on domestic support only.
 
Hence, I and many like me are not shocked or surprised at all at Awami League's win and I am sure the readers do recall I DID forecast this scenario even in this ALOCHONA online many months ago.
 
I NOW forecast that Awami League will become a good ruler as they may not act like BNP idiots but they will soon find out that Bangladeshi ppl are pro-Islamic when they will start enacting anti-Islamic India loving enactments and this will give rise to a wise and re volutionary Islamic power in Bangladesh with BNP at the helm.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate


To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mkra12@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:20:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory


The extraordinary support for AWL is definitely a mandate for change in the affairs of the country.
That change is not some quantitative change here & there  but fundamental change in the system of governance in the country. After all, they have the two third majority.
Can Sheikh Hasina & Awami League deliver that change?Can she liberate the country's folk from the yokes of colonial bureaucratic system of governance?
After everything settles down and the elected government begins functioning. The country will go back to the age old colonial system of governance,despite the overwhelming participation of the nation in the election.
From the Secreteriate to the Mahakuma offices, it's the non elected, non answerable bureaucrats who will be the supreme rulers of the day to day affairs of the country. The Minister is not the executive head of the Ministry but the Secretery. Ministers orders cannot be issued as Government orders unless a pproved by the Secretary. The scenario at the districts, Upozilla's, Cities & Mahakuma's are more bleak. There is zero representation of the public in the governance of those levels.
The notorious system that was devised by the colonial rulers to keep us under subjugation by our own people continues to this day, despite two independences.
   Hope her Government will  hand over the total administration of the Upozillas to the elected chairman & council members.She will face a lot of resistance from the bureaucracy by way of government rules & regulations but she has the backing of the vast majority as well as the two third majority to do and undo anything in the greater interest of the nation. All administrative powers which are excercised by the bureaucrats at those levels should be vested in the elected chairman & council of representatives. This will empower the Upozilla people to be their own rulers.They will truly be independent.
   Until & unless we establish Democracy,self rule at the grassroot levels Democracy will not have its foundation.Opinions of the majority  of citizens, their hopes & aspirations, likings ,dislikings will not be expressed in the affairs of the country, nor their support be of any strength to the elected government.
The handful of elected ministers at the center will be cut off from the people by way of the clandestine bureaucracy. Its imperative that we have elected local government.at the varios administrative levels;bureaucrats at these levels should be answerable to the elected local body.
The vast majority of Bangladeshi' s has shown the keen judgement of right & wrong by routing out the parties of anti liberation past & fundamentalist in nature.They also opted for the less corrupt of the two parties.
Is it too much to ask that these good majority will be allowed to be their own rulers?
 
Mizad








 


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[ALOCHONA] Terrorism and the Root Causes

Dear Friends:

 

Terrorism, while an old phenomenon, has taken new dimensions over the last 8 years or so.  Why suddenly, this surge of terroristic activities and how they can be addressed to be eradicated from our societies.  Not an easy task by any standards.

 

First, we need to agree that Extremism and Terrorism are not one and the same; while one responds with extreme measures in reaction to an event or an existing socio-economic or socio-political  situation or as a response to a direct measure of someone else that are often disproportionate to the existing or the applied force; the other however, spreads the senses of terror to induce fear among the general mass to attain certain pre-conceived response to an existing or introduced act of intervention.  There is a correlation between the two but one does not replace the other neither can one be super-imposed on the other.  With that definition in mind, I would start my analysis.

 

While it is true that personalities do come into play in the transformation of an individual to resort to extreme means or being able to spread terror, the psyche however has a more dominant role in that transformation.  There are two groups of people involved in the process in both cases.  First is a visionary, who understands the loopholes of the existing laws that govern our social and political architectures, our environment and the instruments available at our hand that can be skillfully applied to exploit the psyche of second Group.  The second Group, on the other hand, is the operatives and the instruments, which reacts in a way that satisfies the intellectual design of the first group.  In the cases of Extremist, the first Group can not be segmented out from the second.  In Terrorism however, these are two very distinct Groups of peoples playing two different roles. The people with extreme psyche can be exploited by the visionaries to serve their purpose and as such, extremists may unknowingly become part of a terror network.

 

Among the tools that are available to human beings, especially for the Visionaries, there is nothing more powerful than a religion to induce senses of common purpose among a synchronous and harmonious group of people, where a faith is at stake.  However, in Terrorism and Extremism, there are other tools as well that can be as lethal as religion.  Senses of Deprivation, Oppression and Injustice, are other lethal factors that can bee easily exploited by the visionaries to exert on their agendas.  Now if religion is compounded with the other three factors, one can imagine the force of cohesion it would produce.  Extremism is a response of an individual or a Group with no particular cohesion of a purpose but Terrorism does have a sense of purpose.

 

Now that we have defined the Terrorism and Extremism, I would focus on the Terrorism only in the rest of my article.  The emergence of terrorism has its roots in the sense of Ones feelings of being deprived of his/her rights and the failure of the establishments and existing laws to secure what is perceived to be his/her rightful place in the social architecture and hierarchy.  If someone or an Organized Group senses that discomfort among the general mass or a group of people, the Visionary would exploit those feelings to stream and guide them to a common purpose that is larger than all individuals.  That is the start of the phenomenon what we call in today's term Terrorism.  This is a broad definition and can be adapted to each and every act of terrorism as we perceive today around the globe.

 

Of all what we see today, each and every act of terrorism is somewhat linked to the roots of religion and specifically to Islam. It is however not the Moslems who categorize themselves as Terrorists but are branded by others as such.  If we look at the history: neither Lenin, nor Stalin, or Mao Tse Tung,  Che Guavera, Tikka Khan, Yahia Khan, Chengiz Khan  or even Hitler are branded as Terrorists although they had resorted to acts of terrorism in promoting their plans and programs.  May so be, who or what they were targeting to remove from the social architectures might have termed them as terrorists at the time but the outcome of the events have relieved them of the title.  One thing you would find common in most of those cases I have listed here, they were either successful in achieving what they set out for or were part of the establishment defending a cause of their own.  Religion was never a part of those, I have named in the list.  There might have been some but religion was never the main cause or the main motivation of their acts.  They might have had exploited religion (either for or against to advance their cause).

Coming back to our modern day terrorism and the roots thereof, we have to understand that the world is in a transitory stage right now looking for the right balance of power.  There is clearly a vacuum that needs to be filled and bridged for the natural phenomenon to take its roots.  With the collapse of the communism, the world is looking for an alternative that can fill that vacuum.  There are focuses on various systems at work that can effectively replace the communistic systems.  What we see today as the war of the civilizations is nothing more than the outcome of that focus.  Islam is under scrutiny, as one of the probable replacement for communism and as an alternative to the Capitalistic system being pursued by the West.  People are getting to learn the fundamentals of the religion and the code of its operations as not only a religious system but social and economic structures as well. 

 

It would not be too much for me to say that it is only at the start of its scrutiny that might take some 20 more years or so before a balancing system is enacted.  The push of the war of the civilizations was a measured one and was intended for the religious rights to push for their own brand of replacement for the communist systems.  The act of 9/11 was nothing more than part of that act and the war that followed, was an attempt to divide the globe based on religion with two distinct hemispheres with two distinct systems governing their political, economy and social systems.  The process however, had its first jolt with the election of Barack Obama, who came to power with a mission of change.  He had rightly understood the agenda of the religious right and offered an alternative to the mass in the US and around the world to halt the division of peoples on the basis of religion. "Fear" is the tool for Terrorism and that "Hope" has beaten "Fear" in the US squarely.  This is clearly a set back for those who induces "fear" into the hearts of the people to manage and rule them. It is also a setback for the people, who decided to use religion as a tool to divide humanity and use their own system to fill the vacuum.

 

Now, with Barack Obama in office and his plans for change to steer the economy clear of the doldrums and overhaul his healthcare and education systems, he still would need to find an alternative to his own brand of Capitalistic Society.  The laws of nature would never allow a mono-leithic society to rule the whole world.  Therefore, a second force and a second system have to emerge to keep the balance.  It is for us and our future generations to find out as to what that force is going to be.  The indications are quite clear that one of the religious forces would emerge as victorious at the end to replace the old communist systems.  The people who values morality as an integral part of the governance will tilt to one of the religions as an alternative that has a full system of socio political and economic governance.  Islam does seem to be a complete code of life and has an advantage over other religions in terms of its political clout and a financial system supporting the moral and political base.  If China, Russia, and some of the EU countries back one of the religions, then that is the solution and the alternative to the Capitalist system.  Islam along with some other religions is vying for that spot.  Islam is being radicalized by a segment that clearly understands the stakes at hand and is promoting their own agenda to get an upper hand within Islam so that if and when the opportunity arises, they would take control of the Islamic world. Islam does not yet have a single point of command as yet like that of the Catholics but the Shiaa sect of the Muslims would soon create one, as it seems from the new belt they have created that they can call a unified cell stretching from Iran and going all the way through the Middle East to North Africa and moving South to Asia.  While the Sunni Muslims are still vying for a brand of their own, they still lag behind their Shiaa brethren counterparts in creating a single point of command and control.  Current war with Hamas had given them a tremendous opportunity for fermenting one. Israel, on the other hand, knowingly or unknowingly has promoted the cause of the Shiaas and helped them emerge as a force to reckon with, which they have denied for the Sunni Muslims. Bush's era has made the Shiaas the single most beneficiary of his policies, knowingly or unknowingly, he has created the lethal most gifts to the Shiaas on a silver platter that will haunt the US and its allies for the generations to come.

 

Coming back to the holy war of the Muslims, It has been very clearly mentioned of the circumstances under which Islam can condone one.  A holy war is permitted only when they are attacked and their existence is in question.  The focus of Islamic Jihad has never been an offensive weapon.  The focus of Islamic Jihad is also directed to the self ill conceptions and ill intents to purify ones mind and body.  As I had mentioned earlier, that certain segment of the Western World, who understands the need for an alternative to their Capitalistic Society, are trying their best to put these forces into test by pressuring them and setting up for the grounds for confrontations.  They are providing every opportunity to the Muslims to find a rightful cause for them to wage a holy war.  Current push by the Israelis into Gaza was nothing more than forcing the Muslims to unite and wage a holy war against them and their allies namely the West.  Understanding the opportunity, people vying for that spot, has given the call for a holy war and sooner or later, a full fledged war is expected.

 

"Fear" is a powerful tool and People and leaders do take advantage of this powerful tool to rule and manage their own people at the expense of the negative impacts it has on the population in general.   In our societies, the mothers use this technique to feed their unwilling children to eat or the fathers use it to discipline their children so that they become attentive in schools and attend classes but the harm it inflicts on their mind is inconceivable.  At times the lines are crossed.  The lingering impact it has on the psyche is irreparable.  The young minds become resilient to reasons and become conflict prone.  The senses of negativity make them imparvient to reasons and make them impulsive and as a result develop an extreme psyche that dwells between the two extremes.  Their mind becomes emotional.  These adults become prey to the Visionaries, I have defined earlier.  These impulsive minds are them framed to commit the acts of violence that spread fear among the population for a purpose.  They become committed and loyal to the cause.

 

The second factor that turns people into terrorism is for economic reasons.  Economically deprived mass would very easily be recruited by the religious operatives.  Religion is a platform, where the economically disadvantaged people can easily take refuge and feel relieved. They turn to God for changing their economic dire situations.  The near to free healthcare, free food and charity becomes their lively hood and those acts are all managed by the organized religious groups.  These acts of charity and kindness turn them to a loyal and cohesive force that would be ready to sacrifice their lives for a cause that had made the social disparity in the first place.  The cumulative anger and stored frustration is the breeding ground for the onlookers to make their move and this is what becomes a breeding ground for the potential terror network to get started.  In conclusion, I would say that we directly or indirectly contribute to the process of developing the psyche of a future extremist or a terrorist and the opportunists with a plan and agenda takes advantage of them.

 

We can not solve this problem anytime soon until the economic and social deprivation our stamped out from our intelligent designs and a more equitable social architectures are put in place.  To be honest, the current upheavals, no matter where it stems from, the root causes are more economic than religion and religion has found an agenda and a just cause to thrive on. If the economic conditions and social justices are brought to bear, religions would not have that opportunity any more to bank on.

 

Kind regards,

 

Rial

 


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RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak


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Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Say No to Pinak



--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Say No to Joint Military Operation.
Say No to unequal treaties.
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Say No to the schemes of subjugating Bangladesh.
 
Forwarding to you the following report:
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Dhaka-Delhi anti-terror panel a possibility: Pinak
 
 
Indian high commissioner Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty on Wednesday said Bangladesh and India might form a new platform to fight terrorism and insurgency across the two countries.

The envoy said the formation of the forum could be discussed during the two-day visit of Indian external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, from Feb. 8, to Bangladesh.

He said Bangladesh and India were expected to sign a new deal on protection and promotion of investments in both countries.

"A new body could be formed that will deal exclusively with the issue of terrorism, insurgency, cross-border crime and so on," Chakravarty told bdnews24.com after his first call on new foreign minister Dipu Moni on Wednesday.

He went to the foreign ministry to discuss the Pranab's upcoming two-day visit.

They also talked about the possibility of the new regional panel or taskforce as was outlined by Awami League in its election manifesto.

The high commissioner said Pranab's priority issues would be some security issues.

"Priority issues immediately would be to deal with certain security issues which I think has been articulated in terms of greater cooperation on security issues.

"(We have to work) so that we can jointly tackle some of the problems of terrorism, the insurgent groups and other wanted people fleeing across the border taking refuge either here or there," he said.

Chakravarty said the bilateral trade treaty, which was renewed after every three years, would be signed during Pranab's visit.

"The other (trade agreement) is a new one which is almost ready to be signed. It is called bilateral investment protection and promotion agreement," he said.

Defending the agreement, the high commissioner said India's investment in Bangladesh and Bangladeshi businessmen money in India must be protected.

He said the two foreign ministers would discuss trade facilitation for reducing the huge trade imbalance.

He stressed the need for building infrastructure along the borders for facilitating trades.

On signing extradition treaty, Chakravarty said, "Extradition treaty is there. But we are not saying this has to be done tomorrow. I think it requires more work."

He said Bangladesh should immediately send a delegation to New Delhi for talks on maritime delimitation as India must submit its claims on sea boundary to the UN by June this year.

bdnews24.com/krc/rah/bd/1958h.

 


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