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[mukto-mona] Reply to "Why India Is Not A Secular Country -by Omar Khalidi"

A Reply to "Why India Is Not A Secular Country -by Omar Khalidi "
Conversion is the most heinous practice in our religions. Religion itself some time good if it is in the hand of good people and some time dangerous than nuclear bomb if misinterpreted and misunderstood by wrong people.We know there are merits and demerits of every thing. This includes Conversion too.Excessive human right has also demerits and the demerit of excessive human right is conversion. Conversion some time generates separatist mentality and the hating libido to other religion. The greed to covert one person from one faith to other faith is an expression of aggression. Sinners are they who inspired people to convert.All religions allow conversion to increase their man power which is a big power and a power to rule over others.Is religion is a like a "cloth" or like a "dess" or a "toy" which can be changed and can be motivated to change ? Is it so brittle that any one can break it any time as per wish ?The religions where conversion is allowed and inspired give rise to violence. It is a fact that in Mughal era most the conversion was forceful. Example, many Sikhs Gurus were beheaded by Mughals when they were not willing to accept Quran.
 
Too much democracy also makes the people unruly specially in our Asian countries. Democracy some time shall be limited by law.Conversion shall be banned by law too all over the world.But it will never happen because majority of the religions allow it and thus creates an imbalance in the quantity of different faith holders.So some where minorities are suffering and the same minorities are majorities. Very funny ! Muslim and Christianity were originated in Arab.Any climate and natural environment has a vast effect on its people and on its thought. Through the process of aggression and conversion Muslimism came to the subcontinent like a violent current.If Christianity would come first to this subcontinent then Christian would be more than Moslems in our subcontinent.
 
The subcontinent was divided on the basis of religions and on the basis of the greed of political power of our some leaders.Different religions started fighting and killing each other from the verge and starting of partision.Where is the root cause lies of the fighting and killing each other? Is it the religions? Is is the hard line doctrines of the scriptures ? Is it the libido to rule over other? Some religions inspire to kill others who do not follow. Is is true that killing of other faiths lead the killer to heaven? Rather to tell is there any heaven any body sees after death?
In India is the social welfare is only for Hindus? Are you hinting that there are no social welfare for the Muslims (or other non-Hindus )? Go to West Bengal and see whether the Muslims are happy there or unhappy? Ask them how many Mosques and Madrasas were built in past 30 years. You will hear "many", "many". Ask also about employment. You will get a positive reply.This is true in all the states of India if you find the fact and if you write impartially.
Regarding Hindu Marriage Act of 1955 your mind set is not justified.Every one knows Budhaism, Jainism and Sikhism all were originated from Sanatan Dharma. It is called Sanatan Dharma because there was no man or woman who claimed to be the founder of this religion as if it comes from the origin of human beings. All the religions founded in the subcontinent are more or less same in concept and practice and Muslimism is totally different than all these religions originated in this subcontinent.Actually it is a big mistake by the chief author and editor of Indian constitution to make different marriage rules for Muslim and Hindus in India.
 
You have told about Kerala's princely state of Travancore. Please mind that regarding all the princely states of India, the Government of India diplomatically modified some rules other wise they might not cooperate with Indian administration and will not at all obey to India.This is the diplomacy and we all citizens of India should respect it for our sovereignty.
 
You have told hundreds of mosques are illegal possessions nation wide including Delhi. If you make such an statement in public place in India it will help to loose the communal harmony between the two communities and which will give immense pleasure to Indian arch rival.
 
Now please reply my small question.Will you agree if some one use your land property without your knowledge and build house or club? The answer from you certainly will be "No" if I am not wrong.Then how the Government will allow the building of house with tin or asbestos in corporation or municipal land which is used as mosque by the immigrant laborours from other states? Shall the Government allow such constructions? Go to Sarita Bihar of South Delhi and see how the immigrant construction workers from other states built a mosque with wood and tin in DDA land (Delhi Development Authority) beside Mathura Road. Do you think the mosques which were being made illegally in Government land is a right approach?
 
I agree breaking of Babari Mosque is a shame to all secular people all over the world. If any Babar (Babor) of Mughal era demolished a temple and reconstructed it to a mosque let it be as it was. History will bear the aggression and violence of Babor. But Babor is saved because now history will bear the violence of Bharatiya Janata Party and a stigma to the secular people of India.
 
You had mentioned the Golden Temple in Punjab. Don't you know it was the safe den of the separatists of Punjab.What was the problem with the separatists of Punjab?Don't you know it was a safe place for rapping of women by the separatists? Golden temple shall not be attacked by military because it is a temple.Very funny reason indeed !
The problem of India is within India.The arch rival is the secondary problem.
 
India should not support any anti-India mentality on its soil and India must work on it to over come this problem.Protection of mother land is the first priority to all Indian. Religion should be the least priority.
Regarding Employment Discrimination- the Scheduled Castes and Tribes (Dalits) are down trodden and most oppressed class of India from the ancient time. Dalits were not allowed to read and learn in Pathshalas(schools) and were not allowed to participate any social gatherings.They were the working class and will ploughing fields and growing paddies and corns but were given lower shares by the upper strata Hindus.They cleaned the society by scavenging but they were considered dirty. This is until now more or less.They are until now very undeveloped and educationally very back ward as a whole.But exception is there.The chief writer and the editor of Indian constitution was from this class who was allowed to sit at the back side far from the upper class pupils.There are job reservation for the Dalits in India. But any one who converted to Christian or Moslem will be given the same status of Scheduled castes and tribes ? In Quran there is no castes mentioned.Neither is mentioned in Bible.
 
You mentioned wrongly that there are reservation for Sikhs.Is there any news papers of India which publishes any Job Vacancy indicating reservation for Sikhs? I have never seen and no one will ever see.
 
Some time we mix the word "secular" or "secularism" with many things and create confusion.
 
Discrimination in Army- In 1947 the Indian political situation was boiling.The country was divided into two parts on the 'black' two nation theory which was a big kick to the back bone of the subcontinenet.Hindus including Sikhs and Muslim were migrating to each other's land but not all. At the time of partition the Muslim Hyderabadis had relatives in newly formed Pakistan (until now) and the majority of Hyderabadi as a princely state were not liking to join India rather liking Pakistan.Hyderabad's army might not be taken in 1947. That time Indian Constitution was not authored but after that people from all states joined Indian Army.
 
In 1971 when all east Bengali women and west Bengali women were praying for the Mukti Joddha (Freedom Fighters) and in the same time the Imam of Hyderabad's Jama Mosque near Charminar requested the assembled to pray for Pakistan. Once when I was living in Jeddah one of my senior colleagues from Hyderabad told me this.
 
There are Rajputana Regiments (Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Parshi), Gorkha Regiments in Indian Army. But no Bengal Regiment. I did not feel jealous or disheartened for this.There are Sikhs Regiment but no Muslim Regiment or Hindu Regiment.Is it a discrimination?
 
Regarding Cultural Discrimination- Your write up is very partial. Remember cow meet is not so cheap now-a-days. It is going to touch the price of goat meet very soon.Cow is sacred or not to Hindus that is a matter of controversy but what I understand cow gives us milk when we are kids and when we are old and feeble.Mother gives us milk too.Cow ploughs our land and also gives us dunk for fuel and fertilizer. And when such a 'Abola Prani' becomes old we cut and eat it . For your information there are many Moslems who do not eat beef .
Cow slauter is banned in Gujarat and might be in some other states but all the big cities in India I have seen beef is being sold in open market like fish and vegitables.
 
Lighting lams to inaugurate a function is an ancient Asian and South East Asian Culture .Religion changes but culture does not changes always.
You told like Jamat e Islami that lighting lamp to inaugurate a function is Hindu culture.In middle east this is not a practice I know. But this subcontinent is not Middle East.In a natural process when two religions live side by side for centuries then mixing of practices is must. No one can prevent it and no one should make an issue out of which will help to destroy the peaceful living of Hindu Muslim side by side in India.
I agree with you that recitation of Saraswati Bandana in Parliament shall be stopped immediately.This is unsecular because Saraswati as per Sanatan Faith is Hindu Goddesses of wisdom.
 
But how Bisnu statue at the entrance to IGP H.Q. of Banglaore is destroying the secular image of India? Removal of the statues is just like Taleban like thinking as they destroy all Buddha statues on hill side.Indonesia is a Muslim country but there are many statues relating to their old culture scattered all over the country. Does those idols or statues hampering their religion ? In Muslim religion idols and or statues are prohibited. This prohibition came from the fear of that the desert people may again stick to worship stone statues and gradually they may forget Allah. The present day Moslem are more logical and more intelligent than that of those days when this command had been given but the same practice removal of statues and idols is going on in many countries.
 
Vande(Bande) Mataram is Hindu Lyrics ? Because it is of Sanskrit language ? Or as per Muslimism- no bow head to any one except Allah. The actual meaning of Bande Mataram is the Bandana of Desh Mata , Sujala Sufala Sosyo Syamala Deshmata which was written in Ananda Math. How does it destroy the secular mentality of Indian? Mother land and her protection should be given first priority and then second priority to religion. This is patriotism and which should be the biggest Dharma (Dharmo). No so called Dharmas shall be bigger than this Dharmo.A country of patriotic people is less corrupted and more strong.
 
Surya (Surjo) Namaskar is not related at all to Hindu Dharma.But it is related to Yogasan(Jogason) or in simple word Byam (exercise of mind and body). This was invented in the subcontinent. One of the Yogasana is this Surjo Namaskar. In Indian school there ia a course of Yoga. It is a very simple asana and almost easy Asana for young boys and girls.Every one knows the benefit of Yogasana.Only the fundamentalist will not accept the benefit of the Byam.
 
You told that the text books of history and social studies replete with gross distortion of Indian history.........etc.
This is nothing but an exaggeration by you.
And from your this sentence you can fully understand the negative affect of conversion.
 
Regarding Religious Programmes- Indira Gandhi was murdered by her security guard (a Sikh ) connected with the separatist movement at that time in Punjab.Why she was murdered by a Sikh - on this basis the nuisance makers were targeting Sikhs to kill in a riot. Those rioters were Hindus and Muslims both.
 
Narendra Modi is not a secular person, so many like. Secular aspect of Indian constitution shall not be judged by him and them.
 
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[ALOCHONA] Maritime boundary determination stuck up for more than a decade

Maritime boundary determination stuck up for more than a decade

 

Maritime boundary determination between India, Bangladesh and Myanmar are stuck up for more than a decade with none of these states able to explore and exploit the abundance of food, mineral and energy resources of the Bay of Bengal.Already within the last couple of months both India and Myanmar have encroached, with Naval ships, into the disputed waters, inviting a diplomatic row with Bangladesh.

Bangladesh is likely to be deprived of equitable share in the sea if maritime delimitation is conducted as per equidistance theory as desired by India and Myanmar.According to international law, every coastal state will be entitled to the enjoyment of territorial sea, contiguous sea, exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and continental shelf.

International law also provides for different rules for determining sea boundaries of the countries located at the opposite and adjacent lines. It suggests that sea boundaries of the opposite states will be delimitated through "equidistance" formula while those of the adjacent states through "equitable sharing of sea" principle.

Talking to The Bangladesh Today, Commodore Khurshid Alam (retd) said India and Myanmar want the sea boundaries to be delimitated as per equidistance formula. "If sea boundary is delimitated as per equidistance theory, Bangladesh will be possibly deprived of its share in EEZ and continental shelf," he added.

He said as per Article 15 of the UNCLOS 1982 a coastal state will have right to enjoy 12 nautical miles as territorial sea, under Article 74 it will enjoy 200 nautical miles as EEZ and under Article 83 it will enjoy 350 nautical miles as continental shelf.

"Both India and Myanmar want to settle the matter through 'equitable distance' principle which is not supported by UNCLOS while Bangladesh wants to resolve this problem through 'equitable sharing of sea' supported by the above law," he said.

Most of 28 blocks where Bangladesh would like to explore gas have been disputed by India and Myanmar due to its measurement of sea boundary as per equidistance rule, he said, adding "We have to make India and Myanmar understand that we have to follow UNCLOS 'equitable sharing' principle of determining maritime boundary in resolving the dispute, otherwise we are losing big chunk of area."

Wishing anonymity a government high-up in the Foreign Ministry said after 1986 Bangladesh held four technical meetings with India and Myanmar who wanted to resort to equidistance theory in determining maritime boundary.

"These countries have objected current baseline measured by Bangladesh on '10 fathom' theory, a system of measuring baseline from the point where depth of water is 60 feet. We have to recount our baseline from the end of land in line with international law to establish our other rights over sea."

He said by 2011 Bangladesh will go to the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf (CLCS) at New York where each coastal state needs to place its claim over the continental shelf."We have conducted survey with foreign experts and prepared survey reports which need to be submitted to CLCS to establish our claim. If necessary we will conduct more survey to produce sufficient papers and documents there," he added.

However he said that existing problem relating to maritime boundary will be resolved through discussion as India and Myanmar are also inclined to expedite the resolution and they are expected to agree with Bangladesh in determining sea boundary as per "equitable" principle of sea sharing as referred to in UNCLOS.

"If the problem is not resolved through discussion, Bangladesh will be able to go to the International Court of Justice for resolving the dispute through arbitration by the ICJ," he stated.



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[ALOCHONA] CBd, USA appreciates EC for listening its call

I do appreciate Election Commission (EC) in Bangladesh for listening my personal call/email to look after these disputed UpaZilla election results.  This is the first step within the Democratic process and EC is upholding people's choice/vote.

 
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M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), Virginia, USA
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EC withholds 44 upazila polls results

Among the polls in 62 districts, the Election Commission on Wednesday forwarded the list containing results of 426 upazilas to the Government Printing Press for publication in the official gazette, keeping election results of 44 upazilas withheld.
 
The EC will gradually send the upazila election results from two districts -- Feni and Laxmipur -- to the press after approval of the commission.
 
The 44 upazilas where results are withheld: Gazaria (Munshiganj), Kishoreganj (Nilphamari), Jagannathpur (Sunamganj), Islampur and Madarganj (Jamalpur), Kaliganj (Gazipur), Daulatpur (Manikganj), Pakundia (Kishoreganj), Muladi and Mehendiganj (Barisal), Saghata and Gaibanda Sadar (Gaibandha), Barura, Muradnagar, Daudkandi, Chandina, Nangalkot and Chouddagram (Comilla), Keraniganj (Dhaka), Dighinala (Khagrachhari), Raipura (Narsingdi), Fatikchhari (Chittagong), Kachua (Chandpur), Ukhia and Teknaf (Cox's Bazar), Morelganj and Sharankhola (Bagerhat), Nesarabad and Zianagar (Pirojpur), Belkuchi, Ullapara and Chouhali (Sirajganj), Ajmiriganj (Habiganj), Banchharampur, B'baria Sadar, Ashuganj and Kasba (B'Baria), Atpara and Netrakona Sadar (Netrakona), Harinakunda (Jhenidah), Araihazar (Narayanganj), Madaripur Sadar, and Nandail and Bhaluka (Mymensingh).
 
Talking to the reporters today (Wednesday), EC senior assistant secretary M Abdul Baten said the results of the remaining two upazilas would be forwarded to the press for publication in the gazette after approval by the commission.
 
The Election Commission is busy looking into the alleged irregularities and complaints filed against the upazila elections. As the allegations are quite large in number, there is a delay in sending the results for publication in the gazette.
 
--UNB, Dhaka

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@yahoo.com>
Subject: Cancel Disputed Upazilla Election Results NOW
To: cgmpservices@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:08 PM

I like to reiterate that if AL wants to regain its trust among general people,  they need to ask EC to cancel all Upazilla election results at the disputed areas.  More than 50% election results should be canceled based on the reports from the ground.
 
I like to remind that total setup by AL in Upazilla election in Munshigonj areas won't be acceptable.  AL thought that this is the only Goldmine left for them since Padma Bridge will be built and will able to maximize their corrupt money with this election setup in that areas.  Since I am from that area and I can speak more with facts and ground reports for this case.
 
This is the high time for AL to be credible for the next 5 years.  They should cancel all Upazilla election results from these areas as soon as possible.  AL was so greedy that  one case AL dished your own 25 yrs honest veterans leader  from this area and failed him with vote rigging and set-up since he won't allow any corruption in that areas for Padma Bridge.
 
Before your mask gets out to the public, it's your own benefit to make it honest, make it better and make it right NOW.
 
I will keep pressuring AL/EC to cancel these disputed results until you fix it yourself.  If you do not do, your credibility will be worst soon.  I will work to save poor people wealth and their future in that areas.
 
I hope someone in AL is listening my call.  God bless poor people in that areas.
 
 
Regards,
M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
 
 
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The Election Commission (EC) today suspended the polls results of seven upazilas in line with the allegations of massive irregularities during the polling.
 
The upazilas are Banchharampur in Brahmanbaria, Araihazar in Narayanganj, Teknaf in Cox's Bazaar, Kaliganj in Gazipur, Mehendiganj in Barisal, Muradnagar in Comilla and Raipura in Narsingdi, Election Commissioner M Sakhawat Hussein said.
 
The election commissioner said a judicial inquiry committee will be formed to investigate the allegations and a final decision will be taken after the committee files its report.
On a query he said, "Legal steps will be taken against the lawmakers accused of exerting political influence in the January 22 upazila elections ."
 
On the election day, the EC called off elections to Brahmanbaria Sadar, Ramganj in Laxmipur, Barura in Comilla and Belkuchi in Sirajganj while polling of Dighinala (Khagrachari) and Ukhia (Cox's Bazaar) had been put off before the voting day.
The commissioner said the judicial inquiry committee will also investigate the irregularities in the upazilas where elections were postponed.
 
Re-election in these six upazilas would be held sometime soon, Sakhawat added.


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[mukto-mona] EKATTORER JUDDHO-SHIDHU - BANGLA BOOK

Please post - with a reference to Farid's article.
 
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www.NYBangla.com e amar boiyer ekta news...click kore dekhte paren...
 

http://www.nybangla.com/News/Current/Feb_04_2009/21_All/Quazi_News.pdf

 
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[ALOCHONA] Transit Issue

I did not read the whole report yet but I like to advise to current Govt that pull results on all the previous agreements with India and put a review process with its progress card and how much India is obeying. Make 3 months interval observation until Jan 2010. Once previous agreements success is above 90%, then you can start thinking signing more agreements with India.
 
The bottom line is that you have to create two way streets to make benefit to each others. I am not against or in favor of these agreements, just asking for implementation on previous agreements first, that's all I am saying.
 
This will be a win-win situation for both countries. Please don't rush things when some one shows you an apple but actually give you a grape (small size).
 
If you need expert NRBs assessment on these issues, please ask for help.
 
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www.changebangladesh.org
 
 
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All trade issues to be discussed with Indian Minister during his visit
TIFA with USA at final stage, cabinet to consider soon

The new government is actively considering providing transit to neighbouring India in pursuance of an existing accord while a much-talked-about business deal with America is in the final stage of processing, Commerce Minister Mohammad Faruq Khan said on Tuesday.
"Transit (to India) is under active consideration of the government. If we find it benefiting the people of the country, we'll definitely sign agreement," he told a questioner at AmCham's monthly luncheon meeting at a city hotel in one of the two major disclosures.
The commerce minister mentioned that Bangladesh is waiting for the visit of Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukharjee, who is due next week in the first high-level trip from India after change of government in Dhaka.
He also said that the proposed Trade and Investment Framework Agreement (TIFA) with the United States was now at the final stage and it would be placed before the Cabinet for consideration.
American Chamber of Commerce (AmCham) president Ershad Ahmed presided over the meeting. US Ambassador in Dhaka James F Moriarty was preset on the occasion.
Faruq Khan said transit and other trade-related issues like Bangladeshi products, particularly RMG's, quota-free, duty-free access to Indian market, non-tariff barriers against Bangladeshi products on the Indian side would be discussed in the meeting with the neighbouring country's foreign minister. "We hope all the issues will be resolved in the meeting and both the governments will be able to get some positive results," he said.
Faruq Khan, however, said the issue of providing the transit facility had already been agreed upon in the Article 8 of the Indo-Bangla Trade Agreement signed with India way back during Ziaur Rahman's government.
"The then Bangladesh Commerce Minister, Tanveer Ahmed, and his then counterpart Pronab Mukharjee had signed that agreement," the minister of the Awami League-led Grand Alliance government informed his business audience.
The deal was renewed every three years-and the last renewal was made in 2006, during the previous BNP government, when the then finance minister, Saifur Rahman, was the signatory.
Replying to another question, the commerce minister said the issue of transit with Nepal and Bhutan would also be discussed in the meeting with the Indian foreign minister.
"All issues can be resolved if there is political will. I hope both the countries will understand the benefit of the people, because all the governments now in the South Asian region are democratically elected," he said.
Khan, a former army officer, observed that the politicians have failed to utilize the business and development potentialities of the region. "Trade issues always came as political weapon."
He alleged that Bangladeshi products could not get easy access to the Indian market because of the non-tariff barriers imposed by the Indian side to create obstacles.
About the TIFA, which has generated contentions in some circles, Col Faruq Khan said there had been three negotiations on the matter and the government has almost reached the final stage to give the deal the seal of approval.
The US government has been pursuing the Bangladesh government for signing on the proposed TIFA. But all the previous Bangladesh governments had taken time to examine the matter and negotiate with the USA.
Faruq Khan said the present government is a business- friendly one and its one of the main responsibilities is to create environment to restore the confidence of the businessmen.


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[ALOCHONA] JS seat row persists: Solution looks distant.What you think?




From: chwdhury@hotmail.com
To: banglarnari@yahoogroups.com
CC: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: JS seat row persists: Solution looks distant.What you think?
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:26:58 +0000


Latest Speaker Abdul Hamid Advocate said, "A change can be made in the seat order if BNP returns to Parliament during the current session so that we can work things out."
 
Do you think government party should give more twist up? I don't think so.
 
BNP will never cooperate this Parlament. If seat problem will resolve,they will create another problem. So my advise to AL," don't worry, let them keep outside of Parlament, there are no differance 28 MPs is out/in side the Parlament.
 
Regards
J.A.Chowdhury
 


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