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Monday, February 16, 2009

[ALOCHONA] 35 students injured in BCL infighting at JU

35 students injured in BCL
infighting at JU

Courtesy New Age 17/2/09

JU Correspondent

 

Gunfights between two factions of the Awami League-backed Bangladesh Chhatra League at Jahangirnagar University over establishing supremacy left at least 35 activists injured on Monday, with only two days left for the month-long suspension on the activities of the unit.
   After the clash, the Chhatra League central committee suspended again all activities of the university unit for another month, Mahfuzul Hayder Chowdhury Roton, the general secretary of the central committee, told New Age.
   The feuding groups exchanged around 20 rounds of gunshots during the clashes.
   Of the injured, three leaders Sagar, Shobhan and Shubho were sent to Dhaka Medical College Hospital with bullet injuries and their conditions deteriorated.
   The violence sparked off at around 11:00am when activists of the rebel faction, led by Ayan-Azibur, with the backup of Jatiyatabadi Chhatra Dal activists, attacked Nayan, Shajib, Rubel and Zihan, loyal to the president and general secretary-led faction, at various places on the campus with iron rods, sticks and brickbats.
   As the news spread, more than a hundred activists of the president-secretary-led faction from Mir Mosharraf Hossain Hall, Al Beruni Hall, Salam Barkat Hall and AFM Kamal Uddin Hall rushed to Bangabandhu Hall and Bhasani Hall, controlled by the rebel faction, attacked activists of the rebel faction with firearms, sticks and machetes.
   Both the groups chased each other and police went on a futile effort to disperse them firing teargas shells.
   At around 1:00pm, the university proctor, Nasir Uddin, along with other assistant proctors, went to the spot and tried to mediate between the groups. As the proctor assured the president-secretary-led faction of punishing the attackers, they went back to their halls.
   Immediately after the assurance, some unknown people damaged the houses of the proctor and the university teachers’ association general secretary, Shamsul Alam Selim.
   The activists loyal to Azibur-Ayan faction reorganised at around 3:00pm and attacked the other group. Both the groups traded gunshots and at least three activists sustained bullet injuries.
   After the second spell of gunfight, activists belonging to the president-secretary-led faction cordoned off the members of the proctorial body and a former vice-chancellor in front of Kamal Uddin Hall and demanded their immediate resignation. They were freed after half an hour.
   Sohel Parvez, the president of university unit Chhatra League, claimed the rebel faction had attacked them in a planned way. ‘They have the administration with them.’ He also denied any involvement in damaging the teachers’ residences.
   The provosts and deans sat in a meeting in the evening and decided to deploy riot police at the residential halls and extend cooperation to the law enforcers.
   The university teachers’ association, in another meeting, demanded punishment of the attackers on teachers and threatened to go for tougher movement if the authorities ignored the issue.
   Earlier on January 18, the Chhatra League central committee suspended all the activities of the university unit following a clash between the two factions.

 

 



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[ALOCHONA] Saving Bangladesh from sinking due to sea level rise

Saving Bangladesh from sinking due to sea level rise

Courtesy New Age 17/2/09

 

If we can trap ten per cent of the sediments coming to Bangladesh through its rivers, we can save ourselves from the curse of sea level rise. This should not be difficult. Some sediment is deposited any way and this is how Bangladesh delta has been built. We have to take some extra measures to accelerate this sediment building process,
writes Dr AM Choudhury

 

THOMAS Malthus published in 1798 the ‘Essay on the principle of population as it affects the future improvement of society.’ He theorised that population tended to increase in a geometrical progression (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32…) while subsistence increased only in arithmetical progression (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6…). If Malthus’s theory was correct, mankind would have suffered extinction by now. The fact is that economists including the great ones like Adam Smith, Karl Marx, and Maynard Keynes propound their theories based on existing situation and they fail to perceive the future development of society due to increased application of science and technology and other factors. For example, the present global economic depression could not be predicted by any living economists including many Nobel laureates. Nevertheless, the warnings of the economists serve one purpose, i.e. we have to change if we want to avert the impending disaster as predicted in their theories.
   Malthus’s predictions did not come true firstly because of the development of contraceptive devices helped to arrest the increase of population so much so that in advanced countries the population has stabilised; it is not increasing rather in some countries there is a negative population growth. Resources on the other hand increased tremendously because of the revolution in application of science and technology typified by the industrial revolution and green revolution in agriculture. As a result, in advanced countries people instead of living an impoverished life are more prosperous than ever before. However, this is not so in the case of least developed countries. Here Malthus’s theory still has relevance. In Bangladesh, for example, the population has doubled during the last 40 years and the agricultural production though trebled during this period and there has developed quite an affluent society, but a sizeable portion of population lives in abject poverty. Moreover, arable land is decreasing and there is a limit to growth of agricultural production, industry has not advanced as much as needed.
   Bangladesh is the most densely populated country in the world. There live 150 million people in an area of nearly 148,000 square kilometres of area including forests, rivers and wetlands giving a population density of 1,000 people per square kilometre, which is the highest in the world. If we include only the habitable area, this density will be much more. But the situation is disastrous because of the prediction that, as the coastal area of Bangladesh is too low a significant section of its land area will sink as a result of rise in the sea level due to global warming arising mainly out of the use of fossil fuels at a high rate. The WMO/UNEP Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has predicted that the globally averaged surface temperature is to increase by 1.4-5.8 degrees Celsius between 1990 and 2100. The global mean sea level is expected to rise by about one metre during this period. The sea level rise occurs due to melting of ice in the Antarctic and in Greenland which are the major sources of land ice. Now as Bangladesh is a very low elevation delta some 20 per cent of its land area stands to be devoured by sea. The shaded area in the attached figure shows the land to be submerged by sea as a result of one metre rise of sea level. It is estimated that our GDP will incur a loss of 7 per cent due to this. This will have far-reaching consequences for Bangladesh. The rise of ocean water will force population to be congested into smaller areas, destroy agricultural lands, force migration and with a population density of 1,000 people per sq. mile will simply be unbearable for Bangladesh and it will face the greatest natural catastrophe in its history.
   We know that the great river system of Bangladesh namely the Ganges, the Brahmaputra and the Meghna carry a sediment load of two billion tonnes annually. If we can develop technology of trapping ten per cent of the nature’s gift of sediments the calamity of sinking of Bangladesh coast will be averted. This is shown in the very simple calculations which are as follows. We assume that Bangladesh coast from Khulna to Chittagong has a straight coast of 300 kilometres in length. One metre rise of sea level will penetrate to a distance of 100 kilometres from the coastal boundary as is shown in the figure though this is not straight. But we have to make some simplifying assumptions for the ease of calculation. This gives us a volume of 15km cube of water that will enter into Bangladesh as a result of one metre rise of sea level in say 100 years. Now let us see the volume of two billion tonnes of sediments that comes annually through the river systems of Bangladesh. Taking the sediment density slightly heavier than water say 1.3 gram per cm cube this volume comes out to be 1.5km cube per year. Over hundred years this comes out to be 150 km cube which is ten times the volume of water that will enter Bangladesh coastal territory due to sea level rise during this period.
   Thus, we see that if we can trap ten per cent of the sediments coming to Bangladesh through its rivers, we can save ourselves from the curse of sea level rise. This should not be difficult. Some sediment is deposited any way and this is how Bangladesh delta has been built. We have to take some extra measures to accelerate this sediment building process. Massive afforestation has to take place along all the river banks, along the embankments and all vacant places. Every citizen, every government institutions and every citizen will have to take part in afforestation to trap sediments. This will generate a lot of employment. Next, cross dams at appropriate places have to be constructed to reclaim land. The government has to form a land reclamation authority for this purpose. Top experts in the world can be recruited for this purpose. The world community has pledged to help Bangladesh in its effort to fight climate change. Here is a chance to save Bangladesh from a calamity. The calculations here have been kept simple, but detailed calculations involving computer and digital elevation model will not give a much different result.

 

 



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[ALOCHONA] TRIAL OF WAR CRIMINALS


Dhaka should not seek Pak coop right now: special envoy

 

Islamabad felt that Dhaka should not 'at this moment' seek its cooperation for holding the trial of the war criminals as the countries had other issues to concentrate on to further improve the bilateral ties.


   This was stated by the visiting envoy, Mirza Zia Ispahani, the special envoy of the Pakistani president, Asif Ali Zardari, after his meeting with the foreign minister, Dipu Moni at the latter's office Monday evening.
   Ispahani arrived in the capital Monday afternoon on a five-day tour to convey the good wishes to the prime minister, Sheikh Hasina on behalf of the Pakistani president.


   Responding to a query about what would be Pakistan's response in cooperating with Bangladesh to hold the trial of the war criminals of 1971, he said, 'I think it [the issue] should not go now at this moment as we have so many other issues to concentrate on to strengthen the ties with Bangladesh.'
   He declined to make any comment on whether the Awami League government would go ahead with one of its major election pledges to hold the trial of the war criminals.


   In reply to a question whether the issue was raised in the discussion, the former Pakistan ambassador in Switzerland and Italy replied in the negative.
   The government, however, had sought assistance from other external partners including the United States and the United Nations over the issue.
   Dwelling on the subject of the proposed anti-terror and anti-militant regional task force, the envoy said that the planned regional framework was a new and good idea.


   Ispahani said, 'We have discussed the issue. Right now it is just an idea. We have to discuss the subject with the concerned persons now.'
   On the issue of apologizing for the atrocities perpetrated by the Pakistani troops during the war of independence, he said that former Pakistani president General Parvez Musharraf had apologized for that and visited the war memorial during his Dhaka visit and former Pakistani prime minister had also done the same.


   The special envoy of the Pakistani president told reporters that his visit was aimed at strengthening ties between the two countries as both Bangladesh and Pakistan had newly elected governments.
   Among others, the Pakistani high commissioner in Dhaka, Alamagir Babar was present during the meeting.


   Earlier in the day additional foreign secretary, M A K Mahmood and director general of the South Asia wing of the ministry, Mohammad Imran received the Pakistani president's envoy at the Zia International Airport.

 

http://www.newagebd.com/2009/feb/17/front.html




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[ALOCHONA] Gunbattle at JU again:BCL factions trade shots; 5 bullet-hit among 50 hurt


Two factions of Bangladesh Chhatra League locked in a fierce clash on Jahangirnagar University (JU) campus yesterday that left at least 50 people injured, five of them with bullets. The sporadic clashes continued till filing this report at 2:00am today starting from around 2:00pm yesterday.

Witnesses said the clashes began between the two groups when cadres of Ayon group swooped on Jony group at Bottola, in front of Maulana Bhasani Hall, over establishing supremacy on campus.

A group of unidentified men at one stage also attacked the residents of acting Proctor Prof Md Nasiruddin and General Secretary of Jahangirnagar University Teachers Association Prof Shamsul Alam Selim.

Police raided Bangabandhu Hall and AFM Kamaluddin Hall late last night but failed to seize any arms except a few iron rods. Police, however, arrested 19 students of Ayon group, sources at the Savar Police Station said.

Chhatra League central committee suspended all activities of JU Chhatra League unit for a month more following the clashes. Last month, the two Chhatra League factions clashed with each other on campus that left 30 students injured. The central committee had then suspended activities of its JU unit for a month.

"A few activists of Ayon group beat up Nayan, an activist of Jony group, in Bangabandhu Hall in the morning. Hearing the news, activists of Jony group launched a hectic search for the attackers on campus and finally they beat up some activists of Ayon group in Bangabandhu Hall around noon," a student said.

In the meantime, a few activists of Jony group took position in Bottola area and the activists of Ayon group attacked them with sharp weapons that left five injured.

Following the attack, over 200 activists of Jony group launched an attack on the activist of Ayon group with firearms at Battola. Later, chases and counter chases took place between the two groups in Bangabandhu Hall, Kamal Uddin Hall, Bhasani Hall and Mir Mosharraf Hossain Hall and in front of the Social Science Faculty.

Both groups used firearms, iron rods, hockey sticks, machetes and sticks during an hour-long clash that turned the campus into a battlefield. Fifteen of the injured, including bullet-hit students were admitted to different hospitals and clinics in the capital and in Savar.

The bullet-hit students are Sagar and Robin, student of masters' degree in economics, Sujan, a second-year honours student, and Rubel and Sohel, first-year students.

Rubel and Sohel, received bullets in their legs, and were undergoing treatment at Pongu Hospital in the capital. Condition of two other injured students--Shubho and Sobhon--was stated to be critical at Enam Medical College and Hospital in Savar. Sajib, Khokan, Rony, Ripon and Jihan were also admitted to that hospital.

An emergency syndicate meeting was held in the evening to discuss the campus situation but the vice-chancellor of the university was not available to make any comments.

After the meeting, Assistant Proctor Abdullah Hel Kafi said they will stop such clashes by any means but he could not say how. "It is a political conflict and this issue will end through the interference of the top leaders of Awami League," he told The Daily Star.

Campus sources said the conflict began between the two groups as Adnan Bhuiyan Ayon, leader of the Ayon group, gave shelter to former JCD activists in JU Chhatra League unit.

Additional police were deployed on campus and police will conduct raids in the halls soon, police sources said. Witnesses said though all Chhatra League activities were banned in the university, both the factions have been showing off their muscles for the last few days.

Executive council of JU teachers association in an emergency meeting placed four demands before the university authorities including immediate arrest of those who attacked teachers' homes.



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[ALOCHONA] CG, its many actions extra-constitutional

 
A draft report of the parliament's special committee calls the formation of immediate past caretaker government and many of its activities extra-constitutional. The report is likely to be placed in the House today.

It also accuses immediate past president Iajuddin Ahmed of exercising extra-constitutional authority regarding promulgation of ordinances repealing existing laws, sources said quoting from the draft report which was being finalised yesterday."The committee thinks, formation of the non-partisan caretaker government, and many of its exercised authorities were extra-constitutional," observes the report, after examining the caretaker government's jurisdiction allowed by article 58 (D) of the constitution.

Chairman of the committee, Advocate Rahmat Ali, told The Daily Star over the phone yesterday that the report would be finalised after some modification of the draft. "I am trying to place the report in the parliament tomorrow," said the chief of the committee, which was formed on January 28 consisting 15 senior lawmakers, to select ratifiable ordinances promulgated just before and during the caretaker regime.

Asked about the committee's observation on the immediate past caretaker government and the erstwhile president, Rahmat Ali said members of the committee raised questions about their activities. "Their opinions will be reflected in the report," he added.

The report might prompt the parliament to bring charges of constitution violation against the immediate past caretaker government and former president Iajuddin Ahmed.

Participating in a discussion on a thanks giving motion on the immediate past president's address to the maiden meet of the House, many treasury bench lawmakers accused him of violating the constitution, and questioned the legality of caretaker government's many activities.

After the committee's report is placed in the parliament, it will be well within the jurisdiction of the House to decide whether to look into the charges, and take steps to resolve the constitutional quagmire, committee members observed.

A question regarding whether the caretaker government's overstay in power requires a legal coverage was also already raised. The special committee already started figuring out a way for giving the almost two-year caretaker regime a legal cover, if required. The committee is scheduled to meet again today to discuss the matter.

Initially the committee members were in favour of providing the cover, but after consulting legal experts and deliberations among themselves, they now seem to be changing their previous position on the issue. The constitution allowed the caretaker government to stay in power for only 90 days, but the latter ended up prolonging its regime almost for two years.

On special invitation of Law Minister Shafique Ahmed, two former attorney generals Mahmudul Islam and Rafiq-ul-Haque, eminent jurists Dr M Zahir, Azmalul Hossain QC, Tawfiq Newaz, and Barrister Fazle-Noor-Taposh MP attended the committee's meetings and gave their opinions on constitutional jurisdiction of the immediate past caretaker government. They also helped the committee to select 54 ordinances for recommendation for ratification by the parliament, which were finalised on Sunday.

On the president's authority to promulgate ordinances under article 93 of the constitution, the committee in its draft report observes that the president may promulgate ordinances in absence of a parliament or if it is not in session, but the authority is limited. But enacting new laws through promulgation of ordinances repealing laws enacted by a parliament is out of bounds for the president, the report adds.

Referring to the experts' opinions and article 58 (D) of the constitution, the report also says a non-partisan caretaker government is an interim government, and the foundation of its functions is that article.

Article 58 (D) says a non-partisan caretaker government will function as an interim government and will carry out only routine governmental duties with the aid and assistance of persons in services of the republic, and except in cases of necessity for being able to carry out such duties, it will not make any policy decision.

The article also says a non-partisan caretaker government will provide the Election Commission with all possible aid and assistance required for holding a peaceful, fair, and impartial general election to the parliament. But the immediate past caretaker government promulgated 119 ordinances, many of which are not related to elections, law and order, and routine governmental work.

A total of 122 ordinances were promulgated since the concluding meeting of the last parliament, with three of those being promulgated just before the caretaker government took over power.
 



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[ALOCHONA] BD deprived of Ganges water as India violates treaty

BD deprived of Ganges water as India violates treaty

Govt planning to enter into water sharing agreements for other 53 rivers

Staff Correspondent

Bangladesh is deprived of proper share in Ganges water as per treaty
as India is not providing expected flow of water as required by the
agreement signed between two countries in 1996.

Article 2(2) of Sharing of the Ganges Waters stipulates that effort
will be made by the upper riparian state to protect the flows of water
at Farakka as per 40 years of average availability but India is
violating this provision.
Talking to The Bangladesh, Dr Ain-un-Nishat said Bangladesh is getting
waters of Ganges as found at Farakka point but supply of waters to
Farakka point is too little for Bangladesh.

He said "There are three parts in this treaty. Article-1 provides for
sharing of water as available at Farakka but my understanding is that
allocation to Bangladesh is made based on this provision. But
Article-2 (2) stipulates that India will protect the flow at a
specified level. Unless this protection mechanism is in operation the
residual flow that arrives at Farakka may not be the flow that matches
40 years average condition. In short, the flow distributed has not
been protected by India as per provision of the treaty."

Second part of the treaty stipulates that as present level of flow at
Farakka is not adequate, it must be augmented. But this aspect of the
treaty remains unattended, he alleged.

He said third part of the treaty had proposed agreement on all other
common rivers. In my view the government should arrive at sharing
arrangement or joint management plan as soon as possible to safeguard
the interest of the country.
"Had Bangladesh entered into water sharing agreement with India in
1972/ 1973, it would not be deprived of river waters now. What India
is doing now is that it is supplying residual water to Farakka to be
shared by Bangladesh as India is either withdrawing water from upper
riparian rivers or diverting water flows to other rivers within India
by river linking projects," he added.

Water Resources Ministry said total flow reaching at Farakka during
the first ten days of February, 2009 was 81,650 cusec which was lower
than the 40 years historical average flow of 86,323 cusec as mentioned
in treaty. Bangladesh was supposed to get 46, 323 cusec water but it
has got actually 41,650 cusec water in first ten days of February.
Similarly, Bangladesh is being continuously deprived of its share
despite the agreement.

However, ministry sources confirmed that the government led by Awami
League is considering entering into fresh agreements with India in
respect of remaining 53 joint rivers to share waters from those as
well but as to when such water-sharing agreement will be arrived at is
entirely uncertain.

The Bangladesh Today – February 17, 2009


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Re: [ALOCHONA] Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

Dear Mr. Robin Khundkar,
 
I agree that you never give your opponents upper hand to spoil you what Dr Moni has done even Bangladesh is a small country compare to India and has few limitation.  I will not start emailing back and fourth with Mr. Robin Khundkar what "Buffer" means.  You better find it yourself. 
 
I know what I have meant and I think many of ALOCHOC know what I have meant.  Change also starts from the top to bottom, now it depends what works best for Bangladesh based on reality and facts.
 
Regards,
M. M. Chowdhury

--- On Thu, 2/12/09, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 8:50 PM

I think she did not know the meaning of "buffer" or she thought it was "butter". An Indian journalist "buttering" Bangladesh Foreign Minister what a great honor.
A few years ago when a West Bengal Minister addressed Sk. Hasina, the then Prime Minister as "The Chief Minister of Bangladesh" she also did not protest. She thought it was great honor from the Bharatiya Dadas.
 
SH
Toronto


From: Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@earthlink .net>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

Dear Mr. Chowdhury:
Unfortunately, it seems you are playing to the gallery just like a politician. It seems you are playing to our fears by just repeating someone else's account of what was said.
I am unclear as to what exactly you are objecting to. The word buffer!!!
Please provide the context in which the remark was made, what offends you and why it offends.  Let us talk about it and take it up if it was real!!  Otherwise it is neither here nor there and does not help in moving things forward.
I think as a believer in Change Bangladesh, you must be able to look at every angle with no sacred cows. Surely you will agree with me on that.
Or do you believe like many of us in Alochona that we know everything and only the OTHER has to change. Thats not the kind of change I want put my marbles in.
In the wise words of that old fool Gandhiji (so many of us so-called MODERNS either are embarrased about as an old FOOL or disparage him as a Cunning HINDU) "You must be the change you want to see in the world".
Buffer statements are designed to soften the unfavorable news and establish some common ground with the receiver. Buffers are critical to the effectiveness of the indirect approach. Their use helps you to begin your communication on a positive note and to avoid an emphasis on the negative.

buffer state http://www.123exp- government. com/t/0377434540 2/

A buffer state is a country lying between two rival or potentially hostile greater powers, which by its sheer existence is thought to prevent conflict between them. Buffer states when authentically independent typically pursue a neutralist foreign policy, which distinguishes them from satellite states.
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)"
Sent: Feb 11, 2009 10:26 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

"Bangladesh did not get the independent state through anyone's blessings. We achieved it through liberation war and we'll protect it at any cost," said AL spokesman Syed Ashraful Islam.

His attention drawn to an Indian journalist's query to Foreign Minister Dipu Moni, outrageously dubbing Bangladesh as a 'buffer state', he said the Foreign Minister could not guess the importance of the issue in the face of the insidious remark.

The Foreign Minister, a fresher in the job of dealing with diplomatic parlance, kept silent when Bangladeshi journalists wanted to know her reaction over the Indian journalist's salvo calling Bangladesh 'buffer state'.

--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:52 AM

I don't quite understand the idiotic outrage over the phase "buffer state". It simply means a state that acts as a neutral "buffer" between two hostile countries. A buffer state can be a geographical and/or political buffer. Mongolia, for example, acts as a "buffer state" between the two very hostile states, Russia and China. It's sad that our foreign minister doesn't understand the meaning of a "buffer state", and nor do most of our populace. For years, India has acted as a "buffer state" between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Ever wonder why Myanmar military junta with a larger army (and lots of Chinese and North Korean weapons) than that of Bangladesh doesn't invade Bangladesh?
 
Contrary to the original posting by Ms Chowdhury suggests, a buffer state is not a failed state, nor is it a proxy state. I am not sure how ISI is trying to prove Bangladesh is a failed state. Does anyone care to explain? If they are, does it really matter? At least we have a democratic government, no matter how inefficient it may be. What they have is a sham of a state, in-grown insurgency, stolen elections, military coups, and growing intolerance towards the seculars. Look up the words "lawless" and "failed state" in a dictionary, and you would see the map of Pakistan in it.
 
Just my two cents,
Cyrus


From: jahid russel <jahidrussel@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

do you guys know what is a buffer state?

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:33 AM

She needs to step down for the sake of Bangladesh if she cares about Bangladesh.
 
Regards,
M M Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
www.changebanglades h.org

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com> wrote:
From: mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com>
Subject: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:33 PM

 
 Our so called well educated , harverd certified Madam Diu moni has agreed that Banladesh is a buffer state of pakistan
 
 
 
অতীতে বাংলাদেশের স্বার্থ বিসর্জন দিয়ে হলেও আলীগ ভারতের সাথে যেসব চুক্তি করেছে তার কোনটাই দাদারা বাস্তবায়ন করেনি । ভারতের সাথে আলীগের চুক্তি মানেই বাংলাদেশের স্বার্থ বিসর্জন নয় কি ?সর্বশক্তি দিয়ে প্রতিরোধ করা কি নাগরিক দায়িত্ব নয় ?


--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com>
Subject: Pak Intelligence is trying to prove that Bangladesh is a failure country....
To: admin.bengalitimes@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:59 PM

Hi Dear/
Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence ISI is trying to prove that Bangladesh
is a failure country.Is it true?
International magazine News Week has published an exclusive report 
about Bangladesh. They said that Awami League has attached with Delhi. 
Do you want to know the details? 
Pls click here www.thebengalitimes .com 
The Canadian Bengali weekly Bengali Times current issue is in online now.
Pls visit Bengali Times online issue and send your feedback.
Bengali Times is always with you.
Regards,

Sunity Chowdhury
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Weekly Bengali Times
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Re: [ALOCHONA] Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

Dear Mr Hussain:

It is quite clear neither do you understand the meaning of the word buffer. But keep talking I think everyone at Alochona is getting a good understanding of your thinking and that of your mutual admiration and cheering squad. You spend all your time being deaf & blind,  parroting meaningless inanities and completely out of touch and living in the past.

Good luck to you!

Robin Khundkar 




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sajjad Hossain
Sent: Feb 12, 2009 8:50 PM
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

I think she did not know the meaning of "buffer" or she thought it was "butter". An Indian journalist "buttering" Bangladesh Foreign Minister what a great honor.
A few years ago when a West Bengal Minister addressed Sk. Hasina, the then Prime Minister as "The Chief Minister of Bangladesh" she also did not protest. She thought it was great honor from the Bharatiya Dadas.
 
SH
Toronto


From: Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@earthlink.net>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

Dear Mr. Chowdhury:

Unfortunately, it seems you are playing to the gallery just like a politician. It seems you are playing to our fears by just repeating someone else's account of what was said.

I am unclear as to what exactly you are objecting to. The word buffer!!!

Please provide the context in which the remark was made, what offends you and why it offends.  Let us talk about it and take it up if it was real!!  Otherwise it is neither here nor there and does not help in moving things forward.

I think as a believer in Change Bangladesh, you must be able to look at every angle with no sacred cows. Surely you will agree with me on that.

Or do you believe like many of us in Alochona that we know everything and only the OTHER has to change. Thats not the kind of change I want put my marbles in.

In the wise words of that old fool Gandhiji (so many of us so-called MODERNS either are embarrased about as an old FOOL or disparage him as a Cunning HINDU) "You must be the change you want to see in the world".

Robin Khundkar


http://www.blurtit. com/q587546. html

Buffer statements are designed to soften the unfavorable news and establish some common ground with the receiver. Buffers are critical to the effectiveness of the indirect approach. Their use helps you to begin your communication on a positive note and to avoid an emphasis on the negative.

buffer state http://www.123exp- government. com/t/0377434540 2/

A buffer state is a country lying between two rival or potentially hostile greater powers, which by its sheer existence is thought to prevent conflict between them. Buffer states when authentically independent typically pursue a neutralist foreign policy, which distinguishes them from satellite states.
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)"
Sent: Feb 11, 2009 10:26 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

"Bangladesh did not get the independent state through anyone's blessings. We achieved it through liberation war and we'll protect it at any cost," said AL spokesman Syed Ashraful Islam.

His attention drawn to an Indian journalist's query to Foreign Minister Dipu Moni, outrageously dubbing Bangladesh as a 'buffer state', he said the Foreign Minister could not guess the importance of the issue in the face of the insidious remark.

The Foreign Minister, a fresher in the job of dealing with diplomatic parlance, kept silent when Bangladeshi journalists wanted to know her reaction over the Indian journalist's salvo calling Bangladesh 'buffer state'.

--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:52 AM

I don't quite understand the idiotic outrage over the phase "buffer state". It simply means a state that acts as a neutral "buffer" between two hostile countries. A buffer state can be a geographical and/or political buffer. Mongolia, for example, acts as a "buffer state" between the two very hostile states, Russia and China. It's sad that our foreign minister doesn't understand the meaning of a "buffer state", and nor do most of our populace. For years, India has acted as a "buffer state" between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Ever wonder why Myanmar military junta with a larger army (and lots of Chinese and North Korean weapons) than that of Bangladesh doesn't invade Bangladesh?
 
Contrary to the original posting by Ms Chowdhury suggests, a buffer state is not a failed state, nor is it a proxy state. I am not sure how ISI is trying to prove Bangladesh is a failed state. Does anyone care to explain? If they are, does it really matter? At least we have a democratic government, no matter how inefficient it may be. What they have is a sham of a state, in-grown insurgency, stolen elections, military coups, and growing intolerance towards the seculars. Look up the words "lawless" and "failed state" in a dictionary, and you would see the map of Pakistan in it.
 
Just my two cents,
Cyrus


From: jahid russel <jahidrussel@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance

do you guys know what is a buffer state?

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:33 AM

She needs to step down for the sake of Bangladesh if she cares about Bangladesh.
 
Regards,
M M Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
www.changebanglades h.org

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com> wrote:
From: mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com>
Subject: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:33 PM

 
 Our so called well educated , harverd certified Madam Diu moni has agreed that Banladesh is a buffer state of pakistan
 
 
 
অতীতে বাংলাদেশের স্বার্থ বিসর্জন দিয়ে হলেও আলীগ ভারতের সাথে যেসব চুক্তি করেছে তার কোনটাই দাদারা বাস্তবায়ন করেনি । ভারতের সাথে আলীগের চুক্তি মানেই বাংলাদেশের স্বার্থ বিসর্জন নয় কি ?সর্বশক্তি দিয়ে প্রতিরোধ করা কি নাগরিক দায়িত্ব নয় ?


--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com>
Subject: Pak Intelligence is trying to prove that Bangladesh is a failure country....
To: admin.bengalitimes@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:59 PM

Hi Dear/
Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence ISI is trying to prove that Bangladesh
is a failure country.Is it true?
International magazine News Week has published an exclusive report 
about Bangladesh. They said that Awami League has attached with Delhi. 
Do you want to know the details? 
Pls click here www.thebengalitimes .com 
The Canadian Bengali weekly Bengali Times current issue is in online now.
Pls visit Bengali Times online issue and send your feedback.
Bengali Times is always with you.
Regards,

Sunity Chowdhury
Sales and Publicity
Weekly Bengali Times
Toronto,Canada.













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[ALOCHONA] Holbrooke Visit Sparks Indian Anxieties

interesting read! Raja Mohan's article (bottom) below is very instructive!


-----Forwarded Message-----
From: S S
Sent: Feb 16, 2009 11:59 AM
To:  ,
Subject: [Holbrooke Visit Sparks Indian Anxieties

[As Raja Mohan's article appended below shows, the Indian wish-list would
include, at its very top, no mention of the K-word. But not only that. An
active military role in Afghanistan, stoutly denied by the otherwise overly
friendly Bush administration. And a say in re-shaping Pakistan. And, of
course, no re-hyphenation of the two asymmetric neighbours.

But the very deployment of Richard Holbrooke to the region as the US Special
Envoy has rattled the Indian establishment. For it knows that any honest
observer would find out that evolution of democratic culture in Pakistan is
*inter alia* strongly linked to a just and satisfactory resolution of the
Kashmir issue. And deepening of democratic culture in Pakistan is the
critical link to peace and stability in the region. The incumbent democratic
regime of Pakistan is at the moment precariously pressed between the too
powerful Army, on the one hand, and radical Islamists, on the other. That's
a matter of serious concern calling for serious intervention.]



I/II.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=HomePage&id=b36cff44-e1b3-4620-99ab-4524e231e480&MatchID1=4924&TeamID1=4&TeamID2=2&MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1244&PrimaryID=4924&Headline=US%2c+India%2c+Pakistan+face+common+terror+threat%3a+Holbrooke


*Indo-Asian News Service*
New Delhi, February 16, 2009
First Published: 15:59 IST(16/2/2009)
Last Updated: 16:55 IST(16/2/2009)
US, India, Pakistan face common terror threat: Holbrooke


US special envoy Richard Holbrooke held talks with External Affairs Minister
Pranab Mukherjee Monday and underlined that terrorism poses a "direct
threat" to India, Pakistan and the US.

"India, the US and Pakistan all have a common threat now: an enemy which
poses a direct threat to our leadership, people and capitals," Holbrooke
told reporters after talks with Mukherjee.

"I carry no messages. I just wanted to hear the views of India on a wide
range of issues," Holbrooke replied when asked about the nature of his
discussions with Mukherjee.

Holbrooke, US special representative to Pakistan and Afghanistan, shared
with Mukherjee his assessment of the situation in Pakistan and Afghanistan,
the countries he visited before coming to India on the last leg of a
regional tour Sunday night.

The Mumbai terror attacks figured prominently in the discussions with India
pressing the US to sustain pressure on Pakistan to bring the perpetrators of
the carnage to justice, official sources said. The two sides also discussed
the volatile situation in Afghanistan and ways of combating a resurgent
Taliban.

Holbrooke's visit marks the first high-level contact between India and the
US after Barack Obama became president over three weeks ago.

Lauding US Ambassador David Mulford for his role in transforming India-US
ties, Holbrooke said he had been fascinated by India since he was a young
American growing up in New York.

The US has played a significant role in pressuring Pakistan, with the
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) closely tracking the Mumbai attacks
that killed 173 people, including six Americans.

Holbrooke's trip to India coincided with the disclosure in an American daily
that the CIA -- by "orchestrating back-channel intelligence exchanges"
between the two neighbours -- played a key role in Pakistan's admission that
its citizens were involved in the Mumbai terror attacks.
II.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-afpak-mandate/423956/

The Af-Pak mandate
*C Raja Mohan* Posted online: Feb 16, 2009 at 0431 hrs


**In helping the US Special Envoy Richard Holbrooke succeed in his
diplomatic mission, India can help itself in containing the growing security
challenges from the north-western marches of the subcontinent. What
Washington now calls "Af-Pak", shorthand for Holbrooke's mandate on
Afghanistan and Pakistan, is quite familiar to India as the turbulent
territory between the Indus and the Hindu Kush, which for millennia has been
the principal source of India's external security threats.

New Delhi's initial wariness about the Holbrooke mission appears to have
turned into recognition of the rare strategic opportunity that it presents,
for three good reasons.

One, Holbrooke was quick to sense that including the Kashmir dispute in his
mandate would constrain his room for diplomatic manoeuvre. That Holbrooke
got Washington to see the paradox — New Delhi's exclusion from the formal
mandate is necessary to make it Washington's partner — suggests the special
envoy might be adding subtlety to his awesome reputation as a diplomatic
bulldozer.

Two, New Delhi knows that Holbrooke has been ordered by President Barack
Obama to end Washington's tribal warfare on making the Af-Pak policy. The
notorious power of his bureaucratic elbows means, Holbrooke would have a big
role in shaping the Obama administration's South Asia policy. New Delhi will
therefore find in Holbrooke a powerful and influential interlocutor during
the Obama years.

Three, Holbrooke has already demonstrated the clout to force major changes
on the ground. Few in New Delhi doubt that last week's dramatic turn-around
in Pakistan's position on the Mumbai attacks everything had to do with the
pressure that Holbrooke had begun to mount on Islamabad.

There is no doubt in New Delhi that India and the United States have shared
political interests in stabilising Afghanistan and Pakistan, preventing the
further growth of the Taliban across the Durand Line, and promoting economic
prosperity and political modernity in the trans-Indus territories.

Common interests do not necessarily lead to coordinated policies among
nations. New Delhi, then, must find ways to work with Holbrooke in the
coming months and years in expanding areas of agreement and cooperation
while minimising the inevitable tensions.

As New Delhi begins a dialogue with Holbrooke this week, there is no
under-estimating its historic significance. Never in the past six decades
have New Delhi and Washington had an honest conversation on Pakistan — a
source of enduring contention in the bilateral relations between India and
the US rather than a theatre for political and security cooperation.

As Holbrooke's first trip to the region draws the inputs for a comprehensive
restructuring of the US strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the outlines
of which will be known by April, India must be unreserved in its offer to
help Holbrooke win. India's potential cooperation with the US could be
wide-ranging. It could extend, for example, strong support to President
Obama's effort to craft a new regional approach to the problems in
Afghanistan.

New Delhi should also welcome Washington's efforts to mend fences with
Moscow and begin negotiations with Tehran. The easing of US tensions with
Russia and Iran — neither would want to see the triumph of the Taliban in
Afghanistan — would generate new options for Washington and New Delhi. India
must offer money and men to build new transportation corridors into
Afghanistan, of the kind it has already developed through Iran, in order to
reduce the US dependence on the Pakistan army for supplies to its troops in
Afghanistan.

Although the Bush administration welcomed India's economic involvement, it
actively discouraged India from embarking on security cooperation with
Afghanistan by citing Pakistan's concerns. New Delhi would want to know if
Holbrooke has a different view. Short of sending troops, New Delhi can to
contribute in a variety of other ways to stabilise Afghanistan — from large-
scale training of armed forces to assistance in the creation of an Afghan
air force, from supplying non-lethal military equipment to sending
volunteers for local reconstruction in Afghan provinces. Instead of begging
its feckless European allies for small, symbolic and ineffective
contributions, the US could find in India a valuable partner to devising
credible security structures for Afghanistan.

For his part, Holbrooke would surely want to know what New Delhi could do to
make it easier for the US and the international community to pacify the
Af-Pak region. The Indian answers are likely to be less complicated than
most analysts might imagine. Over the last few years, India has engaged
Pakistan in an intensive negotiation on resolving the Kashmir conflict. That
dialogue has stalled because Pakistan's military establishment has not only
gone back on its promise to end anti-India terror but also chosen to step up
the sophistication of cross-border violence as we saw in Mumbai.

Holbrooke should have no difficulty seeing the simple Indo-Pak bargain that
awaits closure — a verifiable end to the terror infrastructure in Pakistan
leading to conflict resolution and normalisation of relations with India.
The strategic trick in the subcontinent is no longer about reconciling the
national interests of Kabul, Islamabad and New Delhi. The elected leaders in
the three countries see their main security threats coming from the same
source: jihadi terrorism.

The most difficult regional task is about ending the army's power to define
Pakistan's national security objectives towards Afghanistan and India and
its more than three decade old alliance with extremist groups to achieve its
aims.

If Holbrooke is prepared walk the American policy in that direction, he
might find India an enthusiastic partner in changing Pakistan's
civil-military relations, helping Washington redirect Islamabad's energies
against the Taliban and the al-Qaeda, and restoring the strategic unity of
the north-western subcontinent.

*The writer is a professor at S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore*



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