 The Revenge Of The Near The 11/26 attack on India was no 9/11—and India's reaction must also be different from America's. Sunil Khilnani From the magazine issue dated Feb 9, 2009 Urban Indians love the idea of a global, borderless world, where flows of trade and services trace virtual geographies. Who can blame them? Colonial mapmaking left India broken and flanked by two unviable, antagonistic states: Pakistan and Bangladesh. Also in the neighborhood are despotic Burma, precarious Afghanistan and war-torn Sri Lanka. It's enough to make anyone search for an escape. Before the Mumbai attacks, that escape seemed possible. India's elites believed that free-market economics and an international outlook would let them transcend location, poverty and intractable politics. In recent years, India's prime minister, Manmohan Singh, had made this approach the core of his policies. The Singh doctrine, as it might be called, was one of nonconfrontational economic diplomacy, seeking to expand India's global connections in order to spur growth and personal affluence, which in turn would defuse internal and external conflicts. The effort seemed to work, at least for a time. After charting around 8 percent annual growth for the last five years, last fall India became the first postcolonial state to successfully complete a moon mission. And in October, after signing an agreement with Washington, New Delhi gained admission into the world's most powerful club: that of legitimate nuclear powers. Then came the terrorist attack that began in Mumbai on the night of Nov. 26, literally and metaphorically targeting the five-star oases where the rich network and relax. The men who arrived in India's most global city from Pakistan aboard rubber boats represented, among other things, a revenge of the near. Within hours, they revealed that India's dream of escape might be a delusion. Actual location, it turns out, still matters more than the virtual one. There are limits to economic diplomacy—and India's security will depend on recognizing them. Halfway through the siege of the Taj and Oberoi hotels and of the Jewish Centre at Nariman House, one major TV station began headlining its reports with the phrase "India's 9/11." But the analogy didn't hold. There were some similarities—the targets were iconic buildings and the attacks captivated world attention—but the comparison oversimplified a situation whose implications are potentially much more threatening for India than those faced by the United States. September 11 was an attack by men from afar, whose message had little resonance with Americans. The Mumbai attackers came from next door, the world's largest Islamic republic and the chief global exporter of radical Islam, and they arrived in a country with just as many Muslims of its own.. The Mumbai attacks were less like 9/11 than like a man-made Katrina: a calamity preceded by many warnings (among them bombings last year in several cities) and followed by government bungling. At the time of the attacks, many Mumbai police were armed only with bamboo sticks. Of those who had guns, many didn't know how to fire them. Commandos had to be called in from the north, since none were stationed in India's financial capital. The failure of so many public-sector agencies provoked little surprise in Mumbai's poorer quarters, where residents are well acquainted with government shortcomings. But urban elites sputtered with outrage. Though some of this was directed toward Pakistan, most of it was aimed inward. Imagine if after 9/11, New Yorkers had taken to the streets to protest against firefighters and Rudy Giuliani, and you get a sense of what this felt like. Suddenly a class that preferred to pursue its interests through connections and money, that relied on private security and electrical generators, was reminded of the need for government and the role of the state. These protesting elites have shaken India's leaders. Singh has finally rid himself of his inane home minister and replaced him with the respected P. Chidambaram, a former finance minister, who has begun to address the disarray in India's security apparatus. He has streamlined the jumble of intelligence agencies, which report to different authorities and which proved unable to coordinate or correctly interpret intelligence in the weeks before the attacks. New Delhi has established a new National Intelligence Agency focused exclusively on terrorism, and Chidambaram plans to visit Washington to study U.S. counterterrorism strategy. A new antiterrorism law has also been passed that allows detainees to be held for up to six months without trial, denies bail to non-Indian subjects and invokes a sweeping definition of terrorism. But the task of truly reforming India's security system is too large to be accomplished before the next national election, which must be held by May. India still desperately needs improved coordination between New Delhi and the state governments and wholesale reform of its corrupt and dysfunctional police. Another urgent step has barely been discussed: the need to ensure that the motivating rage of the Pakistani attackers does not come to be widely shared by India's own Muslims. This won't be easy, for India's Muslims have reason to feel aggrieved.. The terrorists at the Taj claimed to be motivated by Kashmir and the government-linked violence against Muslims in Gujarat in 2002, when several thousand died. More than six years later, the perpetrators still roam free; many of the accused even hold office. This has weakened Muslims' faith in India's commitment to the rule of law. Addressing these flash points quickly is crucial. But addressing symbolic wrongs won't be enough. As a government commission documented in 2006, the conditions of India's Muslims are dire. Although they represent 13.4 percent of the population, they make up only 4 percent of its undergraduates, 5 percent of government employees and 7 percent of legislators. Nearly 40 percent of urban Muslims live in poverty, a larger number than even the worst-off Hindu castes. Improving their prospects must begin with early intervention: helping more Muslim children, especially girls, attend school. And it must extend to policies that seek to link them to India's growing economy—by granting them easier access to credit, for example. Yet even if India were able to resolve these internal issues, it's still unlikely terrorism would cease. That's because India's largest problem lies just beyond its threshold—in Pakistan. Pakistan today vexes much of the world, but it most endangers both India's immediate security and its future development. To many of Pakistan's radicals, India is even more threatening than America, the Great Satan. India is democratic, secular, culturally similar to Pakistan—and right next door. It is also an easier target than the United States. Despite these many dangers, so far India has refused to respond to 11/26 with a wave of militarism—another contrast with America after 9/11. While the Indian home minister has given Islamabad and Washington a dossier cataloging Pakistani links to the attackers, the war spirit in India has thus far been relatively muted. This speaks less to India's national temperament than to a paucity of options. Indians are generally unwilling to address the problem of Pakistan head on, preferring to leave their nemesis to its chief paymaster and handler, Washington. This approach has generally suited the United States, since it has a major stake in restraining India's responses. Indian diplomats have tried to mobilize international pressure on Pakistan and asked for the extradition of 20 suspects. Yet more than two months after the attacks, these efforts have produced little. Still, there's plenty more India could and should do; it has far more options besides all-out military action or the continuation of a rather fruitless dialogue with successive Pakistani governments.. India needs to develop a richer repertoire of policies. And building that repertoire must start from the premise that it is increasingly implausible to treat Pakistan as a sovereign state. If there ever was such a unified entity, it no longer exists. Pakistan is in multiple wars with itself, fractured between its civilian government, its powerful military, the intelligence services and a proliferating array of armed extremist groups. Pakistan's leaders have thrived by two basic tactics: threatening that all will go to the dogs if they are ousted (Musharraf reaped rich rewards from the United States with this line) and pleading that the government is new and fragile and must be given a chance to get on course (the current line of President Asif Ali Zardari). But in more than 60 years, Pakistan has never been able to establish a normal pattern of governance or to assert sovereignty over its own territory. India's most urgent task will thus be to minimize the degree to which Pakistan can pose threats—to its neighbors, to Europe and the United States and, finally, to itself. That will require India to work more assertively with the West, and to work both with and—where necessary—against Pakistan. It will also require the United States to pay greater heed to India's interests. Investing in the fragile Zardari regime is probably futile. The military dominates Pakistan, and it is the generals whom India must convince to stop supporting terrorism. Compared with the United States after 9/11, India has reacted to the Mumbai attacks with restraint. But if 11/26 inspires reform only to India's security infrastructure, an important lesson will have been missed. The siege of Mumbai revealed serious deficits in India's political judgment—in the nation's treatment of its Muslims and its relations with the region. If India hopes to protect itself in the days ahead and to continue its economic ascent, a stiff dose of realism will be needed. Succeeding in a globalized world is a lofty aspiration. But India still lives in the gritty here and now, a fact its governments and citizens cannot wish away. Khilnani is the author of "The Idea of India" and director of South Asian studies at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies. http://www.newsweek.com/id/182538
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Talking of Mr. Boucher, Shri Pranab and Gen Moeen Foreign relations have been the talk of the town as well as the recent book by the Army Chief by Maj Gen (Retd) Syed Muhammad Ibrahim, Bir Protik One The week beginning February 7-13 has been a busy week for the Government of Bangladesh. US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Mr. Richard Boucher was in Dhaka for a short two-day visit. Mr. Pranab Mukherjee the redoubtable foreign minister of India was in Dhaka for a shorter visit on February 9. For about two weeks preceding the visits, the Bangladeshi media was ripe with anticipation, apprehension and speculation about the outcome of these visits, based on whatever various Bangladeshi ministers were saying in the media and dear readers, believe it or not, the honorable Ministers were saying more than enough. There have been many talk-shows in the electronic media, and columns written in the print media. Readers and viewers are reasonably aware of the interaction between the US diplomat and Indian foreign minister during their respective visits. The outcome is also very well-known. We will dwell on these subjects only as matter of courtesy. Mr. Boucher had discussion with the foreign minister, home minister and prime minister of Bangladesh. He had a courtesy meeting with the leader of the opposition in the parliament and former prime minister Begum Khaleda Zia also. Mr. Boucher's visit left behind food for thought on demarcation of our maritime boundary, the protection of Bangladesh's economic zone in the sea, capacity building for anti-terrorism programs in South Asia and trade and commerce between US and Bangladesh. The geographical limits of South Asia were enlarged couple of years ago to include Afghanistan as a member-state and to include few outsiders as observers. Recently the crisis in Afghanistan has been gaining greater attention than before. Pakistan which has been a frontline state against militancy once in the eighties and again after 9/11 in the current decade, seems to be losing the status and instead is becoming and inflicted or infected state itself; of-course from militancy. As the US forces get more and more involved in larger and larger numbers in Afghanistan, observers are apprehensive that the territory of Pakistan adjacent to Afghanistan will also become battle zone. It only means America's involvement in South Asia is on the increase. Further, because one of the two regional powers of South Asia i.e. Pakistan is becoming physically embroiled or to a degree even embattled, only India remains as the regional power. India has not been a frontline state so far, that does not mean "it will hold no line". Chances are that India will be major partner of America in stabilizing South Asia against militancy and terrorism as well as a pro US platform in the struggle or campaign against these phenomena. Bangladesh's prime concern is to have a national, regional and international environment where she can prosper economically. It is a very delicate balance that the Government of Bangladesh has to strike between the demands of national interest and national security on the one side and calls of international security and international cooperation on the other side. The present Government of Bangladesh has inherited congenial foreign policy from the previous two year long Caretaker Government. Shri Pranab Mukherjee visited Bangladesh while he was also carrying the burden of Prime Ministerial duties of his own country. The visit by the Indian foreign minister and that too with an important agenda very clearly indicates the open-hearted attitude of welcome as well as support to the newly elected Government of Bangladesh by the Government of India. Come what may on earth, Bangladesh and India have to live as neighbors. History (political or otherwise), binds these two countries together; but geography or nature as well binds them, albeit far more strongly than history. Men create and write history, but men can only react to nature. The compulsions of nature behold Bangladesh to the call of friendship, peace and cooperation with India. For Bangladesh India looms very large in economic, environmental and political specter where as Bangladesh is a small, mid profile matter of concern to India. This difference is understandable. The land mass comprising India, Bangladesh and Pakistan was once upon a time a single country called Hindustan or Bharat or India, the capital being Delhi. It will take another 20 to 30 years for a totally new generation of citizens and politicians cum businessman to be at the helm of affairs in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan without having any physical linkage to the past. Under the circumstances it is but natural that India and Bangladesh should cooperate for peaceful coexistence. Peace does not come on its own. There could be more but we identify at least 3 ingredients which will contribute to peace among communities. One, mitigation of hunger that is to say enough food; second, mitigation of emotion related self respect that is to say mutual respect for each other; third and last, safety of life and property. The relation between India and Bangladesh must be guided by these 3 ingredients if not more. If either of the parties demands these 3 ingredients to be satisfactory for itself, it must then simultaneously guarantee equal satisfaction of these 3 ingredients to the other party. All agreement between India and Bangladesh whether signed or to be signed need to be critically examined in the light of this hypothesis. Terrorism is a menace for most countries. Cooperation between India and Bangladesh is a must in the fight against terrorism. Indeed, to give this cooperation greater acceptability, the cooperation should be under a South Asian umbrella. Cooperation from countries outside South Asia is a bonus only. Cooperation is a greater compulsion in the areas of business and trade. Unfortunately there are more negative news then positive ones in this sector of India-Bangladesh relation. One example, going by print media reports, spinning and textile industries in Bangladesh are said to be set for destruction for wrong policies of the Government of Bangladesh in the name of cooperation with India. Soap, an item in cosmetics, which Bangladesh can export happily is being barred by various tiers of Indian authority is another example. Bangladesh is geographically far smaller than India, economically far weaker than India, militarily a no-comparison with India but emotionally determined to pitch a tough game. It is a jigsaw puzzle not so easy to solve. The immediate past Government of Bangladesh barely laid the foundation of a new chapter of India-Bangladesh-American relationship, hopefully to be strengthen by the Awami League Government. For various reasons, it was foregone conclusion by, as early as, June 2008 that Awami League should be elected to the power by the people, should be pulled to power by those who can pull and should be blessed to be in power by those who have the charisma to bless. Footnote is, blessing is also a matter of regional and global cooperation. Two The past two weeks have also been notable and busy because of something unprecedented in Bangladesh. To bring the military or the intelligence community under open criticism inside or outside the Parliament was at taboo thus long. This time members of the current parliament as well as past members have been launching almost frontal attacks on the Caretaker Government (CG) as a body, the Chief Advisor and some of the Advisors of the CG in person, the Anti Corruption Commission (ACC) as a body, the Chairman of the ACC in person, the Bangladesh Military as a body, officers of Bangladesh Army as a group, the Chief of Army Staff of Bangladesh Army General Moeen U Ahmed in person, the Directorate General of Forces Intelligence (DGFI) as a body and lastly on the immediate past President of Bangladesh Prof. Iajuddin Ahmed for his or their activities in the past two years. The battering started slowly and gradually but a book written by General Moeen U Ahmed acted like fuel to a fire. More on the book, little later. Writing memoirs by elderly politicians, renowned diplomats and veteran generals is nothing new in the world or even in South Asia. Bangladesh definitely lags behind India and Pakistan in this regard. One does not have to be sorry about it, because as a country Bangladesh is the youngest among the three. The heredity and aristocracy among politicians, diplomats and Generals is oldest in India, followed by Pakistan and ends with Bangladesh. As far as military generals are concerned, as of this month, the number of (four-star and three-star) Generals who have retired will be less than ten. (Two-star) Maj Gen including doctors will number around sixty. Till the tenure of Gen Mustafizur Rahman as chief of Bangladesh Army, the present day rank of Brig Gen was known as Brigadier only. The number of Brig Gens leading retired life is more than 150. Among these retired Generals, only few could create a niche for themselves in the intellectual arena or in the elitist academia. Brig Gen Abdul Hafiz who retired as Director General (DG) of BIISS, singly or jointly edited nearly a dozen books mostly in the field of International relations or International Security. Brig Gen Hafiz has been a regular columnist also. Brig Gen Shahedul Anam Khan also retired as DG of BIISS and is currently a senior journalist. He writes regular columns mostly in English though. Brig Gen Sakhawat Hossain took to writing columns gradually after his retirement. He has more than eight books to his credit, most of which deal with international and national security. Maj Gen Manzur Rashid Khan and Brig Gen Shamsuddin Ahmed also write columns and have more than one book each to their credit. Maj Gen Moinul Hossain Chowdhury, BB, Maj Gen Subid Ali Bhuiyan, MP, Maj Gen Abdul Matin, BP also write columns but very sparingly; they have one or two books to their respective credit. Brig Gen Shafaat, Air Commodore Ishfaq Ilahi and Commodore Khurshid also write columns mostly in English language dailies. Maj Gen KM Safiullah, BU, Maj Gen Imamuzzaman, BB, Maj Gen Nurun Nabi, Maj Gen Abdul Wahab. Lt Col Abu Osman Chowdhury, Lt Col SIM Nurun Nabi Khan, BB, Maj Nasir Uddin, Brig Gen Khalequzzman Chowdhury and Maj Rafiqual Islam, BU, MP have all written books reminiscing the War of Liberation. Number of other officers also write columns in Bangla language print media in Dhaka or other major cities of the country and have also written books. Lt Col Mahmudur Rahman Chowdhury is the editor of the second most influential English language daily of Dhaka namely The Bangladesh Today; a rare achievement and credit. As an editor he writes commentaries which are also neat essays on political, social and security matters. I must hasten to apologise to those military officers whose name or names I may have missed, unintentionally. However, among retired military officers it is Maj Gen Ibrahim who could be credited for breaking the ice and almost being the pathfinder in writing columns. He began with and continued mostly in, Bangla language dailies of Dhaka. Ibrahim also had retired from the chair of DG of BIISS. It was in 1998 that General Ibrahim lent his pen massively and intimately to the most circulated daily of Dhaka Prothom Alo, in its first 60 days. In the process, Prothom Alo also popularized him as a column writer. Soon Jugantor made the debut and again General Ibrahim was with it for 36 consecutive days in the first two months. General Ibrahim's first ever book Senabahinir Abhayntare Athash Bachar meaning 28 years inside the Army was published by Mowla Brothers in February 1999. The second book An Evaluation of the Peace Process and the Situation in Chittagong Hill Tracts was also published by Mowla Brothers in February 2001. General Ibrahim's ninth book in Bangla language The Battles of Islam was published by Anannya publishers in February 2009. The narrative in the previous paragraphs gives an idea about retired military officers delving into the world of writings. Among the serving officers also, tendency to write is discernible but the process of getting a book written by a serving military officer published, is time consuming and laborious. I will talk of them sometime in future, except for the book written by the Chief of Army Staff General Moeen U Ahmed, and published recently. Three At the very outset I must clarify that like most of the retired officers who had been senior to Gen Moeen U Ahmed we maintain mutually respectful professional relationship. At the end of the nine-month training, I was commissioned in September 1970 from the Pakistan Military Academy (PMA) Kakul as the best all-round cadet of the course (or the first boy of the class) and was awarded the prestigious 'Commander-in-Chief's Cane', which was the coveted prize for the first boy. In PMA the first boy of a two year long regular course would be awarded the 'Sword of Honor', while the first boy of a short or war course would be awarded the 'Commander-in-Chief's Cane'. The Bangladesh Military Academy (BMA) was established in 1974, in Comilla. It moved to Bhatiary 10 miles north from the city-centre in Chittagong in early 1976. The BMA ran seven short courses before beginning with long or regular courses. I was a group testing officer (GTO) in the Army Selection Board (forerunner of ISSB) which selected cadets for the first and second short course ran in the BMA. The one year long first short course in BMA began on 9th January in 1974 and the participants or cadets were commissioned on 11th January 1975. The first boy of this course was one ATM Zahirul Alam, now a Lieutenant General and serving as an ambassador abroad. The system of PMA Kakul was changed for the better and Zahir was awarded the 'Sword of Honor'. The second boy of the course who was awarded the 'Commander-in-Chief's Cane' was one Moeen Uddin Ahmed, now the honorable Chief of Bangladesh Army and a four star General. Sometime after 1994 the name got of the respected General got abbreviated in the American style to Moeen U Ahmed. Gen Moeen has maintained his professional distinction all along. I myself attended The Royal Staff College in England and upon return joined the defense services command and staff college (DSCSC) in Mirpur Cantonment in Dhaka as an instructor (in army's jargon : Directing Staff or DS) where I served between January 1984 and January 1987 for 37 months. It was a pleasure having the-then Maj Moeen Uddin Ahmed as a student in 1985. He was bright and excelled many others. Upon return from America where I attended an eleven month long course in the US Army War College, I was immediately appointed the Director of Military Operations in the Army Headquarters of Bangladesh Army, in June 1989. My immediate subordinate colleagues were two Lt Cols as general staff officer grade one. The-then Lt Col Moeen Uddin Ahmed was number two in order of seniority between the two, but was in-charge of the most important section. He was a meritorious colleague who contributed much to the successful working of the Military Operations Directorate. Having said this much, I venture to comment on the book written by Gen Moeen and published only few days ago. The name of the book is Shanteer Shopne Shomoyer Sriteecharon. The book has been written very well, printed very well, bound very well and launched very well. The book has three major sections and fourth one is a very tiny section. The first section has six chapters, the second section has twenty two sections and the third section -- titled one eleven -- has seven sections. The third section talks of the most contemporary politico administrative matters of Bangladesh namely 'how did Bangladesh Army get involved in the twenty four months long Caretaker Government under Dr. Fakhruddin Ahmed.' As a citizen witnessing the events of the country unfold, I can appreciate that all the truth may not been told; on the other hand only witness and close colleagues of the General can say whether all that has been told is THE TRUTH. In my view February 2009 is too close on the heels of the past Caretaker Government for all the truth to be told, at least in terms of information; and in that logic, my remark is that the General should not have included the third section or at least the first chapter of the third section which talks of the background to 'one eleven'. Now that the book has been published, it has opened the door for readers of the book and other citizens to come out critically about not only the contents of the book, but also the writer of the book. Only as example two references out of many are mentioned: Bangla language daily Amader Shomoy dated February 10 and 11. The unpleasantness is that, General Moeen as a man is less important; the chair of the Chief of Army Staff which he holds is important and honorable. The book has rendered the Chief as well as the Army of which he is the Chief vulnerable to avoidable criticism. The matter is like stirring up a hornet's nest. Field Marshal Mohammad Ayub Khan while the President of Pakistan wrote a book titled Friends Not Masters but that was almost eight years after he had taken over as the Chief Martial Law Administrator of Pakistan. (Four star) General Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan wrote a book titled In the Line of Fire while still serving simultaneously as the President of Pakistan as well as the Chief of Army Staff of Pakistan Army. Readers of this column are welcome to read General Moeen U Ahmed's book and acquaint with information hitherto unknown!! We will also continue to read the book. n Maj Gen Ibrahim has been writing columns for almost a decade, mostly in leading Bengali-language newspapers and magazines. He is a valiant decorated freedom fighter of Bangladesh War of Liberation 1971. He is a graduate of The Royal Staff College UK, The US Army War College and holds Master Degree in Defense Studies. Since December 2007 he is in politics too. He has authored and as edited number of books and is currently a PhD researcher in the University of Dhaka. Interaction: mgsmibrahim@yahoo.com http://www.probenewsmagazine.com/index.php?index=2&contentId=4839 |
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| Local development to sink in MP meddling:Roundtable urges govt to ratify local govt ordinances for democracy's sake Demanding immediate ratification of the local government ordinances promulgated by the caretaker government, experts and newly elected upazila officials yesterday said if members of the parliament (MP) are allowed to meddle in the affairs of upazila parishads, that will be a violation of the constitution. 
Strong local governments are a prerequisite for good governance and balanced economic development, they said adding that an effective local government commission (LGC) is also a must for a strong local government system.
They fear local administrations might be rendered ineffective and law makers might end up lording over upazila parishads, running the risk of letting corruption creep into the system, if MPs are allowed to have their previous controlling authority over the elected local governments.
Suggesting formulation of a policy specifying the duties of the chairmen, vice-chairmen, and women vice-chairmen of upazila parishads without further delay, they said the role of bureaucrats in relation to local governments should also be redefined in order to make upazila parishads functional.
"It will be a violation of articles 59 and 60 of the constitution, if lawmakers are allowed to have authority over local governments," said Badiul Alam Majumder, secretary of Shushashoner Janney Nagorik (Shujan), adding that the move will also go against court verdicts on the matter.
The opinions came from a roundtable titled 'Making Upazila Parishad Operational: Challenges and Prospect', arranged by The Daily Star in the conference room of its headquarters, with participation of 23 newly elected upazila chairmen, vice-chairmen and women vice-chairmen from six divisions of the country, and governance experts.
The elected upazila officials expressed their worries about whether they will be able to work without any outside interference, if the central government's move to not ratify the local government ordinances successfully passes through the parliament.
They said feuds between MPs and upazila parisahad officials are likely to erupt, if lawmakers are allowed to interfere with the functioning of the parishads.
The parishads will face serious difficulties if the MPs are provided with offices in upazila parishad complexes, they said adding, it might also disrupt local development.
Interference of MPs with the functioning of the local government has been blatant, they said alleging that lawmakers want to get involved in upazila level development because an enormous amount of money is circulated through the local development circuit.
"We want the ordinances to become laws, so we may work without any outside interference," said Asaduzzaman Asad, a new vice-chairman elected to Natore Sadar upazila parishad.
Strengthening the local government system was one of the electoral pledges of Awami League (AL), its President Sheikh Hasina in one of her books also emphasised on a strong local government system for ensuring development and poverty reduction.
LGC Chairman Muhammad Faizur Razzaque said it is possible to enact rules, if necessary, even after ratifying the ordinances."LGC was preparing a proposal on power decentralisation, we should consider whether a local government service structure could be formed, which would start at the union parishad level," he said.
Upazila parishads will remain, even if the ordinances are not ratified, he said adding, "LGC will be with local government representatives, if the commission is allowed to exist."
Prof Muzaffer Ahmad, president of Shujan, said it is possible to set up offices for MPs in the parliament complex, so why offices should be set up for them in upazila parishad complexes.
The ministry concerned or LGC will have to formulate rules, in a participatory manner, specifying the duties and responsibilities of local government institutions, he added.
He also said the revenue sources of upazila parishads should be protected from political interference, and the role of bureaucracy in local governance also need to be readjusted, as the people want to see a strong local government.
Prof Tofael Ahmed, a member of LGC, said the local government ordinances promulgated by the caretaker government should be ratified, albeit after removing inconsistencies in it, if there is any, for removing the uncertainty the local government system is facing right now.
But, the ratification must be upon discussions with the elected local representatives, he added.Awami League (AL) and BNP both talked much about a strong LGC, but now none of them wants it anymore, he said adding that the commission should exist, but its officials could be changed, if needed.
Prof Tofael suggested that the chairmen and vice-chairmen of upazila parishads work on the basis of consensus among them for strengthening democracy.
Another LGC Member Hedayetul Islam Chowdhury said remote areas and areas where opposition leaders were elected as representatives should get protection through a specific policy. "Who will formulate the policy when there will be no commission?" he quipped.
"MPs are not made advisers to city corporations, so why they should become advisers to upazila parishads?" he questioned again, adding that a decision has to be taken whether upazila parishads will work as institutions of governance.
Terming the authority of MPs over upazila parishads 'unconstitutional', Shujan Secretary Badiul Alam Majumder said MPs like to meddle in upazila parishads, so they can thwart emergence of competitors at the local level.
"The local government system is a part of the fundamental structure of the constitution, and so it cannot be changed by formulating new laws," he said adding, any indirect authority of MPs over local governments will also be in contradiction to the constitution and relevant court verdicts.
Dr Salahuddin M Aminuzzaman, professor of public administration at Dhaka University, said the upazila ordinance should be placed in the parliament with amendments, if needed, and should be ratified in the current session.
He also said a parliamentary committee on local government affairs should also be constituted immediately to suggest new guidelines for strengthening the local government system with particular focus on upazila parishads.
Dr Salahuddin suggested forming a task force to assist LGC for ensuring pragmatic criteria for disbursement of government development grants, and developing a regulatory mechanism for making the bureaucracy accountable to elected upazila parishads.
Ruling parties' secretaries-general should never be appointed as the LGRD minister, he added.Sheela Tasneem Haq, director (election programme) of The Asia Foundation, said women's representation in upazila parishads show that they will reach the parliament one day.She emphasised the need for creating awareness among elected women representatives about their duties and responsibilities.
Gazi Abdul Hadi, chairman of Dumuria Upazila Parishad in Khulna, said the Election Commission is yet to publish the gazette of the election results even though 26 days have passed since the polls to upazila parishads were held."People gave us the mandate to serve them and we want to do so, but it seems the upazila parishads are being made ineffective by changing the upazila parishad ordinance," he said.
Abul Kalam Azad, chairman of Uzirpur Upazila Parishad in Barisal, said he would file a case if any decision is made that weakens the upazila parishads.
Suraiya Begum, vice-chairman of Betagi Upazila Parishad in Barguna, said, "The new government is trying to abolish the LGC changing the rules…this is suicidal."
She said to strengthen the local government bodies it should be kept free from all kinds of political and economical interferences.Khan Mohammad Rustom Ali, vice-chairman of Bhandaria Upazila Parishad in Pirojpur, said, "We want lawmakers to enact laws not interfere in our work."
All women vice-chairmen present at the roundtable demanded that administrative security and transportation service for them be ensured. They also demanded equal facilities for chairmen and vice-chairmen.
There should be coordination between the chairmen and vice-chairmen to ensure smooth running of the parishad, said Noor Alam Sheikh, vice-chairman of Mongla Upazila Parishad in Khulna.
Moderating the roundtable, The Daily Star Editor Mahfuz Anam said a strong and truly effective local government is a must for the country as there is no alternative to strong local government for spreading democratic practice all over the country as well as economic development..
The local government has to be given its dignity and it has to be brought to the centre of the development process, he added.
Dewan Zainul Zakerin, chairman of Sunamganj Sadar Upazila Parishad, Ataur Rahman, chairman of Godagari Upazila Parishad in Rajshahi, Khairul Kabir Khokan, chairman of a upazila parishad in Netrakona, Humayun Islam Kamal, vice-chairmen of Golapganj Upazila Parishad in Sylhet, Shamima Shahriar, vice-chairman of Jamalganj Upazila Parishad in Sylhet, Rockeya Khatun, vice-chairman of Habiganj Sadar Upazila Parishad, Shova Rani, vice-chairman of Mothbaria Upazila Parishad in Pirojpur, Sajeda Begum, vice-chairman of Hathazari Upazila Parishad in Chittagong, Akhtar Jahan Laki, vice-chairman of Atrai Upazila Parishad in Naogaon, Shova Rani Halder, vice-chairman of Dumuria Upazila Parishad in Khulna, Parul Begum, vice-chairman of Rupsha Upazila Parishad in Khulna, Zakir Hossain Selim, vice-chairman of Rangamati Sadar Upazila Parishad, Khaleda Akhtar Chowdhury, vice-chairman of Chandanaish Upazila Parishad in Chittagong, Fatema Monir, vice-chairman of Narayanganj Sadar Upazila Parishad, Kohinoor Islam, vice-chairman of Sonargaon Upazila Parishad in Narayanganj and Fazlul Haque, vice-chairman of Netrakona Sadar Upazila Parishad also spoke at the roundtable.
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Local govt ordinance and commission not to be passed
LGRD Minister Syed Ashraful Islam said the government is considering introducing village courts to relieve the formal courts from the burden of unimportant cases. After meeting with UN Assistant Secretary General Ajay Chhibber, he said "The formal courts are suffering from backlog of cases many of which have derived from trivial issues. If village courts can dispose of trivial cases, the courts will be able to concentrate on the serious cases."
In a query whether country's judicial system will be affected by introduction of village courts, he said petty family matters and minor land disputes which fall under the category of civil cases will be settled by village courts but no criminal case will be heard by those. But who will be appointed to those courts have not been finalised yet, he added.
It may be mentioned that last alliance government led by BNP took initiative to establish village courts but the attempt was foiled as the higher court declared it illegal and stayed the decision.
LGRD Minister gave an intimation that much-talked about Local Government Commission to regulate local government system will not come into being as local government ordinance providing for such commission will not be approved by the parliament.
He ruled out allegation that local government ordinance is going to be cancelled for curtailing powers of MPs to interfere in the local government activities and development projects under their respective constituencies.
"Local government ordinance will not be approved by the parliament not because of it being in conflict with the powers of MPs, rather the ordinance will not be endorsed simply because it was promulgated by the caretaker government beyond authority," he added.
Only three categories of ordinances involving public interest, finance and election will be ratified by the parliament, he said, adding "As per above parameter 54 ordinances will be passed while 68 ordinances including that of local government will be cancelled."
Ashraful Islam said local government will be governed by the local government ordinance 1998 which was adopted during the previous Awami League regime. But there will be some modifications in this ordinance to include the posts of vice chairman (male) and vice chairman (female) of upazila as they have been already elected in recently held upazila polls.
He stated that all offices under various ministries at the upazila level will be coordinated and brought under an optical fibre network with financial support of UN as discussed with UN delegates.
Meanwhile, former adviser of CG Sultana Kamal coming out of LGRD Minister's room said she along with foreign delegates of Chittagong Hill Tracts related international commission urged the minister to take step for full-fledged implementation of Chittagong Hill Tracts peace accord and they are hopeful of a significant progress in the matter within five years while the minister underlined the need for securitisation of laws in this regard.
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Rightly said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com> wrote: I think she did not know the meaning of "buffer" or she thought it was "butter". An Indian journalist "buttering" Bangladesh Foreign Minister what a great honor. A few years ago when a West Bengal Minister addressed Sk. Hasina, the then Prime Minister as "The Chief Minister of Bangladesh" she also did not protest. She thought it was great honor from the Bharatiya Dadas. SH Toronto
From: Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@earthlink.net>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
Dear Mr. Chowdhury: Unfortunately, it seems you are playing to the gallery just like a politician. It seems you are playing to our fears by just repeating someone else's account of what was said. I am unclear as to what exactly you are objecting to. The word buffer!!! Please provide the context in which the remark was made, what offends you and why it offends. Let us talk about it and take it up if it was real!! Otherwise it is neither here nor there and does not help in moving things forward. I think as a believer in Change Bangladesh, you must be able to look at every angle with no sacred cows. Surely you will agree with me on that. Or do you believe like many of us in Alochona that we know everything and only the OTHER has to change. Thats not the kind of change I want put my marbles in. In the wise words of that old fool Gandhiji (so many of us so-called MODERNS either are embarrased about as an old FOOL or disparage him as a Cunning HINDU) "You must be the change you want to see in the world". Robin Khundkar
http://www.blurtit. com/q587546. html Buffer statements are designed to soften the unfavorable news and establish some common ground with the receiver. Buffers are critical to the effectiveness of the indirect approach. Their use helps you to begin your communication on a positive note and to avoid an emphasis on the negative. A buffer state is a country lying between two rival or potentially hostile greater powers, which by its sheer existence is thought to prevent conflict between them. Buffer states when authentically independent typically pursue a neutralist foreign policy, which distinguishes them from satellite states. -----Original Message-----
From: "M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)"
Sent: Feb 11, 2009 10:26 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
"Bangladesh did not get the independent state through anyone's blessings. We achieved it through liberation war and we'll protect it at any cost," said AL spokesman Syed Ashraful Islam.
His attention drawn to an Indian journalist's query to Foreign Minister Dipu Moni, outrageously dubbing Bangladesh as a 'buffer state', he said the Foreign Minister could not guess the importance of the issue in the face of the insidious remark.
The Foreign Minister, a fresher in the job of dealing with diplomatic parlance, kept silent when Bangladeshi journalists wanted to know her reaction over the Indian journalist's salvo calling Bangladesh 'buffer state'.
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:52 AM
I don't quite understand the idiotic outrage over the phase "buffer state". It simply means a state that acts as a neutral "buffer" between two hostile countries. A buffer state can be a geographical and/or political buffer. Mongolia, for example, acts as a "buffer state" between the two very hostile states, Russia and China. It's sad that our foreign minister doesn't understand the meaning of a "buffer state", and nor do most of our populace. For years, India has acted as a "buffer state" between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Ever wonder why Myanmar military junta with a larger army (and lots of Chinese and North Korean weapons) than that of Bangladesh doesn't invade Bangladesh? Contrary to the original posting by Ms Chowdhury suggests, a buffer state is not a failed state, nor is it a proxy state. I am not sure how ISI is trying to prove Bangladesh is a failed state. Does anyone care to explain? If they are, does it really matter? At least we have a democratic government, no matter how inefficient it may be. What they have is a sham of a state, in-grown insurgency, stolen elections, military coups, and growing intolerance towards the seculars. Look up the words "lawless" and "failed state" in a dictionary, and you would see the map of Pakistan in it. Just my two cents, Cyrus
From: jahid russel <jahidrussel@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
do you guys know what is a buffer state?
--- On Tue, 2/10/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:33 AM
| She needs to step down for the sake of Bangladesh if she cares about Bangladesh. Regards, M M Chowdhury (Mithu), USA From: mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com>
Subject: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:33 PM
| Our so called well educated , harverd certified Madam Diu moni has agreed that Banladesh is a buffer state of pakistan অতীতে বাংলাদেশের স্বার্থ বিসর্জন দিয়ে হলেও আলীগ à¦ারতের সাথে যেসব চুক্তি করেছে তার কোনটাই দাদারা বাস্তবায়ন করেনি । à¦ারতের সাথে আলীগের চুক্তি মানেই বাংলাদেশের স্বার্থ বিসর্জন নয় কি ?সর্বশক্তি দিয়ে প্রতিরোধ করা কি নাগরিক দায়িত্ব নয় ?
--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com>
Subject: Pak Intelligence is trying to prove that Bangladesh is a failure country....
To: admin.bengalitimes@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:59 PM
Hi Dear/ Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence ISI is trying to prove that Bangladesh is a failure country.Is it true? International magazine News Week has published an exclusive report about Bangladesh. They said that Awami League has attached with Delhi. Do you want to know the details? The Canadian Bengali weekly Bengali Times current issue is in online now. Pls visit Bengali Times online issue and send your feedback. Bengali Times is always with you. Regards,
Sunity Chowdhury Sales and Publicity Weekly Bengali Times Toronto,Canada.
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how could a servient servant of the master Hindustaaaaaaaaaaan can object since do's and dont's are fixed in New Dilllllllllllllllli not Sudha sadan or gono bhobon ???????? This is the truth and nothing but the whole truth. So, no use bickering as we are enchained by the only best friend of BAL. Faruque Alamgir
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:08 AM, ezajur <ezajur.rahman@q8.com> wrote: Dear Alochoks
With the education that Dipu Moni has we can be confident she knows the meaning of the word buffer quite well.
Beyond technical definitions, the term buffer state can be used in a
neutral sense eg by the neutral Economist to describe any number of
political realities. The term can also be used in an offensive sense eg by partisan commentators to diminish opponents.
Whatever the case, no country confesses to being a buffer state in
public, on the world stage or to it's own people. The Indian FM would not allow India to be called a buffer state between China and the US - especially in front of Chinese or Indian leaders. There are several other obvious examples.
Lets's be clear: Dipu Moni's silence was mistaken but it was no
confession.
So why was Dipu Moni silent upon hearing Bangladesh called a
buffer state within her domain, with the media present and in front
of the Indian Foreign Minister?
I think she was simply startled or taken aback. It's not good enough
but it's no reason at all to bury her. No need for big attacks from BNP guys who never complained about Morshed Khan. And no need for big defences from AL guys who never complained about Abdus Samad Azad.
Proof: Imagine if the Indian FM had intervened, given Dipu Moni's
silence, and said that Bangladesh was not a buffer state. How
patronising would that be? He knows that and thats why he kept quiet. He would have wanted the Bangladesh FM to smartly answer the point and avoid any awkwardness for either of them.
Dipu Moni knows better now. It's okay - lets move on.
We should be more worried that her first big foreign policy idea -
the South Asian Anti Terrorist Task Force - was so effortlessly swept aside by India. Whether such a task force is a good idea or bad idea for us is a separate question. I thought India would have embraced the idea - even pushed Bangladesh to push for it. We need to preempt such rejections, as much as possible, in order to be taken more seriously.
May I allow my Khasloth to now overcome me again?
I would have preferred the term DUFFER STATE to the term buffer
state. Given that we want to partner with India against terrorism but we can't stop Indian soldiers shooting dead our citizens on our
borders. Given that students patronised by our government are busy
shooting each other in our universities. Given that we brag about our democracy but we would't recognize democratic behaviour if it came and kissed us deeply.
We can't control our stupid students - how the heck are we going to
work with India against cunning terrorists? Maybe we could make them
surrender by inviting them to read a new book called 1001 Bangladeshi Nights (Democratic Edition).
They'll die laughing. And I'll die crying.
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@...>
wrote:
>
> I think she did not know the meaning of "buffer" or she thought it
was "butter". An Indian journalist "buttering" Bangladesh Foreign
Minister what a great honor.
> A few years ago when a West Bengal Minister addressed Sk. Hasina,
the then Prime Minister as "The Chief Minister of Bangladesh" she
also did not protest. She thought it was great honor from the
Bharatiya Dadas.
>
> SH
> Toronto
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@...>
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:38:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister,
Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
>
>
> Dear Mr. Chowdhury:
> Unfortunately, it seems you are playing to the gallery just like a
politician. It seems you are playing to our fears by just repeating
someone else's account of what was said.
> I am unclear as to what exactly you are objecting to. The word
buffer!!!
> Please provide the context in which the remark was made, what
offends you and why it offends.  Let us talk about it and take it
up if it was real!! Otherwise it is neither here nor there and does
not help in moving things forward.
> I think as a believer in Change Bangladesh, you must be able to
look at every angle with no sacred cows. Surely you will agree with
me on that.
> Or do you believe like many of us in Alochona that we know
everything and only the OTHER has to change. Thats not the kind of
change I want put my marbles in.
> In the wise words of that old fool Gandhiji (so many of us so-
called MODERNS either are embarrased about as an old FOOL or
disparage him as a Cunning HINDU) "You must be the change you want to
see in the world".
> Robin Khundkar
>
>
> http://www.blurtit. com/q587546. html
> Buffer statements are designed to soften the unfavorable news and
establish some common ground with the receiver. Buffers are critical
to the effectiveness of the indirect approach. Their use helps you to
begin your communication on a positive note and to avoid an emphasis
on the negative.
> buffer state http://www.123exp- government. com/t/0377434540 2/
> A buffer state is a country lying between two rival or potentially
hostile greater powers, which by its sheer existence is thought to
prevent conflict between them. Buffer states when authentically
independent typically pursue a neutralist foreign policy, which
distinguishes them from satellite states.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)"
> Sent: Feb 11, 2009 10:26 AM
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister,
Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
>
>
> "Bangladesh did not get the independent state through anyone's
blessings. We achieved it through liberation war and we'll protect it
at any cost," said AL spokesman Syed Ashraful Islam.
>
> His attention drawn to an Indian journalist's query to Foreign
Minister Dipu Moni, outrageously dubbing Bangladesh as a 'buffer
state', he said the Foreign Minister could not guess the importance
of the issue in the face of the insidious remark.
>
> The Foreign Minister, a fresher in the job of dealing with
diplomatic parlance, kept silent when Bangladeshi journalists wanted
to know her reaction over the Indian journalist's salvo calling
Bangladesh 'buffer state'.
>
> --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister,
Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:52 AM
>
>
> I don't quite understand the idiotic outrage over the phase "buffer
state". It simply means a state that acts as a neutral "buffer"
between two hostile countries. A buffer state can be a geographical
and/or political buffer. Mongolia, for example, acts as a "buffer
state" between the two very hostile states, Russia and China. It's
sad that our foreign minister doesn't understand the meaning of
a "buffer state", and nor do most of our populace. For years, India
has acted as a "buffer state" between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Ever
wonder why Myanmar military junta with a larger army (and lots of
Chinese and North Korean weapons) than that of Bangladesh doesn't
invade Bangladesh?
>
> Contrary to the original posting by Ms Chowdhury suggests, a buffer
state is not a failed state, nor is it a proxy state. I am not sure
how ISI is trying to prove Bangladesh is a failed state. Does anyone
care to explain? If they are, does it really matter? At least we have
a democratic government, no matter how inefficient it may be. What
they have is a sham of a state, in-grown insurgency, stolen
elections, military coups, and growing intolerance towards the
seculars. Look up the words "lawless" and "failed state" in a
dictionary, and you would see the map of Pakistan in it.
>
> Just my two cents,
> Cyrus
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jahid russel <jahidrussel@ yahoo.com>
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:44:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister,
Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
>
>
> do you guys know what is a buffer state?
>
> --- On Tue, 2/10/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@
yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes
Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com,
dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@
yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-
bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups.
com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
> Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:33 AM
>
>
> She needs to step down for the sake of Bangladesh if she cares
about Bangladesh.
>
> Regards,
> M M Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
> www.changebanglades h.org
>
> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> From: mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd @yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam
dipu Moni's first performance
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com,
dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@
yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-
bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups.
com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
> Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:33 PM
>
>
>
>
> Â Our so called well educated , harverd certified Madam Diu moni
has agreed that Banladesh is a buffer state of pakistan
>
>
> http://www.amardesh bd.com/dailynews /detail_news_ index.php?
NewsID=211077&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home&LWG=QPVYWRJQ
>
>
> http://www.. jaijaidi n.com/details. php?nid=115960
>
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>
> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti
mes@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com>
> Subject: Pak Intelligence is trying to prove that Bangladesh is a
failure country....
> To: admin.bengalitimes@ gmail.com
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:59 PM
>
>
> Hi Dear/
> Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence ISIis trying to prove that
Bangladesh
> is a failure country.Is it true?
> International magazine News Weekhas published an exclusive reportÂ
> about Bangladesh. They said that Awami League has attached with
Delhi.Â
> Do you want to know the details?Â
> Pls click here www.thebengalitimes .comÂ
> The Canadian Bengali weekly Bengali Timescurrent issue is in online
now.
> Pls visit Bengali Timesonline issue and send your feedback.
> Bengali Timesis always with you.
> Regards,
>
> Sunity Chowdhury
> Sales and Publicity
> Weekly Bengali Times
> Toronto,Canada.
> www.thebengalitimes .comÂ
>
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