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Friday, February 27, 2009

[mukto-mona] Re: Find all the conspirators before they can hit again

Dear Mr. Guha,
 
It's not clear why you have started propagating your conspiracy theory and your idea of Jamat and SAKA connection. Jamat is a politically defeated entity and some of its leaders are now going to face war criminal charges and Jamat is not in a position to risk their existence as a whole, even by thinking about doing such conspiracy. Please give the Bangladesh government authority some time and let them figure out who were actually behind it and instigated the rebellion. Your idea is based on what you believe and please DO NOT try to impose your idea on everybody. Isn't it highly likely that a foreign government might have played major role in concerting this heinous rebellion which we all have to be ready to accept.

 
Thanks,


Dr. Shah Alam
President
Jalshaghar Entertainment
 
 
 
 


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Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: We have always been under military control

Beximco group owned by Salman Rahman, a politician and a loan defaulter. The total amount Beximco group defaulted is about 1000 crore which can be used to build at least fifty (50 * 20 crores each) Defense Officers Housing (DOHS) societies. He is among the hundreds of the politicians who secured billions through their political connections. Bangladesh has less than five Defense Officers Housing (DOHS) societies.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: We have always been under military control
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 12:44 PM

Shamim bhai...I agree with you completely. I have lots of family members who are (were) in the armed forces, and I feel the same way about them. Time has come to change the way defense forces are handled. But the question is, who is going to bell the cat? The army already has a reputation for staging coups and bloodshed, and any challenge to their status quo would mean that the honchos would deploy tanks and guns and protect their assets at all costs.


From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:42:32 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: We have always been under military control

Yes, probably Mr. Asafu Dowla and his colleagues did enjoyed there time so did the current Chief of army and his colleague. One third of prime residential areas in Dhaka city are enclosed in the name of Defense Officers Housing (DOHS). Go and see your self, the lavish housing owned by defense officers. Where they get the money to build these heavenly palaces? Army chief Moeen also used illegal means to build his palace while in power. Why only defense officers will acquire thousands of acres of prime land in the capital city alone.

 

Regrettably, they call them self OTONDRO PROHORI, prohori of what???!!! The nation knows what they did! Killing President not one but two, killing homemaker, children even pregnant women charging bayonet. Having blood bath with thousands of their own, this is what Bangladesh Army stands for! Since 1972 they did nothing, I repeat nothing for this nation while nation spent millions of dollars to keep them wealthy.

 

Bangladesh territorial boundaries are protected by BDR; Police and other law enforcing agencies protected our streets and Bangladesh Army went after lucrative UN jobs to make their cash, not because of the nation but because of their own personal gain. Other then that they tried to grab power thirty times in thirty-eight years since independence. Controlled our nation's destiny under their boots for more then 14 years out of 38 years.

 

Time has come and their deeds need to be accounted now.

 

Sincerely

Shamim Chowdhury

Maryland, USA
--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, maqsud omaba <maqsudo@...> wrote:
>
>
> " Do you think the two-year emergency rule was constitutional?
> The
> interim government was absolutely unconstitutional and unlawful. How
> can you continue a state of emergency for two years, keeping suspended
> the rights and liberties of the people? Do you know how much I
> personally suffered? My son lost his job; my daughter, who was the
> deputy attorney general, lost her job just because I was considered by
> that regime to be too vocal and critical; because I spoke too strongly
> and loudly.".... ......... ..Mr. asfuddowla, ex-Secretay.
>
> Mr. Dowla, what did you do...for the people of Bangladesh while enjoying prestigious public posts?
> How many times you protested..about so many inefficient, corrupt, dangerous ex- CSPs...and other senior
> officials, who looted money and later made a second career by sucking the toes of political leaders.
>
> You talk about democracy and human rights. What type and quality of democracy and human rights we practise in
> Bdesh?
>
> Is it not time for all the ex-CSPs and other ex- senior officials to spend some time and energy through
> community work? And provide opportunities to other younger, brighter, more talented people?
>
> While you were in office, you spent all your time to procure land in the best residential area+ to build
> a palace with stolen money.
>
> How many policies you created that had been helpful for community development and healthy economy?
> Have you ever said " THANKS"...to ordinary Bdeshis...for enjoying govt. scholarships. ..that are offered
> regularly to Bdeshi public servants by various international organizations?
>
> No, none of you did. You added some degrees to your name from foreign universities, stole money from public funds and sent your children overseas for education.
>
> And we the morons, the general public, have not created a system of accountability from you people, the powerful,
> ruthless, ill-mannered govt. officials.
>
>
> khoda hafez.
>
> dr. maqsud omar
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RE: [ALOCHONA] BDR Revolt is a long term damage to Bangladesh Future

it is sad that BDR soldiers expressed their anger + frustration in a violent and un-acceptble manner.
Lets pray for all those died/suffered.

It is also a wake-up call for a society, that is slowly degenerating.

The BDR soldeirs belong to a country, where citizens + govt. have DONE NOTHING since Jan 1971, to create a just, happy, well-balanced community.

It is a country full of CHAPABAZ, who demontrate their shallow patriotism on 21st. February without failure, who are champion of Baktreeta baji and nourish corruption, without any shame.

Getting selfish, greedy, ill-mannered person is norm in the society.

Even ordinary morons, earning less than Tk. 5000/ a month, spend their time + energy, to fascilitate corruption/ greed
of their beloved politicians + MPs.

Who can help this country??

dr. maqsud omar







To: cgmpservices@yahoo.com
From: cgmpservices@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:22:02 -0800
Subject: [ALOCHONA] BDR Revolt is a long term damage to Bangladesh Future

As more news are coming,  it does not seems a revolt for money or corruption,  it smelt big fish are involved.  Now all good citizen need to ask the following Questions:
 
1)  Who did conspirate this revolt?
 
2) What are the main motivation for this revolt?
 
3) Why is this a national issue?
 
4) How we can bring trust in BRD and Army?
 
5) How to bring the moral of BDR and Army up?
 
6) Need examplory punishment for those culprits?
 
7) How can we move on after this incident?
 
Regards,
M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), USA

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@yahoo.com>
Subject: BDR Revolt is a long term damage to Bangladesh Future
To: cgmpservices@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:05 PM


A complete assessment of BDR-Army Fighting, it's root cause and how to prevent it in future:
 
Dear All,
 
I am concern and uneasy to see the current BDR revolt which took many innocent lives in Bangladesh.  I do appreciate AL Govt including Minister Shahara for her candid and sincere work to resolve this standoff.
 
But I believe that Current Govt forgot the root cause why it happened and need soul searching so this kind of things do not happen anymore in Bangladesh.  This should be a lesson learned for BNP too.
 
Damage to Future:
 
1) Even this looks sporadic incident but this will carry heavy burden to Bangladesh years to come. International community will think Bangladesh like a Congo or Somali even though we have a "Title of  Democratic Govt".  This will create a panic to future foreign investment in Bangladesh and international communities.
 
2)  There might be a future uneasiness between BDR and Army which is a recipe for future disaster.  There will be a physiological war between two powerful forces in Bangladesh regardless which Govt in power ( AL or BNP).
 
3) If a conspirator wants to create a problem in Bangladesh, that conspirator will try to create uneasiness between BDR and Army to divide the country which is a recipe for civil war.  Look at Congo and other African Countries.
 
Root Cause of BDR Revolt:
 
1) Unequal pay and benefit based on ranks in BRD and Army.
 
2) Unequal distribution of corrupt money between BDR and Army.
 
3) Final and most important cause is empowering party (AL or BNP) in BDR and Army.  Lets use our common sense.  Why did BDR revolt now?  Why did not happen in the last 2 years? A group of BDR who are supporter of AL Party thought that their Govt is in power and they should get whatever they want.  Party empowerment in every sector is the biggest cause of problem in Bangladesh.
 
Look at the situation in Bangladesh, why so many thugs on the streets and law and order is not controlled by AL Govt.  Since AL supporter and its members got free hand to do anything they want and nobody is capable to stop them except AL Govt.
 
Look at Universities, why are there so much fighting? Becasue those trouble makers are empowered by AL Govt since they are in power.  This applies to BNP too when they were in power.
 
That's why I have asked AL and BNP to dissolve student politics for sake of the country and put law and order in place.  Even I know PM Hasina started student politics and came to power multiple times, but this is not the end of life.  If you can not remove the Cancer, just giving medicine won't help,  it will come back and forth.
 
I urge PM Hasina to dissolve all student politics and stop empowering its people in every Govt sectors. 
 
How to solve BDR Revolt:
 
1. Establish a gap analysis on BDR pay and benefit.  Get a report, develop a corrective action and implement immediately.
 
2. Stop empowering AL people in BDR and Army
 
3. Dissolve student politics now.  If you do good this tenure, people will vote you to power again, not those corrupt student politics.
 
4. BNP should do the same to help AL Govt by dissolving their student politics at Colleges and Universities.
 
5. Power is good but if we see continue unrest in Bangladesh,  your power doesn't mean anything to general people and even yourself.
 
6. Maybe separate BDR and Army unit and bring under PM observation if possible with current situation.
 
7. AL Govt needs to reshuffle Minsters to get better benefit for future.  Few Minsiters are good and few are just creating problem for Bangladesh to international stage.
 
 
At last, I, as part of CBD urging a peaceful resolution for BDR revolt for the short term and long term.  Please put tools in place, so future crises can be avoided in Bangladesh.
 
Again thanks AL Govt for their candid and sincere hard work to resolve this standoff. 
 
God Bless Bangladesh.
 
Regards,
M M Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
Director, Poltical and Economical Development in Bangladesh
Change Bangladesh Organization (CBD), USA




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[mukto-mona] BDR Bidroho naki Gonohotya?

 
 
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[mukto-mona] BDR Mutiny (Bangla)/Article(Somokalin)/Ranadipam Basu

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Please check the attached unicoded file.

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=1125

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[ALOCHONA] BDR Mutiny and the subsequent negotiations

It would have been better if right after the crisis, both the PM and the opposition leader Khaleda Zia had issued a joint statement. That would have sent a strong message to the mutineers. The opposition leader is not there just to use government perks and not do anything during a national crisis like this. First two days of the crisis, she wasn't anywhere close to the disaster. Was it because the gov't didn't want to involve her or she thought it wasn't her problem?
The negotiating team headed by Home Minister appeared very weak. Members of the team are all freshmen, none of them had any previous experience dealing with government affairs including the Home Minister. One of the team members is a student leader turned MP. It was hard to guess who led the negotiation - whether the rebels or the government. It is a dangerous game, in this situation a figurehead with experience needs to negotiate. AL could send a senior member of their team. They could even use HM Ershad to do the bargaining.



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[ALOCHONA] Sheikh Hasina: Bangladesh's toothless tiger

Sheikh Hasina: Bangladesh's toothless tiger
 
Dean Nelson

(Dean Nelson is the Telegraph Media Group's South Asia editor. He has been based in New Delhi for three years.)
 
Just as things were looking up for Bangladesh, another crisis has plunged the country back into chaos.The revolt by the Bangladesh Rifles, the country's border security force, highlights how fragile its 'progress' is, and how easily the new democratic settlement between the army and political establishment remains.
 
When BDR rebels started shooting their army officers at their Dhaka HQ, the new prime minister Sheikh Hasina capitulated to their demands so quickly that it sent shockwaves around the region. Her apparent weakness raised fears that it might encourage the rebellion to spread.
 
Her desire to nip the revolt in the bud, even if it meant surrender, reveals a country which has lost its confidence.It was not so long ago that Sheikh Hasina swaggered the country, persecuting her political rivals, mostly Khaleda Zia of the BNP, and then, in turn being persecuted by them.
 
Their confidence then was such that they didn't notice the country collapse around them as they fought it out.Then when the army called time on the feud that had come to define Bangladesh, they almost lost everything.
 
Sheikh Hasina has been returned to power by the ballot-box, but she knows she is not the force she once was. The swagger has gone, and perhaps with it the ability to rule.
 
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[ALOCHONA] Fw: RE: [bd_journalists] India offers to send peace mission (OVER OUR DEAD BODIES!)



--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
India sending military peace mission to Bangladesh? What a sick and cynical joke! Ha! Ha!

We have not forgotten the nightmare of Indian military peace mission to Sri Lanka. If the lackeys of India within the government and the administration proceed with that, then the people will have no other alternatives left, except for fighting it out. While we hope for the best, we must be prepared for the worst.
 
Please note the following lines in the Indian report below:
 

"In the proposal that is now being considered -- because the Bangladesh Army does not trust the Bangladesh Rifles and the Bangladesh Rifles has no confidence in its officers of the Bangladesh Army -- an Indian agency is offering to take over the responsibility." 

 
Is there a clue about the BDR mutiny in this? So, can we not ask: Who done it?? Did you notice as the BDR mutiny flared up, how promptly India sealed the borders and ordered their BSF to be battle ready with red alert and with everybody accounted for, how quickly they mobilised their 'black cat' special elite forces along the borders and how quickly Pranab Mukherjee phoned Hasina and offered any help that could be asked for, military, financial, etc.?
 
Terrorism in Bangladesh? HuJI-B is suspected to have been organised by Mossad, and JMB is suspected to have been organised by RAW, while most of the grenades, huge amounts of explosives and bomb making equipment came from India, much of it produced in Indian government factories. The quantity is so large, that it is difficult to believe that an organisation like raw was snoring while smugglers were at it. Reasons for creating terrorist organisations? Excuse for military intervention to subjugate Bangladesh.
 
Since you have taken the initiative to circulate the report, please circulate it to newspapers and other sites with a wake-up call.
 

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From: MBIMunshi@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:19:28 +0600
Subject: [bd_journalists] India offers to send peace mission (OVER OUR DEAD BODIES!)

Indian peace mission signal

SUJAN DUTTA

New Delhi, Feb. 26: India is offering to send a peace mission beyond borders to give security to the Calcutta-Dhaka- Calcutta Moitree Express on an explicit request from Dhaka in the wake of the mutiny by soldiers of the Bangladesh Rifles, highly placed sources in New Delhi have told The Telegraph.

As of today, the Moitree Express that runs between Calcutta and Dhaka is suspended — it runs between the two capitals on Saturdays and Sundays — because of the BDR uprising. Indian and Bangladeshi armies are currently engaged in a first joint training mission in Jalpaiguri for two weeks since February 22.

Yesterday, as two Indian goods trains that make a daily run to Darshana in Bangladesh to transport essential commodities were to enter Bangladesh, there was no one available at the BDR outposts beyond the border pillar to open the massive iron gates that would allow the trains into Bangladesh. The commanding officers of the BDR — actually army officers — had to clang open the gates themselves.

Since Sri Lanka, such a venture to Bangladesh would be the first international bilateral peace mission by India. The Indian Peacekeeping Force of the army to Sri Lanka got embroiled in a tragic war and was aborted at enormous cost to life and limb.

In this instance, India is considering paramilitary forces such as the Central Reserve Police Force, the Railway Protection Force or, if Dhaka agrees, even the Border Security Force, with the exclusive mandate of escorting the trains, protecting passengers and preventing damage to engines and rakes of the goods trains.

The train from Calcutta crosses the border after Gede in Bengal, passes through a metal carriageway, at the entrance for which the gates are opened by the Border Security Force on the Indian side, rolls over the tracks on no-man's land, still through the metal cage at the end of which huge gates are opened by personnel of the Bangladesh Rifles for the train to enter into Bangladesh.

At this point, the security of the train is handed over from India's Railway Protection Force to its Bangladeshi counterpart and for the border security to the Bangladesh Rifles.

In the proposal that is now being considered -- because the Bangladesh Army does not trust the Bangladesh Rifles and the Bangladesh Rifles has no confidence in its officers of the Bangladesh Army -- an Indian agency is offering to take over the responsibility.

For the UPA government in New Delhi and Sheikh Hasina's government in Dhaka, it is a grand statement that local disputes will not be allowed to take bilateral and cultural linkages hostage. Pranab Mukherjee and Sheikh Hasina, personal acquaintances themselves, are understood to be considering the move seriously.

They have concluded it is not worth shutting down the train that has meant so much when it was opened on Poila Boishakh last April.

It also is an eloquent illustration of Manmohan Singh's message to neighbours that India is willing to give friendly countries a stake in its development. The train is popular with Bangladeshis many of whom visit India for medical care.

Last year, there was a move from a hawkish section of the establishment in New Delhi to stop the train altogether when police alleged the hand of elements of the Harkat ul Jehad Ul Islam, based in Bangladesh, in blasts in Hyderabad. But a determined officer in Dhaka and the ambassador there put up a strong defence of continuing with the service.

Of the 538 km between Calcutta and Dhaka, 418 km is in Bangladesh and 120 km is in Bengal (India) but the symbolism it covers is greater than the distance.

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[ALOCHONA] Trial of killers will be fast-tracked

Trial of killers will be fast-tracked
Dhaka, Feb 27 (bdnews24.com)— A senior army officer said in a statement Friday night that trial of those who killed scores of army officers in the two-day BDR mutiny will be fast-tracked.

"The general amnesty announced by the prime minister does not mean that those who took part in killing, mutiny, arson and other heinous activities will be pardoned," lieutenant general Muhammad Abdul Mubin said.

"Vested quarters have tried to damage the image of the patriotic armed forces through provocation and propaganda," the general said, calling for national unity.

Mubin read out from a written statement minutes before midnight and said he was clarifying "a few points at the instruction of the prime minister".

"Those who committed such barbaric and brutal acts cannot be pardoned and will not be pardoned," said Mubin, principal staff officer to the Armed Forces Division overseen by the prime minister herself.

"In order to ensure a speedy trial, the government will form a special tribunal and surely give exemplary punishment (to those guilty)," the general said. "And proper representation from the army in the inquiry committee will be ensured," he added.

He repeated an earlier government announcement that the dead would be buried with full state honour and that the families provided with "all facilities".
The general said the two-day mutiny had tarnished Bangladesh's image internationally.

"The incidents of the last two days have completely destroyed the BDR chain of command, which makes this force as well as the country's security very much vulnerable.

"Restoring the chain of command is imperative in the interest of national security. "The government has already appointed Brig Gen Moinul director general of the Bangladesh Rifles. "Under his leadership, the command structure of the entire force will be re-organised."

The statement followed Gen Moeen's meeting with the prime minister, which ended at 11pm. "Respected members of the armed forces, the Honourable Prime Minister and the government are fully aware of, and sympathetic to, all your sentiments and reactions."

The general said the members of the armed forces must be patient, and play a responsible role. "We must remain united and act together to show respect to the departed souls of the officers who died," Mubin said.

"This is absolutely vital for the country's security and peace in general. "It is our moral responsibility to maintain national unity in these times of national crisis." He referred to the government announcement that the nation would officially mourn the dead till Sunday.

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[ALOCHONA] Fw: [bangla-vision] Re: Comments on BDR mutiny



--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Jana Shah <janashah_1@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Jana Shah <janashah_1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [bangla-vision] Re: Comments on BDR mutiny
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Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:09 AM

Sir nothing wrong with Army having educational or health institutes. They are one of the best organisations under army where decipline is the key to sucess unlike civilian institutions where politicaly motivated appointments are made by all the governments.
 
As far as mutiny is concerned why dont you question the involvment of India in this undrest and killing of finest officers of Bangladesh??
 
Bangladshis did not know till yesterday if Maj Gen Shakil was alive or dead but Indian RAW-Funded NTDV and other channels were already airing news of killed.
 
Do take sometime out to ponder over the question why India was sending SMS to BDR officers that Bangladeshi army was on way to kill them which indeed resulted in mutiny.
 
 
Regards
 
Jana

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo. com> wrote:
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Subject: Comments on BDR mutiny
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Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 7:20 PM

Comments on BDR mutiny


Zia Rahman
Although very painful and unfortunate, these types of events are not very uncommon for an underdeveloped country like Bangladesh where poverty, paternalism or informal allegiance and unequal power relations are rampant and the ultimate outcome is social inequality or disparity. Hence, at the very outset disparity and social inequality seem to be the main cause of such an event. Three major aspects have been identified to comment and these are:


(1) The ruling elites including military, the state machinery and even the civil society rarely contemplate the question of social inequality very seriously; they never want to understand the impact and consequences of such social inequality which is increasing in all the segments and groups in our country by leaps and bounds. Sociologically, this is a very common outcome where corruption and nepotism along with unequal power relations play an important role in making money, wealth and resources using authoritarian and feudal ethos. Although this is a very crucial issue, except very few civil society members, the society has yet to be aware of.

 

This is such a crucial issue that most capitalist states even have conceded and thus introduced a plethora of ancillary methods such as employment insurance, medial insurance, and other social benefits minimizing the gap between rich and poor. The whole night I watched the television news in various channels and I, as a student of social movements, have tried to understand the dynamics and severity of the event. No doubts the grievances have been developed for long, and it is very surprising that the officers of the B.D.R. and the intelligence could not even figure out such grievances. Nonetheless, it is a huge loss for a country like Bangladesh.


(2) Apparently, the rebel soldiers seemed very confident and smart and they raised many critical issues which have been growing for a long time; I was even surprised hearing a soldier quoting Professor Muzaffar Ahmed regarding the corruptions of some army officers during the 1/11 regime. In a modern society, inner issues related to such problems are analyzed, raised and discussed in everyday life either by a journalist or by an academic or a television host belonging to the educated middle class. But the irony is that these types of practices are totally nil in our society even though some academics sometimes try to convey their opinions in a frightened and timid way. In a western society, these types of anger are also there, but the important thing is that there are many think tanks, organizations and researchers commenting on everyday issues, and the public agencies always incorporate those valuable opinions and suggestions in formulating social policies. In Bangladesh, civil society is still gelatinous and the coercive power of state apparatuses interrupts the honest, courageous, thoughtful and real opinions and observations raised by the academics, experts and scholars.


(3) Definitely, a sagacious citizen never wants to see such a painful event, both illegal and unacceptable. But this is the reality in our country and the old proverb works out here now---history repeats itself. The issues which should have been addressed by the policy makers, intellects and academics have now been addressed by the lower strata officials belonging to the same military organization, though at the cost of human blood! There are many burning issues in military, diffusing everyday social inequality, should be addressed and focused on.


Last year when I saw that a public university was established for the military in the cantonment area, I was really surprised. The military high commands never think about the consequences. The military have their own medical college; engineering college and now they have their own university! I am not sure whether the military high commands have ever thought about the long term effects; in the short run the military might gain but in the long term they will definitely lose. There are lots of issues in the academic minds and time has come to analyze those in a neutral and thoughtful manner.

 

 Do the military have ever thought about the long term consequences of the policy of the Defense Officers Housing Society (DOHS) or the Trust Bank? Why do the military establish assets and establishments like Darbar Hall, Sena Kunja or Rifle Square? These have symbolic effects on the powerless and the masses. The military high commands, without knowing the long term effects and consequences, have been alienating themselves from rest of the society although we all are Bangladeshi and the segmentary development is not our desire---indeed a parochial and an obsolete idea in the era of globalization. Interestingly some rebel soldiers have raised some very rudimentary but crucial issues that could have been raised by either a Professor like Muntasir Mamoon or a journalist like Mr. Nurul Kabir of the New Age. But I am sure the military high commands would have taken such ideas negatively had scholars raised such issues. The military high commands should incorporate as many opinions and ideas as they possibly can. I know the Bangladesh military has many intelligent and promising officers who think about the progressive and prosperous Bangladesh.


From the administrative/ intelligence point of view this is a complete failure for the state agencies involved in security and intelligence. The prime minister has just visited the BDR, and the mutiny could have happened the day the prime minister visited BDR but we do not want to think about such tragic events. The policy makers and the administrators should be more serious about the future security questions of Bangladesh. And they should keep in mind that it was a complete failure as far as security is concerned


It is positive that a democratic government is there having a huge verdict from the people in Bangladesh. As a political sociologist I know that dialogue, justice and peaceful solutions are the only desire of the general citizens in Bangladesh. I am sympathetic towards the family members of the BDR officers and the innocent civilians. We know that the mutiny, rebellion or insurrection is all negative terms in the legal books, and the authority and the officials will definitely do their own jobs accordingly. But my sincere desire from the ruling elites and the policy makers is that the authority should be transparent and they will inform the inner causes of the mutiny and the real conditions of the BDR to the public.

 

The parliament is alive and the parliament members should actively participate in the debates. Moreover, a parliamentary enquiry committee can be formed who can review the situations of military in Bangladesh on the whole incorporating military experts, academics and scholars. This might provide the resources and solutions for future problems related to such an unfortunate and unbearable BDR mutiny.

(Zia Rahman Associate Professor in Sociology(on- leave), University of Dhaka; Ph.D. Candidate and Instructor, Dept. of Sociology, University
of Calgary, Alberta)

 

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[ALOCHONA] Beware of Indian Propaganda on BDR Mutiny


The following views expressed in the following news report originally came from Indian sources such as SAAG (which is sponsored by RAW) or directly from Indian intelligence as appeared on IBN Live website –

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers31%5Cpaper3072.html

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bangladesh-rifles-mutiny-ends-mystery-remains/86374-2.html

Why are Bangladesh nationals using information manufactured by Indian intelligence? Did no one see the BDR Jawans chanting Joy Bangla as they were engaged in their rampage and killing? Is this the slogan of Islamist fundamentalists? Finally why did India propose to send a Peace Mission to protect the Calcutta-Dhaka Friendship train without even being requested? What would happen if we offered them transit? We can expect they would not need to offer us assistance they would simply send their troops into Bangladesh since we now have an open border after the revolt. We also have information that BSF were sending SMS messages to the BDR jawans during the mutiny. Although this has still to be verified the indications are that Indian intelligence and their human assets in Bangladesh are involved in propagating disinformation and propaganda to misdirect public attention from the real source of the rebellion. I find it utterly disgraceful and appalling that after such a tragedy our own citizens would participate in this Indian game. They should be calling for unity but their acts speak of disunity.


Anti-liberation forces instigate BDR-men to attack army officers


Staff Correspondent

The Bangladesh Today - February 28, 2009

An organised gang influenced by anti-liberation forces in a preplanned way instigated BDR members to launch barbaric attacks on army officials and killed them intentionally in a move to create an anarchic situation in the country.

This allegation was made by participants at a discussion meeting organised by Ekattur er Ghatak Dalal Nirmul Committee at WVA auditorium in the capital on Friday afternoon. Political leaders, lawyers and professors took part in the discussion presided over by National Professor Kabir Chowdhury.

The participants said after the take over of power by Awami League-led 14-party alliance government, the trial of war criminals has been demanded by the people and that has already been approved by the parliament. Under this circumstance, an organised gang influenced by anti-liberation force instigated the BDR members to create an anarchic situation in the country in order to foil the proposed trial of war criminals.

They said good numbers of fundamentalists were appointed at different significant sectors of the country during the tenure of BNP-led four-party alliance government. Now they are trying to destroy the mission and vision of the government including the trial of war criminals so that it does not take any steps against the war criminals.

Barrister Tania Amir said in order to create countrywide anarchic situation to foil the proposed trial of war criminals, an organised armed gang influenced by anti-liberation forces launched attack on army officials and killed them intentionally. They also violated their wives during the attack which lost happened in 1971.

"To keep the situation under control, our Primer Minister Sheikh Hasina announced amnesty but the amnesty will not cover of murderer and violations. Trial of killers and violators must be held under existing procedures," she said.

Workers party president also MP Rashed Khan Menon said soon after taking decision over trial of war criminals, a certain group are becoming very active to create anarchic situation throughout the country. "We will have to take steps against this vested quarter carefully, because conspirators might instigate and create more untoward situations anytime," he said.

Kabir Chowdhury said soon after announcing amnesty, the situation came under control but it does not mean that the mutineers will be freed from criminal offence. Trial is must for killers and violators. "The government will have to reform the function of BDR and different intelligence departments immediately and take measures for ensuring trial of mutineers," he said.


 



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[ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in Bio-fuels is sinful

Sir,
I think, more than a couple of years ago I had posted, who I was. I
think, you missed it. I left Dacca in 1971 just before Indian
Invasion and my relatives still live in Dacca and Rajshahi.

Yes there's a little Interest charged by IMF and World Bank. It
ranges from half percent to 5%. If Bangladesh does not want to pay
Interest, she should not apply for such loans but could you please
tell me, which instalments of these loans have been paid by
Bangladesh by earning a Net Balance of Payment since her birth?

All Instalments have been paid out of the same loans or more loans
have been taken out to pay the instalments. Not a single penny has
been paid so for out of Net Foreignf Exchange Earnings because we had
no such earnings since out birth.

Billions of dollars worth of loans have been forgiven by USA, Japan
and other European countries. Please tell me, how those loans or Aid
Charities have hurt Bangladesh ...!

Do you really think, I'm stupid and don't have right information?
If you are a real Moslim, how come you are propagating lies about IMF
and World Bank, where our own Bangladeshis in high postions are
making sure that our interests are not hurt?
Do you have any shame sir?

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Mohammad Hossain" <MHossain@...>
wrote:
>> Mr. Turkman:
>
>
>
> Your comments to this forum is irrelevant. You have been less than
a
> professional in your attitude and behavior when critiquing other
> alochock's postings in this forum. Time and time again you have
called
> everyone but yourself a liar. I just wonder what makes you so
special
> that you keep pounding everybody with your gung-ho attitude and
> obnoxious comments. You have turned yourself into an equal
opportunity
> offender. Let's talk about reducing poverty and increasing
opportunity
> for common Bangladeshi's.
>
>
>
> The personal opinion (not a religious edict!) of a relatively
unknown
> scholar in Saudi Arabia has no bearing on the common citizens in
> Bangladesh. They couldn't care less.
>
>
>
> Now, you want to close all Saudi supported schools and programs in
> Bangladesh. This is an indication how shallow you are. My friend,
do
> not throw stone at others when you live in a glass house. You have
not
> still identified yourself, with your true name even after repeated
calls
> from the forum participants. Do you want us to trust you? Then
> positively identify yourself. I wouldn't be surprised to learn
that you
> are a foreign agent paid by CIA, Mossad or RAW.
>
>
>
> Bangladesh is an open democratic Muslim society and it will remain
so no
> matter what Saudi's say or do. I agree with Cyrus that the posting
on
> ethanol was unnecessary if not totally irrelevant for this forum.
> Again, Saudi have nothing to do with our social and political
ills. We
> have enough of our homegrown so called political leaders that have
> caused havoc on society.
>
>
>
> You should know that no money comes without strings. If you feel
Saudi
> money is bad think about interest bearing IMF/World Bank money.
Just
> think what World Bank and IMF has done to the finances of the third
> world countries all over the world. No country wants their interest
> bearing funds with so many strings and so much bureaucratic control.
> And that's the reason that China is funding most of the project in
> Africa and other third world countries in Africa.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Nurul Hossain
>
> U.S.A.
>
>
>
> From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of turkman@...
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:42 AM
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in Bio-
fuels is
> sinful
>
>
>
> No its not un-necessary to post, how stupid are Wahabi Mollaas
> because they are spending tons of money to convert Moslims to their
> kind of Islam. We must learn everything about them so, we can ban
> Saudi Funding of Religious Schools in our country.
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alochona%
40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Cyrus <thoughtocrat@> wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Haque, thanks for your posting. Do you mind telling me what
> makes you think that I am not a "believer"? I am assuming that
> by "believer", you are referring to being a Muslim. I could be
wrong
> and you probably meant something else.
> >
> > You are correct in saying that this is just an opinion. But in a
> land of anarchy where the only opinions that matter are the
opinions
> of the monarchy and the religious council, any "opinion" is a
> dictation to many people in the world, especially to those who look
> to Saudi Arabia for guidance and direction.
> >
> > Frankly, I think the whole posting is unnecessary. We are not
> Saudis and what the Saudi scholars say has no relevance to our
> problems.
> >
> > Cyrus
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mohd. Haque <haquetm83@>
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alochona%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:00:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in
Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Being a Muslim I have taken what the so called Saudi scholar said
> as an opinion, I wouldn't take it as fatwa (Islamic ruling) though
as
> mentioned he is from the fiqh academy. Even if he had claimed it as
> fatwa, yet it wouldn't bother me much. When it is a human judgment
it
> should have its limitation and you weigh his opinion according to
> your own understanding on the matter.
> > The Holy Quran prescribe Freedom of Speech, he has said what he
> think he should say, take it or leave it. Perhaps your
disparagement
> here is unnecessary. Since you are not a believer it shouldn't have
> bothered you in the first place.
> >
> > It bothered you or the scorn derived from, very likely, something
> else. Wish you only good.
> >
> > Haque
> >
> > --- On Tue, 24/2/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in
Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Tuesday, 24 February, 2009, 11:05 AM
> >
> >
> > Next time one of these morons is sick, and goes to the hospital
for
> treatment, I want him to refuse anything alcohol based for
anesthesia
> or sterilization. I want the doctors to operate on him without any
> narcotic or painkillers to reduce pain, as they are also "haram" in
> Quran because they can impair your judgment. Only then he would
> understand that their meaningless propaganda of the last millennium
> is irrelevant. Funny thing is, no one mentions that Hazrat Omar was
> actually an alcoholic (as well as a megalomaniac) , and that the
> Semitic tribes during Prophet Mohammed's time traded wine, as well
as
> served them at family gatherings and parties. Oh, I am sorry....you
> didn't know that Prophet Mohammed was also a "Semite"? And you
> thought that only the Jews are the Semites?
> >
> > Religion is the enemy of science. And if I have to choose between
> faith, religion, and the teachings of some puritanical mollahs and
> science, I pick science.
> > C
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com>
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:55:58 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in
Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> >
> >
> > It would have been more appropriate if the citing was about the
> destruction of human food to produce biofuels in order to feed the
> vehicles. Where as the world is facing the acute shortage of human
> foods in many parts of the world, the obligation of the rich
> countries would have been to preserve more and more human foods,
and
> even if they sell instead of donating, millions of human lives
would
> have been saved. Cellulose biofuel production is alright because in
> that process human foods are not used; but producing biofuel using
> human food is extremely unethical.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: rkhundkar@earthlink .net
> > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:31:55 -0500
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Saudi Muslim cleric warns that biofuels could be sinful
> > By Eoin O'Carroll | 02.20.09
> > http://features. csmonitor. com/environment/ 2009/02/20/ saudi-
> muslim- cleric-warns- that-biofuels- could-be- sinful/A prominent
> Muslim scholar in Saudi Arabia has warned that those using alcohol-
> based biofuels in their cars could be committing a sin.
> > The warning was issued by Sheikh Mohamed Al-Najimi, a member of
the
> Islamic Fiqh Academy, an institute that studies Islamic
jurisprudence
> for the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, an international
> group with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. According
to
> the Al Arabiya News Channel, an international news outlet is based
in
> Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Mr. Najim directed his warning to
Saudi
> youths studying abroad.
> > Al Arabiya notes that Najimi stressed that this warning was not
an
> official fatwa, or religious edict, just his personal opinion.
Najimi
> added that the issue "needs to be studied by the relevant religious
> bodies."
> > Ethanol, a common type of biofuel, is made of the same type of
> alcohol found in alcoholic beverages, and its production is similar
> to that of hard liquor. Plant matter is fermented using yeast, and
> the result is distilled to increase the concentration of alcohol.
> > Fuels with high concentrations of ethanol - the most common being
> E85, a gasoline blend with 85 percent ethanol - can be used in flex-
> fuel vehicles, which make up more than seven million of the roughly
> 250 million passenger cars and trucks on America's roads. Most
> gasoline sold in the United States contains about 10 percent
ethanol.
> The fuel is more common in many Latin American countries,
> particularly Brazil.
> > In addition to beverages and biofuels, ethanol is a widely used
in
> industry for its properties as a solvent and an antiseptic. It's a
> common component of perfumes and paints. The chemical is also
> necessary in the production of vinegar - one of the Prophet
> Muhammad's favorite seasonings.
> > The Koran prohibits consumption of alcohol in three separate
verses
> that were written over a period of several years. The first mention
> occurs in 4:43, in which Muslims are told that they must not pray
> while intoxicated. A verse written later - 2:219 - says that in
wine
> and gambling "is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin
is
> greater than the profit." Finally, in 5:90-91, intoxicants and
> gambling are called "an abomination" and "Satan's handiwork":
> >
> > Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you,
with
> intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of
> Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
> > This admonition is waived in the hereafter, apparently: Many
> passages in the Islamic holy book describe heaven as having rivers
of
> wine.
> > Ironically, it was Muslim chemists who introduced distillation to
> the West. The process of distilling pure ethanol from wine was
> perfected by 8th- and 9th-century Persian chemists, who used it to
> create perfumes and eyeliner. Their writings were translated by
> European scholars in the 12th century, and the process was used to
> make potable spirits. The word "alcohol" is itself of Arabic origin.
> >
> >
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