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Thursday, September 29, 2016

[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan!



I didn't go to graduate school. My work experiences are in field theory, computing and white noise modeling using some principles of statistics and spectral analysis.


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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan!
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 9:55:16 PM

 
My statistics : Not even one percent Muslims would like to live in the Middle East, US, Europe of Australia because 75% Hindus
would be too much for them to handle their propaganda against Islam!!
 
Which university have you obtained your doctorate on Statistics from?  
 
 
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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 2:46 pm
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Now you have statics which I cannot refute. My statics, 75 % of Hindu would like to live in Middle East , US, Europe or Australia when they learn about those places. I don't if that make them lesser Indian or Hindu.

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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 8:42:39 PM

 
 
" I have to say many people same same gut feeling of religions; but in US, this considered bigotry."
 
Can you give me an statistics on how many people "same same" and how many in US consider it bigotry?
 
 
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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 1:12 pm
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For a moment I thought it was scientific fact that you are convinced of. And the first time any heard of correlation between hypocrisy with any particular religion. For gauging correlation statistics a must.

If it is from gut feeling, then I have to say many people same same gut feeling of religions; but in US, this considered bigotry.

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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan!
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 6:49:51 PM

 
You love to argue - unnecessarily without understanding what others have said. This is one of the traits of we Bengalis!
 
When I have used the word "most," you should have realized that this cannot be quantified with an statistics. Yet you
have asked for it!
 
To be candid, if anyone believes that following the Quran in its entirety makes one a Muslim, then hear from me - there
is not a single Muslim on earth today. Now, don't ask me to 'quantify" the number - no one knows the exact number of
humans inhabiting on earth today!
 
 I do not know how many humans are living in the skies. If you will want to know their number - then ask Allah!!
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 10:53 am
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Do you have statistics to back your claim.

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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 1:00:57 AM

 
"Hypocrite" is the other name of most of the Muslims!!
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 5:41 pm
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The love for the Pakis never really vanished even after four decades? I am not surprised seeing the same people supporting the war criminals of 71 but got no shame to claim that they really fought for Bangladeshi independence. Question is where and what front? And, for whom?

According to our neo-Pakis, US and UK are considered the super terrorist states of the world because they have been bombing Pak-stan to wipe out terrorists including captain Osama and many other thousand 'innocent' non-state actors. Yet, our poor Paki lovers would not mind to settle in those countries and earn their daily bread? If that is not enough, the same Mumeens are bringing their whole family including grandmas and grandpas to these lands of  infidels for oxygenated air and civility?. I am sure these people love Islamic fairness and democracy? But, do they exist anywhere in this word in any Mummeen country?

  

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:11 PM, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:
A few more to add to your wonderful list, Mr. Rashed Anam:

The India who stole all the sophisticated weapons and armaments left by 5 plus Divisions of Pakistan from Bangladesh in 1971 is surely not a thuggish and thieving country.  
The India who annexed Sikkim is surely not an aggressor county.
The India who snatched South Talpatti from Bangladesh maritime territory is surely not a hegemonic country. 
The India who uses Bangladesh virtually free for connectivity to its Seven Sisters is surely not an aggressive and encroaching country on neighbor's sovereignty. 

The list is never ending...
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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan!
 
Hmm..  
The India who kills us every day at the border  is surely not the Terrorist Country! 
The India who trains and arms Terrorists Shanti Bahini against Bangladesh is surely not the terrorists country. 
The India who has been killing Kashmiri Civilians is surely not the terrorist country
The India who has killed our 57-army officers is surely not the terrorist country
The India who has hijacked out rivers by force, build dams by force, diverted 54 rivers violating international water laws surely not the Imperial  country
The India who hijacked our democracy and install vote-less puppet govt surely not the terrorists coutnry
The India who kills its own Muslims, in Gujrat, in Babri, in Ahmedabad, in Mumbai, even for eating beef is surely not communal racist country 
The India who had imposed economic blockade on earth-quake-devastated Nepal is surely not the bully imperial country ! 

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
India is basically the SAARC or whatever you want to call it. If you do not like India's national interests, you can form your own if you wish. Nothing prevents you from doing that! Pakistan has become a hub of global terrorism. If it wants to terrorize others, it definitely deserves to be boycotted and boxed. India got the stronger card and it will play it for its advantage. There is no free lunch for any country as we have learned from uncle Sam and cold war.  If Pakistanis want to be more Arab or Chinese like, they should be forming trading block with Middle-eastern countries and China/North Korea. India should just cut off Pakistanis from entering India for any business including trade, cricket and cultural exchanges. Let see how long all weather friend, China would keep it bailing out from bankruptcy?

India should form a trading block with like minded countries and scrap this non-functioning crap with Pakistan. If Jamatis and BNP ever come to the power in Bangladesh, they will have the chance to revive the old SAARC again if they really please. But for now, Pakistan is out of the club and has been gradually becoming a pariah state in the subcontinent. Its only option is to join the ISIL caliphate and prosper in terror games before Uncle Sam gets in its case.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com> wrote:
SAARC has been made a laughing stock  and woes of the millions and millions of people in the region and a white elephant for the poverty/war stricken south East Asia.
The poor people of the region  helplessly stares that how their Tax money is being spent  lavishly by the hypocrite leaders to make fake speech of promises and praising each other.

I remember at the 1st summit Rajib Gandhi was very skeptical about the efficacy of then dream august forum as he felt that it will be difficult for SAARC to move unless everyone make sacrifice for the other for common benefit.

But it was INDIA who refused to bring the bilateral issues to be subject of discussion in the forum. By thus the forum got the first jolt and lost it's characteristics as a regional forum and became a paper tiger/tigress ?????????????

Let's stop the foul play and stop squandering the money of the poor..

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
Pakistan has better chance to get along with its chaotic Arab neighbors?
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