You have made a good attempt at explaining what is "white noise," but I could not understand much of it. Perhaps, I don't have the level of intelligence that you require to understand your statistical theory on white noise! Water does not have its own color. So why don't you give us your theory on "water noise." Perhaps, we can learn something from you to better our miserable lives! What you have said about Hurs and Lingo puja is a rambling. In it, you have also mentioned about slavery and said the Jews and others also legitimize sex with slaves. But you are not aware that many civilized societies have banned slavery a long time ago! In Islam, it is still valid and no Muslim is willing to admit it openly. Do you know what the Quran says about slavery and do you know that the Prophet of Islam, who was a "Mercy" for the entire mankind, owned many slaves and had sex with them? How old are you? I am just curious!! -----Original Message----- From: Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> To: Asgar Googlegroup <msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; pfc-friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; yahoogroups <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Cc: aleem53 <aleem53@yahoo.com>; Jalal Uddin Khan <jukhan@gmail.com>; nazir0101 <nazir0101@gmail.com>; mgani69 <mgani69@gmail.com>; Zoglul Zoglul <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>; Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu <khondkar_karim@uml.edu>; Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2016 12:47 am Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan! White noise has different defination for different discipline , though underlying principle is same. For a moment, think 'White' as " all strength or value or probability" ( white color has all colors of same strength). Noise as outcome ( wether it has sensible meaning or not in the context). White noise , Statistically speaking, probability of occurrence of each and every elements of interest are same. Now , think , if all letters from English alphabet has a same probability in a word/spelling, in other words all 26 letters in one word, it willmakes it a gibberish/ noise.But all 26 letters form the basis ( complete background or white noise) of writing English words. In sound, if all pitches have same volume. , results is a noise almost if a bullet being fired. Amar Bose, the founder of Bose systems, first came up idea of using bullet sound as source of 'white noise' for testing fidelity of audio system and patented it. Volume of all audible pitches in bullet sound are extremely close for human ear to detect the discrepancy in volumes. Today, all audio electronics and symphony halls uses this sound for testing out its audio fidelity for different pitches. In a ideal hall , echo of bullet will sound exactly ,like ,when it was fired, in reality 80% or better is considered great. white canvas in a painting or photography is ideal 'white noise' background , here; like sound of bullet is a great 'white noise' background for audio designing context. But hail of bullets during a music consert is just undesirable noise. (Like wise a white screen for blocking is not a white noise background in painting or photography.) In pattern reconization, purpose of white noise is completely different. Think of fog as white noise. Extremely dense fog is close to perfect white noise. If you filter white color from the view, that might also remove the white color from any object in the fog , if the object has mostly have white color, little to no chance of discerning it. If fog is half as dense then filtering to about 50% of the above strength ( opaque) will have more success with the same object. In the above visual scenario, different degree of opaqueness can be considered different white noise models , in this context. In the case fog/pattern, filtering out white noise is the objective. Where as, in earlier scenarios, white noise background is used partially at a time ; like using few letters from English alphabets for a legitimate English words. I know, in or two reads,' white noise 'for those who never had to work with it may find it hard to grasp all the purpose, enventually will. Back to Hur and shiv lingo pujas. Those are giving bad taste in people's mouth. Most people moved on from that topic. Now it can only play into the hands of extremist in both religious groups. It is not just Islam or Hindu, even Jews. And Christian legitimize sex slaves. Holy books are redict documents, those many sources. One fact that most people ignore those outrages topics written many decades after the deaths of respective prophets. I will not be supprised some prophets had no idea what was written their name. Most people ignore the stuff in their daily practice. Only extremist refers it. nazi didn't treat hew any better. Dr Mengke inject blue dye and dissect their eyes while they were awake . These are not joking matters. Why put gasoline in fire. | Experience in the field is much more valuable than "conjectural" knowledge imparted in colleges and universities. You have done well by opting for field experience that made you a better statistician. Your knowledge in this field is much superior to many others! Congratulations! By the way, what is "white noise modeling"? Never heard of it before. Please explain. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Khoniker Othithee < khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> To: Asgar Googlegroup < msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar < shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; pfc-friends <pfc- friends@googlegroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh- progressives@googlegroups.com>; yahoogroups <mukto- mona@yahoogroups.com> Cc: aleem53 < aleem53@yahoo.com>; Jalal Uddin Khan < jukhan@gmail.com>; nazir0101 < nazir0101@gmail.com>; mgani69 < mgani69@gmail.com>; Zoglul Zoglul < zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>; Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu < khondkar_karim@uml.edu>; Khurshed Chowdhury < chowdhuryk@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 3:21 pm Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan! I didn't go to graduate school. My work experiences are in field theory, computing and white noise modeling using some principles of statistics and spectral analysis. | My statistics : Not even one percent Muslims would like to live in the Middle East, US, Europe of Australia because 75% Hindus would be too much for them to handle their propaganda against Islam!! Which university have you obtained your doctorate on Statistics from? -----Original Message----- From: Khoniker Othithee < khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> To: Asgar Googlegroup < msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar < shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; pfc-friends <pfc- friends@googlegroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh- progressives@googlegroups.com>; yahoogroups <mukto- mona@yahoogroups.com> Cc: aleem53 < aleem53@yahoo.com>; Jalal Uddin Khan < jukhan@gmail.com>; nazir0101 < nazir0101@gmail.com>; mgani69 < mgani69@gmail.com>; Zoglul Zoglul < zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>; Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu < khondkar_karim@uml.edu>; Khurshed Chowdhury < chowdhuryk@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 2:46 pm Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan! Now you have statics which I cannot refute. My statics, 75 % of Hindu would like to live in Middle East , US, Europe or Australia when they learn about those places. I don't if that make them lesser Indian or Hindu. | " I have to say many people same same gut feeling of religions; but in US, this considered bigotry." Can you give me an statistics on how many people "same same" and how many in US consider it bigotry? -----Original Message----- From: Khoniker Othithee < khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> To: Asgar Googlegroup < msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar < shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; pfc-friends <pfc- friends@googlegroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh- progressives@googlegroups.com>; yahoogroups <mukto- mona@yahoogroups.com> Cc: nabdc < nabdc@googlegroups.com>; aleem53 < aleem53@yahoo.com>; Jalal Uddin Khan < jukhan@gmail.com>; nazir0101 < nazir0101@gmail.com>; mgani69 < mgani69@gmail.com>; Zoglul Zoglul < zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>; Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu < khondkar_karim@uml.edu>; Khurshed Chowdhury < chowdhuryk@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 1:12 pm Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan! For a moment I thought it was scientific fact that you are convinced of. And the first time any heard of correlation between hypocrisy with any particular religion. For gauging correlation statistics a must. If it is from gut feeling, then I have to say many people same same gut feeling of religions; but in US, this considered bigotry. | You love to argue - unnecessarily without understanding what others have said. This is one of the traits of we Bengalis! When I have used the word "most," you should have realized that this cannot be quantified with an statistics. Yet you have asked for it! To be candid, if anyone believes that following the Quran in its entirety makes one a Muslim, then hear from me - there is not a single Muslim on earth today. Now, don't ask me to 'quantify" the number - no one knows the exact number of humans inhabiting on earth today! I do not know how many humans are living in the skies. If you will want to know their number - then ask Allah!! | | | | |