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Thursday, November 10, 2016

[mukto-mona] Re: A low point in democracy when bully. win!



A rule is a rule! There are problems with both systems. If we go with popular votes, only few large states can elect presidents. That would be bad too. American founders saw it through and settled with the best system. These founders were simply brilliant minds!

American presidency is a powerful position. Is Trump bully? Was not Bill Clinton a bully? Is not Chinese Prime minister another bully? What about Putin? I heard same noise from from liberals when Modi got elected. No, he was not a bully but polarizing. What about Muslim countries and their favorite Kings/dictators for life? I am intentionally avoiding Muslim democracy because that simply does not exists at all. Muslims should be the last people to complain about bullies and dictators.

Watch American version of 'House of Cards'! great serial played by Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
If popular votes indictes anything, it means majority of Americans rejected bullying , sexism from dark ages, that is, also from seventh centuries, if not earliers.

But to the dismay of founding fathers in their graves, bully successfully circumvent the majority rule leveraging federalism. Now it is the nightmare for the parents of young children, especially the girls.

Enlightened American are questioning the winner of this election to advance the democracy. So, please feel free to speak up aslong you don't impose notions of darkness from centuries back.


From: DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>;
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Subject: Re: A low point in democracy when bully. win!
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2016 2:04:11 PM

This a free world, dear and people have spoken. Accept the verdict or stay on the sideline. What Asian Hindus/Muslims, Arabs, Latinos and pigmies think.... is irrelevant. There is a regime change and lets follow the rule of democracy. When Modi came to the power, we heard the same noise about sky to fall while many Muslims were forced to abandon their own Muslim dominated countries. Isn't that an odd phenomenon? And, these same people have the audacity to criticize secular democracies for their choices. Should Muslims dictate what kind of democracies others should have when Muslims are still living with the 7th century mentality? "We do not need to change but you do?"

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:54 AM, 'Khoniker Othithee' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Bully looses in popularity but still wins!

Now that a bully is the designated top dog of the nation, some of the parents of young chdren, especially girls are worried. Older boys are palying infamous audio clip, in which Trump bragging about grabbig female by pussy, as if it is the national anthem.

The defense for Trump is "men talk like that"; true, but not the resposible men. Some men rape for thrill too, does that make it acceptable.

He has contempt for women, that was confirmed when he encrouged a talk show host refer to his daughter Ivanka as pu. Or ass( this might be expected from a guy who makes a living as a pimp in bordello) . Now women should leave for Canada becuase a pimp won in questionable election. This first the time fbi was a party to a campaign. It took took less 2 days to read 35000 mail when senator Ried pointed that it had broken laws. FBI figured if it give a favorable review to Hillary,, her campaign will find it hard to blame them. But they have done the damge to her chances by playing with timing to influence early votes. Only CBS raised the question if they really review all tens of thousand email, or just a ruse to cover a crime.

Trump's win can be attributed to confluence of many concerns, some are legitimate like terrorism and crime , when others are despicable as racist, xenophobia, sexist and contempt for decency.

The number of victims from terrorism in the last decade is pale compared to number of children got killed by adult bullies over the same period with no comparale demand for addressing the issues; that fact shows some dont see children as fellow citizen , when it matters but excuse terrorism as a excuse vote for bully and against gun control .

The budget allocated for children welfare is smaller than what is for terrorism. The people who voted for trump is perfectly comfortable with that arrangement. They see the money allocated in budget for children welfare is socialism. It shows their judgement is skewed, so them voting for pimp didnt suprise me.

US native have some reservations of imigrants; those are somewhat reasonable. Though many immigrants make good use of western experiences and make contribution here. When fews are like pigs; pig looks for clean places to relieve it self, to make it suitable for them live in , that is shitty place. For example ey bring BNP/BAl or BJP/Congress politics here.

On the topics of asian imigrant ( that includes muslim and hindu) I would say they have contempt for western world out of jelousy. They both reduce their religion to politics


After defeating soviets in afganistan, some muslim grew a false confidence that , they can beat on super power. Those moron forget or dont realize tbey were just second fiddle to another super power in that fight. In last 2 decades these morons decided to take upon their boss. They saw succes in blood letting. Untill recently some didnt realize their folly.

Hindus dodn"t bring violence here, but dishonesty is, for many of them a staple mode of opernadi as with muslim and people from other continent.

http://m.bdnews24.com/en/ detail/us-elections-2016/ 1240650

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