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Friday, January 27, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} watch

'Could be as per Islamic tradition' is a poor excuse for calling it 'our eyes on Islam'. It is wrong. If you want your 'eye on Islam' you cannot talk 'could be', you have to talk "is" and cite verses from the Koran/Hadits.



On Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:54 PM, "Jiten Roy [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

Criticizing someone, who is beating his wife in front of other people, could be as per Islamic tradition, but propagation of such messages has nothing to do with Islamophobia. Any normal thinking individual will vigorously protest it, but Islamists will be offended by the propagation of such a negative image, since their goal is to sell Islam around the world.  
Jiten Roy  

From: "Sukhamaya Bain [mukto-mona]" <>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} watch

I think at least on face value this video is unfair to Islam. A man is beating a woman, presumably his wife. He is not saying or implying that he is doing it as per Islam. So, calling this video something like 'our eye on Islam' is wrong.

However, if the Koran or the Hadits contain edicts of beating wife, honorable people should trash those edicts, if not Islam as a whole. So, I think instead of assuming that a man beat a woman because of Islam, people should cite verses from Islamic books to back up their 'our eye on Islam' kind of mottos. If criticizing unjust and hateful edicts of Islam makes one an Islamophobe, he/she should be proud of being so.



On Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:01 PM, "Jiten Roy [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

Farida Majid:"If this isn't Islamophobia I don't know what is! ! ! !"

I viewed some of those clips, and found that these are about  women's right/mistreatment in Saudi Arabia, and in some other Muslim countries.
Being a woman, you should have publicized such unjust treatments of Women by yourself. Instead, you are accusing the person, who has circulated video clips about mistreatments of Muslim women, as Islamophobe. And, by doing so, you are also saying that these videos are as per Islamic traditions, so, circulation of such video clips is equivalent to spreading phobia about Islam.
So, let me ask you, are such mistreatments of women part of Islam? If it is, I will admit that circulation of such videos could be considered as spreading Islamophobia.
I, know, Islamophobia is a favorite term in your vocabulary, but, I really think, you may not understand the meaning of this term. Sorry to say that!
Jiten Roy

From: "Farida Majid [mukto-mona]" <>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:15 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} watch


If this isn't Islamophobia I don't know what is! ! ! !  What is the reason for it to be posted here in mukto-mona by Sitangshu? Of what benefit is this to  the Bangladeshi society - - - to mankind ?
 There are other such videos  generated by Zionist organizations circulated by Sitangshu .
Read the comments -- if you are in any doubt about the real nature of this ugly propaganda . . .

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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:24 AM
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