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Sunday, February 19, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Kaba sharif



"Healthy approach towards Islam" would be to look at it as "a religion", as opposed to "my religion", and to apply your human common sense and intelligence on it. After all, you were not born with a religious stamp on you; you got your religious identity because your parents and the community in which you were born wanted it, nothing better than that. Humans have been giving up the stupidity, injustice, hatred and barbarity of their parents and foreparents; that is how humans have been progressing. The fact that your ancestors believed in absurdity or were barbaric is no reason for you to believe in absurdity or to be barbaric.

SuBain

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On Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:16 PM, "DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Look, Islam is no different from another religion except it was started by an illiterate man with relentless violence that is still palpably a daily reality. The followers were not anymore wiser or literate than the founder that they could arrange the suras in any chronological order. Most of the contents are gibberish and were basically plagiarized from Tora and Bible and sold as another new religion. Islam preached for one invisible God but  it ended up worshiping Kaba's Pagan stones. So much for the God's new revolution in the town!

Iranian Shias were basically Fire worshipers with different customs and traditions. So, expecting that they would exactly follow the lesser intelligent Arabs is pretty much an absurd expectation. It is in their genes to be different from the Arabs... whether they pray the same God or a Persian God.

Bluntly put, God has not set up any rules for anybody. We did it for politics and to project power on others. Wahabi Sunnis can destroy the whole Kaba but that would not make Islam any closer to the God than an Amazonian tribe who do not rely on Almighty for their daily food or survival in that vast jungle. 

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:

    An eleven years old had a question, when Almighty is omnipresent ,then why pray to Him in one direction only. In islam there shouldn't be significance on symbol.(idol) or symbolism (like dressing in certain style for religious purpose or growing beard). Is using Kabasharif as symbol for  direction to face during prayer lot like facing symbol  (idol) for prayer  or not. Are theses practices  deviation from Imun or Prophet wanted to show some reverence to the practices of other beliefs that existed  in that area; he did say there is compulsion (see link below) . If imum is good, then any practice or lack of it, will not matter that's what I was told in my childhood.

   Why the verse in Holy book are not in chronological order but ordered by length of verse ( from largest to  smallest). What was there anything wrong in the chronology that prophet passed to his disciples. If it was innocent scrambling then how some conflicting verse are paired as in the link below. Holy book was first published after death of prophet, and went through changes for about next two decades. If prophet wanted it , he could have made arrangements to publish during last two decades of his life.

 Why saudi royal religious whabis boss wants to destroy Kabashrif. They also want to remove Prophets grave from present the place, because they think shia are worship Him. Are they right? 

Anybody has good answer to these question for younger generation to grow up with healthy approach towards  Islam.








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