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Tuesday, April 18, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot



These people perfectly know the definition of Secularism that was clearly defined by American founders .....some two hundred years ago. Even though, these giants were not formerly educated in Political Science but their acts and the action of drafting the constitution were simply unparalleled and brilliant. Can we expect such brilliance from these midgets, Madrassa monkeys, who still think that Arabic should be their first language due to its heavenly link.
Asking these morons to be secular is basically expecting ISIS cadres to form a multiparty caliphate for all people? As I see, these Haramzadas are hell bent to destroy our civil society at any cost and raise their bloody flag. Not sure how long we should tolerate these savages?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:26 AM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
Precisely, Shah Deeldar, you are absolutely right. These Jamaatis and apologists are master hypocrites and frauds. If they don't like secularism, they can remove themselves from these countries and move to their holes. No wonder, Donald Trump and others are targeting them.
These dimwit guys are very badly educated. They can't think properly, they can't write properly. Only thing they can do is abuse others in indecent language and use vulgar words.

- AR 


On Tuesday, 18 April 2017, 3:21, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:


These congenital Jamatis love to see their civil and religious rights to be sacrosanct in secular societies while they would not  extend such rights to their fellow minorities. That is the grand hypocrisy! These Haramzadas have no love for Trump, Le Pen or Geert Wilders. The reason is of course obvious! 
People who do not appreciate secularism in a foreign country, why not  they remove themselves to their non-secular gutters rather than keep kissing infidels' butts?


On Monday, April 17, 2017 7:10 PM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I am surprised Ranu Choudhury did not hear about "Secularism" before 1972. Was he not born before 1972 or was he on another planet before that year?

FM was referring to the Two Nation Theory (TNT) that culminated in two nations in 1947. This TNT was not invented in 1947. The TNT is now totally discredited and despised. Yes, the TNT had spawned into Three Nations and Bangladesh is the beneficiary.

But even the ardent Pakistani agents and supporters would not argue that West Pakistani criminals and Punjabi thugs wanted to impose Urdu in the then East Pakistan in order to create Bangladesh. Bangladesh came into being, not as a result of a grand design or a historical strategy, but as a result of geopolitical machination. In this respect I fully agree with Ranu Chowdhury that even Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not anticipate or even venture to utter the word "Bangladesh" before 7 March 1971. If he or anybody else would have done that, that person would have been imprisoned immediately for treason or even hanged. That was the regime we lived in. Those people who now cry for Pakistan should remember that.

- AR   


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 6:40, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:


"In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."--FM
Is it? Where, which sector she fought in 1971? In Agartala or chokirtola? Some idiots keep crowing that people fought to establish in Bangladesh "Secularism", a word no Bengalis came across before January 10, 1972. Now another (you know what) comes to say that the fight was against the 
IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 

Is it there in Mujib's 6-Points? Has anyone heard it during the 1969 movement? During the 1970 election campaign? During any of the talks between Mujib and the Pakistani junta in January-March 1971? Mujib and Awami League participated in the 1970 elections on the basis of President Yahya's LFO which had guarantee clauses for the unity of Pakistan. Mujib's March 7, 1971 speech ended with Pakistan Zindabad. Mujib negotiated with the junta until March 25 for unity of Pakistan. So where does the contrary idea about Two Nation Theory (TNT)show up?

Shahadat Bhai put it rightly when he said: "We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh." That is, it is because of  TNT, we won Bangladesh. Otherwise, where would Bangladesh be? With India? In the Bay of Bengal?
I am no fan of TNT, but it was necessary for the Muslims in India in 1947. Even Nehru pushed for it. Mujib as a student leader fought for it. 

FM should go back to basis history classes before making such idiotic comments.
From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:33 AM
To: Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Thank you SHahadat Bhai. Keep us in your Doa's.

Razzak A. Syed


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On 17 Apr 2017, at 9:16 am, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:

"The problem is that there too many morons like Razzak are roaming around in Bangladesh and beyond. These dimwits suffer from a congenital disease called...' I do not study, I do not read, I do not think and I do not care' syndrome. When people suffer from this chronic brain disease, they become suddenly God's creatures, called Mullahs! "

The statement above fully characterizes Ms. Bua. Her statement, "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947.", is totally a false statement. We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh. 

The true shall prevail, the falsehood will be destroyed by their own activity and actions.

Razzak bhai, don,t you be worried on what people like 'Bua' says. 

Where is Mr. Deeelder? 

From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Farida Majid
Cc: Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Hussain Suhrawardy; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Ms. FM,
   Your statement "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."

Can you check the history and find out who was behind the 2-nation theory and why? Current status of Bangladesh is the answer to it. 


Razzak A. Syed


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On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:22 am, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 






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