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Sunday, May 14, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] How the Bengali chotalok shaped India’s destiny

Even today, poor Santals, tribal people, and lower caste Hindus are being oppressed in Bangladesh to force them out of Bangladesh.

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Shah Deeldar [mukto-mona] <> wrote:

The irony was that Jogen Mondal and his Barisal gang had to flee to India to save their precious lives as soon as the Pak honeymoon was over. Lower caste Bengalee Hindus failed to see the deceptive gospel of Islam. The choice was to become low caste Muslims or stay marginalized as second class citizens in a new Islamic country. None of the choices were good but when things were finally realized by these fools, it was simply too late. Mr. Mondal got his @ss kicked as he deserved. The man was not intelligent enough to safeguard his group's interests. He sold them to the lowest bidders for peanuts.    

On Saturday, May 13, 2017 4:10 PM, "Dristy Pat [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

This article speaks seldom spoken truth that, the father of the highly acclaimed Indian constitution was an untouchable, named Dr. Ambedkar, from Bombay, and, the truth behind the establishment of a separate land (Pakistan) for Muslim was a lower caste Hindu, named Jogendra Mondal, from Barisal. Without Dr. Ambedkar's talent, Indian constitution would have been derived from Vedic era scriptures, and without Jogen Mondal's support, there would be no Pakistan.

The fact is - lower caste Hindus initially started a liberation movement against upper caste Hindus, which was later on supported by Muslims, and that movement transformed into a demand for a separate land for oppressed masses (Muslims, lower caste Hindus, and tribal ethnic groups).

The lower caste Hindus have played such crucial historic roles in the creation of modern India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh,   yet, how many people know these facts? Not many, and, this is not a mistake, it's a willful design.

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Sukhamaya Bain [mukto-mona] <> wrote:
Following is a great and informative article indeed. My thanks and salute to the author, Dr. A. K. Biswas. It is a must read article for people who love their motherland or ancestral land of East Bengal, which constitutes most of Bangladesh today.
Let me note that a terrible tragedy of the related history of the Indian subcontinent was that J. N. Mandal failed to see that Pakistan was not for emancipating any kind of people when he decided to join that country. For the short term, it was for unfair advantage for the Muslims that were not into educating themselves for competing in a modern world. For the long-term it was for an Islamic nation of inhumanity. (Islam is no emancipation for Muslims either; rational humanism is what would emancipate people who call themselves Muslims today. Obviously that would change their identity from Muslim to Human.)


Posted by: Dristy Pat <>

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