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Tuesday, July 4, 2017

[mukto-mona] Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging ‘Sikkim Saga’ in Bangladesh?

Bro Soab,
Why you think anybody critical of false pride is anti you or anyone with similar position; actually is farther from truth; same goes for misguide hindu counterpart.

A persian maxim is so telling, which goes ad , "to build one palace, have to reduce tens of thousands to feel privileged to live in slums to build that for somebody who will not know them or cared to".

Are there any remnant of living quarters of average citizens from Mughall's rule,, when there many such from Roman period, Jerusalem before christianity, even from Mohendojora. Those periods are more than two mellennium before mugal rule in India. If the remnants is any clues that is of better living conditions for average citizens than of so called glorious period of muhgal ruke. If today, someone find Mughal rule a glorious period, then he/she is not at all very sharp by any measure or just ignorant .

Also, Why you see religion in mugals rule. Is it any different than those moron from Ahmedabad Court who sees hindu religion in Taj Mahal, whom I see them as moron , to say the least.


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On Tue, 7/4/17, Mohammed Shoaib <shoaib187@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?
To: "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
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Date: Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 5:08 PM

Brother
Deeldar:
Where
the hell did you find any Brahmin in Shonar Bangla?
 They all left after Noakhali riots and the Partition.
 Hindus left behind are all either Untouchables (Methor
and Muchis like yourself) -- or Low-caste Namo Sudras like
Khonic and Company.  My village in Noakhali is still
Hindu-majority.  They have to come to Comilla to get a
Hindu priest who can conduct religious ceremonies!
 Hasina is patronizing these hapless Hindus to please
India, and thereby cling to power.
In
1979, China was badly beaten by Vietnam -- a far smaller
nation.  Imagine how poorly trained and equipped were
the Chinese in 1962, and yet they beat the "Hell out of
India".  So, compare India with Vietnam, not
China.  Then see who wins!  Hindus by religion,
nature and culture are very weak and cowardly.  And the
cowardest of all Hindus are Bengalis -- Ghosh murders Felani
from Behind while leaving India!  West Bengal is the
fourth largest state in terms of population -- and yet,
India has not raised any Bengal Regiment in last 70 years!
 Why?  Who wants a coward like Ghosh in the
military?
Pakistan
lost East Pakistan primarily because its Officers and
Soldiers lost all their "Martial Spirit" trying to
put down the insurgency -- because they were busy raping,
killing, looting, burning and other atrocities on innocent
people.  Exactly, the same situation prevails in
Kashmir.  That's why, despite frequent and severe
provocations -- India is unwilling to go to war with
Pakistan.  For a moment, let's forget India,
Pakistan, China, or Vietnam -- and look closer to
home.
Hindu
atrocities on Indian Muslims creates a parallel hatred of
Hindus living in Pak-Bangla.  Despite Hindu-Heavy
police force and civil administration championed by Awami
League -- there are isolated instances of revenge attack on
innocent Hindus.  Imagine the scenario when Awami
League is out of Power?  Any far-sighted Hindu would
lead delegations to the Indian High Commission impressing on
this ultimate peril.  Any sensible Hindu would refuse
to dance to the tune of Awami League -- while maintaining a
safe distance from any organization that supports
India's cause in Shonar Bangla.  Otherwise, just
think of what happened to Biharis and other Collaborators
after 16th December!  Those who ignore History are
condemned to repeat it.  Best wishes.
Shoaib





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Sent: Monday,
July 3, 2017 1:17 PM
Subject: Re:
Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in
Bangladesh?

No need to
introduce any fixed idea to an young person, let alone a
very young child. Who does that serve to? Not God and nor
that poor person! Let him/her choose his/her way
independently without parents' involvement. With so much
religious indoctrination, how many good people do find in
Bangladesh? I find more trustworthy person in the west
whether they are on the streets or in offices. I bet
butcher, Shamim Osman prays ten times a day to kill his
innocent opponents. And wish to be totally forgiven by Allah
and SK Hasina. Yes, he is a great Mus!! How many of 
our Bangladeshi PFC idiots are really equipped with any
intelligent thoughts other than Allah-hu Akbar chants? 


On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 3:08
PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
People
steeped in tradition of cultural or religion tends to have
closed mind and seldom practice free thinking , and
contribute to new ways of solving problems for humanity.



British rule weakened many Hindu traditions in many Indian
states. Those states are leading the way for india. Issue
with present day Muslims ,  they are taught to appease
half educated religious fanatics from very early age. 
These children take their words for God words and them as
little God. That mess up judgement of children with not very
strong  mind.



I have read there are several hundreds of hadis were
considered not authentic so  discarded. That goes to
show how authentic or lack thereof these religious documents
are. If children are introduced to religion at much later
age , that is good for  religion and society. But that
is hard to change because a cottage industry came out of it,
which is ready to fight hard.



Only God knows best, how to go about make changes to that
predicament.







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 Subject: Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging
'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?

 To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

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 Date: Monday, July 3, 2017, 1:52 PM



 It is

 rather a cultural tradition of free thinking than
believing

 in what one's religion permits. If you are not
asking

 tough questions, you are not pushing the envelope,
Most

 religions do have that latitude of freedom except
Islam.

 Muslim students (numbers are very small though) are

 boycotting evolution studies in many good western

 universities to become what? Freethinkers? That is why
Islam

 has created only garbage Ullemas and no experts in
any

 subject, Study Quran and figure out how to travel to
Mars?

 That is the difference between a Jew and a
Muslim. 



 Please do not mix up

 which Hindus did not let others to drink water from
the same

 well, That is another matter, Would a Bedouin allow
others

 to drink water from the same well that he/she recently
dug

 out? Why would a Saudi call Pakistanis slaves and

 Bangladeshis as poor Miskins? Do not think Islam is
color

 blind and got no racism? Why did Pakis kill dark
skinned

 Bengalee Muslims during 71 war? How many Arabs are
marring

 African Negroes?



 On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at

 11:14 AM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

 wrote:

 Tribal

 Gods mandate one belief, because it is easy for them
to

 rule. That notion is still alive among many muslim
because

 they still under the spell of kafir . One of the
main

 characteristics of that culture is dominance, if you
cannot

 dominate anybody , then you are nobody.







  A similar notions also found in the orthodox
group. It is

 more mainstream among unsophisticated Muslims.
Unfortunately

 after discovery of oil and the installing
uneducated

 famalies in power in saudi, kawit, Iran other oil
rich

 countries, fate of muslims took turn for worse. When
British

 were criminalizing barbaric Hindu practices of
femicide and

 torching their mother, sister, daughter or
neighborhood

 little girl for being unfortunate widow, they
unwittingly

 strengthen the educated in middle East, which has sway
over

 the  vast segment of muslims.







 There hardly any difference between Secular Hindu,
Muslims

 and Jews. If you take the Hindu belt states in India,
it is

 pretty dismal. People got bruttaly killed for
drinking

 from  same water hole as so called higher caste.
If you

 stack backward segment from one community against
Secular

 from another community , that is not scientific way
of

 analyzing.







 Count of tenure at MIT is not a good gauge a cultures.
At

 point there were more tenured professors from turkey
or

 Italy than there  was from India, even though
much more

 Indians enrolled in scientific field. Now probably
the

 opposite is true. As said it is a testament
individuals more

 than of culture.







 It is true, Muslim world in general took a turn to

 backwardness  after Soviet invasion of
Afganistan, when

 west facilitated the dark force in muslim world to get
them

 fight Soviet. Rest is history​.



















 ------------------------------ --------------



 On Mon, 7/3/17, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>

 wrote:







  Subject: Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India
Restaging

 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?



  To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>



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  Date: Monday, July 3, 2017, 9:13 AM







  No Muslim



  autocratic rule! Thank you. These people need to
take

 some



  great lessons in Democracy and Political science
to

 apply



  for any such top jobs.







  On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at



  12:18 AM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>



  wrote:



  "Hazrat Shah Neamatullah has also
predicted



  the re-unification of India, but with a
caveat.....

 under



  Muslim rule ... or so I have heard."  
;;

 Javed Helali



  :



  Who is this  so called prophet by the name
Shah



  Neamatullah, who;s prophecies makes you so
confident

 about



  the future. If you have seen future tell us more
about

 it.



   







      On Sunday, July 2,



  2017 8:34 PM, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>



  wrote:











   Persecution of Bangladeshi Hindus is not
new.



  Muslim majority countries habitually cleanse
its

 minority



  population. The phenomenon is rather global. No
wonder

 why



  Israelis are expanding their empire.







  If for some reason, some thousand Hindus are



  suddenly driven out from Bangladesh, a heavy
price will

 have



  to be paid by Bangladeshi Muslims and its
government.



  Chitagong Hill tracts region will secede and
India

 would



  declare a safe zone area for the Hindus in
Bangladesh.

 Would



  Bangladesh dare to fight insurgents for next
two

 decades



  like Srilankans did with Tamils? Good
luck! 







  Rohinga Bangladeshis would be



  pushed towards Bangladesh from Burma. What are
you going

 to



  do? Start a new jihad? Don't underestimate
Hindus

 in



  Bangladesh! They know exact location of
Bangladeshi

 jugular



  vein. They can make your life more miserable if
they

 really



  want. I would suggest you not to take that
route. There

 are



  more Bangladeshi Muslims live in India than
Hindus in



  Bangladesh. Think about it! If you want to be
another



  Pakistan in eastern frontier, you will be
treated as

 such



  with no mercy.







  On



  Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Mohammed Shoaib
<shoaib187@yahoo.com>



  wrote:



  India



  has deployed one soldier for every ten
Kashmiris.  And

 yet,



  can not fight stone-throwing children to
victory! 

 Good



  luck against China or Pakistan.  It's
always the

 man



  behind the gun that really matters.  The
soldiers

 fighting



  in Kashmir are the descendants of the soldiers
who



  surrendered/retreated in Sino-Indian War
(1962).  There

 is



  nothing to suggest that their gene pool has
turned any

 more



  "Martial".  China is still in
occupation of

 about



  30,000 Sq.Miles of India-Occupied Kashmir. 
Instead of



  raping, killing, burning innocent Kashmiri men,
women

 and



  children -- they ought to focus their guns
elsewhere to



  recoup territory lost to China. For about 40
long years

 --



  India has been trying to make an indigenous
Fighter Jet



  (Tej).  While the name may be inspiring --
Tej has yet

 to



  see the "Daylight".  So much for
your

 vaunted



  leap skyward.



  Now,



  more to the point, coming closer to home. 
If I were a



  Bangladeshi-Hindu, instead of comparing the
benefits of



  urine (Cow vs. Camel) -- I would lead a
delegation of



  prominent Hindus to speak to the Indian High
Commissioner

 in



  Dhaka.  I would persuade and convince him
that the

 current



  mob-lynchings of Muslims in India creates a very
toxic

 and



  vicious environment for Bangladeshi
Hindus.  But if I

 cheer



  Murderous Modi and his fanatic Hindu Thugs -- a
day

 will



  come when I will be lynched in Shonar Bangla
when

 others



  will cheer.  This is called,
"Vaghobaner



  Bicher".  Just think of Biharis in

 1971.  Best



  wishes.



  Shoaib











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   Sent: Sunday, July 2,



  2017 6:59 AM



   Subject: Re: Fw:



  {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim
Saga' in



  Bangladesh?







  While



  Tibet issue is still burning, China would not
dare to go

 for



  another war with India. If Dalailama opts for
violence

 in



  Tibet, China would not be able to contain the
violence

 from



  these fearless Tibetians. It knows India would
never



  hesitate to push the nuclear button if it
feels

 threatened.



  Indian mentality is not the same as it was in
1962 as

 the



  new Chankya gang is in power. If the country
can



  successfully send the Mars probe to its right
place with

 a



  single try, it can deliver the real goods to
Chinese



  premier's residence with far more
accurate

 precision.



  So, the simple message for the Chinks is not to
fuk

 around



  with the Indians but to deal with its rather
smaller

 weaker



  neighbors. I understand that many Islamist want
China

 to



  take over the world as if that would help any
Muslim

 cause?



  US/UK did not deliver anything to Muslim nations
and

 they



  think China will?? What an idiocy!







  Even smaller Vietnam troubled



  China in 1979 (http://nationalinterest.org/



  blog/the-buzz/27-days-hell-

 when-china-vietnam-went-war-



  19596) by handing it a defeat to its

 'superior'



  red army! . China wanted to

 teach a lesson to Vietnam but



  instead learned a lesson from that disastrous
adventure.

  











  On



  Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Khoniker Othithee
<khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>



  wrote:



  In 1962 war both, India and China



  had comparable in terms technology but China had
edge

 in



  number. In 1965, then Pak had few more advance
fleet

 than



  what India had; so had some early success. But
that

 would



  have changed, if Shastri , then Indian PM
Shastri was a



  humble but sophisticated man, who took city bus
to his



  inauguration ceremony​ as PM; he didn't
see any

 glory



  worth the loss of large Innocent civilians ,
almost all



  great mind in the history of mankind would have
share

 his



  views.















  In 1967 Arab Israel , with smaller Miltrary
overwhelmed

 much



  larger army of Arab Army, not because they are
warrior,

 but



  because of the high end Air force with Mirage ,
which

 which



  kept Egypt , Syria and Jordan on the ground.















  The today, centuries of battle history
doesn't

 account



  for anything any more. US has very big edge in
sky, all



  because of AWACS (Airborne Warning And Command
Systems).

 It



  helped US in  gulf wars. In one scenario,
they shoot

 down



  80 Soviet high end fighter plane without
losing  a

 single



  plane; all because, not so much for their
superior pilot

 or



  plane but for Awacs. What Russia has today
doesn't

 quite



  match, because it is land based. That takes days
to get

 in



  place when AWACS in hours.















  China reportedly has some new technology that
may

 offset



  many US technologies, that is not likely to
happen in

 next



  decade.















  If India can get many Awacs, even a scale down
then

 China



  will shy away from sny major dumb headed
adventurism.

 More



  over china govt is not so much for cheap glory,
because

 of



  it's size , they feel self assured unlike
Putin

 Russia.



  What it is doing, it keeping India busy
fighting

 it's



  citizens in North East. North Indian treat them
as from



  inferior race, just Pakistani just like did to
bengali.

 Also



  using their economy, investing 40 billion in
India.

 That



  will make hard for India politicians go too far
with



  hostility without paying big price.















  So, it is futile to bring centuries old battle
history

 to



  predict future wars. Though fools may it
entertaining 

 when



  they don't have going.

























































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