An interesting article:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:03 AM RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail..com> wrote:
Well articulated, Br. Abid Bahar. Just sharing a few lines from respected Br. Zoglul Husain, I may add that India's plan to break Pakistan was as old as from 1947 (admitted by JN Dixit, a former Indian Foreign Secretary) and the idiotic Pakistani generals offered it in a platter in 1971. Bengalis of East Pakistan wanted to fix the economic disparity and freedom from the domination of the Punjabi overlords, which turned into a war of independence when the Pakistan military launched its genocide on March 25, 1971. After nine months and a sea of blood, they won victory.
Interestingly, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman gave the call for Ebarer Songram Swadhinotar Songram, but fled from songram when it knocked at his door on the night of March 25. Mujib and his family, Sheikh Hasina included, availed the royal hospitality of Pakistan military during the entire period of the war, when million other Bengalis died and suffered at the hands of the same military.
Now tell me Mr. Bain, where did Islam play on ground in 1971? According to you, Hindus faced the Pakistani massacres in 1971, but can you count the number of Hindu Shaheeds of war, compared to Muslims?
Secondly, tell me Mr. Bain and the coterie, how would you brand those who willingly surrendered and availed the Pakistani hospitality during war? Was that Mukti Juddher Chetona?
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Subject: Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: পবিত্র মাহে রমজান শুভেচ্ছাবার্তা - - -Sukhamaya Bain, where did you see Islam in 1971 war?
Sukhamaya Bain doesn't seem to have brain when he says "...the numbers of people who died and suffered miserably in 1971 due the Islam virus in people's brains. Hindus were indiscriminate targets of murder and heinous brutality; and a lot of Muslims were similarly targeted for not being Muslim enough! Please use your common sense and reject religious stupidity and hatred for better life on Earth for your next generations."
The fact of the matter is 1971 war was not between Islam and people with brain, it was between 3 parties working to attain their own self- interested goal.(1) India wanted to divide Pakistan for its own long term goal. Hindus of Bangladesh wholeheartedly supported India and Awami League without any hesitation.(2) Bhutto wanted to occupy power at the cost of the division of Pakistan and Yahya Khan as the commander wanted to save Pakistan at the cost of killing Bengalis including Hindus and the Awamis and anybody fighting for Bangladesh. Like Hindus supporting the Indian agenda, Jamat also supported the Pakistan agenda..(3) In the name of fighting for democratic rights of Bengalis, Mujib wanted to become the king of Bangladesh to establish his so-called "Sonar Bangla" 's Sheikh dynasty. In the end Mujib got killed for betraying with the people, for saying one thing and delivering another thing.I would like to ask this Sukhamaya Bain to read Rao Farman Ali's Bhutto, Mujib and Bangladesh where he says, during the first week of March 1971 he went to Pakistan to meet Yahya Khan in Islamabad. As he entered the president's house, he say in the lobby three people, Bhutto standing, drinking scotch Yahya was already drunk and there was Yakub Khan sitting with Yahya Khan. Bhutto standing, Farman Ali said in the book, seeing them drunk when he witnessed East Pakistan was burning gave him the thought that it was as if Rome was burning and Nero was playing flute.In this whole scenario, I don't see any idea of Islam playing any role but anti Islamic generals getting ready to kill both Muslims and non Muslims opposing the existence of Pakistan.What do you say to this Sukhamaya Bain? You don't seem to have any brain. No wonder why Brahmins still treat you as an untouchable!
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:16 PM Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Aftab Sheikh and Mr. Ranu Chowdhury:
There is no such thing as an enemy of an idea (Islam in this case). People and ideas cannot fight with each other; only people can fight with people. So, there are a lot of animosities and fights between Muslims and non-Muslims and between different kinds/shades of Muslims. As for atheists, they mostly talk factually and logically to persuade religious people to use their natural common sense and to stop making the world a miserable and deadly place. There are a lot of deaths and sufferings all over the world now due to corona virus. But, for example, please compare these numbers with the numbers of people who died and suffered miserably in 1971 due the Islam virus in people's brains. Hindus were indiscriminate targets of murder and heinous brutality; and a lot of Muslims were similarly targeted for not being Muslim enough! Please use your common sense and reject religious stupidity and hatred for better life on Earth for your next generations.
(I would ignore any personal attack and block, or have blocked, anyone making such attacks on me.)
Sukhamaya Bain
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 1:39:49 PM EDT, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
Even mighty Allah can't rescue you from the atheists? If Allah is not protecting your human rights to kill and and plunder others, can you really blame Him? Allah loved killer Zia but not Shaikh Mujib? Get your home work done properly.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:24 PM Aftab Sheikh <humanrights4human@gmail.com> wrote:
This babus are in fact not Hindu by faith but by born. They are atheist and enemies of Islam and Muslims even of Hinduism, Christianity Buddhism...... By the way, not all atheists are enemies of Islam or Muslims. Only those left faith from any religions they are the enemies of Islam and Muslims and any other religions or its followers.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:28 PM RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:
What is the problem with thes Babus? Mr. Suhas B quoted follwing three issues about Ramadan:
They force all food stores, restaurants to be closed.
I believe you live in the US, Mr. Barua. Where did you see them closed? If Corona confinement made you wild, don't put it on Ramadan. In Bangladesh and other Muslim countries, some shops and restaurants are closed during daytime because there are no customers. There is no official order for such closures, if any. And I don't think there is any restriction for non-Muslims to shop and eat during daytime in those countries (I have been to many Muslim countries around the world, even in Ramadan). If you don't find any shop, I can only say that you were at a wrong place.They bang all houses at 3am to wake up and eat shehri!Where did you get that weird idea? Maybe in olden days, in some remote areas. And if they did, they didn't do it on Baruas or on non-Mulsim doors. Today, every household has alarm clock.
And the loud Azan at 4am or so!!No Muslim will get disturbed on the sound of Azan, which is usually so soothing. Quote me one. If you are disturbed, I say again, you are at a wrong place.
Three sides of my village home have Hindu houses. In the evening, there are wild sounds of Kansa, dhol, shankh, flute and Uludhani. Hindus have বারো বমাসে তের কাতি। Such celebrations and noise goes virtually round the year. I never heard any Muslim complaining.
And Mr Bain's "abusing human health!"
In my many decades of adult life, I have not seen anyone falling sick while fasting in Ramadan, even during the hottest and longest days. In Malaysia, I have seen boys and girls as young as 7-8 years fasting with no problem, even though it was not compulsory for them. They did it for fun. Besides, Islam gives utmost importance to health. Ramadan is not necessary for sick, for young (upto the age of 14), for old age and some other disabled categories. Our good friend Razzak Syed can perhaps quote a few Qurani verses and hadiths on this.
And pricing? It is subjective. Ramadan is the blessed month for Muslims. They try to lead good, pious and healthy life during Ramadan.Iftar is more of a celebrations with entire family, relatives and friends together. It is like a party. Muslims don't mind spending a little extra during Ramadan. If non-Muslims find it difficult, they are at wrong places.
Mr. Bain, perhaps you are not aware, Jews have stricter fastings at certain holy times. I beleive even Hindus observe fast on certain occasions.
Finally, leave religion alone. It is one's own choice. Please do not offer opinion or give fatwa on something you have no idea. It goes for all denominations of faith.
Enough talking, thanks to Corona confinement!
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Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: পবিত্র মাহে রমজান শুভেচ্ছাবার্তা - - -Very good points.Actually they could fast yearlong, it's their business. Our problem is that they disturb others in doing so, I'm taking about Bangladesh! There are many factors, just three are:They force all food stores, restaurants to be closed.They bang all houses at 3am to wake up and eat shehri!And the loud Azan at 4am or so!!Who will tell them, please don't disturb others!!Anyway, they will attack you and me!! If I would write this in Bangladesh, they would burn my house, maybe my sister..Thanks--
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:11 AM Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most Muslims are too religious; they need to grow up and make sense. Ramadan is nothing better than abusing human health! It is not fasting; it is eating at wrong times. It is not sacrificing for anyone/anything (like the imagination called Allah); Muslims generally eat more and better quality foods during this month! Food priced go up due to the increased demands! (No attack on me personally, please. Feel free to argue factually and logically on the subjects, Ramadan and religiosity.)
Sukhamaya Bain
On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:54:28 PM EDT, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
বহু বছর আগে আমার হস্তলিপিতে কপি করা এই কোর'আনের বাণী পেশ করছি সকলের কাছে পবিত্র মাহে রমজানের শুভেচ্ছা - বার্তা স্বরূপ . . . .My handwriting, copying the Qur'an - Surah 'Araf: 55-56
(আমার বঙ্গীকরণ )
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Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: A permanent cure for syphilis!প্রথমত, ক্যাপ্টেন মাজেদ ধরা পড়ার পর বাংলাদেশ মিডিয়া যেমন সরগম ছিল, রিসালদার মোসলেমুদ্দিনের বেলায় সেটা দেখছি না। শেষ খবরটি ছিল ভারতীয় গোয়েন্দা কথিত মোসলেমউদ্দিন কে বাংলাদেশের কর্তৃপক্ষের কাছে হস্তান্তর করেছে। তার পর আর কোন সংবাদ আমি দেখিনি, যদিনা মিস করে থাকি।
দ্বিতীয়ত, বড়ুয়া বাবুর প্রচারিত দ্বিতীয় ভিডিওটি সম্ভবত মোসলেমউদ্দিনের। লুঙ্গিপড়া হাতুড়ে ডাক্তার। তিনি এই ভিডিওটি কোথায় পেলেন জানিনা, তবে ভিডিওতে আপনারাই ছবি মিলিয়ে দেখুন তা বাংলদেশের পূর্ব প্রচারিত ছবির সাথে মিলে কিনা। আমিতো কোন মিল খুঁজে পাচ্ছি না। মুক্তি যুদ্ধে মোসলেমউদ্দিন আমাদের সাথে ছিল। ৮ম বেঙ্গলে একজন নায়েব সুবেদার হিসাবে (প্ৰাক্তন পাকিস্তানী ট্যাঁক বাহিনীর সদস্য), সিলেট অঞ্চলে। একটু ভারিক্কি গোছের দেহ। বর্তমানে তার বয়স ৮০ বা তার বেশিও হতে পারে। একবার প্রচার করা হয়েছিল যে মোসলেমউদ্দিন মারা গেছে। ভিডিওতে যাকে দেখানো হয়েছে, তার বয়স ষাটের মত হতে পারে। আগরতলা চৌকির তলা।
তৃতীয়ত, ১৫ ই আগস্টের হোতাদের কে "খুনি" বলে অপবাদ দেয়া হচ্ছে। বিচার করে ফাঁসিও দেয়া হয়েছে। মানি, কিছু খুন খারাবি হয়েছিল সেদিন, যা দুঃখজনক। কিন্তু তারা কি খুন করতে গিয়েছিল ? মুজিবের সাথে বা তাঁর পরিবারের সাথে কি তাদের কোন ব্যাক্তিগত দ্বন্দ্ব ছিল ? মারতে যাবে কেন ? আমরা জানি, একটি গণবিরোধী, অত্যাচারী সরকার পরিবর্তনই ছিল তাদের লক্ষ্য। সেই লক্ষ্য অর্জিত হয়েছে। মুজিবের ঘনিষ্ঠ সহযোগীরাই হুড়মুড় করে পরবর্তী সরকার গঠন করে, যখন কিনা মুজিবের লাশ সিঁড়িতে পড়ে। ক্যাপ্টেন মেজররা নয়। সমগ্র জনতা, সারা দেশ সেই অভ্যুত্থানকে স্বাগত জানায়। সূর্য সন্তান বলে আখ্যায়িত করে। কারণ তারা সেদিন দেশটিকে উদ্ধার করেছিল, বাঁচিয়েছিল। আওয়ামী নেতা মালেক উকিলের ভাষায় অত্যাচারী ফেরাউন থেকে রক্ষা করেছিল।
অতএব, যদি ফাঁসিতে ঝুলাতেই হয়, বাংলাদেশের সকল সশস্ত্র বাহিনীকে (যারা সেই অভ্যুত্থানকে সমর্থন দিয়েছিল) ঝুলাতে হবে। সমগ্র জাতিটাকেই ঝুলাতে হবে, যারা সেদিন মুজিবের পতনে উল্লাস করেছিল, মুক্তি পেয়েছিল।
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Subject: Re: A permanent cure for syphilis!বডুয়া বাবু,এতোদিন শুনেছি বাংলাদেশ মুজিবের দেশ, এখন দেখি পুরো বিশ্বটাই যেন মুজিব কন্যা হায়েনার বিশ্ব? বাহ্ববা!! পা চাটা কুকুরের সন্তানের বিশিষ্ট সন্তান। মুজিব যেমন পা চাঁটতে চাঁটতে এতো উপরে গিয়েছিল যে ধরাকে সডাজ্ঞাণ করত। সে তার নিজের পাপে নিজেই মড়েছে। আপনি যে ভিডিও লিংক দিয়েছেন তাতেই জেনারেল শফিও তার বক্তব্যে একি কথা বলেছেন। সৈনিকরা ফের আউনের পরিবারের কীর্তি কলাপে এতো অতিষ্ঠ হয়ে ছিল যে, তারা সরকার কে উৎখাত করতে চেয়েছিল, তাদেরকে মারতে চাইনি। নিজের দেওয়া ভিডিও গুলি ভালকরে শুনুন আর দেখুন শিখানো বুলিদিয়ে কিভাবে জনাব শফি, জিয়াকে জড়াবার চেষ্টা করছেন। আর কতো মিথ্যার আশ্রয় নেবেন?
আগে নিজের সৃষ্টি কর্তাকে চিনুন। মনে রাখবেন:
"এরপর আমি শুক্রবিন্দুকে জমাট রক্তরূপে সৃষ্টি করেছি, অতঃপর জমাট রক্তকে মাংসপিন্ডে পরিণত করেছি, এরপর সেই মাংসপিন্ড থেকে অস্থি সৃষ্টি করেছি, অতঃপর অস্থিকে মাংস দ্বারা আবৃত করেছি, অবশেষে তাকে নতুন রূপে দাঁড় করিয়েছি। নিপুণতম সৃষ্টিকর্তা আল্লাহ কত কল্যাণময়।এরপর তোমরা মৃত্যুবরণ করবে।"
২৩-১৪/১৫
"কোন সম্প্রদায় তার নির্দিষ্ট কালের অগ্রে যেতে পারে না। এবং পশ্চাতেও থকাতে পারে না।"২৩-৪৩
"আল্লাহ কোন সন্তান গ্রহণ করেননি এবং তাঁর সাথে কোন মাবুদ নেই। থাকলে প্রত্যেক মাবুদ নিজ নিজ সৃষ্টি নিয়ে চলে যেত এবং একজন অন্যজনের উপর প্রবল হয়ে যেত। তারা যা বলে, তা থেকে আল্লাহ পবিত্র।"
২৩-৯১
Razzak A. Syed
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"বিদেশে বসে যাঁরা বংগবন্ধু, তাঁর পরিবারে সদস্য,নারী - শিশু এবং আত্মীয়দের হত্যাকারী খুনি-ঘাতকদের সমর্থন করে এবং খুনিদের পক্ষে জনমত সৃষ্টির অপচেষ্টা চালাচ্ছে; বাংলাদেশ সরকারের উচিত হবে এসব লোক কে কোথায় আছে, তাদের তালিকা তৈরী করে খুনীদের সহযোগী হিসাবে আইনের আওতায় নিয়ে আসা ! "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kF7xgtX3z4
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:21 PM DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
Risalder Muslehuddin is being investigated by Bangladeshis to authenticate his true identity. The man was posing as a Hindu Kobiraj, who almost become a true infidel but all that vanished after Majed was caught and interrogated by 'Endian' RAW agents. India has once again betrayed BNP and Jamati cadres for no good reason? Indians got no love for Surjo-Sainiks or whatever these mofos were called by our congenital losers. The last thing that I heard from Bangladeshi intelligence source is that the man is a fully circumcised infidel. Now they are trying to find out whether he got any Jewish heritage? Only that can save this man from the gallows. A mistaken identity? A Jewish man, who killed Bangobandhu? An absurd idea, I suppose 😀
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:09 AM DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
Many poor souls have been suffering from this slow chronic disease but a permanent cure could not be delivered to these patients because they are/were hiding in many different places with creative veils. Their patronizers still love them because they too suffer from the same disease. These patients got Indian passports and ration cards with no problem and yet they got no love for India. Hate India and seek sanctuary in an enemy house? Perfect Halal practice, I suppose? Got even younger Indian virgin brides to sleep with on comfy warmer beds with holy Ganges water to clean their dirty azzes. One was hiding as a pious teacher while the real point man of Bangobandhu killing... became a syphilis and gonorrhea Unani doctor. Call it a poetic justice of Allah! Now, many of our chronically syphilis affected 'patriots' would say, Musleh Uddin is just an innocent man now that he is caught and face the justice. Amnesty should stop hangings in Bangladesh to save these 'brave murderers'? Good to see how these creeps love to change their positions....and so fast. God is great!
https://www.newagebd.net/article/104880/articlelist/323/Cartoon--
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