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[ALOCHONA] FW: Maulana Waris Mazhari: Can Islam and Secularism Dialogue With Each Other?



               A realistic view with some sensible observations.  Personally, I would not have put secularism as a separate entity from Islam, especially in the Indian context.  Packaging 'secularism' as a religion-denying stance is a colonially motivated "European Enlightenment" stunt. Our deshi fundamentalists love such stunt-baji, it suits their lie-machines to the tee.
 
               Farida Majid 
 
              
 


Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:44:32 -0700
 Maulana Waris Mazhari: Can Islam and Secularism Dialogue With Each Other?

Can Islam and Secularism Dialogue With Each Other?

By Maulana Waris Mazhari

(Translated from Urdu by Yoginder Sikand)

 

The question of whether or not there can be a dialogue between Islam and secularism is a particularly pertinent one today. Many Muslims, including the vast majority of ulema and Islamists, believe that these ideologies are polar opposites. Hence, they insist, there is no possibility of arriving at even a minimum consensus between the two.

Yet, the question of dialogue between Islam and secularism remains one of particular importance, especially in the context of the rights of Muslims living as minorities in non-Muslim-majority countries. Numerous non-Muslim scholars and even some noted Muslim intellectuals (such as the Pakistani writer Mubarak Ali, the Indian Islamic scholar Maulana Wahiduddin Khan, and the late Professor Mushirul Haq) complain that where Muslims are in a majority, they brand secularism as 'anti-Islamic' and a threat to Islam and its followers, but where they are in a minority, they regard it as a blessing. Furthermore, where they are in a minority, they seem to argue for a secular state but, at the same time, insist that Muslims must remain safe from secularism.

These intellectual contradictions, which abound in our ulema and Islamist circles, must be resolved if we are not to be accused of double-standards. It is primarily the responsibility of the ulema and other 'lovers of Islam' to address this task with the urgency it deserves. 

To cite an instance of such intellectual sophistry, in several of his Urdu works a noted, recently-deceased, Indian Islamic scholar described secularism in India as a 'shady tree' that must be protected and strengthened. At the same time, in his copious Arabic writings, aimed at Arab scholars and readers, he decried secularism in no uncertain terms. The same sort of contradiction may be observed, to an even greater degree, in the case of the ideologues and activists of the Jamaat-e Islami of India. Those of them who consider any minor departure from the thought of the Jamaat's founder, Syed Abul Ala Maududi, to be damaging to Islam itself agree wholeheartedly with Maududi's claim of secularism being a form of 'infidelity' (kufr). To my mind, these  people are victims of a pathetic form of personality-worship and literalism.

On the other hand are some other individuals also influenced by Maududi's thought, but who, after sixty years or so of lambasting secularism and hoping in vain for establishing in India what Maududi termed 'Divine Government' (hukumat-e ilahiya) or the Islamic Caliphate, have only just begun to realize that this utterly fanciful agenda is proving to be seriously counter-productive, creating immense hurdles in the path of Islamic missionary work and in the struggle for the rights of religious minorities, including Muslims, in India. It is striking to note here that these people have been compelled to accept secularism as the best available option. Theirs is not a choice willingly made, but one which they feel themselves forced, almost against their will, to accept because they realize that in India they have no other realistic option—the only alternative to a secular state in India being a Hindu state. This dualism in their thought is both a product as well as an indicator of the utter confusion and chaos that characterises contemporary Muslim political thought.

In this regard, the question must be raised that if such people do not willingly accept secularism or actually believe in it, but have been forced by circumstance (the fact of Muslims being in a minority in India) to pay lip-service to it, how far can they truly be loyal to a system based on secularism? How far can they help such a system if they have chosen to support secularism out of compulsion and not out of choice and conviction?

The emotionally-driven slogans of these people clamoring for what they call 'Divine Government' and the Caliphate in India have given added ammunition to anti-Muslim Hindutva forces in the country. Thus, in an interview given to the Urdu weekly Friday Special, the top BJP leader and former Home Minister Murli Manohar Joshi argued that if the Jamaat-e islami could talk of establishing an Islamic state in India, there was nothing wrong if the RSS demanded that India be declared a Hindu state.

It is an undeniable fact that Muslim religious leaders have grossly misunderstood the meaning of secularism in its true sense. They see secularism as wholly opposed to religion. This is reflected in the general tendency in Urdu circles to translate secularism as 'irreligiousness' (la-diniyat). This is completely incorrect. In actual fact, secularism does not imply anti-religiousness. Rather, it simply means that the state follows a policy of non-interference in the religious affairs of all its citizens.

There are two basic factors for the extremely erroneous understanding and interpretation of secularism in Islamic circles. One of these is the prevalence of a very narrow and restricted understanding of Islam. The second is the tendency to equate secularism with a certain strand of Western secularism that seeks not just to remove keep religion out of politics but also to uproot religion from society and from people's lives.  However, the fact remains that there is not just one form of secularism. Rather, it can be understood, interpreted, expressed and practically implemented diversely and in an expansive and flexible manner. Thus, for instance, a noted Arab scholar, Abdul Wahhab Masiri, speaks of two types of secularism. The first is what he calls 'total secularism' or 'comprehensive secularism (al-ilmaniya ash-shamila), and the other 'partial secularism' (al-ilmaniya al-juziya). The former does not have any place at all for religion in the lives of individuals and society, while the latter provides for religion to be kept apart from politics, especially in plural societies, where this is the only practicable solution.

Theocratic rule is a notion that is foreign in Islam, which has no room for priesthood. According to the famous Egyptian Islamic scholar, Mufti Muhammad Abduh, an Islamic government is a 'civil government' (al-dawlah al-madaniya). A 'civil government', he explains, is one that is established on the basis of human welfare and works for this purpose, keeping in mind the comprehensive interests of its citizens. In a similar vein, the noted thirteenth century Islamic scholar Izz Ibn Abdus Salam wrote in his Qawaid al-Ahkam, 'The aim of the shariah is to put an end to evil and strife and their causes and to promote the interests [of people] and the causes thereof.' He further added, 'People's interests as well as evils and strife and the causes thereof are indentified through human experience, customs and [other] reliable means.' This suggests the importance of human experience in devising structures, processes, and policies of governance.

It is not true to claim, as many Islamist ideologues and ulema do, that the 'Righteous Caliphate', the period of the first four Sunni Caliphs, has elaborated, expressed and fixed for all time all the features and details of Islamic government and governance. It is well-known that Abu Bakr nominated Umar as his successor, while the latter set up a committee of six persons to decide his successor. Obviously, this indicates, the methods of choosing a leader can differ according to the context.

The 'Righteous Caliphate' lasted, in practical terms, for a very short period of only thirty years. Undoubtedly, this system of governance was based on social justice and human welfare. However, to consider it the final Islamic model would mean accepting the argument that this model could not be realistically applied in later stages of history, and that it was rendered incapable of being applied after a short period of three decades.

Certain indispensable modifications in the concept of Islamic government had to be made in the early Islamic period itself, and this was accepted at both the ideological as well as practical levels. For instance, the later ulema and Islamic commentators rebutted the literal import of hadith reports that suggested that the Caliph must be from the tribe of Quraish. Likewise, the notion that there must be a single Caliph for Imam for the entire Islamic world was also negated. The noted twentieth century Indian Muslim thinker Allama Muhammad Iqbal went to the extent of claiming in his acclaimed magnum opus Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam that in today's world a single Muslim ummah simply does not exist. Rather, he argued, the world's Muslims consist of several different communities, and recognized that it was difficult for all of them to form a single commonwealth.

From this discussion, it clearly emerges that human experience plays a major role in the construction of the state structures. New human experiences emerge with changing times and conditions, and these need to be incorporated in crafting patterns and processes of governance, contrary to what doctrinaire Islamists and ulema might argue. This is also indicated in the Quran, which speaks of monarchy as being a blessing from God (5: 20) although in today we are all aware of the pitfalls of this form of governance. In this regard, all we can say is that monarchy was more suited to the context and times this particular verse of the Quran referred to, although for today democracy is for more preferable.

A vital basis for dialogue between Islam and secularism, and evidence that such dialogue is indeed acceptable in terms of the shariah, is the polity established in Medina by the Prophet. The Constitution of this polity was, in a sense, based on the same princples that secularism (in its widely-accepted Indian sense) is founded on—equality and respect for the religious freedom of all communities. The leading ulema of the Deoband school, it is instructive to note, invoked the Constitution of Medina to legitimize their role in their struggle for a united and free India.

The noted Deobandi scholar Maulana Saeed Ahmad Akbaradi was of the view that there was no contradiction between Islam and secularism, as understood in its particular Indian sense. This approach to both secularism and Islam, I believe, is the only practicable one for plural societies today, and can serve as a firm basis for a meaningful dialogue between Islam and secularism, and between believing Muslims and secularists.

 

Maulana Waris Mazhari is the editor of the New Delhi-based monthly Tarjuman Dar ul-Uloom, the official organ of the Graduates' Association of the Deoband madrasa. He can be contacted on w.mazhari@gmail.com

 

Yoginder Sikand works with the Centre for the Study of Social Exclusion at the National Law School, Bangalore.

 

 

 

 




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[ALOCHONA] Please join us on May 29, 2010 (Saturday) by 5:30 pm to enjoy BAAI's Rabindro Joyonti, Nazrul Joyonti, & Welcome Bangla New Year 1417. [1 Attachment]

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Bangladesh Association of America, Inc. (BAAI) ®

(Washington DC, Virginia, Maryland)
presents
a super entertaining "three-in-one" event filled evening
 
 ~ Rabindro Joyonti ~
~ Nazrul Joyonti ~
&
~ Welcome Bangla New Year 1417 ~
 
 
Date: May 29, 2010 (Saturday) 
 
Time: from 5:30 pm to 10:30 pm
{We expect to start program on-time, because we are going to present three (3) highly attractive individual events in one evening. 
Therefore, we are strongly requesting you to arrive by 5:30 pm.} 
 
Location: Robert E. Lee High School
6540 Franconia Road
Springfield, Virginia 22150
 
Admission:  FREE
 
 
EVENT HIGHLIGHTS:
 
Details of the events will be announced after the first week of May 2010.   
 
At the end of our show, we will throw an exciting & attracting quiz game "Who is the most attentive guest in the audience?".  We will ask few questions on different segments & slots of the whole program.  Whoever among the audience can answer most of the questions correctly, he/she will get a very good prize and will win the title as "The Most Attentive Guest".  To win the prize & to get title as "The Most Attentive Guest", you must watch the whole program very attentively from the beginning to end and take notes.
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Directions: From interstate 95 in Virginia, take exit 169A (Franconia Road) towards route 644 East.  Keep left on Franconia Road.  After a little while, make a U-TURN onto Franconia Road.  Robert E. Lee High School (6540 Franconia Road) is located on your right side.  Park your car very closed to Gymnasium.  The closest entrance to the auditorium is through door 14 (next to Gymnasium entrance).
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 
Please bring your family, relatives, & friends on May 29, 2010 (Saturday) by 5:30 pm to enjoy a super fun-filled "three-in-one" evening. 
 
Best Regards,
 
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[ALOCHONA] Shutting down private TV channels



Shutting down private TV channels
 
by Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury

Current government in Bangladesh shut down another satellite based private television channel last week. Channel-One, a popular television channel commenced its broadcast few years back, when BNP-Jamaat coalition government was in power. During that time, a number of broadcast licenses were issued in favor of several influential members of the ruling coalition. Channel-One is one of those 'fortunate' ones.

Trend of shutting down private television channels began right in 1999 when Awami League was first in power. At that time, the government shut down country's first private television channel named ATV [earlier A-21 TV] and brought false accusation of 'smuggling information via satellite'. Later, the court of Metropolitan Session Judge in Dhaka [Bangladesh] not only dismissed the case, but made strong remarks criticizing the government for bringing such fabricated case against the promoters of country's first private television channel. Though fresh applications were submitted with the subsequent governments with the copy of the court order seeking fresh permission to re-commence the broadcast of country's first private television channel, none of the governments ever considered this as the owners of the channel were not members of any of the political houses in the country.

The tendency of slicing down voice of the media continued during the next government, when BNP-Jamaat coalition won the general election in 2001. Broadcast license of Ekushey Television, the first private owned terrestrial TV channel was cancelled and later the channel was shut down due to court order. Huge number of journalists and employees of the channel turned unemployed overnight.

When military controlled interim government was in power, broadcast of country's only new based channel named CSBC was snatched as the military controlled regime felt uncomfortable at the prolific reporting in the channel.

Before the general election of 2008, current Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina made specific pledge of according total freedom to media. But as soon as it came in power, there has been specific tendency of shutting down television channels owned by political opponents while issuing license to party leaders and affiliates with the aim of establishing monopoly in the electronic media, where no criticism of the government would ever be allowed.

While I am very much against the very 'theme' of shutting down television channels, it is important for me also to mention a gross via lotion of rules by the past BNP-Jamaat government, while issuing broadcast license to its party affiliates.

Ekushey Television's broadcast license was cancelled by the BNP-Jamaat government at the instigation of some of the so-called 'think-tanks' of it. It was alleged that, founder of this television channel got the license in his own name, which he later illegally transferred to a company. If this was the legal ground to cancel the licence of Ekushey TV, how the same government allowed issuing another license to NTV [a channel owned by the political secretary of the then Prime Minister]? It may be mentioned here that the political secretary of the then PM purchased the ownership of Total Entertainment Netrowk [TEN] TV, which was owned by a businessman named Sajjad Ali. This channel came into broadcast just for couple of months before it was closed down by the owners due to severe financial crisis.

If the transferring shares of Ekushey TV was seen as illegal by the BNP-Jamaat government, how the same government issued broadcast license to NTV with the transferred share documents of TEN TV? Subsequently, owner of NTV started a second channel named RTV. It is logically argued by many that, if the very birth of NTV was illegal, there is no legitimacy of RTV and in such case; both the channels should be immediately shut down.

Same thing happens in case of BOISHAKHI TV, a private television channel, share of which was recently transferred to a 'multi-level marketing company' by the owners of the channel.

Most importantly, while Bangladesh Telecommunications Regulatory Commission sweats to find out irregularities in private television channel, they are ignoring one extremely important point. All of the private television channels need to pay substantial amount of rental to the satellites for using their transponders for broadcast. According to a recent information of Bangladesh Bank, none of the channels ever applied for permission for such transfer of foreign currency to the satellite operators for years. In this case, it is easily anticipated that such huge amount of money is sent to the satellite operators through illegal means, which is an offense under Money Laundering Act.

Another source in National Board of Revenue said, the private television channels are required to pay 15 per cent of the revenue collected from advertisement as Value Added Tax [VAT]. But, NBR claims that, none of the channels ever paid even fraction of the justified amount of VAT to the National Exchequer. If appropriate investigation will be conducted on this area, it will be revealed that, all of the channels are continuing to evade millions of Taka only from this specific sector.

I am not mentioning these irregularities to give any provocation to the government in shutting down more television channels in the country. The reason behind raising these points is to make one clear point that, if the government gets determined in suffocating the voice of any of the private television channels, they can always find ready tools in hand. But, this will not ultimately bring anything good for the very image of the government. With the closure of each of the television channels, hundreds of journalists and employees will turn unemployed. Hopefully, this does not go in favor of the electoral pledge of the current government, which gave specific commitment to the nation of doing everything in resolving the unemployment issue in the country. But, at least in media sector, the government is, contributing in deepening the unemployment crisis instead of resolving it. Hopefully, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina will kindly look into this matter, with sympathy and affection for the members of media in Bangladesh.

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Fwd: [ALOCHONA] Re: Tagore Deification








"
Muslims are heard praying to Allah to put Hindus into the fire of hell, when they hear about their death.
 
Do Muslims also pray to Allah to place Tagore in hell on the Day of Judgment?
 
Mohammad Asghar"
 
Mr. Asghar,
 
This is not accurate. Muslims are not in a position to send anyone to hell. Our Maker is the only one to make such decitions. I am afraid this sort of distortion should be checked and stopped by all fair minded alochoks. Such action is not supported by Islam and God is the ultimate judge.
 
Shalom.
 
--qr



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Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Tagore Deification

 
Does islam enjoined the muslims to pray for Tagore for Allah to cast him unto the blazing fire of hell?


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Subject: Re: Tagore Deification

Most educated Bangladeshi Muslims love Tagore, more than they love their own parents. His birthday is celebrated with great fanfare. His death anniversary is observed with great solemnity.
 
Most homes in Bangladesh of educated Muslims have his pictures, despite the fact that Tagore was a Hindu and he is reported to have disliked Muslims from the core of his heart.
 
Muslims are heard praying to Allah to put Hindus into the fire of hell, when they hear about their death.
 
Do Muslims also pray to Allah to place Tagore in hell on the Day of Judgment?
 
Mohammad Asghar
 

 


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Subject: Tagore Deification

 
"Tagore speaks of the " Heavenly Kingdom "---the "almighty God" and "Soul". If these could remove us from misery what would be the use of man's Endeavour to reform the world? We oppose Tagore, who tries to stunt the growth of self-determination and the struggle of oppressed classes and races". Chinese Communist Party
 
What is this near absolute cult-like blanket status granted to Tagore by the educated sheeps of Aipaar and Oyeepaar Bangla? What is this about the Bengalees who love to deify anything or anybody they fall in love with?
Sujit K. Bhattacharjee, the great Tagore lover opines, "he is the greatest literary genius the world has ever seen". Greatest genius? Let's try this. Was he a better short story writer than Leo Tolstoy? Was his Geetanjali better than Tolstoy's War and Peace? Did he write anything comparable to Dostoevsky's Crime & Punishment?  How can the Nobel committee chose Geetanjali over that epic War & Peace? Was he better than Shakespeare in poetry? Was he better than George Bernard Shaw as a playwright? Was he better than Shakespeare as a dramatist? Honestly tell me, is he better than Ludwig Van Beethoven or Wolfgang Mozart as a composer?  Are you telling me that Tagore as an Essayist surpassed the Essayist, E.B White? In fact, Hazrat Google informed me that Tagore's name is not even included in the list of 100 greatest novelists of all time! Why do these Bengalees get all touchy and feely when anything about Robindronath is questioned? What is this inveterate admiration of Tagore by the second rate Bangla-Babus of this world? Wasn't he a mere mortal ? What is this tendency among the Bengalees for deification of a personality? What is this cult mentality? As long as we keep on deifying him, how can we ever judge him as a human being? Where is the difference between blind Mohammed lovers and blind Tagore lovers? Where is the difference between those who recite holly Quran to get their cancer cured and those who listen to Robindroshongeet to get cured from their deadly earthly sojourn?  In Calcutta , on December 16, 1911, Robindronath sung Jana Gana Mana to welcome King George V.  This poem sung high praises of the King of England—calling him the Bharat Bhaggyyaa Vidhaata-Dispenser of India 's Destiny! Next day all the newspapers reported it was a magnificent salute to a mighty King. There is no doubt in my mind that he had written the song to felicitate the King Emperor of England and his Colonial Empire. Who is this Bharat Bhagya Vidhata?  Who is this Adhinaayek? When attacked viciously by the nationalist forces of India , Tagore clarified that the song was written in praise of God. Alas the damage was already done! Nehrujee did admit that the song was in praise of the King!!! I am astounded by the behavior of Tagore lovers. Most of them have only herd instinct like the members of the jealous desert cults. You see, until we chose to slay the gods—we shall never be free as people.   
 
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[ALOCHONA] The Water Cure



The Water Cure: An interview with Dr. Batmanghelidj

A NaturalNews Special Report by Mike Adams

http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_water_cure_0.html

Physicians rarely promote the curative properties of H2O, but Dr. Batmanghelidj, M.D. has studied water's effect on the human body and has found it to be one of the best pain relievers and preventative therapies in existence. I was one of the last people to interview the late Dr. Batmanghelidj, and I listened in awe as he shared his research and stories about "The Healing Power of Water."

In a fascinating one-hour phone conversation, Dr. B. shares:

• Which common ailments and "diseases" are actually caused by dehydration

• Why many doctors use water-regulating antihistamines to alleviate pain

• How Dr. Batmanghelidj unintentionally discovered water's healing properties

• Why most people are chronically dehydrated and suffer from symptoms of dehydration that are labeled "diseases"

• Which ingredients in soft drinks deplete the body's water reserves

• Why thirst is not a reliable indicator of dehydration

• Why the body produces cholesterol and how water keeps it in balance

• Why Dr. Batmanghelidj believes the public is being mislead about AIDS

• How dehydration impairs mental functioning

• Why some organizations want to withhold alternative health information from the public

• How lack of water causes depression

• Why popular beverages are no substitute for water

• How dehydration causes the vascular system to constrict, leading to hypertension

• How to recognize signs that your body is starting to dehydrate

• Why restaurants push you to drink disease-promoting soft drinks

• Why and how water effectively treats pain and inflammation

Discovery of the water cure

Mike: Welcome everyone, this is Mike Adams with Truth Publishing, and today I'm very excited to be welcoming Dr. Batmanghelidj, author of Water For Health, For Healing, For Life. Welcome, Dr. Batmanghelidj.

Dr. B: Thank you very much for inviting me to be on the air with you and giving me the opportunity of sharing my thoughts on the future of medicine in this country.

Mike: I think there are many, many people who have read your books. People are intrigued by the idea that water can be a therapy, a healing substance for the human body. What is it about water? How did you first become aware of these healing properties of water?

Dr. B: Well, it's very bizarre. As you know, I'm a regular doctor, an M.D. I had the honor and the privilege of being selected as one of the house doctors, and I had the extreme honor of being one of the last students of Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of penicillin. I mention his name so that you know I was immersed in medical school and research. And some years later, I had to give two glasses of water to a person who was doubled up in abdominal pain from his disease, because I had no other medication to give him at that moment. And he was in excruciating pain, and water performed miraculous relief for him. It gave him relief -- within three minutes his pain diminished, and within eight minutes it disappeared completely, whereas he was doubled up eight minutes before and he couldn't even walk, he completely recovered from that situation. And he started beaming from ear to ear, very happy, asked me what happens if the pain comes back? I said, "Well, drink more water." Then I decided to instruct him to drink two glasses of water every three hours. Which he did, and that was the end of his ulcer pains for the rest of the duration that he was with me.

Mike: And from that episode then, what happened next?

Dr. B: That woke me up, because in medical school I'd never heard that water could cure pain, that kind of pain, in fact. And so I had the occasion to test water as a medication in subsequently over 3,000 similar cases. And water proved every time to be an effective medication. I came away from that experience with the understanding that these people were all thirsty, and that thirst in the body can manifest itself in the form of abdominal pain to the level that the person can even become semi-conscious, because that's the experience I had. And water picks them up every time.

So when I came to America in 1982, I went to the University of Pennsylvania, where I was invited to continue my research, and did research in the pain-relieving properties of water. I asked myself, why does the pharmaceutical industry insist on using antihistamines for this kind of pain medication? So I started researching the role of histamine in the body, and the answer was there -- histamine is a neurotransmitter in charge of water regulation and the drought management programs of the body. When it manifests pain, in fact, it is indicating dehydration.

So, the body does manifest dehydration in the form of pain. Now, depending on where dehydration is settled, you feel pain there. Very simple, and I presented this concept at the international conference as the guest lecturer of a conference on cancer, explaining that the human body manifests dehydration by producing pain, and pain is a sign of water shortage in the body, and water shortage is actually the background to most of the health problems in our society.

Because if you look at what the pharmaceutical industry is doing, they're producing so many different antihistamines as medication. Antidepressant drugs are antihistamines, pain medication are antihistamines, other medications are directly and indirectly antihistamines. So, that is when my work was published, the scientific secretariat of the 3rd Interscience Board Conference of Inflammation invited me to make this presentation on histamine at their conference in 1989, in Monte Carlo. And I did that, and so it became a regular understanding that histamine is a water regulator in the body. But unfortunately, this information is not reaching the public through the medical community because it's not a money-maker.

So that's when I began to consider writing for the public, so that the public could become aware of the problem directly without the interference of a doctor, and that's how I have generated all my medical information for the public. Of course, I have published extensively for the scientific community, but no one is picking up. In fact, the NIH, the Office of Alternative Medicine, had its first conference when the office was created, and I was asked to make my presentation, but when the proceedings of the conference came out, my presentation was censored after the proceedings. So there is a movement afoot within the NIH group of people to keep a closed lid on my information so that it doesn't get out, because obviously they are more in favor of the drug industry, because it is now obvious that they are getting paid by them.

Mike: I think it is, first of all, that is an amazing account of what has been happening, and I think it is fair to say, too, that the pharmaceutical industry and organized medicine in general, really doesn't want to promote anything that is free or near-free to the average patient. Sunlight is available at no charge, water is available at nearly no charge -- would you agree that their thinking is if people can cure their diseases, and achieve a high state of health on their own with these free substances, then that diminishes their profits and their importance?

Dr. B: Absolutely. That's why I've created an organization now called National Association for Honesty in Medicine. Because I think it's totally dishonest, in fact, criminal, to treat a person who is just thirsty, and give them toxic medication so that he gets sick and dies earlier than normal.

Mike: Can you give out the web address to that organization, by the way?

Dr. B: My website is
http://www.watercure.com -- it gives you the option of going to one site or the other -- either Water Cure.com, or you can go the National Association for Honesty in Medicine. Or you can go to the information side of my website, http://www.watercure.com, because I have posted all of my scientific articles on dehydration on the website, and lots of other free information that people can have.

AIDS and the Pharmaceutical Industry

Mike: I want to applaud what I call your scientific curiosity. I think this is the kind of curiosity that has been lost in so much of western medicine, where a true scientist observes nature and observes the interaction between humans and nature, and remains curious and open and to all possibilities, and then forms conclusions after rigorous testing, and I think so much of modern science has drawn erroneous conclusions without really remaining open-minded...

Dr B: Yes, one of the worst ones is AIDS. Because everyone assumes that AIDS is actually a viral disease, which is a fraudulent statement by those people who presented it, because the human body is the product of many, many years of having fought various viral diseases, and has survived. Smallpox, polio, measles, and all the other viruses that can kill very easily, and the body has an ability to mount a defense system against these hot viruses, viruses that actually very quickly can kill. But having survived those, how is it possible that the slow virus would kill us in the name of AIDS? I can't understand it.

I have researched this topic extensively, and I have shown in fact that AIDS is a metabolic problem, when the body begins to cannibalize its own tissue because of certain missing elements in the raw materials that it receives through food or beverages, and the body of a person who gets AIDS, actually, is short of quite a number of building block amino acids. They're short of tyrosine, they're short of methionine, cysteine, they're short of histidine, and they've got a whole lot of others in excess. So how can we expect a body that depends on the other amino acids to survive?

Mike: Once again we see AIDS is a huge industry for the pharmaceutical industry.

Dr. B: Well, of course it is, and the whole entire existence of the pharmaceutical industry is based on presentation of false science, and advertising this false science and drumming it into the minds of gullible people who have no curiosity to find out why that is so.

Cholesterol

Dr. B: Another false science is the question of cholesterol. Cholesterol is one of the most essential elements in the survival of the human body. When the body begins to make more cholesterol, it has a reason to do that. It is certainly not to block the arteries of the heart, because we measure the level of cholesterol in the body in the blood we take out of the veins of the body, and nowhere in the history of medicine is there recorded one single case of cholesterol ever having blocked the veins of the body.

So, it is not the stickiness of the cholesterol that is the problem, which the drug industry is drumming it into the minds of people -- cholesterol is sticky, reduce it otherwise you will have blockage of your arteries, which is all nonsense. Cholesterol is actually saving the lives of people, because cholesterol is a bandage, a waterproof bandage that the body has designed. When the blood becomes concentrated and acidic, and is being rushed through constricted arteries or capillaries, in dehydration, then abrasions and tears are produced in the arterial system, naturally, in the capillaries of the heart first.

Now if cholesterol wasn't there to cover up the tear and abrasions, blood would get under the membrane and peel it off and that person would be dead instantly. Cholesterol is actually an interim lifesaver, giving the body time to recover from its problems. We never understood this. We are knee-jerk doctors. We think that something's up, bring it down, if something's down, bring it up. We don't ask questions why is it down or why is it up?

Mike: And the pharmaceutical companies know that treating cholesterol is a huge industry...

Dr. B: It's a ten-billion dollar industry. Now there is a report that actually these statins, cholesterol-lowering drugs produce amnesia. In other words, the brain totally loses track of what it's doing, and it is published by a doctor who is an eminent doctor. He was a flight surgeon, he is a researcher at NASA. And he knows what he's talking about. He had the problem himself.

Mike: I just wanted to comment on the number of side effects that have been recorded as side effects from using statin drugs. Some people have extreme muscular pain, that amnesia you mentioned seems to be very common, and yet a study just came out, I saw it this morning, talking about how blueberries have phytonutrients that are shown to lower so-called fatty cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, more powerfully than statin drugs.

Dr. B: It's interesting, because you see, the body manufactures cholesterol as an emergency situation, when it raises the level of its production. Its normal rate of production is of course is to create membranes for the cell membranes and brain cells and nerve insulation and of course the hormones of the body, vitamin D for the body. So these are the essential components that cholesterol makes in the body. We should never interfere with cholesterol without knowing why the body has starting raising its level.
No substitute for water

Mike: I have a question for you on water -- a lot of people think that they are hydrating themselves when they consume soft drinks or milk or Gatorade or all these other liquid beverages…

Dr. B: Gatorade is possibly okay, but Gatorade has sugar in it, and it's not particularly good for people who might even get hypoglycemic, or might induce insulin secretion, and that insulin secretion will produce more hunger and they overeat. But as a temporary sport drink, it's okay when you're in the middle of a golf game to drink a Gatorade. It immediately gives you a bit of the minerals that you probably will have lost sweating.

But nothing substitutes for water -- not a thing. No drink -- no coffee, no tea, no alcoholic beverages. Not even fruit juices. Each one of them has its own agenda. Your body is used to a fluid that has no agenda, because the body depends on the freedom of that fluid, water, because there are two kinds of water in the body. There is already occupied and engaged water, which is no good for new function. The body needs new water, or free water, to perform new functions. Now, when you give them sugar containing beverages, or caffeine containing beverages, both sugar and caffeine have their own chemical agenda in the body. They defeat the purpose of the need for water.

Mike: You're also talking about soft drinks here…

Dr. B: I'm talking about soft drinks, I'm talking about sodas, I'm talking about caffeine containing coffee or tea. I'm also talking about alcohol, because alcohol actually stops the emergency water supply systems to the important cells, such as the brain cells. In the reverse osmosis process your body filters and injects water into the cells, and this is what I call reverse osmosis. And it has to raise the blood pressure for that in order to overcome the osmotic pull of water out of the cells, and reinject water into the cells. That's why we develop high-blood pressure in dehydration. And this process of reverse osmosis is stopped by alcohol. It stops the filter system.

Chronic Disease Caused by Lack of Water

Mike: Let me start this next section by asking you about the correlation between water consumption and chronic disease. There are many diseases you mention in your books that are related to dehydration. I wonder if you can give our readers a brief of what the major diseases are and why they are aggravated or promoted by chronic dehydration.

Dr. B: Certainly, Mike. I have written a book called Water Cures and Drugs Kill. It's a book that explains why dehydration is the cause of pain and disease, and how the pharmaceutical industry has camouflaged this information or covered it up and instead of letting people drink water, it advertises the use of their products, which actually do kill. Because recent figures have shown that prescription medications, when used according to the instruction of doctors, nonetheless kill over 106,000 people, and make 2 million people sicker than before taking the medication. And then there is another group who die from faulty prescriptions, incorrect prescriptions.

So between them, about 250,000 people die from drug-related problems, medication-related problems. This makes the drugs the use of drugs the number three killer processes in the country -- protected and licensed killer process. After heart disease, which kills about seven or eight hundred thousand, cancer which kills about 500,000, drugs kill 250,000 people.

Mike: So it's fair to say that pharmaceuticals, as packaged by modern medicine, are the third leading cause of death in this country.

Dr. B: Absolutely, and they are useless, because most of the medication they are using is to cover up symptoms and signs and complications of dehydration in the human body. The human body manifests dehydration by a series of symptoms and signs, perceptive symptoms of dehydration -- in other words, brain senses dehydration, or tiredness when you haven't done a good day's work, or first thing in the morning when you want to get up out of bed and you're tired, you can't get up -- that is a sign of dehydration. Then anger, quick reaction, depression, these are all signs of dehydration, when the brain has very little energy from hydroelectricity to cope with the information or take action. These are some of the perceptive signs of dehydration. Then the body has its drought management program, which are allergies, hypertension, diabetes, and also immune diseases.

The link between dehydration and asthma

Mike: I'd like you to elaborate a little more on asthma, and the idea that the body is managing its water supply deliberately in a way that produces symptoms that are called asthma.

Dr. B: Yes, well you see, drought management means that you have to clog the holes where water is lost from the body. Water is the most precious commodity in the interior of your body, and when not enough is coming in and more is being lost, this is a no-no situation for your body. The intelligence behind the design of the body has it such that a drought management program will kick in, and then allergies are a sign of dehydration because the system that regulates water balance of the body suppresses the immune system, because it's an energy-consuming situation. Then you get asthma.

You see, we lose about a quart of water through breathing every day. It is actually the surface tension in the alveoli of the lungs that produces contraction of these tiny membranes, and air is pushed out. And in the process, that water will leave with the air that is leaving. So you lose about a quart of water in breathing. We need to replenish that. When we don't replenish it, the body tightens up the bronchials and plugs up the holes and we call this reduced air flow in the lungs because of dehydration, we've labeled it as asthma.

Mike: Right. I've always been amazed that the willingness of modern medicine or western medicine to come up with these complicated sounding labels or names for diseases that should really have simpler names.

Dr. B: Jargon peddling is the way of commercial medicine. Sick-care system survives and thrives on pushing these jargons into the minds of the people, because people don't understand what these jargons, they hear them and they don't associate with anything in the body, but associate them with those jargons of fear that are drummed in the minds of people.

Now, children, there are 17 million children in America, probably more because the numbers rise every year, who have asthma, and the reason is, at the same time, children have been consuming more and more sodas. Three year olds to five year olds have been consuming three times as much soda in the last ten years than in the ten years before that. So these people are getting dehydrated, they are consuming more sodas, which doesn't function in the same way as water, and that is why they get asthma. Now, give these children water, and their asthma will disappear very quickly, in a matter of a few hours, completely the breathing becomes normal. The need for these inhalers will disappear.

And when I contacted the NIH and explained all of this, the gentleman who was in charge of this said I was so ignorant on what was going on, and yet he wanted to protect his freedom, and so he ignored the information even though I had gone to Clinton, President Clinton to ask him to intervene, and give breath back to these children. But the NIH was adamant to use medication. He wrote me, actually, and said we are satisfied with the way asthma is being treated. So, this is the situation. Now 17 million children is America can recover in a matter of a few days if everyone in the country started talking to asthmatic people and saying water is what you should take. Can you imagine a solution so simple?

Mike: Yes. Yes I can, and there are many such solutions available to treat a great number of chronic diseases, just like you've been describing here. Of course, the pharmaceutical industry I think would be horrified to have that information become widespread.

Dr. B: Yeah, well, because what I'm saying is totally anti-business, and we are not talking about a few hundred thousand dollars, we are talking about a few billion dollars a year.

Treating hypertension with water

Mike: For the pharmaceutical industry, the existence of disease is a business question, because let's face it, the pharmaceutical industry is a for-profit industry. Profits are always first, and at least it's my belief, and it seems that you share it, that any therapy that competes with those profits is minimized, marginalized or outright attacked.

Dr. B: Yes, recently there was an ad on the television. It was very interesting -- I didn't realize it at the beginning, but I now realize that the ad was speaking to me. In other words, it was an ad against my statements. Because I've said that the heartburn is a sign of dehydration in the human body and you should drink water. And this guy comes and sits at the counter and asks, "Give me a glass of water, my heartburn is killing me." Or something like that. And the lady behind the counter says, "Water doesn't cure heartburn -- this medication does." So see, this is how the pharmaceutical industry fights the information that I put out. But nonetheless, people who did discover that water could cure their heartburn are wiser than those who buy into that advertising stunt.

Mike: It seems like there are almost two different groups of people in the United States. There are those who are now dependent on multiple pharmaceuticals to treat everything, every symptom that they have, and who alter their body chemistry and their brain chemistry through drugs, and then there are those who are educating themselves about the true causes of health. They're drinking water, they're avoiding food additives, they're engaging in exercise -- it seems like there's a chasm that's widening between these two groups.

Dr. B: Absolutely. That's why alternative medicine has picked up and you're getting more people going to alternative medicine than conventional medicine. You see, I've sold at least over 600,000 copies of my book Your Body's Many Cries for Water over the past 10 years. And so I've had over several thousand radio interviews in the past 10 years. Information is getting out into the hands of the public, so the pharmaceutical industry has to naturally increase its advertising to nullify this information that I have put out. That is why they have produced this ad -- one of many, actually.

Anyway, we were talking about drought management programs in the body. Hypertension is another one of these problems. When there isn't enough water in the body, or the body becomes dehydrated, 66% of the water loss is from the interior of the cells. 26% is from the environment around the cells, and only 8% is lost from the vascular system. But the vascular system is an elastic system -- it tightens up and takes up the slack so you don't see the problem that is going on inside the cells of your body by testing your blood that is being tested in so many conditions. If people drank water on a regular basis and took enough salt and minerals to expand the capillary beds, hypertension would disappear completely.

And there are 60 million Americans who don't realize that actually hypertension is one of the manifestations of drought management programs of the body when the body begins to operate a reverse osmosis process, to deliver water into the interior of those cells which are 66% water deficient. Now the pharmaceutical industry and the medical doctors arrogantly and ignorantly are treating hypertension with diuretics.

Mike: Let's get rid of the water!

Dr. B: They are getting rid of the water in the body, at a lot of, how shall I say, effort.

Mike: Isn't this an example of the arrogance of modern medicine in believing that it knows more than nature, it knows more than the body?

Dr. B: We, as doctors, are really 007 agents of the pharmaceutical industry. We are totally blind and ignorant and the pharmaceutical industry has hijacked medicine. We learn a couple of years of physiology, and soon as we go on the clinical side we are asked to forget those and begin to learn pharmacology in order to treat symptoms rather than understand the primary cause of the health problem.

Mike: But you were trained in classic, conventional way...

Dr. B: I had to educate myself.

Thinking outside the box

Mike: What it is that drove you to explore beyond the limited thinking of conventional medicine?

Dr. B: I'm always a curious person. I've been a curious person ever since I was born as far as I know. One day we had a thief come into the house and was on the wall, and I was only a two and a half year old boy. I went to him and said, "What are you doing here? Can't you see you're scaring everyone? Why don't you go?" I wasn't scared, I was curious.

That is what I am, right throughout my life, and that is why when I discovered that water cures pain, then this was an entrance for me to get into it and find out what was the reason. And that was when I discovered that my education was no good. I didn't learn medicine, I learned a little bit of anatomy and a little bit of histology, which stood me in good stead in order to understand the rest of the stuff.

Mike: You are, I'm sure the listeners would agree here, you are to be applauded for being able to venture outside of conventional medicine.

Dr. B: I'm only a healer because that's my way of thinking. I don't think about money, because money is, if you do a good deed, money will come as a by product of that good deed.

Mike: I agree with you wholeheartedly there.

Dr. B: You don't have to try and take the last drop of blood out of a person who comes to you in order to get help from you. That is against my nature. That's why I've put out my information for everyone to use on the internet, and it is only for further use or further education that I have produced my books and so on, and those books unfortunately, the cost of printing, distribution, forces the price on the information. If the pharmaceutical industry had the information that they were going to sell, for example the information in my book Your Body's Many Cries For Water, they would ask for $10,000 a book, not $14.95.

Mike: And, if they could, they would patent water...

Dr. B: They would patent it.

Mike: And try to sell it to you at $100 a dose, right?

Dr. B: That's right. So, basically, this is what's going on in medicine in America. Joint pain, back pain, arthritis cause by chronic dehydration Dr. B.: The human body also has its emergency calls for water. These are localized emergency calls. We call these heartburn, rheumatoid joint pain, back pain, migraine headaches, colitis pain, fibromyalgiac pain, even angina pain -- signs of dehydration in the body.

And the mechanism is very simple -- when there isn't enough water to be evenly distributed and certain parts of the body are working but not receiving enough water to deal with its toxic waste and metabolism, and the toxic waste builds up that area, the nerve endings in that area register the chemical environmental change with the brain. And the brain translates this information for the conscious mind in the form of pain.

Mike: So it's just the interpretation?

Dr. B: It's an interpretation, yes. So the conscious mind gets the information that, hey, this area we can't use anymore, it has a shortage of water. Of course, the conscious mind should have known that, but bad education has robbed us of that information. We think this pain is a disease.

Mike: The predominant diagnosis of this, of course, I think in the minds of most people, and especially in most M.D.s would be that there is something physically or structurally compromised in that area.

Dr. B: Well, of course, the compromise is when the tissue is dehydrated, it's changing structure. The plum-like cells become prune-like. Prune-like cells do not function in the same manners as a plum-like cell. So, that is how symptoms are produced. These symptoms mean, okay, let us get the ingredients that the body needs into the system. Now, when we say dehydration, water also brings a lot of other goodies to the cells. When we are dehydrated, these goodies are not delivered either. So, we need not only correct dehydration, but also to supply the minerals and vitamins and so on so that the body can repair itself.

Thirst perception not reliable

Mike: I'd like to you talk about how people can know when they need to drink water, because you talk about in the book how some of the signs of dehydration, the classic signs are not necessarily the only signs, and also how much should an average person be drinking?

Dr. B: First and foremost, don't wait until you get thirsty, because that's an error. Unfortunately, the National Academy of Sciences and some other people recently have been telling people to wait until they get thirsty before they drink, which is the main error that we inherited 100 years ago from a man called Walter Bradford Cannon. And that's why, at the time, there was a Frenchman saying that dehydration or thirst is a general sensation and we should study it, and Walter Bradford Cannon said, no, thirst is only a matter of dry mouth.

When the mouth is dry we are thirsty, which is an arrogant statement, and unfortunately western medicine bought into that understanding, and that's why we have a sick-care system, because from the age of 20 onwards, we gradually, imperceptibly become dehydrated without knowing it. We lose our perception of thirst. By the age of 70 we may be totally thirsty and obviously thirsty and yet not recognize the need to drink water, even when water is put next to us.

This was done as an experiment. A scientist asked a group of elderly people to withhold from drinking water for 24 hours, and similarly with young people. After 24 hours when water was made available, the elderly did not recognize that they were thirsty.

Mike: Even after 24 hours with no water?

Dr. B: Correct. Even when water was left next to them, some of them wouldn't reach for it. But the young people drank water, and corrected this dehydration. Now, this is a major problem, and that's why we have so many people in the elderly sector of our society who are sick, because they are totally dehydrated and they do not recognize it.

So, waiting to get thirsty is to die prematurely and very painfully. In fact, this is the title of an article that is posted on my website,
www.WaterCure.com, and also on NAFHIM, National Association For Honesty In Medicine (http://www.nafhim.org).

We should not wait to get thirsty, because water is the main source of energy. By the time you get thirsty, you will have lost energy from the water that you should have drunk and made available before you get thirsty. So, if you don't allow the gas tank of your car to come dry before you stop and take some gas, then why should you let your body become thirsty so that it stalls on the roadside before you drink water?

So, first thing, people should never allow themselves to get thirsty -- they should drink throughout the day. An average person needs two quarts of water a day. Average person really needs four quarts of water a day. But two quarts we have to supply. Two quarts we get from food metabolism and water content in foods. We need this amount of water to manufacture at least two quarts of urine. You know, not to put pressure on the kidneys. When we drink enough water so that the urine is colorless, that is a good sign. When the urine becomes yellow, it means that the body is beginning to become dehydrated and when it becomes orange, then the body is truly dehydrated and some part of the body is suffering from that dehydration.

Mike: So this is a very easy sign that people can pay attention to.

Dr. B: Absolutely.

Mike: They don't need a medical degree to see the color of their urine.

Dr. B: Well, that's why we should become observant to our urine production. And breathing -- when we are short of breath, it means we are dehydrated.

Mike: Are there other similar, simple symptoms that people can pay attention to?

Dr. B: The skin -- if the skin is nice and loose and smooth, then we are hydrated. If it becomes creasy and shriveled, it means dehydration. The crow's feet on the face of elderly people, that's a sign of dehydration. The turkey neck under the chin is a sign of dehydration. These are mentioned in my books, Your Body's Many Cries for Water, and also in my Water For Health, For Healing, For Life. I recommend everyone to read Water Cures, Drugs Kill, because in this book I've identified over 90 health problems that we in medicine have called disease, and yet water cures them.

So, when the body is short of water and they give it medication, naturally the person will die, because the medication is silencing the many cries of the body for water. But it's not correcting the dehydration. So we need to understand these symptoms of dehydration, and the book Water Cures, Drugs Kill will do that. People can order through the internet at
http://www.watercure.com or Amazon.com or
Barnesandnoble.com or go to the bookstore and get it.

Mike: You have an upcoming book on obesity, cancer, and depression, right?

Dr. B: Yes, I've got a book called Obesity, Cancer and Depression: The Common Cause and Actual Cure. I've identified why these three diseases are actually the branches of the same tree, and each one naturally produces a different problem at different age brackets, but they are all related conditions that occur as a result of dehydration over time. Time is of essence -- when incrementally we become dehydrated, the prune-like cells begin to transform. Some of them become cancerous, and I've explained all of this in the book. I explain how dehydration suppresses the immune system, directly or indirectly, and that's how most diseases occur, including cancer.

Mike: When is this book going to be published?

Dr. B: It will be available by the end of the year. People can keep an eye on the website
http://www.watercure.com, and it will be posted there when the book is available.

Sodas cause dehydration

Mike: Now here's another interesting question people have -- when they go out to eat at a restaurant, there's a tremendous amount of economic pressure from the point of view of the restaurant chain or restaurant owner to serve them something other than water. I remember there was a campaign at one time through Olive Garden restaurants. The campaign was called Just Say No to H2O, and they were rewarding waiters for making sure people bought some soft drinks rather than drinking water.

Dr. B: That's because everyone is after a fast buck, even at the expense of someone else's health. These restaurants are no different from the pharmaceutical industry when they push something that the body doesn't need. Of course, they don't know, they don't do it knowingly. One can't fault them. It's bad education, and we think that these soft drinks are synonymous with water.

Actually, a lot of children who drink soft drinks actually become "stupid", but once you take the soft drink away from them, their grades improve tremendously -- C's and F's become A's and B's. So, there is something in caffeine that suppresses the enzymes from memory-making. And this is exactly how the plant survives, because caffeine is a toxic chemical - it's a warfare chemical for the plant. Anything that would eat it will lose its art of camouflage, its alertness, good reaction, good response, and becomes easy prey to its own food chain predator.

Mike: Yes, caffeine is technically an insecticide.

Dr. B: Caffeine is technically an insecticide. So is morphine and so is cocaine. They are the same family of drugs -- neurotoxic substances.

Mike: Is there anything else in particular that our listeners should be aware of or should do to enhance their health through the information that you make available?

Dr. B: Yes, they can keep in touch. They can go to my website on a regular basis, and we post information there and letters that we exchange and so on. They can become part of the movement to bring honesty back into medicine. Because if they're young people, they've got many years to go, and unfortunately in a dishonest form of medical practice, they can become vulnerable.

Mike: That website is…

Dr. B:
http://www.watercure.com.

Mike: And the other one is
http://www.nafhim.org?

Dr. B: Yes, but they will get the option at http://www.watercure.com to go to either site. This information is free, it's the latest information in medical science, it's the future science of medicine, it's the foundation of the future science of medicine, and they have it at their use, free of charge. All they have to do is become curious as to learn. And the information is in such simple language that anyone can understand it. I don't use jargon. I use very simple English to explain complicated problems.

Mike: I thank you so much for your generosity, being willing to take this time and share your wisdom with the world.

Dr. B: Mike, it is my pleasure, and I thank you. I'm here to be heard and you make it possible for me to be heard, and I'm grateful to you.

Mike: Indeed, and likewise from this side. It's people like you that will revolutionize medicine, and that's what we need today.

Dr. B: Bernard Shaw says that normal people try to conform, and reasonable people do not conform, and look for alternatives. Therefore all progress belongs to unreasonable people.

About This Interview

You've been reading from an exclusive interview with Dr. Batmanghelidj, author of Water For Health, For Healing, For Life. Dr. B. is also the founder of the National Association for Honesty in Medicine and author of, Your Body's Many Cries For Water. Look for his new, upcoming book, "Obesity, Cancer and Depression: Their Common Cause and Actual Cure." Learn more about Dr. B. at www.WaterCure.com

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