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--- On Sun, 5/16/10, Javed Ahmad <javedahmad@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Javed Ahmad <javedahmad@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: [ALOCHONA] Stoning a woman: Only the suffering is real, any justification of it is fake and crininal
To: "Isha Khan" <bd_mailer@yahoo.com>
Cc: farida_majid@hotmail.com
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 9:01 PM

Dear Sister Farida in Islam, Salaam!

I think the grief and confusion could have been avoided if a little note was added that said somewhere something like this, 'this photograph is not real and is just an enactment'. By not doing it, many felt deceived thinking that it was real and thus reacted negatively. Frankly, I too did not like it because we really do not want to see anything like this happening in Bangladesh. Therefore, those of us who have reacted, it was actually a show of resistance.

As a journalist you have tried to make a point. It is possible that this sort of thing does happen in BD, but the information need to be as accurate as possible. Since a real photograph was not available and an artificial act was depicted in the photo, it should have been mentioned.

Journalism is a great career and I personally have a lot of respect for them provided they are truthful. But we get hurt and feel sad when we notice attempts in manipulation of a news in order to portray something that is not real. Truth stands out clear from error, we need not brush or hype it.

Thank you for sharing the images of Somalia. We need to understand that Somalia is a war torn country with a so called acting Islamic government. Only Allah knows how 'Islamic" they really are in their thinking and practices. It is very easy to get deceived with these images that may not carry the actual story behind. I have seen plenty of such cases in the past. For instance, all of you know that the Talibans deliberately destroyed the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan right before the US led invasion. But the real story was, Talibans actually tried to stop the angry crowd in that region from destroying the statues who were angry with the UN mission people who were there to repair and reconstruct the statues ignoring the hungry people there. They were angry because they saw that the UN cared more about the dead statues spending millions of dollars for the restoration of the statues and giving nothing to the people who were hungry. Thus the result was anger out of frustration. In another occasion, I came across with some horrific images of mutilation of human bodies where the caption said the the pictures were taken in East Timor where the Muslims were killing the Christians in such a way there. Whereas, the truth was quite the opposite! It was the Christians that were butchering the Muslims!

So you see, it all depends on who has the information with what motive. If the intention is bad, some wrong things could be done with the same piece of information. So, we need to be careful and alert in our information picking.

--- On Sun, 5/16/10, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: [ALOCHONA] Stoning a woman: Only the suffering is real, any justification of it is fake and crininal
To:
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 8:29 PM



--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Stoning a woman: Only the suffering is real, any justification of it is fake and crininal
To:
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 5:28 AM

 
 
  I post the following pictures for those who adamently refused to use their God-given faculty of 'imagination' and condemned the photo illustration of stoning a woman in a local newspaper (April, 02, 2010) as an example of liberal "anti-Islamism' . 

I had checked  the Star magazine and found it to be a photo illustration, a sort of art-work for the lead article: "Crime in the Name of Belief."
 
         http://www.thedaily star.net/ magazine/ 2010/02/04/ cover.htm
 
It was NOT presented as a journalistic photo. There were no captions identifying the figures in the photo, I argued, -- no name, date or place attached to it. It was merely a dramatized photographic art-work to illustrate the topic at hand. Yet there was a big noise made about fakery, how the photo session was "staged"  and therefore dishonest, disingenuous, conspiracy against Islam, etc.      
 
         I was roundly ridiculed as anti-Islamic, as if stoning women as punishment of sinful women is such an integral part of Islam that any criticism of any inhuman aspect of it must be branded automatically as anti-Islamic.  Taj Hashmi even wrote a long article, "Mullahs are Coming! Mullahs are Coming!" taunting the Islamophobes and fear-mongers.
 
          Below is an example of photo-journalism that depicts an actual event of stoning a young woman to death in Somalia, a country plunged in the depth of lawlessness in the name of Sharia, and no one in the world community seems to care. These pictures are stark, in plain view, and require no imagination nor any feeling for a fellow human being.
Supporters of a brutal genocide -- Genocide 1971 of Bangladesh -- bear the hearts and minds of these stone-throwers of Somalia.
 
             Farida Majid
 

[Attachment(s) from FARDEEN included below]
Punishment for Zina in Somalia (not for minors' viewing)

Zina - Sex With Girls Who Are Not Your Wife.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 



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Re: [ALOCHONA] Why Dubai's Islamic austerity is a sham

Nice article. I am not sure if the writer wants no Zina in "Islamic"
Dubai or wants permission for "Public affection".
I agree Islam does not support zina and selling body for money does not
make sense.
Forcing women to take off "Modest" hijabs in European cities does not
make sense in democratic countries.
Guess when you are in Rome ......


-----Original Message-----
From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, 16 May 2010 17:34:29 +0600
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Why Dubai's Islamic austerity is a sham

 
Why Dubai's Islamic austerity is a sham – sex is for sale in every bar
 
Couples who publicly kiss are jailed, yet the state turns a blind eye
to 30,000 imported prostitutes, says William Butler
 

The bosomy blonde in a tight, low-cut evening dress slid on to a
barstool next to me and began the chat: Where are you from? How long
are you here? Where are you staying? I asked her what she did for a
living. "You know what I do," she replied. "I'm a whore."
As I looked around the designer bar on the second floor of the glitzy
five-star hotel, it was obvious that every woman in the place was a
prostitute. And the men were all potential punters, or at least
window-shoppers.
While we talked, Jenny, from Minsk in Belarus, offered me "everything,
what you like, all night" for the equivalent of about £500. It was
better if I was staying in the luxurious hotel where we were drinking,
she said, but if not she knew another one, cheaper but "friendly". I
turned down the offer.
This was not Amsterdam's red-light district or the Reeperbahn in
Hamburg or a bar on Shanghai's Bund. This was in the city centre of
Dubai, the Gulf emirate where western women get a month in prison for a
peck on the cheek; the Islamic city on Muhammad's peninsula where the
muezzin's call rings out five times a day drawing believers to prayer;
where public consumption of alcohol prompts immediate arrest; where
adultery is an imprisonable offence; and where mall shoppers are
advised against "overt displays of affection", such as kissing.
Ayman Najafi and Charlotte Adams, the couple recently banged up in Al
Awir desert prison for a brief public snog, must have been very unlucky
indeed, because in reality Dubai is a heaving maelstrom of sexual
activity that would make the hair stand up on even the most worldly
westerner's head. It is known by some residents as "Sodom-sur-Mer".
Beach life, cafe society, glamorous lifestyles, fast cars and deep tans
are all things associated with "romance" in the fog-chilled minds of
Europeans and North Americans. And there is a fair amount of legitimate
"romance" in Dubai. Western girls fall for handsome, flash Lebanese
men; male visitors go for the dusky charms of women from virtually
anywhere. Office and beach affairs are common.
But most of the "romance" in Dubai is paid-for sex, accepted by
expatriates as the norm, and to which a blind eye is turned – at the
very least – by the authorities. The bar where "Jenny" approached me
was top-of-the-range, where expensively dressed and coiffured girls can
demand top dollar from wealthy businessmen or tourists.
There are lots of these establishments. Virtually every five-star hotel
has a bar where "working girls" are tolerated, even encouraged, to help
pull in the punters with cash to blow. But it goes downhill from there.
At sports and music bars, Fillipinas vie with the Russians and women
from the former Soviet republics for custom at lower prices. In the
older parts of the city, Deira and Bur Dubai, Chinese women undercut
them all in the lobbies of three-star hotels or even on the streets
(although outside soliciting is still rare).
It is impossible to estimate accurately the prostitute population of
Dubai. The authorities would never give out such figures, and it would
be hard to take into account the "casual" or "part-time" sex trade. One
recent estimate put the figure at about 30,000 out of a population of
about 1.5 million. A similar ratio in Britain would mean a city the
size of Glasgow and Leeds combined entirely populated by prostitutes.

Of course, there are other cities in the world where the "oldest
profession" is flourishing. But what makes Dubai prostitution different
is the level of acceptance it has by the clients and, apparently, the
city's Islamic authorities. Although strictly illegal under United Arab
Emirates' and Islamic law, it is virtually a national pastime.
I have seen a six-inch-high stack of application forms in the offices
of a visa agent, each piece of paper representing a hopeful "tourist"
from Russia, Armenia or Uzbekistan. The passport-sized photographs are
all of women in their 20s seeking one-month visas for a holiday in the
emirate.
Maybe young Aida from Tashkent – oval-eyed and pouting – will find a
few days' paid work as a maid or shop assistant while she's in Dubai,
and maybe she will even get an afternoon or two on the beach as her
holiday. But most nights she will be selling herself in the bars and
hotels and the immigration authorities know that. So must the visa
agent, who gets his cut out of each £300 visa fee.
The higher you go up the Emirati food chain, the bigger the awards. All
UAE nationals are entitled to a number of residence visas, which they
routinely use to hire imported domestics, drivers or gardeners. But
they will sell the surplus to middlemen who trade them on to women who
want to go full-time and permanent in the city. The higher the social
and financial status of the Emirati, the more visas he has to "farm".
Thousands of women buy entitlement to full-time residence, and
lucrative employment, in this way. Three years in Dubai – the normal
duration of a residence visa – can be the difference between lifelong
destitution and survival in Yerevan, Omsk or Bishkek.
With a residence visa changing hands at upwards of £5,000 a time, it is
a nice sideline, even for a wealthy national. And it also ensures a
convenient supply of sex for Emiratis, who form a large proportion of
the punters at the kind of bar where I met "Jenny". Arabs from other
countries are high up the "johns" list, with Saudis in particular
looking for distraction from life in their austere Wahabist homes with
booze and sex-fuelled weekends in Dubai's hotels.
The other big category of punters is Europeans and Americans, and it is
remarkable how quickly it all seems normal. A few drinks with the lads
on a Thursday night, maybe a curry, some semi-intoxicated ribaldry, and
then off to a bar where you know "that" kind of girl will be waiting.
In the west, peer group morality might frown on such leisure
activities, but in Dubai it's as normal as watching the late-night
movie.
Male residents whose families are also in Dubai might be a little
constrained most of the year – you could not really introduce Ludmilla
from Lvov, all cleavage and stilettos, as a work colleague with whom
you wanted to "run over a few things on the laptop". But in the long,
hot summer it is different. Wives and families escape the heat by going
to Europe or the US, and the change that comes over the male expat
population is astounding. Middle-aged men in responsible jobs –
accountants, marketeers, bankers – who for 10 months of the year are
devoted husbands, transform in July and August into priapic stallions
roaming the bars of Sheikh Zayed Road.
Tales are swapped over a few beers the next night, positions described,
prices compared, nationalities ranked according to performance. It
could be the Champions League we are discussing, not paid-for sex.
I've heard financial types justifying it as part of the process of
globalisation, another manifestation of the west-east "tilt" by which
world economic power is gravitating eastwards.
In my experience, many men will be unfaithful if they have the
opportunity and a reasonable expectation that they will not be found
out. For expats in Dubai, the summer months provide virtual laboratory
conditions for infidelity.
Above all, there is opportunity. There is the Indonesian maid who makes
it apparent that she has no objection to extending her duties, for a
price; the central Asian shop assistant in one of the glittering malls
who writes her mobile number on the back of your credit card receipt
"in case you need anything else"; the Filipina manicurist at the
hairdresser's who suggests you might also want a pedicure in the
private room.
Even though selling sex is haram (forbidden) under Islamic law, the
authorities rarely do anything about it. Occasionally, an establishment
will break some unwritten rule. Cyclone, a notorious whorehouse near
the airport, was closed down a few years back, but then it really did
go too far – a special area of the vast sex supermarket was dedicated
to in-house oral sex. When the authorities ordered it to be closed, the
girls simply moved elsewhere.
There are occasional stories in the local papers of human trafficking
rings being broken up and the exploiters arrested, but it is low-level
stuff, usually involving Asian or Chinese gangs and Indian or Nepalese
girls. The real problem is the high-end business, with official
sanction. Even with the emirate's financial problems, Sodom-sur-Mer is
flourishing. But would-be snoggers beware – your decadent behaviour
will not be tolerated.

William Butler is a pseudonym for a writer who lived in Dubai for four
years and recently returned to Britain
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/16/dubai-sex-tourism-prostitution

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Re: [ALOCHONA] Stoning a woman: Only the suffering is real, any justification of it is fake and crininal

Farida apa,
We have no way of know if "Due process" was followed with this
unfortunate lady.
Watching any death is difficult for average people. Be it for commit
sex out of marriage or killing an innocent human being. Maybe you live
in a liberal city and you do not look at it as a big deal. That is your
God given choice. Most religious scriptures differs with you.
Practicing Muslims may agree with you if the women was not given
opportunity to defend herself. I also think the way that "Punishment"
was given ( No privacy) was improper. But if someone has a diffent
point of view about marriage as an important institution, I think we
should respect that point of view. In Islam marriage is a special
contract. Millions of people take that contract sincerely. That does
not make them part of anti-liberation force. Our glorious march to
freedom is history. It is not proper to insert into every discussion.

Shalom.


-----Original Message-----
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:28:43 -0400
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Stoning a woman: Only the suffering is real, any
justification of it is fake and crininal

 
 
  I post the following pictures for those who adamently refused to use
their God-given faculty of 'imagination' and condemned the photo
illustration of stoning a woman in a local newspaper (April, 02, 2010)
as an example of liberal "anti-Islamism'. 

I had checked  the Star magazine and found it to be a photo
illustration, a sort of art-work for the lead article: "Crime in the
Name of Belief."
 
         http://www.thedailystar.net/magazine/2010/02/04/cover.htm
 
It was NOT presented as a journalistic photo. There were no captions
identifying the figures in the photo, I argued, -- no name, date or
place attached to it. It was merely a dramatized photographic art-work
to illustrate the topic at hand. Yet there was a big noise made about
fakery, how the photo session was "staged"  and therefore dishonest,
disingenuous, conspiracy against Islam, etc.      
 
         I was roundly ridiculed as anti-Islamic, as if stoning women
as punishment of sinful women is such an integral part of Islam that
any criticism of any inhuman aspect of it must be branded automatically
as anti-Islamic.  Taj Hashmi even wrote a long article, "Mullahs are
Coming! Mullahs are Coming!" taunting the Islamophobes and fear-mongers.
 
          Below is an example of photo-journalism that depicts an
actual event of stoning a young woman to death in Somalia, a country
plunged in the depth of lawlessness in the name of Sharia, and no one
in the world community seems to care. These pictures are stark, in
plain view, and require no imagination nor any feeling for a fellow
human being.
Supporters of a brutal genocide -- Genocide 1971 of Bangladesh -- bear
the hearts and minds of these stone-throwers of Somalia.
 
             Farida Majid
 

[Attachment(s) from FARDEEN included below]
Punishment for Zina in Somalia (not for minors' viewing)


Zina - Sex With Girls&nbsp;Who Are Not Your Wife.
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

 


 


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Fwd: Re: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity

-----Original Message-----
From: qrahman@netscape.net
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 12 May 2010 09:09:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n
humanity

Dear Alochok,
 
Maybe we should demad some data to support those claims against
Rebindranth. However I am not a supporter of censoring. Freedom of
thought, freedom to protest and preach is what makes this interesting.
Like you I have been member of this forum since 98. I enjoy most
postings even when I do not agree with them [ As long they have valid
points to support those opinions].
 
This is one of the few places we can share our feelings without fearing
gangs or police. Let us cherish this freedom and show respect for all
opinions.
 
Peace.

-----Original Message-----
From: haque@berlin.com
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n
humanity

  Dear Moderators of Alochona Group,

Is it necessary to publish this kind of rubbish write-up here in
Alochona group? I was a founder member of Alochona group since 1998.
Alochona is a Bangladesh centric forum encompassing topics related to
Bengali culture and Bangladeshi people. We have got over 16 thousands
different postings from different writers during last 12 years. We have
got knowledge in relation to Bengali culture, politics, philosophy and
socioeconomic topics; many of the intellectual personalities of Bengali
society have drawn us to the Enlightenment. But I can not take part in
this kind of stupid opinion that "Rabindranath Tagore is an enemy of
Bangladesh People".

Tagore's reputation as a philosopher and writer was established in
undivided India and in Abroad after the publication of Gitanjali. His
Song Offerings, in which Tagore tried to find inner calm and explored
the themes of divine and human love. His cosmic visions owed much to
the lyric tradition of human religion and its concepts about the
relationship between man and God.

Gitanjali published in 1912 with an introduction by William Butler
Yates, who wrote "These lyrics - which are in the original, my Indians
tell me, full of subtlety of rhythm, of untranslatable delicacies of
colour, of metrical invention - display in their thought a world I have
dreamed of all my life long." His poems were praised by Ezra Pound,
and drew the attention of the Nobel Prize committee.

Tagore is the composer of our National Anthem "Amar Sonar Bangla" and
if someone called him as an "enemy of Bangladesh People" than he is
definitely undermining our national and state sovereignty and playing
with the sentiments of all Bangladeshi people.

So I request you to read the post before approving it for 4000 readers
of this forum.
With best thanking.

-Monaz Haque, Moderator, Yahoo Tagore Forum

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Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 4:44 am
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity

Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity
 
Dear All,
Do you know that Poet" Bshakobi " rabindranath
 
1 )compelled his Muslim subjects Giving Chanda For Puja
2) compelled his Muslim subjects  giving Tax for Bared ( Lari rakharv
jonno kor Adai korto)
3)He never established a single school in  his jomidari in Bangladesh(
silaidoh , shajatpur or potisosr)
4)He opposed and protested the establishment of Dhaka University
5)oppression on subjects by Rabindranath is a  well established Truth.
He was getting Khetabs , as supported the British colonial regime when
nazrul was jailed for  his role against the British regime.
 But sometimes some so called manobotabadi ask for establish the ideal
of This rabindranath.
 
 What kind of "Manobotabadi was Rabindranath n his supporters?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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[ALOCHONA] Fwd: [dhakamails] RE :Irene Khan on Hijab



------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Badrul Islam <badrul_islam2001@yahoo.com>

Dear Mr.Javed,

You have already given two points which serves as reason why Muslims still find it difficult to think about returning to their own Country. That is copied herein:-
"I fully understand that it is not an easy decision for Muslim permanently living in the West. But hey! What choice do we have left?

Another irony will be awaiting the Muslims when they return to their respective homes. They will find that even their own homes are not suitable for Islamic practices! The secular governments are all anti-Islamic just like their masters in the the West."

However the practical solution lies in two things:--

1.To find through Bible reference and social reference, what allows the Christian Nuns to remain covered full body plus their head gear. The same for the Christian Priests, named as Brother and Father,according to seniority.
2.Secondly to check our own references from the Holy Quran and Hadis with proper reference and to contact Eligible Muslim Jurispridence about thew correct stance on how much a muslim Lady actually needs to cover- body and head.
3.If you have contacts for Brother Dr.Zakir Naik then please do get him to give us advise which we can circulate for our Muslim Ummah.

If a group from amongst us work together to check on references than with that solid information we can atleast advise the Western Governments to consider their decisions in accordance with the suggestions that will not cause alarm for them as well as suit our Muslim Ladies.

In most Asian countries Muslim Ladies are well covered, though head gear, like Hijab is worn by few ladies and with variations,small size to large size.
Hopefully many members including the ladies will check correctly references and discuss with us this vital issue and voice their opinion so that at a final stage we can come to a conclusion with which we can approach the respective Government Authorities.

Awaiting yours as well as other Members advise.
Best wishes.

Badrul Islam


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From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Subject: [dhakamails] RE :Irene Khan on Hijab
To: dhakamails@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 7:41 AM

 

Javed Ahmad
javedahmad@yahoo. com


It is interesting to note that Irene Khan who herself does not wear a hijab is advocating for it. Chances are she too would become a victim of public bashing should she decides to wear hijab - by choice.

I do not understand why the Muslim folks living in the Western world do not get it. All the symptoms that are showing around them is telling them 'get out of Europe', but they are not paying any attention to it. Ultimately they would have two choices, take it or leave it. Meaning, 'live as a Roman while you are in Rome' or 'get the hell out'.

It will be tough to live in the West holding Islamic values and practices. Our beloved Prophet (SM) warned us of the coming of such a day by saying, "A time would come when holding on to Islam would be like holding on to a burning coal." Looks like that test is already here.

Frankly, I think Muslims should begin to leave the West. Because Muslims are like a shield. Allah hates to punish a nation as long as a single Muslim is remaining there. Without any Muslims around, it would be easy for Him to prepare for a retribution.

I fully understand that it is not an easy decision for Muslim permanently living in the West. But hey! What choice do we have left?

Another irony will be awaiting the Muslims when they return to their respective homes. They will find that even their own homes are not suitable for Islamic practices! The secular governments are all anti-Islamic just like their masters in the the West.

This is the consequences that the Muslims of the world would have to face and pay for, for not propagating Islam during the time of peace when they had the best opportunity. They would have to pay for their ignorance and carelessness.

But not to worry. At the end, Islam would become victorious and peace would return to the world. But not without pain and suffering.

--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail. com> wrote:

 



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[ALOCHONA] Why Dubai's Islamic austerity is a sham



Why Dubai's Islamic austerity is a sham – sex is for sale in every bar
 
Couples who publicly kiss are jailed, yet the state turns a blind eye to 30,000 imported prostitutes, says William Butler
 

The bosomy blonde in a tight, low-cut evening dress slid on to a barstool next to me and began the chat: Where are you from? How long are you here? Where are you staying? I asked her what she did for a living. "You know what I do," she replied. "I'm a whore."

As I looked around the designer bar on the second floor of the glitzy five-star hotel, it was obvious that every woman in the place was a prostitute. And the men were all potential punters, or at least window-shoppers.

While we talked, Jenny, from Minsk in Belarus, offered me "everything, what you like, all night" for the equivalent of about £500. It was better if I was staying in the luxurious hotel where we were drinking, she said, but if not she knew another one, cheaper but "friendly". I turned down the offer.

This was not Amsterdam's red-light district or the Reeperbahn in Hamburg or a bar on Shanghai's Bund. This was in the city centre of Dubai, the Gulf emirate where western women get a month in prison for a peck on the cheek; the Islamic city on Muhammad's peninsula where the muezzin's call rings out five times a day drawing believers to prayer; where public consumption of alcohol prompts immediate arrest; where adultery is an imprisonable offence; and where mall shoppers are advised against "overt displays of affection", such as kissing.

Ayman Najafi and Charlotte Adams, the couple recently banged up in Al Awir desert prison for a brief public snog, must have been very unlucky indeed, because in reality Dubai is a heaving maelstrom of sexual activity that would make the hair stand up on even the most worldly westerner's head. It is known by some residents as "Sodom-sur-Mer".

Beach life, cafe society, glamorous lifestyles, fast cars and deep tans are all things associated with "romance" in the fog-chilled minds of Europeans and North Americans. And there is a fair amount of legitimate "romance" in Dubai. Western girls fall for handsome, flash Lebanese men; male visitors go for the dusky charms of women from virtually anywhere. Office and beach affairs are common.

But most of the "romance" in Dubai is paid-for sex, accepted by expatriates as the norm, and to which a blind eye is turned – at the very least – by the authorities. The bar where "Jenny" approached me was top-of-the-range, where expensively dressed and coiffured girls can demand top dollar from wealthy businessmen or tourists.

There are lots of these establishments. Virtually every five-star hotel has a bar where "working girls" are tolerated, even encouraged, to help pull in the punters with cash to blow. But it goes downhill from there. At sports and music bars, Fillipinas vie with the Russians and women from the former Soviet republics for custom at lower prices. In the older parts of the city, Deira and Bur Dubai, Chinese women undercut them all in the lobbies of three-star hotels or even on the streets (although outside soliciting is still rare).

It is impossible to estimate accurately the prostitute population of Dubai. The authorities would never give out such figures, and it would be hard to take into account the "casual" or "part-time" sex trade. One recent estimate put the figure at about 30,000 out of a population of about 1.5 million. A similar ratio in Britain would mean a city the size of Glasgow and Leeds combined entirely populated by prostitutes.

Of course, there are other cities in the world where the "oldest profession" is flourishing. But what makes Dubai prostitution different is the level of acceptance it has by the clients and, apparently, the city's Islamic authorities. Although strictly illegal under United Arab Emirates' and Islamic law, it is virtually a national pastime.

I have seen a six-inch-high stack of application forms in the offices of a visa agent, each piece of paper representing a hopeful "tourist" from Russia, Armenia or Uzbekistan. The passport-sized photographs are all of women in their 20s seeking one-month visas for a holiday in the emirate.

Maybe young Aida from Tashkent – oval-eyed and pouting – will find a few days' paid work as a maid or shop assistant while she's in Dubai, and maybe she will even get an afternoon or two on the beach as her holiday. But most nights she will be selling herself in the bars and hotels and the immigration authorities know that. So must the visa agent, who gets his cut out of each £300 visa fee.

The higher you go up the Emirati food chain, the bigger the awards. All UAE nationals are entitled to a number of residence visas, which they routinely use to hire imported domestics, drivers or gardeners. But they will sell the surplus to middlemen who trade them on to women who want to go full-time and permanent in the city. The higher the social and financial status of the Emirati, the more visas he has to "farm".

Thousands of women buy entitlement to full-time residence, and lucrative employment, in this way. Three years in Dubai – the normal duration of a residence visa – can be the difference between lifelong destitution and survival in Yerevan, Omsk or Bishkek.

With a residence visa changing hands at upwards of £5,000 a time, it is a nice sideline, even for a wealthy national. And it also ensures a convenient supply of sex for Emiratis, who form a large proportion of the punters at the kind of bar where I met "Jenny". Arabs from other countries are high up the "johns" list, with Saudis in particular looking for distraction from life in their austere Wahabist homes with booze and sex-fuelled weekends in Dubai's hotels.

The other big category of punters is Europeans and Americans, and it is remarkable how quickly it all seems normal. A few drinks with the lads on a Thursday night, maybe a curry, some semi-intoxicated ribaldry, and then off to a bar where you know "that" kind of girl will be waiting. In the west, peer group morality might frown on such leisure activities, but in Dubai it's as normal as watching the late-night movie.

Male residents whose families are also in Dubai might be a little constrained most of the year – you could not really introduce Ludmilla from Lvov, all cleavage and stilettos, as a work colleague with whom you wanted to "run over a few things on the laptop". But in the long, hot summer it is different. Wives and families escape the heat by going to Europe or the US, and the change that comes over the male expat population is astounding. Middle-aged men in responsible jobs – accountants, marketeers, bankers – who for 10 months of the year are devoted husbands, transform in July and August into priapic stallions roaming the bars of Sheikh Zayed Road.

Tales are swapped over a few beers the next night, positions described, prices compared, nationalities ranked according to performance. It could be the Champions League we are discussing, not paid-for sex.

I've heard financial types justifying it as part of the process of globalisation, another manifestation of the west-east "tilt" by which world economic power is gravitating eastwards.

In my experience, many men will be unfaithful if they have the opportunity and a reasonable expectation that they will not be found out. For expats in Dubai, the summer months provide virtual laboratory conditions for infidelity.

Above all, there is opportunity. There is the Indonesian maid who makes it apparent that she has no objection to extending her duties, for a price; the central Asian shop assistant in one of the glittering malls who writes her mobile number on the back of your credit card receipt "in case you need anything else"; the Filipina manicurist at the hairdresser's who suggests you might also want a pedicure in the private room.

Even though selling sex is haram (forbidden) under Islamic law, the authorities rarely do anything about it. Occasionally, an establishment will break some unwritten rule. Cyclone, a notorious whorehouse near the airport, was closed down a few years back, but then it really did go too far – a special area of the vast sex supermarket was dedicated to in-house oral sex. When the authorities ordered it to be closed, the girls simply moved elsewhere.

There are occasional stories in the local papers of human trafficking rings being broken up and the exploiters arrested, but it is low-level stuff, usually involving Asian or Chinese gangs and Indian or Nepalese girls. The real problem is the high-end business, with official sanction. Even with the emirate's financial problems, Sodom-sur-Mer is flourishing. But would-be snoggers beware – your decadent behaviour will not be tolerated.

William Butler is a pseudonym for a writer who lived in Dubai for four years and recently returned to Britain

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/16/dubai-sex-tourism-prostitution



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[ALOCHONA] Re: Ruling by Islam in the UK



Javed Ahmad
 
I came in contact with some members of Hizb-ut-Tahrir (meaning "Party of Liberation") while I was living in NYC about a decade ago. Before that I was not even aware of this movement. After my return to BD I came to know that they have a presence here as well.

Since its inception in 1953 in Jerusalem this movement did not have much impact around the globe, not even in Palestine. None of the secular Muslim majority governments paid any attention to it.

Somehow, they found a place in Western world with a strong base in UK. There have been rumors that the organization is basically funded by some Jewish groups, etc.

Despite their vain effort, they have always been peaceful in their movement. Never resorted to any violence. Only recently some violent activities have been observed among the members of the org in BD that resulted in crack down by the government. But it is what the media has told us.

From the global scenario it seems like the masters have chosen to close down this entity as it is probably not serving their need or have no need for it anymore and the primary objective is already met, which is starting a war against Islam.

I wanted to find out more info on the status of their present situation by visiting the following sites -

http://www.hizb.org.uk/

http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/

http://www.khilafat.org/

But none of them active anymore, except for this one at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir . And I am not at all surprised.
 


On 5/13/10, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

Ruling by Islam in the UK

If David Cameron succeeds in becoming the next Prime Minister and keeps his pre-election promise, the group Hizb-ut-Tahrir (HT) faces the prospect of a ban. The group is characterised by its noble quest to re-establish the Caliphate in the Muslim world, which will be the starting point to unify the Muslim nations and remove the oppressive regimes, establish peace and justice. The leadership of HT reassured the previous regime that it has no intention of calling for the Caliphate in the UK, and resorted to considerable amount of lobbying to prevent the ban, and it seems they succeeded in persuading the MPs to renew the current legislation that permits the group the operate.

However, the statement of HT is misleading on the subject of the Caliphate for UK. Far as I remember, the Islamic opinion adopted by HT is that - the Islamic State will have no permanent fixed borders, until the entire world is brought under the domain of Islam. Thus, it may not call for the Caliphate today in the UK, but bringing UK under the domain of the Caliphate is not to be excluded in the future. Either pragmatism or fear caused the group's leadership not to clarify their position on the issue.

If bullets and bombs are used to spread democracy, then surely they can use the same tools for spreading the domain of Islam. But, remember, the fundamental objective of the Caliphate is not material conquest or oil-piracy - it is the spread of Islam. Thus, minimising civilian casualty is an inherent feature of the Caliphate, not a convenient political slogan to exercise after inflicting massive collateral damage, because annihilation would defeat the objective of spreading Islam. If you want to minimise civilian casualty, then Jihad is the best option!

I am perplexed by the controversy over the Caliphate. It existed for over a thousand years; people of different races, culture and religion lived together and prospered. One can still see the main tourist attraction in Spain is the Alhambra, which is the product of the Caliphate. The non-Muslims never faced the Islamic Inquisition or any form of Pogroms, unless the ruler had deviated significantly from the basic principles of Islam. I cannot think of one example of persecution or atrocities committed against non-Muslims under the Caliphate.

Therefore, it seems the controversy is a by-product of the war propaganda, as the UK government continues to pursue the American-led war on terror by terrorising the civilians in the Muslim world. Maybe, it also reflects the deep insecurity of leading democracies, as they fear the possible challenge posed by a future Caliphate. Why not debate groups like Hizb-ut-Tahrir on the ideological alternatives rather than impose a ban? Why are the democracies so afraid to have an open discussion on this issue? Such a reaction tells me that they are a bunch of intolerant freedom-fundamentalists, operating behind their media Niqab!

If we live in a democratic free society, then everyone has the right to express an opinion on how we should govern ourselves, unless it is a dictatorship of democracy! The Communists and the Socialists are calling for a specific type government, as Muslims we should have every right to call for the Caliphate in the UK. The entire universe is the creation of God and the whole world should be subjected to the divine laws, rather than exploitative capitalism. The fundamental divine laws are fixed; it is not possible for anyone to manipulate it without violating the laws. For example, one could not incarcerate any non-Muslim simply by inventing a term like illegal-combatants. The majority Muslim population could not even debate if the rights of non-Muslims can be retracted. Everyone knows the score under the Caliphate, and no slimy politician can wag their lizard tongue to tell you otherwise.

Perhaps, one day the UK may become a Muslim majority nation, as the Muslim population continues to grow at a rapid rate in relation to non-Muslim community who are experiencing a slow growth in population, largely caused by a breakdown of family values with their zeal for freedom, and promoting things like homosexuality; also the number of converts to Islam continue to flow despite the adverse media propaganda. Then the introduction of Sharia laws would be natural, and in compliance with the principles of majority rule, that is assuming the Muslims continue to aspire to this. Of course, nobody knows the future, a meteor might strike or a devastating earthquake and a Tsunami might change the entire picture, or the Muslims may assimilate and lose their zeal.

At present, the Muslims in the UK are content to live as peaceful democratic citizens, and are busy preserving their identity and interests, as they face a rising tide of Islamophobia. The Niqab has been banned in Belgium, so has the Minaret in Switzerland; no purpose-built Mosques are allowed in some European countries and media is constantly spitting on the Muslims; the new Jews of Europe they say. Naturally, the pressure to assimilate is increasing. Adopting an isolationist approach of the past is no longer an option, nor is the community in a position to call for the Caliphate in the UK. The only option left is to engage with the majority non-Muslim population that can only benefit the cause of Islam and Muslims.

Those who have employed the antagonistic approach in the past should reflect on their record of success, which is very little. Bulk of the converts to Islam has come through the interaction of the ordinary Muslims, as has bulk of the institutions like the numerous Mosques, Charity organisations, and community centres. Taking a simplistic view that antagonising the non-Muslims is a sign of success, only demonstrate a superficial understanding of the example of the Prophet and his companions. In general, the early Muslims did not adopt a confrontational approach, in Medina there were rarely any examples of confrontation; in Mecca, the antagonising was largely initiated by the non-Muslims for various reason.

As the Quran says, "Indeed Allah is with those who are patient"

Yamin Zakaria (yamin@radicalviews.org)
London, UK

http://yaminzakaria.blogspot.com/2010/05/ruling-by-islam-in-uk.html



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[ALOCHONA] Re: Irene Khan on Hijab



Javed Ahmad
javedahmad@yahoo.com


It is interesting to note that Irene Khan who herself does not wear a hijab is advocating for it. Chances are she too would become a victim of public bashing should she decides to wear hijab - by choice.

I do not understand why the Muslim folks living in the Western world do not get it. All the symptoms that are showing around them is telling them 'get out of Europe', but they are not paying any attention to it. Ultimately they would have two choices, take it or leave it. Meaning, 'live as a Roman while you are in Rome' or 'get the hell out'.

It will be tough to live in the West holding Islamic values and practices. Our beloved Prophet (SM) warned us of the coming of such a day by saying, "A time would come when holding on to Islam would be like holding on to a burning coal." Looks like that test is already here.

Frankly, I think Muslims should begin to leave the West. Because Muslims are like a shield. Allah hates to punish a nation as long as a single Muslim is remaining there. Without any Muslims around, it would be easy for Him to prepare for a retribution.

I fully understand that it is not an easy decision for Muslim permanently living in the West. But hey! What choice do we have left?

Another irony will be awaiting the Muslims when they return to their respective homes. They will find that even their own homes are not suitable for Islamic practices! The secular governments are all anti-Islamic just like their masters in the the West.

This is the consequences that the Muslims of the world would have to face and pay for, for not propagating Islam during the time of peace when they had the best opportunity. They would have to pay for their ignorance and carelessness.

But not to worry. At the end, Islam would become victorious and peace would return to the world. But not without pain and suffering.

--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

 
Irene Khan on Hijab
 
 


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RE: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity



Dear Friends,

 

Dr. Ahmed Sharif was a Nastik. He was never a supporter of Razakar. I am not against Rabindranath's poems, short story, songs etc and hate Auyub Khan, Yahiya, Bhutto. Those writings give me a lot of pleasures but true are that Rabindranath was not the poet of the common peoples both Hindu & Muslims like Nazrul.

 

Politically he was very much biased. May be that was his limitation. He was guided by Bed, Uponishod. He didn't know Islam and Muslim well.


Bongbanga was supported by then east Bengal farmers (most of them was Muslims) and opposed by Kolkatta Jomidar (Rabindranath was also a Jomidar) and Rabindranath had supported them and had written "Amar Shonar Bangla" in favor of those oppressor Jomidar.


He proposed Hindi as the national Language of India instead of Bangla but Dr. Shhidullah had opposed as the roots of Hindi was Samakrti dominated by Hinduism. If Hindi was the national language who will reads all his writings? No body.

 

We should know the true history first then decide what we should accept or not.

 

Mosharraf Khokon



--- On Sat, 5/15/10, J.A. Chowdhury <Chwdhury@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: J.A. Chowdhury <Chwdhury@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath:enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:40 AM

 

 
 
After established of DU, Rabindronath Tagore came in DU Campus in 1922. He wrote his song "Jokon Porbe na Mor Payer Chinno....." Hemonto Mukopadday came in Dhaka just week before of his death in 1989. In Jogonnath Hall Mall, Hemonto said...Robindronath wrote this song here and now I am singing it here.(with Boudi).
 
We know Robindronath always MEANS Greater Bangladesh, not east Bengal or west Bengal. His Bengal was Noakhali to Shiliguri, Barishal to Medinipur, He never think separately east Bengal. We feel proud he was our Poet, poet of Bengal.
We should not say he is a great poet of Subcontinent. We should say Kobi Guru is our Poet. Indian Pakistani or other country's people can say- Robindronath is a poet of subcontinent.
 
Robindronath is a world poet "Bisso-kobi" minimum 5 countries national Anthon written by Rabindronath, India Nepal Srilanka Maldip and Bangladesh. If anybody say Rabindranath was an enemy of Bangladesh people and humanity.... we know, they are nobody except- Paki minded Rajakar who want "Pak sar jamin shad bad" instead of Amar Sonar Bangla.
 
J.A.Chowdhury

 

 

To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: aminul_islam_ raj@yahoo. com
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 21:28:59 -0700
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath: enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity



Mr Muhosin Ali,
I have showed how rabindranath is a enemy of Humanity n people of Bangladesh.I presented some facts. These are not created by me.First I came to know about this by Dr Ahmed Sharif  . In one of his article published  in Uttoradhikar , a literary quarterly of Bang la Academy. It is noted that Mr Sharif was one of those who came forward in support of Rabindranath when there was a strong propaganda against Rabindra nath.Dr sarif Showed How Rabindranath oppressed his subjects. 
 If any body snached ones religious right or copelled one to follow other religion then he is enemy of humanity.If someone stand against establishing university in bangladesh he is enemy of Bangladesh.
aminul
              

--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dr. M. Mohsin Ali <drmohsinali@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath: enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 6:26 AM

 
IT IS A NONSENSE PROPAGANDA LIKE THE AYUB-MONAYEM REGIME OF PAKISTAN DURING 1960'S AGAINST THE BENGALI CULTURE. THEY WERE ALREADY THROWN OUT OF THE HISTORY OF PAKISTAN AND BANGLADESH THE BRAVE PEOPLE OF BANGLADESH.
I AM WONDERING HOW ALOCHONA GROUP IS ENCOURAGING SUCH PAKISTANI OLD PROPAGANDA AND TRYING TO DEFAME KOBI GURU.

--- On Sat, 5/8/10, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_ raj@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_ raj@yahoo. com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Rabindranath: enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity
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Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 10:44 PM

 
Rabindranath: enemy of Bangladesh People n humanity
 
Dear All,
Do you know that Poet" Bshakobi " rabindranath
 
1 )compelled his Muslim subjects Giving Chanda For Puja
2) compelled his Muslim subjects  giving Tax for Bared ( Lari rakharv jonno kor Adai korto)
3)He never established a single school in  his jomidari in Bangladesh( silaidoh , shajatpur or potisosr)
4)He opposed and protested the establishment of Dhaka University
5)oppression on subjects by Rabindranath is a  well established Truth.
He was getting Khetabs , as supported the British colonial regime when nazrul was jailed for  his role against the British regime.
 But sometimes some so called manobotabadi ask for establish the ideal of This rabindranath.
 
 What kind of "Manobotabadi was Rabindranath n his supporters?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 







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