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Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM



Anybody with loyalty to religion of any variety has arrested mental growth.  Those attracted by the lure of heavenly houries are completely devoid of any gray matter in the upper chamber.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

From the link in the beginning of this thread, I do see quite a few 'successful' and 'famous' people converting to Islam. However, many of them cannot be called 'educated'. I do not think educated people would convert to any religion; may be make a slight exception for Buddhism.
 
Notice that quite a few of the 'successful' and 'famous' people in the link had Islam and slavery in their ancestral background. I have no doubt that some of them found Islam in their root, and decided to convert back to that religion from Christianity, which they inherited from their slave ancestors. Of course, Christianity was imposed on their ancestors via the despicable practice of slavery. Their reverting to Islam had less to do with that religion than to shunning of slavery.
 
SuBain
 
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From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:15 AM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
"Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam."

Misunderstanding of what? You think Europeans are bunch of idiots, who do not understand what Islam means? 'Great idea but you, idiots, you do not get it?' It sounds like a pygmy patronizing a great numbers of well educated and far superior civilized people of Europe. Please do not make yourself a fool. Go and live in any European city and find out what they talk about Islam. Most of them are very secular atheist minded and they do not entertain the idea that Islam is their solution. They are rather scared of Islamic migrant invasion and the changing demography? I see hardly any misunderstanding of these facts. Thank you.
-SD 
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
It is not the most important point in a discussion about religion but it has some importance. The fact that, a great number of Europeans reverting to Islam is noteworthy. Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam.

It is nice to see educated and successful men and women are accepting this faith on their own.

Because of the history Muslims had with mainly Christian Europe, it is worth making a note.

Personally I am more pleased that, many of these highly successful new Muslims are taking a lead on removing misunderstanding about Islam.

Having said that, I agree no one should gloat about it. Most of the people who "Gloat" are the once who does next to nothing to promote Islam. They just want to brag about Islam, their nation, political party, family.......and God knows what else.

It is important to understand, converting is a PERSONAL issue. Islam stands against forcing people to convert (Source: Al Qur'an 2:256).


Shalom!



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From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
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Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 6:43 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
So what? What is there to beat your chest about? The right question would be how many of these new converts (mostly blacks) would ever bring  you a Nobel prize? Does Islam need more song and dance from these notorieties? Grow up, bud! There is nothing to gloat about making another black or white man a new convert.  It is very childish and immature!
-SD

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Amer Aleem <ameraleem@yahoo.com>
To: Amer Aleem <ameraleem@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
 
                                             52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam

52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam 2011-2012 [HD]
 

 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
               -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190
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[mukto-mona] Fw: Washington Post's Letter to Editor: "My plea to fellow Muslims" by Shahina Bashir



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/my-plea-to-fellow-muslims/2012/09/18/ca214c26-ffff-11e1-bbf0-e33b4ee2f0e8_print.html
 
My plea to fellow Muslims
Published: September 18
 
Regarding the Sept. 16 editorial "Winning the Middle East":
As I watched images of burning tires and U.S. flags and heard chants of "Allahu Akbar" on the television screen, I couldn't help but shudder to think that my co-religionists are causing such destruction. Where did they get the notion that any insult to the prophet Muhammad is a license to kill and cause mayhem? Which Koran are they reading that justifies such violence to protect the honor of the very man who was sent as a mercy to mankind?
It is a shame to see the state of the Muslim world today. But no power can change this state unless the people change themselves. I plead to my fellow Muslims: Go back to the true teachings of the Koran and the prophet Muhammad and spend your energy saving and honoring lives and properties, rather than destroying them.
 
Shahina Bashir, Germantown





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[mukto-mona] Is Saudi monarchy collapsing in near future?



This is a good report amid Arab spring!

উত্তরাধিকার সংকটে সৌদি বাদশাহী

rtnn নতুন বিশ্ব পরিস্থিতিতে সৌদি ক্ষমতার মসনদ ভবিষ্যতে উত্তরাধিকার নিয়ে সংকটের মুখোমুখি হতে যাচ্ছে বলে মত প্রকাশ করেছেন এক মার্কিন সাংবাদিক। তার মতে, মধ্যপ্রাচ্য ও উত্তর আফ্রিকার দেশগুলোতে ২০১০ সালে শুরু হওয়া গণতান্ত্রিক জাগরণের পর নতুন জেনারেশনের নবতর চিন্তার ফলে পরিবর্তন অবশ্যম্ভাবী। ওয়াশিংটন পোস্ট বলছে, বাদশাহ আবদুল আজিজ বিন সৌদের জেষ্ঠ্য পুত্রগণের যুগ মোটামুটি শেষের পথে। বিস্তারিত

বৈঠক ব্যর্থ

rtnn ভারতে পশ্চিম বাংলার মুখ্যমন্ত্রী মমতা বন্দোপাধ্যায়ের তৃণমূল আর ক্ষমতাসীন কংগ্রেসের নেতৃত্বে ইউপিএর মধ্যে টানাপড়েন আরো লম্বা হচ্ছে। দুপক্ষের কেউ তাদের অবস্থান থেকে নড়ছে না। জোটের সাথে তৃণমূল নেত্রী মমতাসহ দলটির নেতাদের বুধবার সন্ধ্যায় সর্বশেষ আলোচনাও ভেস্তে গেছে। প্রধানমন্ত্রী মনমোহন সিং এর বাসভবনে এ বৈঠক শেষে জানানো হয়েছে, কংগ্রেস নেতৃত্বাধীন ইউপিএ জোট যে সকল অর্থনৈতিক সংস্কারের সিদ্ধান্তসমুহ নিয়েছে তার বাস্তবায়ন করা হবে। বিস্তারিত
পদ্মা সেতু:

দুর্নীতি তদন্তে কানাডা যাবে দুদক টিম: চেয়ারম্যান

rtnn পদ্মা সেতুর দুর্নীতি তদন্তে দুর্নীতি দমন কমিশনের (দুদক) অনুসন্ধানকারী দল কানাডা যাবে বলে জানিয়েছেন কমিশনের চেয়ারম্যান গোলাম রহমান। বুধবার বিকেলে দুদক কার্যালয়ে সাংবাদিকদের বিভিন্ন প্রশ্নের জবাবে এ কথা বলেন কমিশন চেয়ারম্যান। কানাডার সহায়তা ছাড়া পদ্মা সেতুর পূর্ণাঙ্গ তদন্ত সম্ভব নয় জানিয়ে গোলাম রহমান অভিযোগ করে বলেন, 'কানাডা সরকার এ বিষয়ে দুদককে ঠিকমত সহায়তা করছে না।' বিস্তারিত


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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM



Yes, that is a correct diagnosis. Slavery is basically a stigma and people would love to forget that chapter by converting back to their ancestral religion. However, I do not see any point gloating about it.
-SD 
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
From the link in the beginning of this thread, I do see quite a few 'successful' and 'famous' people converting to Islam. However, many of them cannot be called 'educated'. I do not think educated people would convert to any religion; may be make a slight exception for Buddhism.
 
Notice that quite a few of the 'successful' and 'famous' people in the link had Islam and slavery in their ancestral background. I have no doubt that some of them found Islam in their root, and decided to convert back to that religion from Christianity, which they inherited from their slave ancestors. Of course, Christianity was imposed on their ancestors via the despicable practice of slavery. Their reverting to Islam had less to do with that religion than to shunning of slavery.
 
SuBain
 
===============================================
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
"Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam."

Misunderstanding of what? You think Europeans are bunch of idiots, who do not understand what Islam means? 'Great idea but you, idiots, you do not get it?' It sounds like a pygmy patronizing a great numbers of well educated and far superior civilized people of Europe. Please do not make yourself a fool. Go and live in any European city and find out what they talk about Islam. Most of them are very secular atheist minded and they do not entertain the idea that Islam is their solution. They are rather scared of Islamic migrant invasion and the changing demography? I see hardly any misunderstanding of these facts. Thank you.
-SD 
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
It is not the most important point in a discussion about religion but it has some importance. The fact that, a great number of Europeans reverting to Islam is noteworthy. Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam.

It is nice to see educated and successful men and women are accepting this faith on their own.

Because of the history Muslims had with mainly Christian Europe, it is worth making a note.

Personally I am more pleased that, many of these highly successful new Muslims are taking a lead on removing misunderstanding about Islam.

Having said that, I agree no one should gloat about it. Most of the people who "Gloat" are the once who does next to nothing to promote Islam. They just want to brag about Islam, their nation, political party, family.......and God knows what else.

It is important to understand, converting is a PERSONAL issue. Islam stands against forcing people to convert (Source: Al Qur'an 2:256).


Shalom!



-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
Cc: syed.aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>; akhtergolam <akhtergolam@gmail.com>; jnrsr53 <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>; subimal <subimal@yahoo.com>; farida_majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>; farid2002hossain <farid2002hossain@hotmail.com>; guhasb <guhasb@gmail.com>; srbanunz <srbanunz@gmail.com>; captchowdhury <captchowdhury@yahoo.ca>; mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; sonarbangladesh <sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; dahuk <dahuk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 6:43 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
So what? What is there to beat your chest about? The right question would be how many of these new converts (mostly blacks) would ever bring  you a Nobel prize? Does Islam need more song and dance from these notorieties? Grow up, bud! There is nothing to gloat about making another black or white man a new convert.  It is very childish and immature!
-SD

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Amer Aleem <ameraleem@yahoo.com>
To: Amer Aleem <ameraleem@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
 
                                             52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam

52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam 2011-2012 [HD]
 

 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
               -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190
.







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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM



We are talking about some 500,000 Muslims from Spain. Was that all because of misunderstanding? How many Armenians were killed byTurks?
There is no misunderstanding between Europeans and Muslims. This is a war whether you see it or not. These European nations do not want to be overwhelmed by Muslim demography. That is the ugly truth!
-SD
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
Misunderstanding of what? You think Europeans are bunch of idiots, who do not understand what Islam means? 'Great idea but you, idiots, you do not get it?' It sounds like a pygmy patronizing a great numbers of well educated and far superior civilized people of Europe. Please do not make yourself a fool. Go and live in any European city and find out what they talk about Islam. Most of them are very secular atheist minded and they do not entertain the idea that Islam is their solution. They are rather scared of Islamic migrant invasion and the changing demography? I see hardly any misunderstanding of these facts. Thank you.


>>>>>>>>>> It is always helpful that you READ my posts BEFORE you respond to it.

Here I have NOT called anyone "Idiot" (That is more of your style!). However the Europeans do have a long "History" (Many wars/conflicts over centuries) with Muslims. So it is quite obvious there are some misunderstandings between Muslims and non-Muslim Europeans. They lack knowledge of Islam since until recent years Europe was mostly a non-Muslim territory (Since forced deportation/murder of 1492). Also it is important to remember that, most of Muslim world was colonized by Europeans (Except Saudi Arabia and some smaller countries). So it is irrational to expect any "Love fest" instantly.

For example, Bangladeshis fought Pakistanis over 40 years ago, still our majority of politics revolves around 1971 and still it brings a lot of emotion among most of us.

Fortunately, since second world war many Muslims migrated to Europe and western world and relationship is slowly improving. But it is fair to say most western people don't know much about Islam. I am NOT blaming any parties but simply stating facts on ground.

Therefore, I disagree your idea that, there is no misunderstanding about Islam among Europeans. Those who live in or interact with western world knows VERY WELL that, there is a lot of "Opportunities" to remove misunderstanding of Islam in the western world.

Lastly, I do NOT consider all westerners fool neither do I consider myself a fool. I feel our Creator is fair to all of us and distributed fools and idiots among all nations of the world along with good people.
;-)

As I often say, there are good and bad people in all communities.

Shalom!



-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
"Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam."

Misunderstanding of what? You think Europeans are bunch of idiots, who do not understand what Islam means? 'Great idea but you, idiots, you do not get it?' It sounds like a pygmy patronizing a great numbers of well educated and far superior civilized people of Europe. Please do not make yourself a fool. Go and live in any European city and find out what they talk about Islam. Most of them are very secular atheist minded and they do not entertain the idea that Islam is their solution. They are rather scared of Islamic migrant invasion and the changing demography? I see hardly any misunderstanding of these facts. Thank you.
-SD 
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
It is not the most important point in a discussion about religion but it has some importance. The fact that, a great number of Europeans reverting to Islam is noteworthy. Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam.

It is nice to see educated and successful men and women are accepting this faith on their own.

Because of the history Muslims had with mainly Christian Europe, it is worth making a note.

Personally I am more pleased that, many of these highly successful new Muslims are taking a lead on removing misunderstanding about Islam.

Having said that, I agree no one should gloat about it. Most of the people who "Gloat" are the once who does next to nothing to promote Islam. They just want to brag about Islam, their nation, political party, family.......and God knows what else.

It is important to understand, converting is a PERSONAL issue. Islam stands against forcing people to convert (Source: Al Qur'an 2:256).


Shalom!



-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
Cc: syed.aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>; akhtergolam <akhtergolam@gmail.com>; jnrsr53 <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>; subimal <subimal@yahoo.com>; farida_majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>; farid2002hossain <farid2002hossain@hotmail.com>; guhasb <guhasb@gmail.com>; srbanunz <srbanunz@gmail.com>; captchowdhury <captchowdhury@yahoo.ca>; mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; sonarbangladesh <sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; dahuk <dahuk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 6:43 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
So what? What is there to beat your chest about? The right question would be how many of these new converts (mostly blacks) would ever bring  you a Nobel prize? Does Islam need more song and dance from these notorieties? Grow up, bud! There is nothing to gloat about making another black or white man a new convert.  It is very childish and immature!
-SD

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Amer Aleem <ameraleem@yahoo.com>
To: Amer Aleem <ameraleem@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:20:50 -0700 (PDT)

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                             52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam

52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam 2011-2012 [HD]
 




 




 
 
 


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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM



From the link in the beginning of this thread, I do see quite a few 'successful' and 'famous' people converting to Islam. However, many of them cannot be called 'educated'. I do not think educated people would convert to any religion; may be make a slight exception for Buddhism.
 
Notice that quite a few of the 'successful' and 'famous' people in the link had Islam and slavery in their ancestral background. I have no doubt that some of them found Islam in their root, and decided to convert back to that religion from Christianity, which they inherited from their slave ancestors. Of course, Christianity was imposed on their ancestors via the despicable practice of slavery. Their reverting to Islam had less to do with that religion than to shunning of slavery.
 
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From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
"Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam."

Misunderstanding of what? You think Europeans are bunch of idiots, who do not understand what Islam means? 'Great idea but you, idiots, you do not get it?' It sounds like a pygmy patronizing a great numbers of well educated and far superior civilized people of Europe. Please do not make yourself a fool. Go and live in any European city and find out what they talk about Islam. Most of them are very secular atheist minded and they do not entertain the idea that Islam is their solution. They are rather scared of Islamic migrant invasion and the changing demography? I see hardly any misunderstanding of these facts. Thank you.
-SD 
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] GREAT FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM

 
It is not the most important point in a discussion about religion but it has some importance. The fact that, a great number of Europeans reverting to Islam is noteworthy. Europe has been the center of many misunderstanding about Islam.

It is nice to see educated and successful men and women are accepting this faith on their own.

Because of the history Muslims had with mainly Christian Europe, it is worth making a note.

Personally I am more pleased that, many of these highly successful new Muslims are taking a lead on removing misunderstanding about Islam.

Having said that, I agree no one should gloat about it. Most of the people who "Gloat" are the once who does next to nothing to promote Islam. They just want to brag about Islam, their nation, political party, family.......and God knows what else.

It is important to understand, converting is a PERSONAL issue. Islam stands against forcing people to convert (Source: Al Qur'an 2:256).


Shalom!



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So what? What is there to beat your chest about? The right question would be how many of these new converts (mostly blacks) would ever bring  you a Nobel prize? Does Islam need more song and dance from these notorieties? Grow up, bud! There is nothing to gloat about making another black or white man a new convert.  It is very childish and immature!
-SD

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                                             52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam

52 Great Famous People Who Converted To Islam 2011-2012 [HD]
 

 
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[mukto-mona] Re: Is the picture a character certificate for Go Azam????



Memory lane.... 


On July 11, 1978, during the rule of President Ziaur Rahman, Ghulam Azam came to Bangladesh as a Pakistani citizen.   He came to Bangladesh on a Pakistani passport. Although Gaddre Azam Golam Azam's citizenship was restored, he never surrendered his Pakistani Passport or denounced his
Pakistani citizenship up until now.....!!!!

Mr. Anwar, you mention " politics without any charecter ...."  But bear in mind there is 
other side of the same story .... How about Jamaat's (Go Azam, Nizami gong) 
hobnobbing with BAL during nineteen nineties  and even today BNP without
admitting it's heinous role through 1971 and even after our independence
[Bangladesh Na Monjoor etc by Golam Azam gong ..... ]. Jammat has never
apologized to the people of Bangladesh for it's Al-Bodori atrocities and collaboration
with Yahia Khan's genocidal regime .... Jamaat is still adamant about it's collaboration
with Pakistani occupation and tries to justify it's crimes of 1971 in the name of Islam !!
What kind of Political Character is this ????

Do think Genocide and mass rapes committed by Pakistan Army and it's collaborators
can be justified by any true believer in Islam ?????
Obviously, Jamaat uses our religion Islam to mislead the ordinary believers  and simple 
minded Muslims .... It is a party of the religion-traders ... 

Memory lane.... 




     

SA

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:
Mr. Aslam,
 
Not at all. When they need the blessings of Go. Azam and other colaborators of Pak Junta they even do 'Kodombochi'
and forget to prosecute them for their crime against humanity. When they are not needed to fulfill their
political goal they will arrest/prosecute/punish them. This is called politics without any charecter of our
politicians. Do you agree ?

Thanks.

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Subject: Is the picture a character certificate for Go Azam????
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Subject: Is the picture a character certificate for Go Azam????
Mr. Mohiuddin Anwar
Is the picture a character certificate for Go Azam????
Can it absolve the guilt and crimes committed by Golam Azam in 1971?

How about his anti-Bangladesh treasonous activities after Liberation?
Golam Azam is the Adolf Eichmann of Bangladesh !!!!
Golam Azam's crimes includes :
                 (i)   Crimes against Bangladesh 
                 (ii)  Crimes against humanity
                 (iii) Crime against Islam ( for supporting and collaborating with  unIslamic and murderous
                       Yahia regime after the night of 25th March 1971 for 9 months of Genocides and attrocities
                        against the innocent people of occupied Bangladesh in the name of Islam)

Above all Golam Azam is the greatest Traitor, Gaddere Azam of all times in the history of
Bangladesh .... He is worst than Uzbekistan born Mir Jafor Ali Khan. 
Golam is local born.  Golam Azam not only collaborated with a foreign occupation, he collaborated 
with an foreign occupation regime that was engaged in Mass-rapes and Genocide in Bangladesh !!

FYI, The military junta of Yahya Khan decided to call an election in an attempt to legitimize 
the occupation regime. So, on October 12, 1971 Yahya Khan declared that an election will be 
held from November 25 to December 9. 

On October 15, the Pakistani government suddenly declared that 15 candidates 
were elected without any competition.   Gadder Ghulam Azam was one of those  winners "elected" unopposed. In this Yahia sponsored election Jamaat won 14 of the uncontested seats.
According to the declaration of November 2 as many as 53 candidates were elected without any competition:
Ref:  'White Paper on The Crisis in East Pakistan', Government of Pakistan, Islamadab, August 5, 1971 [pg. 6-8]
[ International Herald Tribune; November 4, 1971] . 

Secretly, Golam Azam was Killer General Aga Mohammad Yahia Khan's Prime Minister designate.
However, the plan fell apart due to the victory and emergence of People's Republic of Bangladesh
in mid-December 1971 .... The rest is history ,,,,,,


Related:

দেশ স্বাধীনের পরও পূর্ব-পাকিস্তান পুনরুদ্ধার কমিটি গঠন করে স্বাধীনতা বিপন্নের ষড়যন্ত্র করেছিল ঘাতক গুরু গো'আযম ॥
গোলাম আযম কার গোলাম হতে চেয়েছিলেন?
সোমবার, ১৭ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২ আশ্বিন ১৪১৯
রাজাকার-আলবদর বাহিনী গড়ার হোতা গোলাম আযম

গোলাম আযমের বিরুদ্ধে সিজারলিস্ট সাক্ষীর সাক্ষ্য
সোমবার, ১৭ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২ আশ্বিন ১৪১৯


মাস্টারমাইন্ড ছিলেন গোলাম আযম

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-09-11/news/288426

মুক্তিযুদ্ধবিরোধী পক্ষের প্রতীক ছিলেন গোলাম আযম
যুদ্ধাপরাধী বিচার
সুলতানা কামালের জবানবন্দী

http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=15&dd=2012-09-11&ni=108832

Related:
আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ১৬ (শেষাংশ)
মঙ্গলবার, ১১ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২৭ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ১৫ 


সোমবার, ১০ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২৬ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
 
আলবদর ১৯৭১ -১৪



রবিবার, ৯ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২৫ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯

 আলবদর ১৯৭১ -১৩ : আলবদর ১৯৭১ ॥ বুদ্ধিজীবী হত্যা ... ..
শনিবার, ৮ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২৪ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯

বুদ্ধিজীবী হত্যা; ২৫ মার্চ থেকে ১৪ ডিসেম্বর, ১৯৭১ - ঢাকা বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়

http://www.somewhereinblog.net/blog/onujibblog/28882040
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আলবদর ১৯৭১ -১২
শুক্রবার, ৭ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২৩ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ১১

বুধবার, ৫ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২১ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯

 আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ১০

মঙ্গলবার, ৪ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ২০ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯


আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ৯

সোমবার, ৩ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ১৯ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
  আলবদর ১৯৭১ 

http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-09-02&ni=107855 
রবিবার, ২ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ১৮ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
 আলবদর ১৯৭১  - 
শনিবার, ১ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১২, ১৭ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯

আলবদর ১৯৭১ -    
শুক্রবার, ৩১ আগষ্ট ২০১২, ১৬ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯

আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ৫ 
বৃহস্পতিবার, ৩০ আগষ্ট ২০১২, ১৫ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
আলবদর ১৯৭১ - ৪
বুধবার, ২৯ আগষ্ট ২০১২, ১৪ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
আলবদর ১৯৭১ - 
মঙ্গলবার, ২৮ আগষ্ট ২০১২, ১৩ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
আলবদর ১৯৭১ - 
সোমবার, ২৭ আগষ্ট ২০১২, ১২ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯
আলবদর ১৯৭১  - ১ 
রবিবার, ২৬ আগষ্ট ২০১২, ১১ ভাদ্র ১৪১৯ 

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৭১-এর যুদ্ধাপরাধ ও জামায়াতে ইসলামী

২৮ শে জানুয়ারি, ২০১১ সকাল ৯:৪৬

৭১ জামায়াতে ইসলামীর বর্বরতার আরেকটি নৃশংস উদ্যোগ হচ্ছে হিটলারের গেস্টাপো বাহিনীর কায়দায় আলবদর, আলশামস বাহিনী গঠন, বুদ্ধিজীবী হত্যার নীল নকশা প্রণয়ন এবং জামায়াতের ঘাতকদের দ্বারা সুপরিকল্পিতভাবে বিশিষ্ট বুদ্ধিজীবী ও পেশাজীবীদের হত্যা
যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের বিচারএকাত্তরে তাঁরা কে কোন দলে ছিলেন, কী করেছেন

http://dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=single&pub_no=124&cat_id=1&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&index=4

একাত্তরে গোলাম আযমের বিবৃতি

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/news/215745

থেমে থাকেনি গোলাম আযমের চক্রান্ত:
"... বাংলাদেশ রাষ্ট্র উচ্ছেদ করে আবারও পাকিস্তানের সঙ্গে একীভূত করতে গঠন করেন 'পূর্ব পাকিস্তান পুনরুদ্ধার কমিটি'। জামায়াতে ইসলামীর এ সাবেক আমির ২০০২ সালে প্রকাশিত তার নিজ জীবনী 'জীবনে যা দেখলাম' বইয়েও তা অকপটে স্বীকার করেছেন । ......."
"...১৯৭২ সালের জানুয়ারি গোলাম আযম যুক্তরাজ্যের লন্ডনে গঠন করেন 'পূর্ব পাকিস্তান পুনরুদ্ধার কমিটি'। ..."

রাজাকার-আলবদর বাহিনী গড়ার হোতা গোলাম আযম:

১৯৭২ সালে গোলাম আযম লন্ডনে 'পূর্ব পাকিস্তান পুনরুদ্ধার কমিটি' গঠন করেন এবং বাংলাদেশ রাষ্ট্র উচ্ছেদ করে আবার এই ভূখন্ডকে পাকিস্তানের অংশে পরিণত করার ষড়যন্ত্র করেন।


আলবদর বাহিনী প্রধানত জামায়াতের কর্মী দ্বারাই গঠিত হয়েছিল
 ইসলামী ছাত্র সংঘ' নাম পাল্টিয়ে 'বাংলাদেশ ইসলামী ছাত্র শিবির' নামে যাত্রা শুরু করে:  






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