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Scientific inventions start with idea or hypothesis; then come formulation, testing, etc. Indian scriptures contain some innovative ideas, especially in the field of warfare and space exploration. It will be your loss, if you want to trash them - because they are considered to be religious scriptures of some other people. It's not about believing or not believing those mythical stories, per se; it's about ideas embedded in those stories, especially about warfare and flying machines. There are vivid descriptions of very sophisticated warfare techniques (not involving horse, sword, bow and arrow). Some of those sophisticated techniques are reality in the modern warfare today; others are not yet realized. For example, you see Indra, in Ramayon, is fighting from behind the cloud, and sending 'Agniban' (missile) to earth. Also, you see descriptions of God or Goddess appearing before someone, who are desperately seeking their help. Isn't it like what we see on Star-Trek movies today? Such technique is still in the fiction to us, but those ancient people introduced this idea thousands of years back. Who knows – may be such digital-travel technique could become a reality someday. NASA is already working on a new mode of transportation to Mars (plutonium-based), which, if successful, will take only hours to go to Mars, instead of 9 months on the conventional technique used now. In a year or two, people will go on a pleasure trip to outer space. You have already seen how digital technologies have advanced. Now, you can talk face-to-face live (face-time technology) through your cell phone anywhere in the world. Who knows someday - we could be able to travel from one place to another in a digital form, which might have been the mode of transportation of Gods and Goddesses in those days. Even if we disbelieve those stories, yet, we must wonder - how did those people envision such sophisticated ideas in a period when only mode of transportation was on foot? Does it not make you wonder - where they got the knowledge from?
It is OK to be skeptical, but mind - there is a danger - you may be trashing some gems being over-skeptical; Indians may have done that already.
Jiten Roy
--- On Sun, 4/28/13, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 9:23 PMI hope Mr. Srinivasan will have some scientific outlook. A trust in history of science and an understanding of the difference between science and parascience are also essential. By trying to glorify the Hindu past, one should not make it laughable. I am Ok with Mr. Rahman buying this "cr---" as I know he is OK with genesis and other biblical myths. It is sad that Dr. Jiten Roy with a Ph.D in Physics and living in the USA feels encouraged by such postings.From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 6:47 AM
According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."
>>>>>>>> Don't know why Indian Air force spends so much money (Depriving poor Indians) buying aircraft from "Malicha" countries????
Shalom!
-----Original Message----- From: Sudhir-Architect <ar_sudhirkumar@yahoo.com> To: undisclosed recipients: ; Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 6:04 am Subject: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
What caused the sudden rush of these most powerful leaders of the Western World to go to Afghanistan, this report continues, was to directly by I Want This"view the discovery by US Military scientists of what is described as a "Vimana" entrapped in a "Time Well" that has already caused the "disappearance" of at least 8 American Soldiers trying to remove it from the cave it has been hidden in for the past estimated 5,000 years. Vimana Vimāna is a word with several meanings ranging from temple or palace to mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics. Reference to ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources, many are the well known ancient Indian Epics, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old sanskrit. It is claimed that a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships! Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull."
According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead." Steve Quayle Stephen Quayle is the author of five books. For over thirty years, he has been investigating ancient civilizations, giants, UFOs and biological warfare as they relate to the future of mankind. Stephen discusses the coming worst-case scenarios approaching this world and how they interrelate to each other. Earthquakes, volcanoes, nuclear and biological terrorism, coupled with the planned financial meltdown of the U.S. by I Want This"dollar will thrust us into unimagined tribulations. Stephen Quayle is on record as stating that we have moved from the realm of natural threats into the arena of supernaturally guided events of the unseen hand of evil orchestrating world events of unfathomable proportions.
[Attachment(s) from Sitangshu Guha included below]
Page: 265| USCIRF 2013 Annual Report
Today (30th April 2013) the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) released our Annual Report. You may find the full report online at: http://www.uscirf.gov/images/2013%20USCIRF%20Annual%20Report(1).pdf
BANGLADESH
BACKGROUND
The Commission continues to follow developments in Bangladesh, which was on USCIRF's Watch List
from 2005 to 2008. USCIRF removed Bangladesh from the Watch List after the Awami League party,
which is considered to promote secular policies and be favorable towards minority rights, won the 2008
general election and promised to implement religious freedom reforms. In the last reporting year,
Bangladesh continued to take positive steps in rectifying past religious freedom violations, including the
seizure of Hindu-owned land, and to protect vulnerable religious and ethnic minorities from exploitation
or violence, especially in the Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT). However, incidents of communal violence
occurred in 2012 and 2013 against Buddhists, Ahmadis, and Hindus.
In 2011, the Vested Property Return Act established an application process for families or individuals to
apply for the return of, or compensation for, Hindu property seized under the Vested Property Act. In
2012, as required by the Act, all districts widely published the properties eligible for return. Additionally,
the government established seven tribunals across the country to review and adjudicate return
applications. With respect to the CHT Peace Accords, the government has established the Land
Commission and the Task Force on Rehabilitation of Jumma Refugees and IDPs (internally displaced
persons). It also has reserved over 300 seats for minority students in universities and has been actively
recruiting religious and ethnic minority for the Bangladeshi police. These actions demonstrate a
governmental effort to resolve long-standing issues relating to IDPs and property confiscation and return.
VIOLENCE TARGETING RELIGIOUS MINORITIES
Regarding communal violence, in September 2012 in Ramu, Cox's Bazaar, 12 Buddhist temples and
approximately 50 Buddhist homes were set on fire, after false claims were made that a Buddhist youth
defamed Islam and the Qur'an on Facebook. Prime Minister Sheika Hasina condemned the attack, and
provided 24.8 million taka (approximately $315,000 U.S. dollars) in cash aid and building materials.
Over 450 individuals were arrested in 19 criminal cases, and a four-member Inquiry Committee was
formed to investigate the incident. After the reporting period, in February 2013, a mob described to be
over 20,000 Islamic extremists burned down the venue in Dhaka that the Ahmadi community intended to
use for their annual convention. It is unknown if any arrests were made. The convention was moved to
another venue and occurred without additional incidents.
Also after the close of the reporting period, in late February 2013, the conviction and death sentence by
hanging by the country's International War Crimes Tribunal of a Jamaat-e-Islami leader, Delawar
Hossain Sayedee, sparked violent attacks against Hindus and their religious temples and shrines, and
homes and businesses. Over 80 individuals died, and dozens of temples, shrines, homes and businesses
were burned down. The government was slow in responding to violence, and local police allegedly stood
by as the violence occurred. The government in early March began to deploy the army to stop the
violence, and a few perpetrators of violence were arrested. USCIRF will continue to monitor the situation
and the government's response.
Attachment(s) from Sitangshu Guha
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The architect initiated this dialogue writing about some kind of a few thousand years old old aviation machine, not some kind of digitizing machine that would convert a person into waves and send it do desired place. Or, are you probably thinking about time travel? Please, for the sake of sane thinking let us not charter into an unknown territory.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. Das, I am talking about 'ideas' embedded in those stories, not the authenticity of those stories or their origins; may be they came from the Greek Mythologies; doesn't matter.
You know how wireless transmission and communication works. To go from one place to another, you will ask a Satellite Station to – beam you off to a designated coordinate, and the operator will digitize you to transmit there wirelessly, no fuel or pilot will be needed. As I said before – these ideas are now in the science fictional stage.
Jiten Roy
--- On Mon, 4/29/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.comSudhir Srinivasan is a Doc Pannah under a Hindu garb. What was the fuel of the Vimana? Will power of the pilot? A flying carpet seems a better instrument of aviation to me. If Dr. Roy ever compared the Hindu deities with the Greek, he would be amazed by the similarity. If Vyas Dev is really Badrayana, a philosopher in the seventh century C.E., most Hindu religious literature might be a product of the expedition by Alexander the Great. One can still view the Hindu or Homeric Gods by staring at the sky looking through the eye and analytical ability of the ancient people.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
Very impressive piece of News by forwarded by Sudhir-Architect. I want to thank him for that.
My belief finally is coming to fruition. I have been hypothesizing that Hindu Gods and Goddesses are nothing but odd-looking alien creatures from other planets. They were much too sophisticated. They used to visit that part of the world (India) using some sort of star-war (beaming off-and-on) traveling technologies; they used to communicate with human on earth through telepathic means. We have instances in the scriptures showing the existence of such communications with human on earth. People, at that period, used to call them Gods and Goddesses, for lack of better words, from heaven (outer space). I think, later on, Bahmins introduced worshipping of those Gods and Goddesses for business sake.
You might ask – why they are not visiting the earth anymore. The answer is – human-race has become much too sophisticated and dangerous since then. Earth is not safe for them anymore to pay a visit. As you know - human, at that time, did not even know how to fly or travel from one place to another.
The question – what Indian Air Force is doing, and why are they not the leader in the art of flying and communication? I think they have been ignoring the wealth of information in their backyard forever, but foreigners, like US Air Force and NASA, did not; they have been studying these scriptures for ideas and clues. They have been learning Sanskrit Language to interpret Indian scriptural writings, and Indian Air Force are learning English to find out what US Air Force and NASA are doing. What a fallacy! Isn't it?
Jiten Roy
--- On Sun, 4/28/13, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 6:47 AM
According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."
>>>>>>>> Don't know why Indian Air force spends so much money (Depriving poor Indians) buying aircraft from "Malicha" countries????
Shalom!
-----Original Message-----
From: Sudhir-Architect <ar_sudhirkumar@yahoo.com>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 6:04 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery with Steve Quayle
What caused the sudden rush of these most powerful leaders of the Western World to go to Afghanistan, this report continues, was to directly by I Want This"view the discovery by US Military scientists of what is described as a "Vimana" entrapped in a "Time Well" that has already caused the "disappearance" of at least 8 American Soldiers trying to remove it from the cave it has been hidden in for the past estimated 5,000 years.
Vimana
Vimāna is a word with several meanings ranging from temple or palace to mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.
Reference to ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources, many are the well known ancient Indian Epics, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old sanskrit.
It is claimed that a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships!
Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull."
According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."
Steve Quayle
Stephen Quayle is the author of five books. For over thirty years, he has been investigating ancient civilizations, giants, UFOs and biological warfare as they relate to the future of mankind. Stephen discusses the coming worst-case scenarios approaching this world and how they interrelate to each other. Earthquakes, volcanoes, nuclear and biological terrorism, coupled with the planned financial meltdown of the U.S. by I Want This"dollar will thrust us into unimagined tribulations. Stephen Quayle is on record as stating that we have moved from the realm of natural threats into the arena of supernaturally guided events of the unseen hand of evil orchestrating world events of unfathomable proportions.
