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Sunday, April 7, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Scientific basis of Vastu Shastra & Ancient Indian Customs - A talk by Sri Sri Ravi



Hi,

According to me there is no scientific basis of Vastu Shastra. I also want to add that all Indian customs do not necessarily have any scientific basis.

It is a great pity that we are citing unauthentic sources. I think we should together read some literature on philosophy of science. And then discuss on these issues.

I have a duty to aware people about superstitions and promote scientific temper (Article 51 A, Constitution of India). I do think that Vastu and similar practices are superstitions and people should not be misguided (my right is secured by Article 19).

Thanking you.

With best regards,

Saurav


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Sudhir-Architect <ar_sudhirkumar@yahoo.com> wrote:


Scientific basis of Vastu Shastra & Ancient Indian Customs - A talk by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

9th February 2011. Vastu Shastra and other ancient Indian customs and their Scientific basis.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1uptyMioIA

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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a



Actually, insulting a religion is not hatred, insulting a human being is. Inciting violence, discrimination, and injustice via speech against anyone or any community (Muslim, Hindu, non-believer, whatever) is hate speech.
 
If someone buys a copy of the Geeta and burns it in his private space, or at a reasonable distance away from the Hindu believers, that would not be hating the Hindus. However, vandalizing a temple, hurting people there, burning religious books there, etc. would be hatred against the Hindus. The same standard should apply for other religions and their believers and for non-religious philosophies and their followers. Of course, no sane person would spend his money to buy some books and burn them. I believe, if the Muslims, Hindus, Christians, etc. bought millions of copies of Mao Zedong's biography and burned them, the Chinese Communists would be smart enough to print millions more copies and make money by selling them to the religious bozos.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a
 
Bangladesh Hindu Buddha Christian Unity Council is demanding for enacting "Hate speech" law in Bangladesh for a long time. When someone calls "Malaun" to a Hindu, this is not only an insult to a person, but also a derogatory remark on their religion. If court punishes bloggers for the derogatory remarks on Islam, Hindus should be able to use this instance to file a lawsuit when someone calls them Malaun. Hindus will welcome enacting Hate-speech Law in Bangladesh. Let's wait and see what happens.

Jiten Roy

--- On Sun, 4/7/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 7, 2013, 8:24 PM

 
"declare "hate speech" as illegal."??  Instead, hate speech should be declared a monopoly for the Islamist, as it has been all along.  However, atheism is not the main issue here.  It is being used to shield the war criminals.
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 
I am a firm supporter of "Freedom of speech" and like to have this "Fundamental right" protected and declare "hate speech" as illegal.

A blog is a private space
HOWEVER "Bolg" is NOT private. It can be access by millions (Or even billions) of people in the net.

As I mentioned earlier, we should have freedom to discuss our thoughts, ideas etc. We should not waste our freedom on making personal attacks or threats. As long we take responsibility of our works and words, we'll be fine.

Shalom!
-----Original Message-----From: Myounus sheikh <mysheikh2003@yahoo.com>To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 6:02 amSubject: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a
 
A blog is a private space and not a public one like newspapers, radio ot TV etc.; Why should people go to blog which is not according to their mental levels? Therefore every person has the right to express any opinion in one's privae space. These arrests are the signs of Nazi-style Islamic persecution and must by condemed by all.Younes SHEIKH


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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a



Bangladesh Hindu Buddha Christian Unity Council is demanding for enacting "Hate speech" law in Bangladesh for a long time. When someone calls "Malaun" to a Hindu, this is not only an insult to a person, but also a derogatory remark on their religion. If court punishes bloggers for the derogatory remarks on Islam, Hindus should be able to use this instance to file a lawsuit when someone calls them Malaun. Hindus will welcome enacting Hate-speech Law in Bangladesh. Let's wait and see what happens.


Jiten Roy


--- On Sun, 4/7/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 7, 2013, 8:24 PM

 

"declare "hate speech" as illegal."??  Instead, hate speech should be declared a monopoly for the Islamist, as it has been all along.  However, atheism is not the main issue here.  It is being used to shield the war criminals.


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 

I am a firm supporter of "Freedom of speech" and like to have this "Fundamental right" protected and declare "hate speech" as illegal.


A blog is a private space

HOWEVER "Bolg" is NOT private. It can be access by millions (Or even billions) of people in the net.

As I mentioned earlier, we should have freedom to discuss our thoughts, ideas etc. We should not waste our freedom on making personal attacks or threats. As long we take responsibility of our works and words, we'll be fine.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Myounus sheikh <mysheikh2003@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 6:02 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a

 
A blog is a private space and not a public one like newspapers, radio ot TV etc.; Why should people go to blog which is not according to their mental levels? Therefore every person has the right to express any opinion in one's privae space. These arrests are the signs of Nazi-style Islamic persecution and must by condemed by all.

Younes SHEIKH




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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a



The faith of the 'believers' is so fragile that it can't stand any honest query or criticism.


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I wish every religionist would be like you, but - it is not. Bangladesh economy is going down; social framework in Bangladesh is cracking. And all these are going on for the political power struggle. I do not think this destructive politics started because of election season, BNP started 'Sarkar-Poton (Dethrone-Government)' movement right after their defeat in the last election. They are still shouting to dethrone the government even though election is knocking at the door. Why would they want to dethrone an elected government, unless the government has committed anti-state activities? This is an unlawful demand by a political party, which only invites violence, not healthy political environment. Those leaders need to be held accountable for misusing such a sacred political instrument. Anyone wants to use this instrument need to justify it before using it. BNP has misused it so much that people don't pay attention to this call anymore. 

 

BNP wants to use anything and everything, including religion, to dethrone government. BNP leaders announced solidarity with Hijrat Islam yesterday, and demanded punishment for 'Nastik' Bloggers. What a naked political pandering!   

 

You said – 'blogsite' is not a private space, since anyone can access it. I agree. But, the issue is not if it is a public domain or not, it is the individual rights issue. If someone commits SIN by being a Nastik, others have only right to render counseling against such action only; they have no right to ask for punishment, unless it is declared unlawful in the country. As far as I know, it is not unlawful to become Nastik in Bangladesh. So, don't make it a lame excuse to score political points. Many speakers in the Hefajati-rally asked for the caretaker government in their speech. What that tells you. This whole 'Nastik' issue is a political mockery of religion. All those 'Hujurs' who marched to Dhaka yesterday should save their energies for a patriotic march when need arises. This  is a non-issue, and does not deserve long-march. 

 

Awami League should understand all these under current before they act on anything. I can bet you - those bloggers and their supporters are all indirectly helping Awami League government policies, and they will be a big plus for Awami League in the coming election. So, my advice to Awami-leaderships is - let them free, before you alienate your big support base.

 

You have seen polarization of BNP towards center-right parties. Awami League is trying to court both sides. In doing so, they are only alienating their main support base, which is center left young generation. This generation could get turned off from politics, and that will mean victory for BNP/Jamat in the next election.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Sun, 4/7/13, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 7, 2013, 6:28 AM


 

I am a firm supporter of "Freedom of speech" and like to have this "Fundamental right" protected and declare "hate speech" as illegal.


A blog is a private space

HOWEVER "Bolg" is NOT private. It can be access by millions (Or even billions) of people in the net.

As I mentioned earlier, we should have freedom to discuss our thoughts, ideas etc. We should not waste our freedom on making personal attacks or threats. As long we take responsibility of our works and words, we'll be fine.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Myounus sheikh <mysheikh2003@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 6:02 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a

 
A blog is a private space and not a public one like newspapers, radio ot TV etc.; Why should people go to blog which is not according to their mental levels? Therefore every person has the right to express any opinion in one's privae space. These arrests are the signs of Nazi-style Islamic persecution and must by condemed by all.

Younes SHEIKH




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"declare "hate speech" as illegal."??  Instead, hate speech should be declared a monopoly for the Islamist, as it has been all along.  However, atheism is not the main issue here.  It is being used to shield the war criminals.


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 

I am a firm supporter of "Freedom of speech" and like to have this "Fundamental right" protected and declare "hate speech" as illegal.


A blog is a private space

HOWEVER "Bolg" is NOT private. It can be access by millions (Or even billions) of people in the net.

As I mentioned earlier, we should have freedom to discuss our thoughts, ideas etc. We should not waste our freedom on making personal attacks or threats. As long we take responsibility of our works and words, we'll be fine.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Myounus sheikh <mysheikh2003@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 6:02 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Bloggers should be punished duly if they used derogatory words a

 
A blog is a private space and not a public one like newspapers, radio ot TV etc.; Why should people go to blog which is not according to their mental levels? Therefore every person has the right to express any opinion in one's privae space. These arrests are the signs of Nazi-style Islamic persecution and must by condemed by all.

Younes SHEIKH




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[mukto-mona] No hortal please

Mr. Anwar,

Thanks for the question. In my humble opinion, there should be no hortal at all, no matter who called it. Every person can STOP working himself/herself if he/she does not like to work as it is his/her right to work or not to work. But nobody should STOP another person from working if that other person wants to work as the other person has the right to work.
 
With best regards,
Em

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Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [KHABOR] Please save Bangladesh (Ershad's JP will provide drinkkin g water to Long March attendees !

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Mr. Pannah,
 
What's your opinion about Nastik Bloggers and anti-Islamist leftists who called for Hortal during the historic LongMarch?
Was it necessary to call for Hortal at night ?
This is the first time in Bangladesh any groupo called Hortal at night?
Who's protecting the Nastik Bloggeres until now ?
Is it Sheikh Has8ina herself ?
Why not protesting her role dividing the nation and almost a civil war like situation in Bangladesh ?


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Subject: [KHABOR] Please save Bangladesh (Ershad's JP will provide drinkking water to Long March attendees !
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:53:44 -0700 (PDT)



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Dear Readers,

Please raise your voice against these extreme measures of the religious fanatics (hortal or long march) to save the National Assets of Bangladesh.

With best regards,
Muktijodha Emarat Hossain Pannah

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Dear Readers:
 
Why we are fighting with each other, destroying our national assets, and making Bangladesh poorer everyday? Bangladesh belongs to all Bangladeshis and needs to be protected by all Bangladeshi also. May I recommend the following to my dear Bangladeshi brothers and sisters?
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1. Please STOP profanity and do not attack any religion - religions are sacred and must be honored
2. Please let region be peoples' private affair and don't mingled sacred Religions with State affairs
3. Bangladesh belongs to all Bangladeshis - Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, and others alike
4. Please maintain good but mutually respectable relationship with all the neighboring countries
5. Please do not destroy the hard earned freedom of Bangladesh - save it jointly at any cost
6. Please drop extremism and be MODERATE - establish your right and honor the right of others
7. Please promote the freedom of speech - everybody has the right to speak but not to hurt others
8. Please promote the technical education - do not stay behind - world is moving fast in technology
9. Please STOP hortal - it is OK if you do not want to work but you can't violate others' right to work
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With best regards,
Muktijodha Emarat Hossain Pannah
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Doctor of Management (Cybersecurity, Privacy, and Identity Theft), MS, MSc., CISSP, CAP, CISM, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM, Foundations of Cybersecurity
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 6:57 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Savage attack by Shibir : Another cop in Rajshahi brutally assaulted; his gun, walkie-talkie taken away

TUESDAY, APRIL 02, 2013

Savage attack by Shibir

Another cop in Rajshahi brutally assaulted; his gun, walkie-talkie taken away

STAFF CORRESPONDENT, RAJSHAHI

  
A swarm of Islami Chhatra Shibir cadres attacks police officer Jahangir Alam during a clash at Shalbagan of Rajshahi yesterday and one of them tries to get his sidearm out of its holster. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
A swarm of Islami Chhatra Shibir cadres attacks police officer Jahangir Alam during a clash at Shalbagan of Rajshahi yesterday and one of them tries to get his sidearm out of its holster. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
Within 24 hours of hurling bombs at police, Islami Chhatra Shibir men yesterday unleashed a pre-planned attack on the law enforcers again, leaving four injured, one critically, and snatching a pistol, a walkie-talkie and a safety helmet.
Around 150 Shibir men arrived at Shalbagan in the city from different directions around 10:30am. About a dozen unsuspecting armed policemen were standing guard by the main road. In a flash, the Shibir men transformed themselves into a violent mob, unleashing a direct attack on the on-duty policemen, witnesses said.
Before the policemen could realise what was happening, the attackers hurled several powerful cocktails, spreading chaos and confusion in the area. The law enforcers, enveloped in thick smoke from the blasts, ran for cover firing rubber bullets at the attackers. But the attack was so intense that they could not hold ground for long, the witnesses added.
As the policemen tried to recover from the shock and confusion, the attackers showered them with brickbats, pinning down one of their colleagues on the main road Sub-inspector (SI) Jahangir Alam, the in-charge of Upashahar police camp and the team leader there.
The Shibir assailants took off Jahangir's helmet and wrestled him down on the road. A Shibir man kept hitting him on the head with his helmet, said the police and witnesses.
As Jahangir fell on the ground, some Shibir men held him down, while others brought in a supply of bricks and hit Jahangir ruthlessly on the head.
When the brutal assault was seemingly over, the attackers pelted the helpless policeman with more brickbats. Profusely bleeding from his head injuries, Jahangir was lying unconscious on the road.
One of the attackers, wearing a red shirt, slipped his hand into the holster of the unconscious policeman and made away with the pistol. Another, wearing a blue T-shirt, left the scene with Jahangir's helmet and walkie-talkie.
As Jahangir lay unconscious on the road, panicked residents, shopkeepers and pedestrians deserted the area. Suddenly, a young man and a woman rushed to the injured policeman, screaming for help.
The young man stopped a battery-operated three-wheeler, while the woman aided by a third person lifted the injured man onto the vehicle and took him to Rajshahi Medical College Hospital with the crushed head of the police officer on her lap.
Earlier in the attack, a cadre holds him by the head while another one kicks him.
Earlier in the attack, a cadre holds him by the head while another one kicks him. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
A Shibir activist bashes the cop's head with a brick.
A Shibir activist bashes the cop's head with a brick. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
More Shibir men join in. 4. They try to get his firearm chained to his waist.
More Shibir men join in. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
At least four other policemen were also injured in the 30-minute-long Shibir mayhem, said SM Moniruzzaman, commissioner of Rajshahi Metropolitan Police (RMP).
RMCH neurosurgeon Dr Ekramullah said Jahangir needed several stitches for his head injuries. "He is still under observation, although he regained senses after treatment," he added.
Of the other injured policemen, Shafikul Islam was admitted to RMCH, while Latifur Haider and Zakir Hossain were admitted to Police Lines Hospital after primary treatment at RMCH.
"We fired several shots from shotguns, but the attackers started blasting bombs one after another forcing us to look for shelter," said Latifur who received splinters in the right hand.
"As we advanced to save sir [Jahangir], they blasted bombs targeting us," said Shafikul who received several splinters also in the right hand.
They try to get his firearm chained to his waist.
They try to get his firearm chained to his waist. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
Jahangir Alam keeps on getting blow after blow while a Shibir activist finally picks up his sidearm.
Jahangir Alam keeps on getting blow after blow while a Shibir activist finally picks up his sidearm. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
A cadre rips out the chained firearm while the cop lies on the road motionless.
A cadre rips out the chained firearm while the cop lies on the road motionless. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
Police arrested five Shibir men including one with a machete, said Ziaur Rahman, officer-in-charge of Boalia police. He said Shibir men had made the attack in a planned way.
Attacks on the police by Jamaat-Shibir across the country have been well planned and deliberate since war crimes convict Delwar Hossain Sayedee was given capital punishment on February 28.
Since then, eight policemen have been killed and 267 injured, 37 critically, in clashes with Jamaat-Shibir men across the country.
On Sunday, Shibir men in a hit-and-run attack hurled several bombs at the police in the city, severing the right wrist of an SI.
Also Read:

TUESDAY, APRIL 02, 2013

ATTACK ON POLICE CONTINUES

Jamaat, Shibir bash head of cop in Dinajpur

STAR ONLINE REPORT

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15 hours ago – Members of the press and local Jharna Begum rush to the ... who had savagely been beaten up by Shibir activists at Shalbagan in the city.
Members of the press and local Jharna Begum rush to the policeman's aid. Photo: Star/Focus Bangla
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Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Ershad's JP will provide drinkking water to Long March attendees !

 


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