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Sunday, May 18, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] Re:



He might go for an Israeli citizenship due his spousal connection?
Where have you been hiding? We need your sharp knife to size up some spammers at Muktomona.
-SD


 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss

On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:48 PM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Amartya Sen would probably cease to call him an Indian in protest of Modi being the PM.

Sent from my iPad

On May 18, 2014, at 11:31 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Agree, Mr. Roy!. People' mandate needs to be respected when the election was totally free and fair by any criteria. I do not think Modi needs to apologize for being a damn Hindu. The person should be given a chance to serve his country. He is not another Morsi or Khomeni type, who will go for quick constitutional change to make India as a Hindu Rashtra. Neighbor countries should rather solve their own damn minority cleansing problem before accusing Modi for being too communal. The hypocrisy needs to be addresssed.

Modi's trade liberalization is must for India to take it to the next stage of development. He should bring Jagdish Bhagbati to India and run the show.  Amartya Sen would probably stay away from the scenario for his own reasons. Maybe, Mamta should use him to create the Bangla miracle?
-SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:18 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Most cases communal political attacks on religious minorities can happen from the political party that lost, not from the party that won. Why would a winning party destabilize the country; why would they create their own problem in the international political world, unless it is BNP? BNP started attacking religious minorities after winning the election in 2001.
       
Mr. Bipul, BJP was also in power before. How many riots happened all over the India, except Gujrat, after BJP came to power? Did riots stop after BJP lost power and Congress took over the helm in India? 
I believe - religious minorities will be better off with BJP in power in India. Leaders of Islamic groups congratulated Modi for his success. Do you know that - BJP has many Muslim leaders, including Spokesperson of BJP.
So, please don't make hasty provocative meaningless forecast. Just wait and see. 

Jiten Roy
   

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:43 PM, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Brother Bipul,
Please do not guarantee anything. In regards to nationalism BJP is not any different than BNP or Pakistan's Muslim league. Most Bangladeshi minorities hate BNP/Jamat regime but that does mean if BNP/Jamat ever participate and win the election, they will exterminate all the minorities. That is a preposterous idea. Wait and watch Modi cutting the red tape for Indian businesses. Since, everything is seen through the prism of religion, he would not have a smooth path but with his great majority, he will push for the real reforms. Not letting BJP come to the power should not be anybody's business and that would have created real problem in the society. I think Indian Muslims are very educated and will do right thing to work with him. He will put Muslims in his cabinet and that would set the tone.

With the same breath, I would ask our PM to call for an early election and go for true mandate for greater good of the country. I know, you will have problem with that but in long run, that would be big thing for Bangladeshi democracy. We have to start respecting people's mandate. There is no alternative to it. We have to bite the bullet soon or later.
-SD


2014-05-17 17:21 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Dear Shah Bhai,

Your disagreement is respected but we have to see, and you will see the result within 6 months, what N Modi will do with India, I can guarantee you that soon all over the India cross country will have riot and N Modi will be responsible for that, so we need to wait,

Thanks 

Bipul  

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Nahar,
I am sorry to disagree with you. India has been good democracy since 1947 and it has gone through many elections and many leaders have come and gone in six decades. Modi might be communal person but we got plenty of those types amongst our Awamis, BNPs and JPs. The examples are just too many to name here. India needed a change from Congress dynastic rule and voters have chosen Modi to lead their country. Indians are more clever than you think. Modi will be molded as according to the Indian constitution and he will do great things for India. If not, Indian voters will boot him out before his term. I understand, you are an Awami devotee but that does not mean you are automatically right. Thank you. Change is great and it is a must medicine in the politics!
-SD


2014-05-17 13:32 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Western internal propaganda make N Modi win Indian election, they spent billions of billions dollar for these, and now India will be 20 years behind by N Modi's leadership.

N Modi is a fanatic, fundamentalist, arrogant, he cannot offer anything good to India.

Very sad news for India .....

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Mrs Fara,
>
> Your article if good and all the references are authentic, but the content or it's truthfulness is part of BNP Jamaat and our captive slave shushils propaganda against Shamim Osman.
>
> SHAMIM OSMAN AND HIS FAMILY IS A TRUE PATRIOT FAMILY IN BANGLADESH.
>
> First of all with due respect shamim Osman is not a god father, he is real politician and a true patriot.
>
> Mr Osman and his family has a very deep and long glorious historical AL background, and their patriotism through our 1971 independence movements are unparalleled and unquestionable,
>
> Now question is why everyone called him god father ;
>
> This is our leftist our shushil and media's long term meditation and practice to destroy AL politics from N Gonj (N Gonj called dandi of Bangladesh) and to do that they have to destroy Ivy (Mr Chunka's daughter) and Osman family, and our shushils fit example mr muzahidul Islam Selim and mahfuzulllah and others utilized Jamaat as conspirator and they used our media as propaganda machine.
>
> Shamim Osman indeed a patriot and please read his family (hira zheel) their house where lots of crisis time of Bangladesh and AL has passed their times to regroup and reorganize AL and muktijuddho.
>
> We should respect that and how they Osman family protect N Gonj during our liberation period was goldenin our history again these British captive slaves our shushil dr KAMAL and sultana KAMAL should be in justice for doing and ruining our country's image internally and externally. So Dr Younus.
>
> Joy Bangla
>
> Bipul KAMAL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 17, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> উন্নতি পরে, আগে বাঁচতে দিন
>> মিনা ফারাহ
>> মারিও পুজোর বিশ্ববিখ্যাত উপন্যাস 'গডফাদার' পড়েছি। কিন্তু ফেডারেল
>> রিপাবলিক অব নারায়ণগঞ্জের ঘরে ঘরে সাপের মতো বংশবিস্তার করা গডফাদাররা
>> 'কারলোন' ক্রাইম ফ্যামিলিকেও লজ্জা দেয়। এমনকি এরশাদ শিকদারের মতো ভয়ঙ্কর
>> গডফাদারকেও পেছনে ফেলে দিলো নারায়ণগঞ্জ। এই গডফাদাররা প্রশাসনকে পুঁজি
>> করে প্রতিদিন গড়ে দুই-তিনটা খ




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[mukto-mona] Re: Ready for Hillary



Hilary would be a great candidate but I would not vote for a third democratic term regardless who might be the candidate. A regime change would be far better medicine for all Americans before the parasitic democrats take the last bite of their entitled pie. I will cross the line this time. It would be about time.
-SD


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Nazda Alam <alamnazdak@comcast.net> wrote:
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re:



Amartya Sen would probably cease to call him an Indian in protest of Modi being the PM.

Sent from my iPad

On May 18, 2014, at 11:31 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Agree, Mr. Roy!. People' mandate needs to be respected when the election was totally free and fair by any criteria. I do not think Modi needs to apologize for being a damn Hindu. The person should be given a chance to serve his country. He is not another Morsi or Khomeni type, who will go for quick constitutional change to make India as a Hindu Rashtra. Neighbor countries should rather solve their own damn minority cleansing problem before accusing Modi for being too communal. The hypocrisy needs to be addresssed.

Modi's trade liberalization is must for India to take it to the next stage of development. He should bring Jagdish Bhagbati to India and run the show.  Amartya Sen would probably stay away from the scenario for his own reasons. Maybe, Mamta should use him to create the Bangla miracle?
-SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:18 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Most cases communal political attacks on religious minorities can happen from the political party that lost, not from the party that won. Why would a winning party destabilize the country; why would they create their own problem in the international political world, unless it is BNP? BNP started attacking religious minorities after winning the election in 2001.
       
Mr. Bipul, BJP was also in power before. How many riots happened all over the India, except Gujrat, after BJP came to power? Did riots stop after BJP lost power and Congress took over the helm in India? 
I believe - religious minorities will be better off with BJP in power in India. Leaders of Islamic groups congratulated Modi for his success. Do you know that - BJP has many Muslim leaders, including Spokesperson of BJP.
So, please don't make hasty provocative meaningless forecast. Just wait and see. 

Jiten Roy
   

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:43 PM, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Brother Bipul,
Please do not guarantee anything. In regards to nationalism BJP is not any different than BNP or Pakistan's Muslim league. Most Bangladeshi minorities hate BNP/Jamat regime but that does mean if BNP/Jamat ever participate and win the election, they will exterminate all the minorities. That is a preposterous idea. Wait and watch Modi cutting the red tape for Indian businesses. Since, everything is seen through the prism of religion, he would not have a smooth path but with his great majority, he will push for the real reforms. Not letting BJP come to the power should not be anybody's business and that would have created real problem in the society. I think Indian Muslims are very educated and will do right thing to work with him. He will put Muslims in his cabinet and that would set the tone.

With the same breath, I would ask our PM to call for an early election and go for true mandate for greater good of the country. I know, you will have problem with that but in long run, that would be big thing for Bangladeshi democracy. We have to start respecting people's mandate. There is no alternative to it. We have to bite the bullet soon or later.
-SD


2014-05-17 17:21 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Dear Shah Bhai,

Your disagreement is respected but we have to see, and you will see the result within 6 months, what N Modi will do with India, I can guarantee you that soon all over the India cross country will have riot and N Modi will be responsible for that, so we need to wait,

Thanks 

Bipul  

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Nahar,
I am sorry to disagree with you. India has been good democracy since 1947 and it has gone through many elections and many leaders have come and gone in six decades. Modi might be communal person but we got plenty of those types amongst our Awamis, BNPs and JPs. The examples are just too many to name here. India needed a change from Congress dynastic rule and voters have chosen Modi to lead their country. Indians are more clever than you think. Modi will be molded as according to the Indian constitution and he will do great things for India. If not, Indian voters will boot him out before his term. I understand, you are an Awami devotee but that does not mean you are automatically right. Thank you. Change is great and it is a must medicine in the politics!
-SD


2014-05-17 13:32 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Western internal propaganda make N Modi win Indian election, they spent billions of billions dollar for these, and now India will be 20 years behind by N Modi's leadership.

N Modi is a fanatic, fundamentalist, arrogant, he cannot offer anything good to India.

Very sad news for India .....

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Mrs Fara,
>
> Your article if good and all the references are authentic, but the content or it's truthfulness is part of BNP Jamaat and our captive slave shushils propaganda against Shamim Osman.
>
> SHAMIM OSMAN AND HIS FAMILY IS A TRUE PATRIOT FAMILY IN BANGLADESH.
>
> First of all with due respect shamim Osman is not a god father, he is real politician and a true patriot.
>
> Mr Osman and his family has a very deep and long glorious historical AL background, and their patriotism through our 1971 independence movements are unparalleled and unquestionable,
>
> Now question is why everyone called him god father ;
>
> This is our leftist our shushil and media's long term meditation and practice to destroy AL politics from N Gonj (N Gonj called dandi of Bangladesh) and to do that they have to destroy Ivy (Mr Chunka's daughter) and Osman family, and our shushils fit example mr muzahidul Islam Selim and mahfuzulllah and others utilized Jamaat as conspirator and they used our media as propaganda machine.
>
> Shamim Osman indeed a patriot and please read his family (hira zheel) their house where lots of crisis time of Bangladesh and AL has passed their times to regroup and reorganize AL and muktijuddho.
>
> We should respect that and how they Osman family protect N Gonj during our liberation period was goldenin our history again these British captive slaves our shushil dr KAMAL and sultana KAMAL should be in justice for doing and ruining our country's image internally and externally. So Dr Younus.
>
> Joy Bangla
>
> Bipul KAMAL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 17, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> উন্নতি পরে, আগে বাঁচতে দিন
>> মিনা ফারাহ
>> মারিও পুজোর বিশ্ববিখ্যাত উপন্যাস 'গডফাদার' পড়েছি। কিন্তু ফেডারেল
>> রিপাবলিক অব নারায়ণগঞ্জের ঘরে ঘরে সাপের মতো বংশবিস্তার করা গডফাদাররা
>> 'কারলোন' ক্রাইম ফ্যামিলিকেও লজ্জা দেয়। এমনকি এরশাদ শিকদারের মতো ভয়ঙ্কর
>> গডফাদারকেও পেছনে ফেলে দিলো নারায়ণগঞ্জ। এই গডফাদাররা প্রশাসনকে পুঁজি
>> করে প্রতিদিন গড়ে দুই-তিনটা খ


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Re: [mukto-mona] Re:



What do you mean by international community does not want a Hindu (Modi) in power? Weren't other PMs of India Hindus or were they Muslims or Christians masquerading as Hindus? As far as I know Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Bajpai and all other Indian PMs were Hindus. Correct me if I am wrong. 

Are you not talking in the same vein as any other bigotted Hindu or Muslim that there is always an international conspiracy to undermine your views?

There may have been many communal riots in India since the Gujarat incident (incidentally the State name is Gujarat, not Gujrat. Gujrat is a town in Pakistan). No other communal riot, since Gujarat one, was so orchestrated as it had the blessing or covert support of the State Chief Minister, which happened to be Narendra Modi. In any case, world looks at India as a secular state where religion does not play any role in the functioning of the country. The same cannot be said of Bangladesh or any other third world country, although we would like it to be that way. But when India behaves like a rogue state upholding fundamentalist views, people raise hue and cry. 

- AR

From: "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 17 May 2014, 22:01
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re:

 


You are exactly right, Deeldar.

Yes, Modi was in power when Gujrat riot took place, so did Ershad, Khaleda, and Hashina in Bangladesh. I haven't heard anybody calling them Islamic fanatic or fundamentalist as they are calling Modi. 
Also – Modi has been tried in the Supreme Court for his complicity in the Gujrat Riot, and found – not guilty. Have you seen any such trial of Ershad or Khaleda Zia even though there are evidences of their complicities in the communal attacks on Hindus? Not at all. But, people are ready to foam mouths calling Modi fanatic, fundamentalist, communalist, etc., etc. day in and day out. Do you know why?

India is a victim of international Islamic and Christian propaganda that do not want a Hindu in power of India.

International propaganda machines cannot forget Gujrat riot, but they can forget many other communal Riots that happened after Gujrat riot. There has been a  recently riot in Assam, where at least 500 hundred people died. I did not hear anybody calling the Chief Minister of Assam - a fundamentalist or fanatic. I do not know if anybody is taking him to the Supreme Court for complicity in the communal riot. Reason is simple - it does not fit their agenda.

Modi has been a poster child of the international propaganda. His greatest crime is – he is a Hindu. Unfortunately, most Indian Hindus do not know about this this propaganda either; they are too engaged with their Pujas and their liberal/socialist thoughts and policies.       

Jiten Roy


On Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:42 PM, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Mr. Nahar,
I am sorry to disagree with you. India has been good democracy since 1947 and it has gone through many elections and many leaders have come and gone in six decades. Modi might be communal person but we got plenty of those types amongst our Awamis, BNPs and JPs. The examples are just too many to name here. India needed a change from Congress dynastic rule and voters have chosen Modi to lead their country. Indians are more clever than you think. Modi will be molded as according to the Indian constitution and he will do great things for India. If not, Indian voters will boot him out before his term. I understand, you are an Awami devotee but that does not mean you are automatically right. Thank you. Change is great and it is a must medicine in the politics!
-SD


2014-05-17 13:32 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Western internal propaganda make N Modi win Indian election, they spent billions of billions dollar for these, and now India will be 20 years behind by N Modi's leadership.

N Modi is a fanatic, fundamentalist, arrogant, he cannot offer anything good to India.

Very sad news for India .....

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Mrs Fara,
>
> Your article if good and all the references are authentic, but the content or it's truthfulness is part of BNP Jamaat and our captive slave shushils propaganda against Shamim Osman.
>
> SHAMIM OSMAN AND HIS FAMILY IS A TRUE PATRIOT FAMILY IN BANGLADESH.
>
> First of all with due respect shamim Osman is not a god father, he is real politician and a true patriot.
>
> Mr Osman and his family has a very deep and long glorious historical AL background, and their patriotism through our 1971 independence movements are unparalleled and unquestionable,
>
> Now question is why everyone called him god father ;
>
> This is our leftist our shushil and media's long term meditation and practice to destroy AL politics from N Gonj (N Gonj called dandi of Bangladesh) and to do that they have to destroy Ivy (Mr Chunka's daughter) and Osman family, and our shushils fit example mr muzahidul Islam Selim and mahfuzulllah and others utilized Jamaat as conspirator and they used our media as propaganda machine.
>
> Shamim Osman indeed a patriot and please read his family (hira zheel) their house where lots of crisis time of Bangladesh and AL has passed their times to regroup and reorganize AL and muktijuddho.
>
> We should respect that and how they Osman family protect N Gonj during our liberation period was goldenin our history again these British captive slaves our shushil dr KAMAL and sultana KAMAL should be in justice for doing and ruining our country's image internally and externally. So Dr Younus.
>
> Joy Bangla
>
> Bipul KAMAL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 17, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> উন্নতি পরে, আগে বাঁচতে দিন
>> মিনা ফারাহ
>> মারিও পুজোর বিশ্ববিখ্যাত উপন্যাস 'গডফাদার' পড়েছি। কিন্তু ফেডারেল
>> রিপাবলিক অব নারায়ণগঞ্জের ঘরে ঘরে সাপের মতো বংশবিস্তার করা গডফাদাররা
>> 'কারলোন' ক্রাইম ফ্যামিলিকেও লজ্জা দেয়। এমনকি এরশাদ শিকদারের মতো ভয়ঙ্কর
>> গডফাদারকেও পেছনে ফেলে দিলো নারায়ণগঞ্জ। এই গডফাদাররা প্রশাসনকে পুঁজি
>> করে প্রতিদিন গড়ে দুই-তিনটা খুন করে, দিনে কয়েক কোটি টাকার চাঁদাবাজি
>> করে, খুনের মামলা গুম করে, আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী তাদেরকে কুর্নিশ করে...
>> প্রতিদিন ১৮০টা খাম বানিয়ে রকদের হাতে পৌঁছায় নূর হোসেনরা, যেন রকেরা
>> নৌকা নিয়ে শীতল্যায় ভকের কাজটি বারবার করতে পারে। জানি না শীতল্যায়
>> চিরুনি অভিযান চালালে আরো কত লাশ পাওয়া যাবে কিন্তু একটি কথা নিশ্চিত
>> জানি, এখানেই হয়তো হতভাগ্য লুনা আর চৌধুরী আলমের স্ত্রীর বৈধব্য নিশ্চিত
>> হবে। সুতরাং ভারত যদি কয়েক দিনের জন্য শীতল্যার পানি প্রত্যাহার করে বরং
>> তা হতে পারে দৈবিক কারণ, ইলিয়াসের লাশ হয়তো পাওয়া যাবে না, হাড়গোড় পাওয়া
>> গেলে মন্দ কী! রকেরা কী দারুণ ভক আজ! আইন পকেটে না রাখলে যেমন সফল ক্রাইম
>> ফ্যামিলি গড়ে ওঠে না, তেমনই প্রশাসন না চাইলে গডফাদাররাও এক মুহূর্ত
>> টিকতে পারে না। সরকারি ও বেসরকারি, ৫৬ হাজার বর্গমাইলজুড়ে সর্বত্রই হাজার
>> হাজার মাফিয়া ডনরা ৪৩ বছর নিয়ন্ত্রণ করছে ঘুড়ির নাটাই যেন এদের হাত থেকে
>> কখনোই মুক্তি নেই। যেন সব ক'টা নদীর তলদেশ পেট কাটা লাশের বস্তায় ভরে
>> গেলেও কিছুই হবে না। অন্য কোনো সভ্য দেশ হলে বারবার ব্যর্থতার দায়দায়িত্ব
>> নিয়ে পদত্যাগ করতেন সরকারের সব নীতিনির্ধারক।
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Agree, Mr. Roy!. People' mandate needs to be respected when the election was totally free and fair by any criteria. I do not think Modi needs to apologize for being a damn Hindu. The person should be given a chance to serve his country. He is not another Morsi or Khomeni type, who will go for quick constitutional change to make India as a Hindu Rashtra. Neighbor countries should rather solve their own damn minority cleansing problem before accusing Modi for being too communal. The hypocrisy needs to be addresssed.

Modi's trade liberalization is must for India to take it to the next stage of development. He should bring Jagdish Bhagbati to India and run the show.  Amartya Sen would probably stay away from the scenario for his own reasons. Maybe, Mamta should use him to create the Bangla miracle?
-SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:18 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Most cases communal political attacks on religious minorities can happen from the political party that lost, not from the party that won. Why would a winning party destabilize the country; why would they create their own problem in the international political world, unless it is BNP? BNP started attacking religious minorities after winning the election in 2001.
       
Mr. Bipul, BJP was also in power before. How many riots happened all over the India, except Gujrat, after BJP came to power? Did riots stop after BJP lost power and Congress took over the helm in India? 
I believe - religious minorities will be better off with BJP in power in India. Leaders of Islamic groups congratulated Modi for his success. Do you know that - BJP has many Muslim leaders, including Spokesperson of BJP.
So, please don't make hasty provocative meaningless forecast. Just wait and see. 

Jiten Roy
   

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:43 PM, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Brother Bipul,
Please do not guarantee anything. In regards to nationalism BJP is not any different than BNP or Pakistan's Muslim league. Most Bangladeshi minorities hate BNP/Jamat regime but that does mean if BNP/Jamat ever participate and win the election, they will exterminate all the minorities. That is a preposterous idea. Wait and watch Modi cutting the red tape for Indian businesses. Since, everything is seen through the prism of religion, he would not have a smooth path but with his great majority, he will push for the real reforms. Not letting BJP come to the power should not be anybody's business and that would have created real problem in the society. I think Indian Muslims are very educated and will do right thing to work with him. He will put Muslims in his cabinet and that would set the tone.

With the same breath, I would ask our PM to call for an early election and go for true mandate for greater good of the country. I know, you will have problem with that but in long run, that would be big thing for Bangladeshi democracy. We have to start respecting people's mandate. There is no alternative to it. We have to bite the bullet soon or later.
-SD


2014-05-17 17:21 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Dear Shah Bhai,

Your disagreement is respected but we have to see, and you will see the result within 6 months, what N Modi will do with India, I can guarantee you that soon all over the India cross country will have riot and N Modi will be responsible for that, so we need to wait,

Thanks 

Bipul  

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On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Nahar,
I am sorry to disagree with you. India has been good democracy since 1947 and it has gone through many elections and many leaders have come and gone in six decades. Modi might be communal person but we got plenty of those types amongst our Awamis, BNPs and JPs. The examples are just too many to name here. India needed a change from Congress dynastic rule and voters have chosen Modi to lead their country. Indians are more clever than you think. Modi will be molded as according to the Indian constitution and he will do great things for India. If not, Indian voters will boot him out before his term. I understand, you are an Awami devotee but that does not mean you are automatically right. Thank you. Change is great and it is a must medicine in the politics!
-SD


2014-05-17 13:32 GMT-04:00 Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>:
Western internal propaganda make N Modi win Indian election, they spent billions of billions dollar for these, and now India will be 20 years behind by N Modi's leadership.

N Modi is a fanatic, fundamentalist, arrogant, he cannot offer anything good to India.

Very sad news for India .....

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> On May 17, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Bipulnahar <bipulnahar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Mrs Fara,
>
> Your article if good and all the references are authentic, but the content or it's truthfulness is part of BNP Jamaat and our captive slave shushils propaganda against Shamim Osman.
>
> SHAMIM OSMAN AND HIS FAMILY IS A TRUE PATRIOT FAMILY IN BANGLADESH.
>
> First of all with due respect shamim Osman is not a god father, he is real politician and a true patriot.
>
> Mr Osman and his family has a very deep and long glorious historical AL background, and their patriotism through our 1971 independence movements are unparalleled and unquestionable,
>
> Now question is why everyone called him god father ;
>
> This is our leftist our shushil and media's long term meditation and practice to destroy AL politics from N Gonj (N Gonj called dandi of Bangladesh) and to do that they have to destroy Ivy (Mr Chunka's daughter) and Osman family, and our shushils fit example mr muzahidul Islam Selim and mahfuzulllah and others utilized Jamaat as conspirator and they used our media as propaganda machine.
>
> Shamim Osman indeed a patriot and please read his family (hira zheel) their house where lots of crisis time of Bangladesh and AL has passed their times to regroup and reorganize AL and muktijuddho.
>
> We should respect that and how they Osman family protect N Gonj during our liberation period was goldenin our history again these British captive slaves our shushil dr KAMAL and sultana KAMAL should be in justice for doing and ruining our country's image internally and externally. So Dr Younus.
>
> Joy Bangla
>
> Bipul KAMAL
>
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>
>> On May 17, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> উন্নতি পরে, আগে বাঁচতে দিন
>> মিনা ফারাহ
>> মারিও পুজোর বিশ্ববিখ্যাত উপন্যাস 'গডফাদার' পড়েছি। কিন্তু ফেডারেল
>> রিপাবলিক অব নারায়ণগঞ্জের ঘরে ঘরে সাপের মতো বংশবিস্তার করা গডফাদাররা
>> 'কারলোন' ক্রাইম ফ্যামিলিকেও লজ্জা দেয়। এমনকি এরশাদ শিকদারের মতো ভয়ঙ্কর
>> গডফাদারকেও পেছনে ফেলে দিলো নারায়ণগঞ্জ। এই গডফাদাররা প্রশাসনকে পুঁজি
>> করে প্রতিদিন গড়ে দুই-তিনটা খুন করে, দিনে কয়েক কোটি টাকার চাঁদাবাজি
>> করে, খুনের মামলা গুম করে, আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী তাদেরকে কুর্নিশ করে...
>> প্রতিদিন ১৮০টা খাম বানিয়ে রকদের হাতে পৌঁছায় নূর হোসেনরা, যেন রকেরা
>> নৌকা নিয়ে শীতল্যায় ভকের কাজটি বারবার করতে পারে। জানি না শীতল্যায়
>> চিরুনি অভিযান চালালে আরো কত লাশ পাওয়া যাবে কিন্তু একটি কথা নিশ্চিত
>> জানি, এখানেই হয়তো হতভাগ্য লুনা আর চৌধুরী আলমের স্ত্রীর বৈধব্য নিশ্চিত
>> হবে। সুতরাং ভারত যদি কয়েক দিনের জন্য শীতল্যার পানি প্রত্যাহার করে বরং
>> তা হতে পারে দৈবিক কারণ, ইলিয়াসের লাশ হয়তো পাওয়া যাবে না, হাড়গোড় পাওয়া
>> গেলে মন্দ কী! রকেরা কী দারুণ ভক আজ! আইন পকেটে না রাখলে যেমন সফল ক্রাইম
>> ফ্যামিলি গড়ে ওঠে না, তেমনই প্রশাসন না চাইলে গডফাদাররাও এক মুহূর্ত
>> টিকতে পারে না। সরকারি ও বেসরকারি, ৫৬ হাজার বর্গমাইলজুড়ে সর্বত্রই হাজার
>> হাজার মাফিয়া ডনরা ৪৩ বছর নিয়ন্ত্রণ করছে ঘুড়ির নাটাই যেন এদের হাত থেকে
>> কখনোই মুক্তি নেই। যেন সব ক'টা নদীর তলদেশ পেট কাটা লাশের বস্তায় ভরে
>> গেলেও কিছুই হবে না। অন্য কোনো সভ্য দেশ হলে বারবার ব্যর্থতার দায়দায়িত্ব
>> নিয়ে পদত্যাগ করতেন সরকারের সব নীতিনির্ধারক।
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