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[mukto-mona] Changing face of Hinduism?



Shaikh Azizur Rahman

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Is the Face of Hinduism Changing?
 
Ram Puniyani
 
Fali S Nariman recently made a very significant observation on the current political situation in India.
 
The distinguished Constitutional jurist noted:
"Hinduism has traditionally been the most tolerant of all Indian faiths. But, recurrent instances of religious tension, fanned by fanaticism and hate speech, have shown that the Hindu tradition of tolerance is showing signs of strain...my apprehension is that Hinduism is somehow changing its benign face..."
 
There is no doubt that Mr Nariman's observation came in reaction to recent outpourings from some organizations or establishments that subscribe to the ideology of RSS. He is concerned about the aggressive Hindutva ideology of those who seek to turn India into a Hindu nation or asserting that it is indeed a Hindu nation.  
  
Hinduism is a religion, while Hindutva is a political ideology.
 
Recently from some self-styled champions of Hindutva we have witnessed innumerable outbursts of hate speeches on issues ranging from the propaganda of what they call "love jihad" to the ideological assertions that in India 'we are all Hindus'.
 
They have also unleashed an attack on the liberal Hinduism. They are telling those Hindus, who accept Shirdi Sai Baba- a Sufi born in Muslim family, as their God, that they are doing it wrong.
 
In a broad pattern of their attack they target the religious minorities in one way or the other. The basic question we need to address is whether the voices coming from the RSS combine represent actual Hinduism or they are related to the new practice of politics in the name of Hinduism? The question becomes more pertinent when we see group like Al Qaeda or ISIS acting against humanity, in the name of Islam.
 
During the freedom movement, we saw men like Gandhi and Maulana Azad, who, despite being deeply steeped in their religions, came forward and led a political movement, which was secular to the core. During the time we also saw people like Jinnah and Savarkar, who were not religious in the real sense, but they led the politics in the name of Islam and Hinduism, respectively.
 
RSS combine identifies Hinduism mainly with the narrow stream of Hinduism, or rather, Brahmanism. Hinduism is not based on a single book, prophet or a clergy. Polytheism being at its root, the religion has many theologies, practices and a plethora of holy scriptures.
 
Gandhi followed a liberal tradition of Hinduism and while laying the foundation of Indian nationalism during the freedom movement, he did not let religion intrude the politics. In contrast, the Hindu nationalism, which is being propounded by those claiming to be representing Hindus- Hindu Mahasabha, RSS and their offshoots is narrow and intolerant.
 
Since large sections of Hindus, were following Gandhi, the illiberal Hindu Mahasabha-RSS brand of Hinduism, remained on the margins during those days. But, during the last three decades, starting with the Ram Temple agitation, the Hindu nationalist-driven political campaign has thrown up the intolerant propaganda about the 'others' in a blatant way. With the current dispensation where BJP is leading the coalition, the leaders of the ruling Hindu nationalist party and its affiliate organizations are being patronized by the state which has helped them intensify the hate propaganda against the country's religious minorities.
 
Their pronouncements are aimed to intimidate those who do not agree to their version of state and politics. The politics of RSS is not just intimidating the 'others' but also threatening those liberal Hindus .
 
As religion is being pushed deeper into politics the intolerance level in the society is going up. The challenge of our times is to distinguish between the politics in the name of religion and religion per se.
 
Mr Nariman's statement reflects how the veteran jurist is disappointed with the democratic liberal ethos being challenged by the rising assertion of the Hindutva politics led by the RSS combine. 
 
I have long been receiving good number of hate mails routinely. I know that another article on RSS and Hindu nationalism is going to uptick the quota of the hate mails for me.



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Re: [mukto-mona] An investment in ignorance



Totally agree!
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:38 PM, "akbarh1950@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
An investment in ignorance
 
I wonder if life is based on reason why faith is so inimical to reason. Last year a friend of mine and his wife spent 15000 dollars to perform Hajj. Being a highly educated person, honest and upright but declines to accept reason in religious matters. I advised him to invest this money in his native land, for the wellbeing of the poor and underprivileged but he said religiously he was bound to perform Hajj. I was castigated by his Hajj leader for my irreligious advice. I argued that there are millions of people who need help in education, health care and other necessities of life. This money could be of immense help to them but the mullah retorted that Allah will take care.
 
Every year from all the improvised Muslims nations millions of people goes to Saudi Arabia to perform Hajj. They spent millions of dollars in this ritual when millions languish in poverty in their native lands. They are in urgent need of food, education and health care. I ask how religious rituals can ignore the dire needs of the people. Is it not selfishness to follow dogmatic dictates and ignore the human needs? The whole aim of faith should be to serve the suffering humanity with humility rather than selfish rituals.
 
Then comes the slaughtering of the millions of livestock to please Allah. A sea of blood is offered to please a merciful entity. What a contradiction. 
 
 





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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: লতিফ সিদ্দিকীক ে মন্ত্রী সভা থেক ে অব্যাহতি !!!!!



Asylum in a foreign land at ripen age? I do not know. He has been a loose canon for long time.
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Thursday, October 2, 2014 9:52 AM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Sudden outburst of insanity may be a pathological condition of this age. He might have done this intentionally to find an asylum in the West. He sure hasn't read Panchatantram, which says, "Satyam bruat/Priyam bruat// Ma bruat/ Satyam Apriyam//". 

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On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:12 AM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
It was really foolish for him to get into this nonsense knowing fully Bangladeshi Muslim sentiment. 50% people can't even read and write and you start criticizing Haj, prophet and Saudis? What could be more explosive than that? That man's life is in deep danger like Nasreen and Salman Rushdhi. Watch a full mea culpa from this man.
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:07 AM, "jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Bangladesh is a political jungle, where politicians are animals, looking prays. They will grab anything and everything, when they are hungry. Even though this is a non-issue, they will bite it, because they are hungry.

Mr. Latif Siddiqui expressed his views, which many may not be shared by majority. So what? Let's say - he is wrong. He will be a sinner; let him face Allah. Why are you fighting with police, and putting your life on the line for his sin?

It's really sad to see the level of ignorance of some people in Bangladesh; they are ready to come to the street and fight with police; some are ready to give life for something he said, if need be. It's heart-breaking to see that - lives are so cheap in Bangladesh.






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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: লতিফ সিদ্দিকীক ে মন্ত্রী সভা থেক ে অব্যাহতি !!!!!



Yes, he raised a very legitimate question about Hajj and he will be neutralized. You just can't put cart before the horses in a country where dark side still rules..
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Thursday, October 2, 2014 11:23 AM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The chorus of condemnation of Latif Siddiqui (LS) for raising a legitimate question about Hajj is reverberating across the continents. The first victim is obviously the person who ventured to go out of the box. But the main victim is the freedom of speech in Bangladesh. What LS had said is extremely sensible - what is the justification of spending life long savings of a person in performing Hajj which confers no benefit at all, other than the fictitious promise of very good returns in the after-life? If someone thinks it is politically incorrect or insulting to some people, one should say so and counter LS's argument. But what do Bangladeshis do? Like hyenas they go and attack verbally or threaten to attack physically the person who has raised the legitimate question. It is very sad indeed. It is this attitude which is the biggest impediment to democracy in Bangladesh.

- AR  


From: "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: লতিফ সিদ্দিকীক ে মন্ত্রী সভা থেক ে অব্যাহতি !!!!!

 


Are you saying Latif Siddiqui should not have expressed his views, because illiterate ignorant people will not like it? If that's the case – there is no hope for progress; we are stuck in the past.
I remember – we had a civil discourse about Hajj, a year or so back, in this forum. We discussed about this multi-billion dollar business in Saudi Arabia, where many people spend their life-savings.   
The main problem with this discourse is - now politicians are involved. BNP/Jamat wants to score political points against Awami League. They have found one. When politicians get involved in a discourse, you can rest assure – it will end in turmoil.




On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 7:12 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
It was really foolish for him to get into this nonsense knowing fully Bangladeshi Muslim sentiment. 50% people can't even read and write and you start criticizing Haj, prophet and Saudis? What could be more explosive than that? That man's life is in deep danger like Nasreen and Salman Rushdhi. Watch a full mea culpa from this man.
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:07 AM, "jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Bangladesh is a political jungle, where politicians are animals, looking prays. They will grab anything and everything, when they are hungry. Even though this is a non-issue, they will bite it, because they are hungry.

Mr. Latif Siddiqui expressed his views, which many may not be shared by majority. So what? Let's say - he is wrong. He will be a sinner; let him face Allah. Why are you fighting with police, and putting your life on the line for his sin?

It's really sad to see the level of ignorance of some people in Bangladesh; they are ready to come to the street and fight with police; some are ready to give life for something he said, if need be. It's heart-breaking to see that - lives are so cheap in Bangladesh.










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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: লতিফ সিদ্দিকীক ে মন্ত্রী সভা থেক ে অব্যাহতি !!!!!



Yes, I say that with regrets. People are not ready for it and I am not sure whether they will be ever ready.? Can you vertically integrate such open-minded progressiveness in a society where people can kill you for facebook comments? Latif is a brave man, who will be walking as a dead man for a while. What good is that when one voice will be totally silenced until passes away? There is no second  voice to come to his aid in 180 mil people' country. What does it tell you?
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:35 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 


Are you saying Latif Siddiqui should not have expressed his views, because illiterate ignorant people will not like it? If that's the case – there is no hope for progress; we are stuck in the past.
I remember – we had a civil discourse about Hajj, a year or so back, in this forum. We discussed about this multi-billion dollar business in Saudi Arabia, where many people spend their life-savings.   
The main problem with this discourse is - now politicians are involved. BNP/Jamat wants to score political points against Awami League. They have found one. When politicians get involved in a discourse, you can rest assure – it will end in turmoil.




On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 7:12 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
It was really foolish for him to get into this nonsense knowing fully Bangladeshi Muslim sentiment. 50% people can't even read and write and you start criticizing Haj, prophet and Saudis? What could be more explosive than that? That man's life is in deep danger like Nasreen and Salman Rushdhi. Watch a full mea culpa from this man.
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:07 AM, "jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Bangladesh is a political jungle, where politicians are animals, looking prays. They will grab anything and everything, when they are hungry. Even though this is a non-issue, they will bite it, because they are hungry.

Mr. Latif Siddiqui expressed his views, which many may not be shared by majority. So what? Let's say - he is wrong. He will be a sinner; let him face Allah. Why are you fighting with police, and putting your life on the line for his sin?

It's really sad to see the level of ignorance of some people in Bangladesh; they are ready to come to the street and fight with police; some are ready to give life for something he said, if need be. It's heart-breaking to see that - lives are so cheap in Bangladesh.








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[mukto-mona] Victory Durga, Lakshmi, & Saraswati [Vedic Way To Victory !!]



Vedic Way To Victory !!
 Message by Swami Paramarthananda ji
 
I wish you a happy, healthy, peaceful, and prosperous Vijayadashami.


 
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Durga, Lakshmi & Saraswathi
There are two reasons to worship Durga Lakshmi & Saraswathi: 
1.They are the spouses or consorts of the three murthis (Brahma/Vishnu/ Shiva) 
2.These deities represent three very important Shaktis or powers (Resources). 
Durga Devi represents our health especially important as we are growing old. 
Lakshmi Devi represents wealth for when health is lost you will realize the importance of wealth in the form of expensive medical bills. 
Saraswati Devi represents wisdom or knowledge.
These three basic resources are required by every one of us: health, wealth, and knowledge.
When we have them we don't know their value and take them for granted. Only when we are deprived of any one of them we discover the value of that particular resource. Therefore all the three are equally important. 
When we are sick we think that health is most important. In poverty we feel that wealth is the most important. So which of the three is deprived we conclude that is most vital for living. Actually there is no pecking order and if we give weightage each would score 33.33%! 
Health, wealth, and knowledge are necessary for survival, for success in our ventures, and life itself. Hence Sastras recommend that we remember these three resources every day.
Navarathri
  1. In our tradition we talk of two navaratris – one is called Vasanta (Spring) Navaratri and another is Sarada (Autumn) Navaratri. 
  2. During navaratri we exclusively worship Durga for three days, Lakshmi for three days, and Saraswati for three days. We invoke the grace of these three shaktis then what follows? The tenth day is called "Vijayadasami" or victory. 
  3. The Vedic way of victory is Shakti Samyam – all the three resources must be there and they must be in balance. Otherwise life will be a failure. Therefore let us start the New Year by invoking these deities and every day too.
  4. The scriptures say that we must ask for two types of favours from each deity – 
  1. Two types of health 
  2. Two types of wealth
  3. Two types of knowledge. 
What are the two types of health we must pray from Durga Devi? 

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  1. One is the physical health which is extremely important and second is the mental health. Our modern lifestyle is such that we are neglecting Durga Devi. All the magazines talk of "lifestyle diseases". Our very lifestyle is the cause of diseases. These are due to improper lifestyle – our eating habits are wrong, sleeping habits are wrong, and working habits are wrong. They reveal that we are disrespecting Durga Devi. 
  2. One morning prayers states: In Brahma Muhuratham one must not sleep. Sleeping in this time will deplete one's punyam and produce pappam. For this sin one must do praichittam. Even before New Year eve people attend all night parties, drink all kinds of things, and don't even see the New Year sunrise (lifestyle disease). Even there is an English proverb that talks about the virtues of rising early: Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy. 
  3. When you rise early you get the blessings of Durga, Lakshmi, and Saraswati. We are violating all health habits (eating, sleeping, and working habits are wrong because we don't enjoy our work). 
  4. There is too much pressure and stress. Work place has become a field of war due to increased competition. I have to outperform all my competitors; there is pressure and lot of aggression. Working places resemble war zones and when we come home it is like Ashoka coming from a Kalinga war. Therefore mental stress is a major problem of modern day living. 
  5. Continuous stress reduces the immunity of a person and that invites all kinds of diseases. A person may be chronologically 40 years but ravaged by constant stress the body ages to 60. 
  6. A man squanders his health initially working for wealth. Then he squanders his earned wealth in search of health! And ultimately loses both. 
  7. In Sanskrit there is a humourous verse – O doctor, my namaskarams to you for you are the elder brother of Yama dharmaraja. Why elder? Yama only takes life while the doctor takes both the life and money and say," Operation was successful but the patient died". 
  8. So Durga Devi is so important and one must pray every day to HER for physical as well as mental health.
What are the two types of wealth we must pray from Lakshmi Devi? 

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  1. One is the outer wealth in the form of money, gold, shares, real estate etc and the other is contentment. In the Vedic jargon wealth is reduced to "gold and land" to signify every kind of wealth. 
  2. Swami Dayananda says that we call it real estate for we ourselves have a doubt. Like ever silver is never silver!!! We have to invoke Lakshmi Devi for without external wealth we cannot conduct life. We respect money without which survival is not possible. Even a sanyasi requires wealth in the form of food, clothing, and shelter. 
  3. Vedas state that we should not stop with the desire for external wealth; internal wealth is just as important – inner wealth in the form of contentment or tripti. If Tripti or contentment is not there we will face several problems. Then desire for external wealth will not be balanced for without contentment desires will escalate. Desires by themselves are harmless but unknowingly "Kama" will be converted into Lobah or Greed. Kama (desire for wealth) is one of the four purusharthas but it needs to be balanced with contentment.
  4. Modern lifestyle provides a conducive environment for GREED. Every manufacturer is promoting greed for his products through advertising. There is an advertisement you might have seen. 
  5. A child is asking mom that for pongal it wants a I-pad or Laptop and not some boring toys. The media drives this acquisition and greed in society. If we are not careful we will fall under the trap of greed.
  6. The first consequence of greed is running after Lakshmi Devi and ignore the other two deities which disturbs the "shakti or resource balance". Instead of "Shakti Samyam" Lakshmi will become predominant and unbalanced life will have disastrous consequences. 
  7. Greed will pressurize the mind to become more and more aggressive, and more violent. The value of Ahimsa is thrown to the winds. I shout at everybody as they don't keep up with me. I work with constant pressure and aggression. Greed will also force a person to compromise with dharmic values too like Indian politicians. 
  8. First the "shakti imbalance" and the second "the loss of dharma" will obstruct success in our life especially spiritual success. Thirdly when there is greed, there is competition and cut throat philosophy. 
  9. Some will become more and more rich while most would become poor. There will be few "haves" and many "have nots" and the widening disparity will increase the crime rate. We can never live in contentment for fear of burglary, chain snatching, or even murder. The headline "Old couple murdered" is getting regular and our children are not around. 
  10. Greed creates a lot of stress. The world has enough for human need but world does not have enough for human greed. If humanity is in the grip of greed then the natural resources would be exploited more. We are abusing nature and it is already turning violent on us. These environmental/ecological imbalances will affect the next generations and they will not have enough even for an ordinary life. 
  11. Greed causes problems both at the micro and macro level because of individual greed, family greed, corporate greed, national greed. In fact recession is caused from corporate greed. They are promoting more and more loans and credit cards (acquire more and greed is promoted!!!). In our parent's generation the word loan was fraught with shame while now we wear it as a crown (bhushanam)! 
  12. We are so caught up with external wealth that we forget the internal wealth of contentment (tripti). Veda says that whatever you earn legitimately one must be contented without comparing with neighbours or falling for New Year discount sales! Therefore we must pray to Lakshmi Devi to extend wealth to include contentment too.
  13. We don't appreciate the value of contentment for we wrongly think that our level of enjoyment would come down. This is a serious misconception and delusion born out of greed. 
  14. Our Sastra take great pains to remove this misconception: If external wealth is the source of joy then internal wealth of contentment is as much a source of joy if not greater. 
  15. In Traittreya Upanishad this important message is given graphically. They have divided external wealth into ten levels. 
  16. Let us imagine a man acquiring more wealth and goes from level 1 to level 2. Let us take another wise man who progresses in contentment levels from level 1 to level 2 (contentment is also divided into ten levels parallelly) . 
  17. Traittreya Upanishad states the second person who progresses on the contentment scale has hundred times more joy than the person who finds happiness in material acquisition. 
  18. Let's say at level -10 a Ambani or Bill Gates and take a wise man sitting under a tree without bank balance, without laptop, without I-pad, without television, without home theatre, without home itself. He's joy is hundred times more than the richest man on earth. 
  19. So when you pray for Lakshmi Devi every day include external wealth and also internal wealth.
What are the two types of knowledge we must pray from Saraswati Devi? 
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Then there is another important deity, "Saraswati". From Saraswati Devi we have to seek two types of knowledge. 
One knowledge is material knowledge given by material sciences; science and technology being developed in thousands of laboratories all over the world. They are trying to corner the external world with better set-up; better houses, better gadgets and everything better and better. Conquering the external world and manipulating the set-up which is called Apara Vidya
The Para Vidya is spiritual sciences represented by our scriptures which are designed to change our internal mindset.
  1. Material sciences are used to adjust the external set-up to suit our likes and dislikes. While spiritual knowledge is to change our mindset. This is extremely important for however advanced material sciences maybe we can never be totally in control of the external set-up. 
  2. Go to Pondicherry and see the havoc played by the cyclones! The external set-up is uncontrollable, unpredictable, and unsustainable and we will have to face unfavourable professional situations, we will have to face unfavourable family situations, unfavourable personal situations according to our karma. We have to face unfavourable set-up either temporary or face them lifelong. 
  3. The doctor will say, "You will have to live with it" for there are many genetic diseases for which there are no remedies. In such a situation material sciences will throw their hands in despair. When we cannot adjust the set-up it has become a choiceless situation then you will have to adjust the mind. Our mindset and perspectives must be adjusted such that it cushioned and protected from the external unfavourable situations. 
  4. Like wearing a cooling glass in hot sun that protects the eyes but when things cannot be changed externally we must know how to adjust the mind. That is why our Sastra make a difference between spiritual ignorance and spiritual knowledge.
  5. An ignorant mind is like a convex lens that magnifies any external unfavourable situation. The doctor only says there should be an investigation and the mind begins to dread the worst. 
  6. The mind is always is insecure, always in panic and exaggerates every little difficulty. Spiritual ignorance exaggerates every choiceless situation. In contrast spiritual knowledge is one that makes a person face even the most unfavourable situation with an appropriate attitude.
  7.  Lord Krishna in the Gita presents two techniques to deal with any problem: Karma yoga and Jnana yoga. 
  8. Material sciences teach how to adjust the world while spiritual sciences alone will tell us how to adjust the mind. Mental adjustments are necessary when we are facing choiceless situations. There are certain situations that have no remedy and at that time you need spiritual knowledge to cope with your situation. Therefore pray to Sarawati for both types of knowledge.
So on this auspicious new year let us invoke the grace of Durga, Lakshmi, and Saraswati for two types of health, physical and mental; two types of wealth, physical and contentment; two types of knowledge, material sciences and spiritual knowledge. 
Let this prayer be on behalf of ourselves, our families and the entire world. 

 
Thanks & Regards,


Sudhir Srinivasan
B.Arch, MSc.CPM, Dip.ID, Dip.CAD, Dip.PM, Dip.LD
| Architect


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