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Friday, October 10, 2014

[mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'মালালার নোবেল পুরস্কার বিজয় এবং আমাদের ফেসবুকীয় উন্নাসিকতা'

মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ has posted a new item,
'মালালার নোবেল পুরস্কার বিজয়
এবং আমাদের ফেসবুকীয়
উন্নাসিকতা'

'সারাদিন নর্দমা ঘাটা যার
স্বভাব, ফুলের গন্ধ তার নাকে
যায় না'। গান্ধী কি বলেছিলেন
কথাগুলো? যেই বলুন, মালালা
প্রসঙ্গে বাঙালির ফেসবুকিয়
বুদ্ধিজীবীতার নমুনা দেখে
আমার নিরেট মাথায় কেন যেন এ
কথাগুলোই বারে বারে ঘুরে ফিরে
উঠে আসছে।

মালালা ইউসুফজাইয়ের নোবেল
শান্তি পুরস্কার (২০১৪) বিজয়ের
খবর পত্রিকায় আসার পর থেকেই
ফেসবুক সহ সামাজিক যোগাযোগ
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[mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'পুরুষের ভবিষ্যত-২'

মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ has posted a new item,
'পুরুষের ভবিষ্যত-২'

সুতরাং খুব পরিস্কার চিন্তা
করলে-একজন মেয়ের জীবনে পুরুষ
নির্ভরতা কমতে শুরু করেছে বিংশ
শতাব্দি থেকেই। একবিংশ
শতাব্দির শেষে একজন মেয়ের
জীবনে পুরুষ হবে "অপশনাল"।
দরকার হবেই না।

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Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] 'An Open Letter to Moderate Muslims written by Ali A Rizvi'

The notion of moderate Muslim is a misconception. A Muslim is a Muslim he/she cant be moderate or extremist. Islam is a clearly articulated faith with draconian limitations. As a Muslim cant be a secularist because a Muslim cant be a neutral person and by doing so one becomes a non Muslim. If a Muslim does not believe in the Five Pillars of Islam his/her faith falters. The entire Muslim umma is responsible for the atrocities those are being committed in the name of Islam. Is there a general movement against these extremists? No. What does this mean? There is a deliberate unwillingness to condemn the extremists. Muslims are detested, castigated and condemned by every non Muslim but Muslims does not care about this shame. For dead man they comes in millions to save his so called honour but for the living? Who cares.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner charbak_bd@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner has posted a new item, 'An Open Letter to Moderate
Muslims written by Ali A Rizvi'

A Pakistani-Canadian writer and activist, Ali A Rizvi, wrote this 'Open Letter'
to all moderate Muslims in the Huffington Post. It is worth reading and highly
illuminating. The link is given first, followed by the full text.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/an-open-letter-to-moderat_b_5930764.html

An Open Letter to Moderate Muslims
Posted: 10/06/2014 3:17 pm EDT Updated: 10/07/2014 8:59 pm EDT MOSQUE
SILHOUETTE

I'm [...]

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[mukto-mona] RE: [BDPANA] Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam

Mr. Mirza,

Thanks for your response.

I am not sure why you are portraying negativity about the religion Islam in this forum. This is not a platform to confute your accusation.

All I can suggest you can read a book called "Muhammad: A Prophet for Our Time by Karen Armstrong – a modern historian who went to St Anne's College, Oxford, University of Oxford.

You can read another good book called "Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources" by Martin Lings.

Sincerely,

S Haque

Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:02:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [BDPANA] Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
From: skmirza.mirza@gmail.com
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Mr. Syed Haque,

Your few Koranic verses you brought here are early Makkan verses when PM had only 75 followers by his heroic campaign of establishing Islam by long 13 years of struggle in Makka. At that time PM was very weak in front of tens of thousands of mighty Quresh. In addition, one of them was verse stolen from Old testament and it was meant for Jews (Children of Isreal) and not for Muslims.

But, below are some Medina verses when PM had thousands of vicious killer jihadists with him (just like ISIS jihadists) plundering and killing non-muslims and Jews in Medina for ten long years.

Here are some samples: Quranic verses that dictate beheading Kaffirs:

The following verses are from the CORE of the Holy Koran.

8:12- "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off."

47:4- "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives": thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens."

9:123: "Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you."

2:191- "Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out."

5: 45-- "We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Toth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal."

2:193- "Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah"

9:29- "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Zizziya tax) by hand, being inferior."

8:17—It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God's….." (Allah is a real merciful indeed!)

5:33-"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution (by beheading), or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;"

These are enough today. I can bring more than 200 similar verses from the Holy Koran. How about That? By the way, I did not make these verses myself. These are all from Allah (SWT). You can check their authenticity, please! Please let me know if they are of any fabrications by anybody!

Regards,

SKM

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Syed Haque <syedhaque@hotmail.com> wrote:

What a baseless propaganda which goes against the core of the Islamic belief! This is nothing but a fabrication.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things." (2:256) or "to you be your way, and to me mine."(109:6) or"those who avoid the greater crimes and shameful deeds, and, when they are angry even then forgive." (42:37)

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.

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From: BDPANA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 21:55:03 -0400
Subject: [BDPANA] Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam

The devil.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

Who let this deranged rabis-ridden mutt, Kamran Taliban Mirza, out of his pen?

Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 19:41:40 -0400
Subject: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
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To all Islamists living in the western comfort:

Dear all believres (Mumin Musalman),

Question: "was the Prophet Muhammad also behaved just like ISIS Jihadists in Syria?"

Answers: Yes, Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam. That is why pukka Muslims (ISIS gong) even today obey the holy order of PM.

I am sure like majority sons of muslims (me too) you all also read and heard about Prophet Muhammad (PM) all the goodies and nothing but the goodies. We had been brain-washed (Mogoz Dhulai) by Mullahs that PM was like an Angel--never lied, never committed any sin a pure human being to emulate by the entire mankind etc, etc. These are pure BS, and unadulterated lies and deception. This is called Islamic taqqiyya or Islamic deception invented by Prophet of Islam himself. I also believed these good talks but after reading PM's extensive biographies, Koran and hadiths now I am totally 180 degree opposite to that early belief system about PM and Islam.

Attached are two articles. Please read them and find the truth. Compare the Koran and read the Hadiths related to PM. Please remember, those mullahs who brainwashed us in our childhood never showed anything from Koran, hadiths, or from any of the ancient Biographies or from real early Islamic history at all, to substantiate their claim. They only did some lip-services.

^{Hadith of killing Asma bin Marwan by the order of Prophet Muhammad: Can you imagine? A prophet of peace can ask to assassin those leaders who just disagreed with him or criticized him? Please read the attachment and some samples below:}

^{Siraat-e-Rasul by Ibn Ishaq Page-676: Assassination of Jewish lady Asma bint Marwan who was the mather of 5 infants.}

She was of B. Umayya b. Zayd. When Abu 'Afak had been killed she displayed disaffection. 'Abdullah b. al-Harith b. al-Fudayl from his father said that she was married to a man of B. Khatma called Yazid b. Zayd. Blaming Islam and its followers she said : I despise B. 3$alik and al-Nabit And 'Auf and B. al-Khazraj. She wrote a poetry despising Prophet Muhammad. When the apostle heard what she has said he said, 'Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?' 'Umayr b. ^fAdiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. Umayr the assassin pierced her chest (heart) with his sword while she was asleep (middle of the night, still when one of her baby was sucking her breast for milk.).

In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he said, 'You have helped God and His apostle, O 'UmayrP When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said, 'Two goats won't butt their heads about her,' so 'Umayr went back to his people.
Now there was a great commotion among B. Khatma that day about the affair of Bint Marwan. She had five sons, and when 'Umayr went to them from the apostle he said, 'I have killed Bint Marwan, O sons of Khatma. Withstand me if you can; don't keep me waiting'² That was the first day that Islam became powerful among B. Khatma; before that those who were Muslims concealed the fact. The first of them to accept Islam was 'Umayr b. ^eAdiy who was called 'the Reader', and 'Abdullah b. Aus and Khuzayma b. Thabit. The day after Bint Marwan was killed the men of B. Khatma became Muslims because they saw the power of Islam. [This is the glaring example how Islam was spread in Arabia very peacefully indeed.]

Another Sahih hadiths PM asked for assassination of his Jewish rival: Here is the quote and the context from Bukhari vol.3 book 45 ch.3 no.687 p.415.
(687) Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah Allah's Apostle said, 'Who would kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf as he has harmed Allah and His Apostle? Muhammad bin Maslama (got up and) said, 'I will kill him.' So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, 'I want a loan of one or two Wasqs of foodgrains.'" After dickering over what to hold as mortgage, they agreed that Muhammad bin Maslama would mortgage his weapons. So he promised him that he would come with his weapons next time." Bukhari vol.3 book 45 ch.3 no.687 p.415 (That is all this passage says.)
"Narrated Jabir : The Prophet said, 'Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew).' Muhammad bin Maslama replied, 'Do you like me to kill him?' The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, 'Then allow me to say what I like.' [i.e. to lie]. The Prophet replied 'I do (i.e. allow you).'" Bukhari vol.4 book 52 ch.159 no.271 p.168
Please read the attached file for much more assassination story about PM's hidden agenda to eliminate his rivals. This is hardly any Prophetic job by normal stander. Don't you think so???? Please do not miss to read the articles attached having all the evidences from Koran and Hadiths.
That's all today. Much more will be coming next. Thanks.

Regards,

Syed K Mirza

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