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Re: [mukto-mona] listen please



What is the purpose of posting this very old video?
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Subject: [mukto-mona] listen please

 


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[mukto-mona] Fwd: Are The Hindu's of Bangladesh on the path of annihilation?



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Nov 9, Dhaka: The Hindu community in Bangladesh is slowly but irreversibly moving towards extinction in Bangladesh and it&amp;#39;s not me saying it, this is the inevitable truth that has been reflected by the 2011 Bangladesh Census. It is a slow and silent death of a community which has no strong global forum to raise voice against the threat to their existence. Whatever may be the reasons, the fact remains, highlighted by hard figures that...


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Re: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion



I think most of the questions by Mr. Deeldar here are either irrelevant or corrupted with statements that are wrong.

'Are Muslims totally innocent ....?' As far as the murder of Mr. Akhlaq and the atrocities against his family are concerned, the talk should be about the Hindu barbarians, not about Muslims.

'Are Muslims totally secular as Muslim think ....?' First, what community is totally secular? Second, do most Muslims really think that they are secular?

Does it justify any civilized country be be religious fanatic because Muslim-majority countries are? My answer is, NO. What the civilized countries need to do is to stay civilized, and push for the barbarians to get civilized.

'Eventually a cow would be slaughtered right in front of a Hindu house to test the Indian secularism.' Really, Mr. Deeldar? Is any civilized country in the world allowing slaughtering of any animal on city streets or in neighborhoods in front of any kind of people's home? The answer is, NO. Surely India's secularism test should not involve cow slaughtering in front of Hindu houses. In fact, Bangladesh needs to make the progress of slaughtering cows and other animals only in designated slaughterhouses and away from public views.

I believe I have addressed most of Dr. Roy's points as well.

Sukhamaya Bain

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On Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:07 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The question is why the trouble has started in India now? Are Muslims totally innocents as Muslims say? Are Muslims totally secular as Muslims think or feel? I do see a problem there with duplicity in the light of what has been happening locally and globally. Most Muslim majority countries have no respect or regard for minority rights while Muslims want West and other infidel countries to be perfect in secularism and treat Muslims fairly? Even Muslims can't stand Muslims and Muslims fleeing from Muslim countries for better life in infidel countries. I am troubled with such dichotomy.
Eventually a cow would be slaughtered right in front of a Hindu house to test the Indian secularism. Why that should be a problem for the Hindus? The problem is not a black and white as people think.  
 






On Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:05 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India?"
Politicians will not go against a popular demand; it's a suicidal act for them.
It will be naïve to say that ban on cow-slaughter is just against banning beef-eating. It could be supported if it was done just for the right to eat beef alone, but the issue has religious sentiment to it also. Indian liberal intellectuals are lining up to return their awards over it is a publicity stunt.
Remember the proverb – "বসতে দিলে খেতে চায়; খেত দিলে শুতে ছায়, ইত্যাদি, ইত্যাদি,"
Let's say you legalize cow slaughter. What will happen when Muslims start slaughtering thousands of cows for the EID celebration, while Hindus, in the next door, start worshiping cows for Jonmastomi celebration?
It's not as simple as many liberals may make it to be.
Jiten Roy

 
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Subject: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion

 
My following comments on the subject article in bdnews24.com are 'awaiting moderation' since the morning of November 6, 2015 (Bangladesh Time):

"Another mumbo jumbo write-up. What a gibberish, "Writers, poets, artists and scientists are expressing their dissent like never before by returning their awards. But had there been intolerance their views and acts would have certainly been muzzled/ tried to be muzzled."! How would you not tolerate someone giving up his/her award, Mr. Kapoor? How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India? Lynch them like what was done to Mohammad Akhlaq in Uttar Pradesh? The reality of the matter is that India, even under the secularism-flashing political parties, has been intolerant of beef eating. The reality is that in almost 90% of the land area of India, slaughtering cow and eating beef are prohibited by law. You can read more on the subject by clicking the link below.


India surely needs to improve a lot on not imposing illogical majority and mob wishes on its citizens."










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Re: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh sentences 6 to death in torture deaths of 2 boys



Apples vs oranges? Votes vs no votes? An unfortunate clever is being played by the ruling party?



On Monday, November 9, 2015 6:40 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I am glad that this particular verdict came so quickly, but why others, such as the murderers of the of those so called bloggers, are taking such a long time even when culprits under the police custody?

 
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Subject: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh sentences 6 to death in torture deaths of 2 boys

 

   
Bangladesh sentences 6 to death in torture deaths of 2 boys
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    DHAKA, Bangladesh (AP) — Courts in Bangladesh sentenced six people to death Sunday for torturing and killing two young boys earlier this year.

    Samiul Islam Rajon, 13, died in July after he was brutally beaten. A 28-minute video of Rajon screaming for help as he was being beaten was posted online and went viral, shocking a nation long inured to violence against children.

    In the second incident, Rakib Hawlader, 12, died in August after his former employer at a car repair shop used a nozzle to pump air into his rectum and filled his body with air in retaliation for quitting his job.
    Judge Akbar Hossain Mridha found the main suspect in Rajon's death, Kamrul Islam, and three others guilty of fatally torturing the boy and sentenced all four to death. Four others involved in the beating death were sentenced to prison terms ranging from a year to life.

    In the video of Rajon's beating, recorded with a cellphone camera, the boy is heard screaming in pain and pleading with his attackers: "Don't beat me, please, I will die, I will die." The attackers laughed at the boy when he asked for water.

    Like many poor children in Bangladesh, Rajon was forced to leave school to work to help his family, in his case selling vegetables.

    The main suspect fled to Saudi Arabia but was detained there and deported last month through Interpol to face trial.

    Separately on Sunday, Judge Dilruba Sultana said that the owner of the car repair shop and an employee had tortured Hawlader, who later died in a hospital. Both were sentenced to death.
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    Re: [mukto-mona] Crocodile tears won't stop the killings



    Bangladesh is already a lost cause. Nothing will make these clowns civil and just unless they get hacked  with the very same sharper weapons.




    On Monday, November 9, 2015 6:34 PM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
    M. Rahman: "Second, it is important to remind ourselves that jihadist Islamists do not grow out of thin air. They emerge from our society."

    This is exactly what I see. People who are helping the proliferation of mosques and madrasas in Bangladesh are like those who recruited young people in forces like razakar during the liberation of Bangladesh. The two caught young men that murdered Washiqur Rahman Babu did it because of their religious brainwash, not because of any potential financial or political gain for themselves.

    (I sent the above comments to the Daily Star; but they have not published it.)

    Let me add that the murder's did not do it for any worldly gain for their huzur (preacher) either.

    SuBain

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    On Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:28 AM, "'mahfuzur@aol.com' mahfuzur@aol.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
                   Click on the following link for some further thoughts on what is now a nauseating subject.
     
    Mahfuzur Rahman

     






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    [mukto-mona] Re: আসমা কিবরিয়া আর নেই



    When a society becomes totally oblivious to women' tears and sorrow, we can easily predict tomorrow's stormy weather. Yes, it would be darker,windy and joyless. The curse is in the works.   

    2015-11-09 16:41 GMT-05:00 Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>:

    বিশিষ্ট চিত্রশিল্পী আসমা কিবরিয়া আর নেই। তাঁর শান্তি কামনা করি।

    তাঁর কথা মনে হলেই মনটা হু হু করে ওঠে। প্রাক্তন অর্থমন্ত্রী শাহ এম এস কিবরিয়া'কে হবিগঞ্জে গ্রেনেড হামলায় নৃশংসভাবে হত্যা করা হলে নীল শাড়ি পরে দিনের পর দিন ঢাকার পথে পথে সাথীদের নিয়ে মানব-বন্ধন করে সেই হত্যার সুষ্ঠু বিচার চেয়ে তিনি আন্দোলন করেছিলেন। এরকম কয়েকটা মানব-বন্ধনে আমিও যোগ দিয়েছিলাম। কী বিষণ্ণ ও অসহায় লাগতো তাঁর চেহারার দিকে তাকিয়ে। সে-সব দৃশ্য আজও ভুলতে পারি না। দেশের এত বড় মাপের একটা মানুষের প্রকাশ্যে জনসভায় হত্যার বিচার চাইতে কী সংগ্রামই না তাকে করতে হয়েছিল।
    আজ তিনি চলে গেলেন।

    এর মাঝে সংঘাত ও অশান্তির বলী হয়েছেন কত মেধাবী ও সাহসী- কত সাধারন, নিরীহ ও নিরস্ত্র মানুষ।

    মাঝে মাঝে তাই বিষণ্ণ হয়ে পড়ি এই ভেবে যে, দেশে সত্যিকার আইনের শাসন প্রতিষ্ঠার জন্য আমাদের প্রতীক্ষার প্রহর যেন আর শেষ হতে চায় না।




    From: bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
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    Subject: Re: আসমা কিবরিয়া আর নেই
     
    Sorry to hear this terrible news. Two very brave people that Bangladesh would be dearly missed.

    2015-11-09 0:44 GMT-05:00 NewEngland Awami League <neawamileague@gmail.com>:
    আসমা কিবরিয়া আর নেই
    আসমা কিবরিয়া আর নেই
    সাবেক অর্থমন্ত্রী শাহ এ এম এস কিবরিয়ার স্ত্রী বিশিষ্ট চিত্রশিল্পী আসমা কিবরিয়া আর নেই। সোমবার সকাল ৯টা ১০ মিনিটে রাজধানীর একটি হাসপাতালে হৃদযন্ত্রের ক্রিয়া বন্ধ হয়ে তিনি মৃত্যুবরণ করেন (ইন্নালিল্লাহি ওয়া ইন্না ইলাইহি রাজিউন)। মৃত্যুকালে তার বয়স হয়েছিল ৭৮ বছর।
    কিবরিয়া পরিবারের পক্ষ থেকে শাহ এ এম এস কিবরিয়া ও আসমা কিবরিয়া ছেলে ড. রেজা কিবরিয়া সবার কাছে মায়ের আত্মার মগাফেরাত কামনার জন্য দেশবাসীর কাছে দোয়া ছেয়েছেন।

    ওসমান গণি 
    সভাপতি 
    সুহাস বড়ুয়া 
    সাধারন সম্পাদক 
    নিউ ইংল্যান্ড আওয়ামী লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র।




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