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Tuesday, October 4, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] Inside the mind of an ‘honour’ killer: How Rajhu killed his sister



Very sad story!
When a guy from a family abducts a non-Muslim girl and forcefully marry her, the family comes forward to help the guy. That must be considered as enhancement of family honor.
What can be said about these ignorant people, who possess no ability to judge right from wrong on their own? They know whatever Mullahs tell them in the Mosque. Hundreds of innocent girls get killed every year in Pakistan in the name of honor killings. Pakistan has been a strange country in the world with people doing strange things. Why is that?
Jiten Roy


From: "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 9:46 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Inside the mind of an 'honour' killer: How Rajhu killed his sister

 
"They would say: 'Can't you do anything? What is the matter with you? You are not a man.'"

Pakistanis love to move to Christian countries for better life and money but they have no love for a christian man marrying a Muslim girl. Suddenly the honor is hurt and the girl needs to be killed?

"In Pakistan, Christians make up barely 5 percent of the population and in recent years have come under increasing attack by militants. Yet Pakistan's minorities, including Christians, are protected in the country's constitution." What a Joke!

http://www.dawn.com/news/1287739/inside-the-mind-of-an-honour-killer-how-rajhu-killed-his-sister






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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Forum Discipline // PFC-Friends



People who have been complaining are no saints. Once, people started giving back with overwhelming force and rhetoric, all hell has broken loose. These actors can attack, lie and demean anybody's  integrity and religious or no-religious indoctrination. And, that is perfectly legit because they belong to some special God loving group? If moderators want to be fair, he/she should not muzzle one group but let others to post whatever they please. That would be called favoritism. People who are complaining, should show the way what is good and what is not? Writing nothing but complaining about the content is not the way. If subject Islam is a taboo and beyond anybody's question, then the same rule should be applied to Hindu, Buddhists, Christianity, Judaism and others too. Alternatively, the forum should be declared as an Islamic property and ban others, who do not conform to the religious rule. I will have no problem with such new decree. I am on many forums including Mukto-mona, Bangladesh-progressives, Disqus, Tweeter and many others. I spar with thousands people everyday. I am a free spirit and I have no intention to stick around where democracy would not be respected. Thank you.  

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:07 AM, mahbubkhan@ieee.org <mahbubkhan35@hotmail.com> wrote:

In this open and very active forum of this magnitude and diversity where the participants are located worldwide including the USA, Bangladesh, Canada, Australia, Asia, Europe etc, with many very thoughtful and talented people in this PFC-Friends Forum, it is easier if we focus on the messages rather than the messangers. There have been requests not to make any personal attacks or to use any vulger words or phrases in this discussion forum. There have also been requests not to attack the religion of Islam in particular and other religions in general, and that is because it appears to be a cheap way to try to win an argument or to show the wisdom. There are many other good topics that can be discussed by thoughtful and talented people with sound logic but without vulgarity. It is highly expected that the respected membership of this very active global forum will maintain mutual respect and civility while discussion continues through sound logic on many good topics. With best regards.


From: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Salim Rashid <srashid17@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 3:00 AM
To: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com
Cc: aishams567@yahoo.com; aislam65@hotmail.com; mbimunshi@gmail.com; AbidBahar PostCard; Muazzam Kazi; Capt Hossain; Sameer Syed; S Akhter; Zoglul Zoglul; Mohammad Gani; rashed Anam; Azad Khan; Isha Khan; Jalal Uddin Khan; Mohamed Nazir
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} the value of discourse
 
Much as I enjoy some of the postings and feel provoked by others, I cannot continue to belong to it as long as one of the most prolific contributors is pseudonymous.
My request to the moderator: either assure me that you know the identity of all contributors and that some individuals have good reason to be 'unknown', or please remove me from this list.
Thanks and Khuda hafiz
Salim

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:40 AM, 'javed helali' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Well said. That's how it should be.
 
Javed Helali
512-669-5248


From: Salim Rashid <srashid17@gmail.com>
To: "pfc-friends@googlegroups.com" <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "aishams567@yahoo.com" <aishams567@yahoo.com>; "aislam65@hotmail.com" <aislam65@hotmail.com>; "mbimunshi@gmail.com" <mbimunshi@gmail.com>; AbidBahar PostCard <abahar.canada@gmail.com>; Muazzam Kazi <kazi4986@yahoo.com>; Capt Hossain <atlanticmarinecanada@gmail.com>; Sameer Syed <amsmel@aol.com>; S Akhter <sakhter1015@gmail.com>; Zoglul Zoglul <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>; Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>; rashed Anam <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>; Azad Khan <azadcop@yahoo.com>; Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>; Jalal Uddin Khan <jukhan@gmail.com>; Mohamed Nazir <nazir0101@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:27 PM
Subject: {PFC-Friends} the value of discourse

The recent, specific, claims that someone or some people are sending messages under pseudonyms is disturbing. The language has sometimes become insulting and vulgar, despite several requests to the contrary. This prevents discourse, which is the main value of such a forum. I wish I knew how to stop the exchange at sarcasm and the occasional barb.
However, if someone really fears retaliation for participating in this forum, perhaps they should leave? and if they stay, why use a false name? anyone who posts has to provide the moderator with a definite identity.
Can the moderator please take a stand, one way or another?



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