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Monday, May 29, 2017

[mukto-mona] Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging ‘Sikkim Saga’ in Bangladesh?



Bunch of gibberish rants from a crazy man without any clear thoughts or focal points as far as I can see. Now, with your own words, you said, if only Muslims could convert Madrassas to good English medium schools, Muslims will surpass Indian Hindus in two generations. Let me hammer you again on that same point. Obviously, you have confessed by your own accord that you belong to a community which has been lagging behind by two human generations. And, that would be conservatively 40-50 years or so. That is a long time dear. So, with your golden Bedouin toilets with golden turd in your head, you do lag behind educationally and intellectually to damn Indian Hindus. These are your own subconscious words. I did not force you to confess? Obviously, these arguments and points are beyond your thinking and conceptual capacity.  

"Even today, if Indian Muslims turn their Madrassas and Urdu medium schools into high quality English Medium schools -- they will far supercede all Indian Hindus in less than two generations..." M. Shoaib.


Next point:
Monotheists are superior intellectuals by what criteria? How many Mohammeds should we consider as true intellectuals of this world? What are their names? What thoughts did they publish? What did they really invent? Quran? Please enlighten me!
FYI, most world intellectuals are atheists and Muslims are conspicuously absent from that  great list.

"If a Kafir refuses, he should simply be beheaded -- so that the world is cleansed of ugly pests."  Shoaib, the Phata (castrated goat)

Old habits die slow! Desperate man do desperate things. Do not try it publicly before you loose your head! Infidels do not subscribe the other cheek policy anymore.



On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Mohammed Shoaib <shoaib187@yahoo.com> wrote:
An Western journalist once asked an Indian doctor bathing in the Ganges (Varanasi), "How does a doctor bathe in such polluted water?".  The reply, "As a doctor, I consider this water nothing but pure poison -- but as a devout Hindu, this water is holy, necter from Ma Ganga.  Then he scooped water from the river and drank it -- to the horror of the journalist".  I have seen pictures of devout Hindus like you drinking cow-urine direct from the cow (during discharge).  Morarji Desai -- one time Indian PM -- publicly broadcast that his only medicine is his urine (Hindu Ayurvedic) -- and he cured his brother's tuberculosis by forcing him to drink his own urine (What a Satanic cult by a PM?).

Idolatry is the oldest religion along with cow-worship.  The longest Sura in the Holy Koran (Sura Bakara) exclusively deals with Cow-Worship and its harmful impact on such worshippers.  As people made intellectual and spiritual progress -- they broke away from idolatry and polytheism -- while embracing Monotheism -- except Barbaric and backward Hindus (Imagine divine power in clay idol -- burn widow in Sathi -- offer the first child to Mother Ganges -- rub female genital with "Shiv Lingam" so that infertile women can bear child -- worship a snake or a monkey so that coward Hindus can escape snake-bite or monkey power!  I can go on and on to exemplify how stupid, immoral, unethical and anti-intellectual Cow-Urine Drinking Hindu religion is!  Now you know why your beloved Hindustan can not provide even a toilet to the majority of its people?  At least, Shonar Bangla gave you a toilet.  So, have some gratitude for your Motherland and stop Worshipping Cows and now MC Modi.

Koran clearly calls upon Muslims to preach Monotheism to Idolaters (Kafirs) and other non-believers by emphasizing virtue over vice.  If a Kafir refuses, he should simply be beheaded -- so that the world is cleansed of ugly pests.  Muslim invaders and rulers followed Koranic guidance everywhere -- except in Spain and India.  Had they followed what they were supposed to do -- we would have a Muslim India (ruled by Muslims more than a thousand years) and a Muslim Spain (700 years).  And now, instead of drinking cow-urine -- and taking your wife to Shiv Lingam -- you would be prostrating facing Mecca for your intellectual and spiritual enlightenment.  Allah helps those who want to help themselves.  There is still time.

India is a secular country.  How the hell an animal gets priority over a human life?  How sick is a Hindu mind?  That explains why Hindustan (BTW Hindu, Hindi, Hindustan are names (Farsi) given by Muslims -- otherwise, Hindus would be globally castigated as mere Kafirs (Idol Worshippers).  Every race or community has its times of glory and demise.  During post-renaissance -- Muslims were at the peak of glory (Mughals in India, Safavids in Persia, Ottomans in Turkey) while Europe remained mired in the dark ages.  Don't boast about your (if you consider yourself Indian but not Bangladeshi -- a hall mark of all Bangladeshi Hindu Monafiqs) intellectuals thriving in America.  These are all Carpet-Baggars -- traitors to Mother India.  They get almost free education through the largesse of Bharat Mata -- then promptly bolt for foreign countries leaving India at the mercy of RSS, BJP, Bajrang Dal and other Hindu Thugs. Now, you know how big a Monafiq a Hindu can be to his own mother and mother land?  BTW, there are more Indians (Untouchables have priority) cleaning Muslim toilets in the Middle East than Pakis or BDs.

As for Hindu valor, I wrote elsewhere how Hasina Buija (Sister in Noakhalya dialect) considered pro-India -- sent her valiant BDR forces to massacre 25 Hindu BSF cowards without sustaining any loss.  And how did India take revenge?  By shooting down an innocent child (Felani) trying to cross from India to BD! How dastardly and cowardly an act considering that Felani was leaving India and not entering it?  And who did this cowardly inhuman act.  A Bengali Hindu MC called Ghosh who was acquitted in two trials -- what a travesty of justice!  Just think it in reverse -- BDR killing a Hindu trying to cross over to India? India would let loose all its Armed Forces with all its fire power to slaughter each and every Muslim in India.  So, Brother DeElder -- you need a proper "Deel" to understand the difference between a Hindu and a Muslim.  BTW, I have travelled extensively throughout India.  I have found that Bengali Hindus are the most rabid anti-Muslim Hindus in India -- and BD Hindus are most treacherous to Shonar Bangla.  Just stand in front of a mirror.  The mirror will tell you if you are a Sadhu or a Satan.  Best wishes.

Shoaib 



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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?

The problem with the Hindus and Budhists is that their no-violence attitude towards the invaders and foreigners. Whoever came to India were free to settle and prosper. People never got harassed for being different. Even Jews ad Zaros did miss the boat because they were cleansed by none other than peace loving Muslims. Needless to say, everything was well and great until barbarian Bedouins came from the west. Now, tax is needed to be paid for not being Muslim? So much for Islamic superiority and enlightenment? A Muslim Culture (God knows what is it except praying five times a day) which was born or created in only 7th century, suddenly becomes superior to thousand years old Vedic knowledge and culture? Stop smoking, dear! 

The best thing that happened to India was that English broke the Muslim choke hold on India. It was a blessing in disguise! Had Muslims continued to rule North India, the whole damn India would have become just another extension of Middle-east. Thank God, that was not to be!

As for you being so much concerned about Indians and their well being, you should focus on our own Bangladeshi miskins. How many Bangladeshis are cleaning toilets while Indians running US university faculties? Google and Microsoft CEOs, all got their IIT degrees from India and running global shows. Where is your Muslim equivalent? Five times prayers is not much help in this fast moving dynamic world. These guys are not even Brahmins! You think, all this is just pure fluke? You suddenly convert Madrassas to modern education centers and get parity with Hindus? By studying what? Quran and Islamic history?

Muslims are not Jews, dear! I know Jews. Stop day dreaming about having parity with the Jews, Christians, Hindus and Budhists! Islam got some inherent mental  problems. Unless and until you address those problems, Muslims will stay laggard and behind. Thank you and God be with you!      

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Mohammed Shoaib <shoaib187@yahoo.com> wrote:
Never forget History.  If you disregard Muslim culture and contribution (Hindi Films, Tajmahal, Grand Trunk Road etc. etc.) -- India is next to nothing.  India is the only country that has been conquered by myriad of invaders, both Muslim and others -- with a handful of troops defeating large armada of Hindu troops and fighting tools.  India is the most "Barbaric Country" in the world and Hindus are the biggest cowards -- Just look at Kashmir (can't face stone throwing school children -- so tie up a Muslim over a jeep for protection -- how barbaric and cowardly stupidity by a Army major?  500,000 Indian Hindu troops can't fight a handful of Muslim Fredom Fighters!  India claims to be the largest democracy on earth by denying millions of Kashmiris their fundamental democratic rights of self-determination.  What nation would elect a thug, a murderer -- accused of a genocide as its Prime Minister -- who publicly claims that Ancient Hindu India invented auto mobile and aeroplane -- perfected Plastic Surgery "(Lord Ganesh.  This the MC (Mother Ch...) openly declared while inaugurating a modern hospital in Mumbai?".

If you think of rape, murder, loot, arson and other atrocities committed by Hindu soldiers in Muslim Kashmir -- they have long surpassed Pakistani genocide 
in Shonar Bangla (9 months compared to Kashmir's seventy years.  How barbaric is a nation where Muslim men are lynched on false cow pretext while low caste Hindu girls are raped and hanged with government help (total impunity).  These are acts of cowardice.  Where was Hindu valor in 1962 when China more or less took over Greater Assam with Hindu troops in lightening retreat?  Despite daily provocations by Pakistan -- India simply takes the blow and hides from Pakistani artillery and mortar attack?  During Hasina Buija's first term -- Our valiant BDR massacred 25 BSF without suffering any loss!  Indian troops (almost 80%) engaged in genocide in Kashmir and elsewhere -- have simply lost their morale and fighting spirit to face any organised military.  Isn't that what caused Pakistan to lose East Pakistan?  India needs to learn a lesson from their Eastern and Western Muslim Masters.  Pakistan is the world's fastest growing nuclear power -- will soon supercede China to become the third largest.  Pakistani nuclear devices have longer range, greater payload and accuracy than India's.  If there is a war -- India's Muslim lynching and low-caste raping Hindu Thugs will simply burn in Haviar Dhojog -- the worst of hell.

Yes, if Madrassas (India, Pak, BD) are converted to quality schools -- Muslims will go far ahead of Hindus in just two generations.  Just look at Jews -- discriminated for centuries -- and yet on top -- just by pursuing quality education.  And this is also good for India.  Muslims, Untouchables, and Low-caste Hindus make the majority population in India.  If they are suppressed and exploited -- India will never make any meaningful progress.  That explains why India has more people below the poverty line than rest of the world -- majority if Indians still do not have access to a toilet!  Why?  Because well educated Indians who get education at public cost are not in India -- they are in USA, U.K., Canada, Australia and elsewhere minting money and building other nations at the cost of India.  Those left behind are poorly educated, with very little professional skill.  Only 13% of Engineering graduates are employed -- the rest are unemployable -- surviving with odd jobs or no job at all.  Well educated Muslim and Low-caste Hindus can fill the gap and develop India to its full potential.  

Best wishes and regards.

Shoaib


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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?

"Even today, if Indian Muslims turn their Madrassas and Urdu medium schools into high quality English Medium schools -- they will far supercede all Indian Hindus in less than two generations..." M. Shoaib.

Only possible if Hindus suddenly are prevented from taking education by a supernatural force. It is a wishful thinking but almost impossible to implement on such a large diverse mass. They have survived both Islamic and English rules and prospered. Would lowly educated Muslims and low caste Chandal' rule change anything except starting a new civil war? Is it worth trying because Muslims have already failed miserably and globally?

My friend, people are free to educate themselves and explore the nature. Knowledge can't and shouldn't be forced on to a reluctant mass! That would be a pure waste of time. Religion does not provide superiority but knowledge does!

Muslims got far way to go. If a simple Greek sculpture makes Muslims to ejaculate too early, the future nights would be even darker for many Muslims.

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM, 'Mohammed Shoaib' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@ googlegroups.com> wrote:



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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?

Sikkim: Area 2,700 Sq.Mile -- Pop. 650,000 -- No Armed Forces.  BD: Area 555000 plus Sq.Miles -- Pop. 165,000000 -- Modern, Well Equipped Armed Forces.  It is an insult to any one's intelligence (If you have any) to compare Sikkim and BD Vis-a-Vis India.  If India exercised overwhelming control over BD -- would they allow us to sign 25 billion dollar projects and buy Submarine from China?  Please use your Common Sense if you have any!  Hasina is the only South Asian Leader who did not attend Modi's Inauguration.  So, how much she is beholden to that thug.  After seventy years, she finalized border enclave deal with India where we are net beneficiary in terms of area and population.  Even the Teesta Treaty was almost sign but for the arrogance of another Bengali, Mamata Banerjee.  If you still think she is a puppet -- then there is no co-relation between your common sense and reality.

I had earlier explained how Muslims aling with low caste and untouchable Hindus could rule an undivided India.  Even today, if Indian Muslims turn their Madrassas and Urdu medium schools into high quality English Medium schools -- they will far supercede all Indian Hindus in less than two generations...



From: Jalal Uddin Khan <jukhan@gmail.com>
To: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>; shoaib187@yahoo.com; ranu51@hotmail.com; pfc-friends@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?

True, Capt Razzak.  We're not talking about hard  physical occupation of Bangladesh by India by marching its soldiers into Bangladesh. Modern occupation is soft and silent--political, economic, cultural, intelligence sharing, and, yes, secret commando units put in places of interest, as ■Ranu Chowdhury mentioned. As someone of us said before, if India can milk Bangladesh for free, why would it take the risk of creating another Kashmir in the east by force?
It is wrong to say that Bangladesh would not have been independent without Indian help as ■Mohammad Shoaib contends. India entered the fray only a week before the independence. It was lying on the sidelines for more than eight months when Pakistani forces were already being defeated at different fronts by the Muktibahini. The only thing is that maybe it would have taken a little longer if there were no Indian participation.  Secondly, India participated in its own interest--to break and weaken Pakistan with minimum risk and maximum chance of victory. Third,  had there been no Pakistan,  there would not have been any Bangladesh because India disowned East Bengal twice, 1930 and 1947, which forced the people of East Bengal to join Pakistan. Consequently, there would not have been ■any Sq Leaders without Pakistan/East Pakistan first and then Bangladesh. So why to worship the cow mother India in an indiscriminate and unqualified way and be on the list of Indian razakars?
On May 20, 2017 1:13 AM, "Razzak Syed" <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:
I don't think India need even 2 seconds to take over Bangladesh, when we have Indian razakaars in the power and hypocrites like Shoaibs are living inside the country,  but one thing I know, they can't digest easily, just like "কুত্তার পেটে ঘি হজম্ হয়না। ভারতিয় দালাল কুত্তাগুলি নিজেরাই মারামারি করছে।"



Razzak A. Syed


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On 20 May 2017, at 6:59 am, Mohammed Shoaib <shoaib187@yahoo.com> wrote:

India can over-run BD in two weeks -- but won't last more than two months -- unless, of course, the same Razakars and Al-Badrs (Anti-Bangladesh elements) take India's side -- just switching masters -- from Pakistan to India.  Remember, once a Razakar, always a Razakar.  Allah knows best.

Shoaib



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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?


Bhutan Noi, Sikkim Noi, Kashmir Noi Edesh amar Bangladesh. While we tackled Pakistanis and defeated them in only 9 months ,we can take care of India too. We have that stamina.
160 million deshpremik Bangladeshis  can face India's aggression in Sha Allah. If India wants more, we can establish greater Bangladesh with West Bengal, Assom, Tripua and other neighbouring states.

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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 00:43:27 +1000

Your GDP gone high, after 60 years, West Bengal has highest growth, every year official remittances is $5bn, only Allah know how much unofficial.
 
Do you more to know, shala maloo!

Razzak A. Syed
 
 
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On 20 May 2017, at 12:08 am, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure, what would be India's benefit to swallow fast growing 200mil Muslims? What good would that bring to Indians?
 For some Islamist, this might be a wishful thinking because Bangladesh is running out of space and time due
 to its massive growth... mainly in the area four legged clowns. FYI, Allah has not sanctioned any new land for
 Hepazotis except an afterlife heaven with illusive whores. India would not accommodate the land if that is what Hepazotis want
 and desire? In regards to Ranu's love for Pakistani sophisticated  weaponry and bravery, his peyara Paki brothers had to lick Indian
 boots for their safe passage back to their home country. So much for superior weaponry and Punjabi bravery?! Pakis
 lost the war and got humiliated.





On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:49 PM, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Following is the original version of the Lahore Resolution. It didn't say of three parts, but implied with Hindu India in between.
>
> The Resolution declared: "No constitutional plan would be workable or acceptable tothe Muslims unless geographical contiguous units are demarcated into regionswhich should be so constituted with such territorial readjustments as may benecessary. That the areas in which the Muslims are numerically in majority as in theNorth-Western and Eastern zones of India should be grouped to constituteindependent states in which the constituent units shall be autonomous andsovereign".
> The Resolution declared: "No constitutional plan would be workable or acceptable tothe Muslims unless geographical contiguous units are demarcated into regionswhich should be so constituted with such territorial readjustments as may benecessary. That the areas in which the Muslims are numerically in majority as in theNorth-Western and Eastern zones of India should be grouped to constituteindependent states in which the constituent units shall be autonomous andsovereign".The Resolution declared: "No constitutional plan would be workable or acceptable tothe Muslims unless geographical contiguous units are demarcated into regionswhich should be so constituted with such territorial readjustments as may benecessary. That the areas in which the Muslims are numerically in majority as in theNorth-Western and Eastern zones of India should be grouped to constituteindependent states in which the constituent units shall be autonomous andsovereign".The Resolution declared: "No constitutional plan would be workable or acceptable tothe Muslims unless geographical contiguous units are demarcated into regionswhich should be so constituted with such territorial readjustments as may benecessary. That the areas in which the Muslims are numerically in majority as in theNorth-Western and Eastern zones of India should be grouped to constituteindependent states in which the constituent units shall be autonomous andsovereign"."No constitutional plan would be workable or acceptable to the Muslims unless geographical contiguous units are demarcated into regions which should be so constituted with such territorial readjustments as may be necessary. That the areas in which the Muslims are numerically in majority as in the North-Western and Eastern zones of India should be grouped to constitute independent states in which the constituent units shall be autonomous and sovereign".
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> Pakistan later modified it to say Independent State, for the fight of which A K Fazlul Haq fell out/expelled from the Muslim League. Suharawardy, Satyen Bose, Abul Hashem and a few others continued to fight for an independent Bengal (with Assam) separate from India and Pakistan. Nehru prevailed on Mountbatten (using his illicit connection with Edwina Mountbatten) not to accept it, even though Jinnah had no objection.
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> Since 1947, India's only obsession was to separate East Pakistan from the West. The opportunity fell on its lap in 1971, thanks to the idiotic Punjabi civil and military leaders. While we do gratefully acknowledge the help India offered to our freedom fight, Indira Gandhi's main objective was the "Hazar salon ka badla", which she said at the Parliament after the fall of Pakistan.; it was not for any love for Bengalis. India's motive was further manifested by not allowing Colonel Osmani, the Mukti Bahini Chief, at the surrender ceremony and the looting away of all the sophisticated weaponry left by 5 Plus Pakistani Divisions.
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> Indira was a shrewd player. Her vision was far sighted. She had already received intelligence reports how India was sternly detested in Bangladesh. When she visited Dhaka in March 1972, she saw the wall writings loud and clear. If she hadn't committed to withdraw her troops from Bangladesh, there would have been the Second Freedom War for us then itself. And, China would not have remained quiet this time. She waited for her chance for long term goal on Bangladesh, which her successors are implementing religiously, thanks to our own idiots.
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> Yes, Bangladesh is no Kashmir; it is a bigger bait to swallow. Unfortunately, however, Bangladeshi slaves and stooges serving India continue to present Bangladesh to their masters in platter just to stay in power, ignoring national interests. Why wouldn't India avail it?
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> Below is my separate post in this thread.
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> Under Sheikh Hasina, Bangladesh has already become half Sikkim. Half of DGFI office is occupied by the RAW, whose agents are everywhere in Bangladesh, even inside the law enforcement agencies as well as in the military. It is an open secret that Hasina's Gonobhaban is guarded by Indian commandos. The other day, there was a picture depicting Indian visa office opened inside the Army Hqs. All the recent 36 Agreements Hasina signed in New Delhi, including the 4 MoUs on defense, are to benefit India alone, nothing for Bangladesh. Teesta, Tipaimukh, Farakka, S Talpatti, Felani, border shootings, trade imbalance, deadly drugs push-in, cultural agressions--all forgotten. Don't believe it? Take a trip to Dhaka and talk to the common man, not within the hearing distance of a Gopali chamcha or tiktiki.
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> Burgeoning shopping malls, big or small, are filled with Indian cheap and rotten items and Hindi is almost the spoken language. Less said about our cultural front, better it is; suffice to say that Islamic Bangladesh is losing its identity.  
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> Your gerai Obaidul Kader has already issued a fatwa: AL needs at least four terms in the government, meaning  additional two terms, to turn Bangladesh into "something" most people visualize as complete Indianization.
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> I agree, it may not be a Sikkim Syndrome for Bangladesh; it would be worse. As a state, India has a responsibility in Sikkim. As its vassal state, which it has almost become, India has no responsibility but only to extract benefits. And, it is doing exactly that, thanks to its slavish protege, the illegal fascist Hasina regime and its lackeys at home and abroad. The story is never ending, yet I must stop now.  
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> Thanks for your attention.
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> Subject: Fw: {PFC-Friends} Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?
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> Where did you get this silly idea from -- perhaps through hallucination and delusion on anti-Muslim Modi and anti-Bengali Bharat Mata.  In Lahore Resolution (Proposed by Sher-e-Bangla), India were to be divided into three Dominions -- Muslim East and West -- Hindu in between.  But Congress fought tooth and nail -- opposing any independent status to the East (Bengal and Assam).  That's how we came up with geo-political stupidity called Pakistan (comprising East and West).  Had Congress agreed to the Lahore Resolution -- we won't have lost twenty five years of our progress and prosperity, along with 3 million dead!
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> India has more than 500,000 troops deployed in Kashmir (against less than thousand guerrilas) and yet has not been able to control Kashmiri aspirations for Independence or merger with Pakistan.  How many millions would they need (Troops) to control Shonar Bangla with a Muslim population thirty times more than Kashmir's?  If India ever thought that they could physically take hold of Shonar Bangla -- they would have never withdrawn their troops after our Liberation War.  Hindus are smarter than that.  Please try to use basic intelligence and common sense before you cry foul over India -- a deadly concoction of your delusion and hallucination.  Best regards.
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> From: Zoglul Husain (zoglul@hotmail.co.uk)
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> Is India Restaging 'Sikkim Saga' in Bangladesh?
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> The plot to merge Sikkim with India started in 1970 and completed in 1975. But in case of Bangladesh the saga started in 1947 as Indian leaders declared to reunite that part of Bengal to India that joined Pakistan.
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