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Tuesday, October 10, 2017

[mukto-mona] Meghalaya: NCP tags BJP as ‘Communal force’, rules out alliance with saffron party



Meghalaya: NCP tags BJP as 'Communal force', rules out alliance with saffron party



SHILLONG, Oct 11, 2017: Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) National Secretary and Spokesperson, Narendra Verma on Tuesday called the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) a communal force 

while ruling out any possibility of entering into a pre or post alliance with the saffron party.As the Assembly elections draw closer, national as well as regional parties in the state are prepared to 

put up a good show with focus being laid on bringing about change in governance by overthrowing the congress regime.

These parties (excluding congress) have one thing in common — Congress-free state but none of them have expressed willingness to go for any pre-poll alliance except for two major regional 

parties — UDP and HSPDP. While the UDP which is already a member of NEDA- Northeast Democratic Alliance, is already on the same boat as the NPP and BJP, the HSPDP, KHNAM and now 

NCP are keeping their distance from the BJP. "The NCP is open to alliance with any likeminded secular party but not any communal forces like the saffron brigade," Verma said.'

Verma who was in Shillong to review the poll preparedness of the NCP and to announce the issuing of the forms to apply for the party tickets said that the doors of the NCP has always been open 

for alliance both post-poll and pre-poll elsewhere in the country with likeminded parties but not with the saffron party.

"NCP is always open to having alliance with likeminded parties and the doors are always open as pre-poll and post-alliance is a part of election and democracy but in Meghalaya we are not going 

for any prepoll alliance," Verma said.

Asked about alliance with the BJP, Verma said, "No. Not with saffron. Not with communal forces".

He however added that it is a long way to forge a post alliance in Meghalaya. "It is too early. Let the result come and the numbers be clear," Verma added.

Talking about leaders from other political parties joining the NCP, Verma said, "What I have seen and observed is that a lot of people are approaching the NCP and in coming days more and more

 leaders from other political parties will be joining the party". On poll preparedness, Verma said, "Our organization set up is really building and in days to come many NCP national leaders would be 

visiting the state and a big convention will take place in Tura thereafter Minority leader Tarik Anwar and NCP MP Supriya Suley will also be visiting and in the coming days the momentum will built up".






                          


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[mukto-mona] Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: {PFC-Friends} This mail is only for a few fundamentalists Islamic thugs of those forums:



Thank you. Yes, I can talk with you. But, there are some people in those forums they are just irritating? Please note that, I am not a Gandhi!


You know, militant Islamists won't allow infidels to survive, so, from time to time, I push hard for survival? May be the world will do the same in near future or Burma may have started that?


You are talking about anti-Islam propaganda, believe me, world is not Islam-phobic yet, not even Trump? But people are telling the truth, you are calling it Islam-phobia? My friend, truth is hard and harsh. Hide and seek game is over, internet will open everything.


Militant Islamists are pushing the world in a negative direction, and sometimes you peoples actions are supportive to them. Now you are talking loud for Rohingas, because they are Muslims? You did nothing for Nasirnagar or Ramu in your own country, because victims were non-Muslims? Problem is there, what you are doing is Islamophilic, not humanitarian?


Bangladesh government arrested 25 Rohinga militants for killing Hindus while in Myanmar? And you are supporters of those militant Islamists? Well, give food and shelter for the refugees, and while situation normalizes, push them back, but both government should crush the militants!


In deep heart, most of you love Bin Laden? If I tell this, I am communal? If I tell IS, Al-Quida, Boko-Haram are Islamic terrorists, you get angry at me? But did you ever think, why non-Muslims can't live in Muslim countries? It's not our fault, it's your fault, problem lies somewhere in your teachings? Admit the problem, solve it?


Take the example of Beirut, which was a great city before Muslim rule! Iran, which killed almost all infidels? Same situation in almost all 56 Jungle countries? When Pakistan drove its 33% non-Muslims, you were happy, now if Burma follows Pakistan, why you are crying? What you will do if the world started following Muslim countries?


And please don't bring India and some verses to justify! Finally, I don't have time to read even all those garbage. And you don't need to answer my mail. Thanks again.


On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:48 PM, zainul abedin <zainul321@yahoo.com> wrote:
Salam, brothers,

I told you before that I do not reply/talk to the people in disguise (on principle, as I came to understand that), these people are so-called Musalmans (in disguise) worse than any person of other religions---some of you are not realizing! See, what they are coming up with (totally anti-Islam). For Mr. Guha, it may be normal he will be against Islam, though he claims that he is against the group(s) who belong(s) to fundamentalism. Actually, whatever he/they is/are coming up with (in support of one another-- simultaneously and, or consecutively)  that is against Islam, Quran, Allah, Khoda, Rasul (SM), everything.

Please look at the Principle of Allah at the very beginning of Quran (Surah Baqarah), Munafiqs' position is below (worst) the non-believers. Leave them to stir their worst dirt. The more you talk the more they get the chance of throwing dirt. 

Now, I  will say a little bit for Mr. Guha. Please think that being an educated/intellectual person whats you are posting, all those are against Islam (not mere any group). You are scolding (in bad names) some people who call you a bad name. All people in the forum(s) are educated people. Even then, people cannot control their anger, and you are in the same situation.

Now, please think of the general masses, say, in Bangladesh where we have seen some communal incidents (I condemn those). And, in most cases, your cohorts, Awami Leaguers (others may be in disguise!), were in the forefronts of the incidents. The general masses are not much educated like you. They possess some beliefs (say, religious, like you). When they see those are severely hurt, they forget their political identity, like your Hasina Devi also does that, sometimes!

You (Mr, Guha) being educated have been posting so much heinous things, what your (even if I say our) less-educated people usually do--probably, not better than that. In that case, who would be/ should be blamed for what. 

Yes, Muslims (I call so-called) are in bad situation, no doubt. You have been enjoying that bad condition of Muslims, such as Rohingyas. But nothing is final. Yes, "Muslims" should take lesson from you what is the real world, though you and me are not the whole world. 

God/Allah makes a lot of changes as the Final Authority! I might hope, you might also be changed, Inshallah!

Best,  For mistakes--my apology!

Zainul Abedin







On Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 4:40:34 PM CDT, 'qamruddin chowdhury' via North America Bangladeshi Community <nabdc@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Thanks a lot Razzak Syed bhai.


With salams and best regards. Yours truly, QAMRUDDIN CHOWDHURY




On Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 3:01:48 PM EDT, 'Razzak Syed' via North America Bangladeshi Community <nabdc@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Dear Br. QC,
       AWRB. Alhamdulillah. My guess was right. Zajak Allah Khair, for sharing. 

Doesn't matter, how much propaganda or plans they do, to demoralising the people, they cannot harm Islam or misguide anyone whom Allah(SWT) guides. May Allah (SWT) guide us and protect us from these devils.

Wassaalam 


 Razzak A. Syed

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On 9 Oct 2017, at 1:39 pm, 'qamruddin chowdhury' via North America Bangladeshi Community <nabdc@googlegroups.com> wrote:



On Saturday, October 7, 2017, 7:21:47 PM EDT, Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com> wrote:



On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 6:48 PM, M Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chore naa shone dhormer kahini...

What this hiding man, SD with high Intellectual qualifications trying to say is Mosolman ra Hindu aar Brahmin der cheye onek pechone ... True ... So, let him win... some day, I may end up taking a janitor's job in SD's company... the way Indians are getting advantages everywhere, that day may not be far away.

My company had hired a Hindu VP two years back... At that time rarely there were any Indian Directors in the company... Today, there are 10 Directors and 20 managers from Indian descent... and needless to say that 50% IT staff are also Indian and primarily Hindu...

So, in reality it is their win time... go SD...





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On Oct 7, 2017 6:21 PM, 'Razzak Syed' via North America Bangladeshi Community <nabdc@googlegroups.com> wrote:

অতঃপর তোমরা তাদেরকে ঠাট্টারপা ত্ররূপে গ্রহণ করতে। এমনকি, তা  তোমাদেরকে আমার স্মরণভুলিয়ে দি য়েছিল এবং তোমরাতাদেরকে দেখে  পরিহাস করতে।


আজ আমি তাদেরকে তাদেরসবরের কা রণে এমন প্রতিদানদিয়েছি যে, তা রাই সফলকাম।


I believe in it n stick with it.

Razzak A. Syed


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On 8 Oct 2017, at 8:43 am, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

অতঃপর তোমরা তাদেরকে ঠাট্টার পাত্ররূপে গ্রহণ করতে। এমনকি, তা তোমাদেরকে আমার স্মরণ ভুলিয়ে দিয়েছিল এবং তোমরা তাদেরকে দেখে পরিহাস করতে।


আজ আমি তাদেরকে তাদের সবরের কারণে এমন প্রতিদান দিয়েছি যে, তারাই সফলকাম।

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Re: [mukto-mona] Afraid of Sharia? by Rabbi Jack Romberg



Good to see you back to the forum. As for Sharia and this man's wish everybody to practice Islam is rather a calculated provocation. Are we really missing Islam, Sharia and Ummah gospel from our lives? Sounds like he is not any different from another baggage holding Bagdaddhi. I say, please practice at home with care!


On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:45 PM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

On 8 Oct 2017 3:00 a.m., "Akbar Hussain akbarh1950@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
If I have to believe in jinnis I don't need this zombie faith.  


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On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Laws should be made based upon human senses of right and wrong, fairness and unfairness, and justice and injustice; not upon any kind of religious beliefs or dictates. No law should be with reference to Sharia, Halachah, Canon Law, etc. kind of religious edicts. If any of those edicts made a legislator wise, he should bring that wisdom to the arguments in the process of making laws. 'I need this law based upon my religious belief' should not be a valid argument in that process.

Sukhamaya Bain

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On Saturday, October 7, 2017 9:07 AM, "'Jamal G. Khan' M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Afraid of Sharia?

A bill is making its way through the Florida Senate, SB 58, whose stated intent is to limit the influence of foreign laws in American courts. 
This sounds benign enough on the surface, but upon examining the bill, and its sponsor, multiple red flags appear. Lawyers will point out 
that legislation of this sort presents problems of interference between the branches of government. After all, don't our judges know what 
is or is not admissible into their courtrooms? Should they not have the latitude to decide what is relevant to a case? Further, there is the question of how a state can enforce a law that affects federal courts. But all of this is for the lawyers to argue. For me, there is a question of intent behind this law that reveals a rather scary mind set.
The bill is sponsored by Senator Alan Hays. He previously introduced a bill, that failed, which mentioned Sharia law in particular. When asked to give an example of Sharia law influencing an American court, his response was to compare his legislation to inoculating against a disease. In other words, he had no examples. His legislation is born out of his fear of a word – Sharia – which given the history of the past 12 years in the United States has become a rather radioactive word.
Sharia is to Islam what Halachah is to Judaism and Canon law is to the Catholic Church
A key difference, however, between Sharia and Halachah on the one hand, and Canon law on the other, is that neither Islam nor Judaism have a central institution or leader whose interpretation of law binds all members of the faith. 
The Church is an ecclesiastic authority headed by the Pope, and all Catholics have an obligation to follow the law as interpreted by that authority. Whether they do or not is another issue, but the authority exists.
In Judaism the authority of each rabbi in his (or her) community is to be respected by other rabbis. There is certainly a long tradition of fierce debate and argument over the application and interpretation of Jewish law among rabbis, but once a rabbi makes a decision for their community, visiting rabbis are obliged to respect that decision. This ideal is not the reality, as there are fierce divisions between the various streams of Judaism; thus an ongoing argument over whose interpretations are authentically Jewish. This just underscores the fact that NO rabbinic authority can claim to speak for all Jews. Even within denominations there is politicization over the exercising of authority. The Orthodox rabbinate in Israel, for example, is not recognizing conversions by all American orthodox rabbis – to the consternation of the American orthodox rabbinate. Further complicating this scene are the ethnic differences between Jews from various regions. The minhagim (customs) of Ashkenazic, Sephardic, Greek, and Yemenite Jews, just to name a few, are very different. There is no unified Jewish voice on halachah.
The same can be said of Sharia law. Interpretation of Sharia varies in Islam according to the stream (e.g. Sunni and Shia), according to geography and according to time. All of Islam agrees that the Quran and the teachings of the prophet are the law, but the interpretation of verses of the Quran depends on the cleric and the perspective of the group he is leading. Islamic law, like Jewish law, is a living organism, that is evolving with time. New circumstances require new insights into the divine word of each religion. What is fair for Americans to ask, and what Moslems (and Jews) can answer is this: what is the relationship of your religious law (Sharia, halachah) to American law?
For Jews, halachah holds sway for religious ritual, but for criminal, tort and civic law the law of the land prevails. Most Jewish authorities see no conflict between the basic values, basic ethics that drive halachah and American law. We see them as compatible. The American Islamic community takes a very similar perspective. American Moslems see the underlying values and ethics of Sharia reflected in the underlying values and ethics of American law. There is no need for the United States to adopt Sharia law as basic American values make it possible for Moslems to practice their religion freely in the United States. In some areas where Islamic law allows a practice that is not in accordance with American law, the Moslem community does not ask for an exception. An example of this is polygamy, which is allowed under Sharia. It is rarely practiced but it is allowed. American Moslems happily conform to American law.
So what drives Senator Hays and others who seem so afraid of Sharia? It is a conflation of all of Islam under one heading – one that defaults to the harshest applications of Sharia. What is lost on Senator Hays, and those who fear Sharia, are the many Moslem scholars who see these applications (or misapplications) of Sharia as shallow, literal, and not moral. Ironically, Senator Hays, in his arguments for his bill, heavily quotes Rabbi Jonathan Hausman, rabbi of Ahavath Torah in Stoughton, MA. Rabbi Hausman aligns himself with the Dutch politician Geert Wilders, who, among other things, wanted to make the construction of mosques in the Netherlands illegal. Hausman has spoken at an affair co-hosted by the JDL – the Jewish Defense League – whose founder, Meir Kahane embraced the physical expulsion of all Moslems from Israel and the West Bank before his murder by an Arab gunman in 1990 in Manhattan. It is not surprising that the most radically violent wing of the Jewish world would characterize the entire Islamic world as violent radicals (that is, after all, what radical Moslem groups do – characterize all of the Jewish world by the actions of its most radical elements). What is disconcerting is that an American politician would draw on the fringe of any group to support a law that could have devastating effects on Americans of all types.
That is what makes the mindset so scary. When we react to the cartoon version of a word/concept/belief as opposed to making the effort to research and understand it, the result will be destructive; not only to the party it is intended to harm, but to others in society as well. To pass a law for which there has been no demonstrated need, just a reaction out of fear and ignorance, creates a potential for harm to be done to all Americans.
Post script: In doing some research for this post I have been struck by the many parallels and similarities between Jewish law, halachah, and Islamic law, Sharia. More on this to come.

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