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Saturday, April 4, 2009

[mukto-mona] In Support of Mallika Sarabhai

Dear All!
Greetings.
We are planning to hold a preparatory meeting to support Mallika Sarabhai who is contesting from Gandhinagar against NDA's prime minister designate L K Advani. We need to support Mallika in whatever way we can. As Mumbai and Gujarat has organic relations, we can organize some meetings, invite Mallika to address few including press conference, help financially etc. We can discuss these issues and form a group in support of Mallika Sarabhai. As the meeting is important we hope you all will make it convenient to attend it.
Venue : CSSS, 602, Silver Star Apt, Prabhat Colony, Behind Santa Cruz (E) Bus Depot
Day & Time : 7th April (Tuesday) / 6.00 pm

Regards,

Jatin Desai Ram Puniyani Ramesh Pimple

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[ALOCHONA] Hegels Reflective History.

When German philosopher Hegel wrote his famous Philosophy of History, many contemporary intellectuals called it as Hegelian fantasy. The question was how history can have a philosophy? History is just a chronology of events in black and white. But this treatise of Hegel was not based on the events of history; rather it was a critical diagnosis of the impact of history on the mankind and how generations interpret history in their own perspective. He divided history into three parts and the most important part is Reflective History. This is from where we take lessons from history. The famous historian Edward Gibbons wrote The Rise and fall of the Roman Empire. There are other historians too who have chronicled the same subject but Gibbon stands unique because he did not chronicled the events only, he put philosophical inputs also in his comments. This was like a story telling in history with inputs of personal wisdom.

 

Look at the history of India from the ancient times to the modern times. An amazing land mass full of mysticism and wisdom. The sages and kings are at times inseparable from each other. History says during the reign of emperor Harshavardana the Chinese traveller Huen en Sung came to Nalanda to study on Buddhism. At the end of his studies he came to pay his respects to the emperor. Emperor Harsha was much delighted and welcomed the famous traveller with humility and utmost respect to his court and after audience he requested his honoured visitor to give his blessing to India. The overwhelmed Huen en Sung said,O the mighty emperor, India is a great land who is being guarded by a great mountain like the Himalayas and the its feet is being washed by the seas from three sides. I am too humble to bless this great land. I am blessed that I could come to India and enrich my life.'

 

As a student of history throughout my entire life I enjoyed the influence of reflective history of India and the way history has moulded its society. Perhaps this was the reason why Tagore wrote, Aie Bharoter moha manober sagor tirey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

 

Akbar Hussain




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[ALOCHONA] Chatra League and Mockery of Sheikh Hasina

Until yesterday Sheikh Hasina was the Leader of Chatra League-the terror student wing of Awami League.
Today she resigned from that position. Who will take the responsibility of those killed by Chatra League when she was the leader?




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[ALOCHONA] How Many Awami MPs Belong to BNP and Jaamat?

Shifting blame is a propaganda by Awami League, they have done it effectively from day one. These crafty crooks of Hasina-lovers never get anything right, never will make anything right. The reason is very simple, nothing is their fault.

Why not ChattarLeague expelled those who are infiltrating their sane party? What these 'sonar chelera' want, you know, one party one daughter - and Hasina is the obvious choice!



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From: Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] How Many Awami MPs Belong to BNP and Jaamat?
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 8:58 PM


Dear Alochoks,
 
In the wake of endless barbaric terrorism ignited by Chatra League in the entire country, the Awami supporters (include media)
are propagating an interesting theorem that all these are being done by the BNP and Jaamat infiltrators. Banga Bondhu Sainiks are
"Dhoa Tulsi Pata.". Very soon we will hear that many Awami MPs are actually BNP and Jaamati infiltrators. For that reason, chaos is continuing in the country.
In order to keep the Awami House in order, I think the Awami League top rank should start indentifying the BNP and Jaamat infiltrators among their Parliament Members and Ministers.
 
SH




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[ALOCHONA] Prophet (SA)'s Traditions vs Jamaate Islami



Source: http://www.amadershomoy.com/content/2009/04/05/news0553.htm

I don't blame Mujahid much, it is the trdition of his spiritual and political guru Moududi who openly rejected Prophet (SA)'s sahih hadiths and criticized Prophets, Khulafe Rashedins, and Sahabas.

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[ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house

I 100% agree with your "Let her resign the leadership of BNP." If
anybody wants to stay inside the cantonment, he or she cannot do
politics. This should apply to anybody.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Alochok Mosharaf
>
> Hasina's small minded thinking is obvious in this issue. Mean minded
and
> shameless. It can easily be countered that Khaleda can keep her
> cantonment home in honour of her husband.
>
> But you should also remember that Ziaur Rahman is waiting to whip you
> with a belt when he finally gets to see you. For whilst he might like
> the notion of honouring him by giving his wife a cantonment home he
must
> disgusted that you think youl honour him by making his wife Prime
> Minister!
>
> Let her stay in the cantonment. Let her resign the leadership of BNP.
>
> Let BNP move forward for God's sake!
>
> Ezajur Rahman
>
> Kuwait
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mosharraf khan mosharrafkhokon@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear brothers & sisters,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings from the heart of Bangladesh.
> >
> >
> >
> > If the widow of retd. Army Chief couldn't reside within
> > the cantonment, how the widow of shahid Army officers will reside?
Is
> that
> > place only for the widows?
> >
> >
> >
> > As I heard that Shahid Zia had been resided in that house till
> > to death from became a major to be the Army Chief, President. The
> remembrance
> > of Shadhinotar Ghoshok, Shahid President Ziaur Rahman should be keep
> up by any
> > cost like the 32 no. house & Tongipara of Bangladesher Sthopoti
> Bangobandhu
> > Sheikh Mujibar Rahman. We have also seen in the past how the Bailey
> bridge was
> > shifted from Zia Uddan to Hobiganj.
> >
> >
> >
> > In near future we are going to be keeping the remembrance
> > of Khaleda Bibi & Hasina Bubu!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > We request to all
> > please refrain from vindictive activities and build our beloved
> Bangladesh
> > together.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mosharraf Khokon
> >
> > Poet, Organizer
> >
> > Secretary General, WPM
> >
>

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[mukto-mona] Economics and Politics of West Bengal-Invitation-11 April 2009 4pm

 Recent Debate on Development  -  A Discussion

Economics and Politics of West Bengal

Amartya Sen's Statements

Our Response


Discussants

Pranab Kanti Basu, Ranabir Samaddar, Prabrit Das Mahapatra, Subhendu Dasgupta

11 April 2009, Saturday, 4pm

Indumati Sabhagriha of National Council of Education at Jadavpur Vidyapith, [near Jadavpur University], Kolkata

Please come and invite others

General Secretary, Nagarik Mancha

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[mukto-mona] PM Hasina resigned from BCL's org. post

The govt. should take stern action against culprits who are making chaos in educational institutions, and at the same time student politics should be banned in Bangladesh.
 
 
 
০৪ এপ্রিল, শনিবার (আরটিএনএন)- ক্ষমতাসীন দলের ছাত্র সংগঠন বাংলাদেশ ছাত্রলীগের সাংগঠনিক প্রধানের পদ থেকে প্রদত্যাগ করেছেন আওয়ামী লীগ সভানেত্রী ও প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনা। শনিবার সন্ধ্যায় ধানমন্ডিতে আওয়ামী লীগ সভানেত্রীর রাজনৈতিক কার্যালয়ে দলটির সর্বোচ্চ নীতিনির্ধারনী ফোরাম প্রেসিডিয়াম সদস্যদের বৈঠক শেষে এ তথ্য জানান আওয়ামী লীগের মূখপাত্র ও এলজিআরডি মন্ত্রী সৈয়দ আশরাফুল ইসলাম। একইসঙ্গে ছাত্রলীগকে আওয়ামী লীগের অঙ্গসংগঠন হিসেবে থাকছে না বলেও জানান তিনি।

 

দেশের বিভিন্ন শিক্ষা প্রতিষ্ঠানে বিশৃংখলা সৃষ্টির দায়ে বাংলাদেশ ছাত্রলীগের বিরুদ্ধে শাস্তিমূলক ব্যাবস্থা নিতে শনিবার সন্ধ্যায় ধানমন্ডিতে আওয়ামী লীগ সভানেত্রীর রাজনৈতিক কার্যালয়ে দলটির প্রেসিডিয়ামের বৈঠক শুরু হয়। শেষ হয় রাত পৌনে নয়টায়।

 

বৈঠক শেষে সৈয়দ আশরাফ আরো বলেন, আওয়ামী লীগের অঙ্গ সংগঠন হিসেবে ছাত্রলীগকে থাকছে না। এ কারণে ছাত্রলীগের সাংগঠনিক প্রধানের পদ থেকে শেখ হাসিনা পদত্যাগ করেছেন। তবে আওয়ামী লীগের সহযোগী সংগঠন হিসেবে ছাত্রলীগ থাকতে পারে মন্তব্য করেন তিনি। সেক্ষেত্রেও শেখ হাসিনা ছাত্রলীগের কোন পদে থাকবন না।

 
Regards,
Dipu

 



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[ALOCHONA] Re: Let the truth be said.

Dear All -

Akbar Hossain wrote >>>The core truth is that religion is never a progressive idea because the very notion of a faith comes from fear and dogmas.<<<

What is religion? Are the Dharma and the religion same thing? For example, when we say water has dharma, it makes sense but when we say Islam is a dharma; hence water has islam, does it make sense? What malacious intent on his part to mingle this up and make his own context and create his own hateful propaganda? It must be exposed.

What is progressive idea? and What is not so progressive idea to him? And what are the differences between the two? that relates to Islam in his view with credible facts from the quran.

What is fear and dogma? what Islam's edicts in his view are dogmatic and fearful? Must provide with credible references from the Quran.

What is faith? is Islam a faith? what makes a faith a faith? Let's not get away this guy with his sinful intent to misguide us with his narrow political opportunist.

Is it politics or agression that when one nation sends 100 or 200 hundred thousands of its heavily armed troops across a border and subjugates its peace loving people and kills three millions of her citizens? If it requires a faith then Hindus and chrisnity faith have done that.

Is there any recent history that Islam has done that?

Let's not get away this fellow with his extreme hindu-right-wing views in disguise and blaming Islam for dividing his ancestral homeland.

I had asked of him in the past of how the word science speak for itself have not got any response ever since.

I want him to answer these questions as he rightfully recogniszed that the politicians are rarely intellectuals or social reformers. so i want him to fill the intellectual and reformers gap of politicans for us.

One thing I find of this fellow's views are consistent with Cyrus' views in terms of India's disunification and reunification motives are playing in their respective propaganda technique. or perhaps Cyrus and Akbar are the same person in two different names as an RAW agent working for india's interest?

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Akbar Hussain <akbar_50@...> wrote:

Mr.Ezajur Rahman wrote,

Which other country splits its young boys into two distinct and opposing groups at a young age? It is social and political suicide. Oh wait! Pakistan does it too!

I find this comment is very thought provoking and intelligent. But the unfortunate truth is that politicians are rarely intellectuals or social reformers. They are short sighted and mean too. The sad state of Pakistan should work as an eye opener to any reasonable person how religion can be used to destroy the very foundation of a modern nation. The core truth is that religion is never a progressive idea because the very notion of a faith comes from fear and dogmas. It's very dangerous to think or accept that a nation can be administered through religious edicts. Talking
> of faith as a source of inspiration or total guidance is totally insane and
> this is very much evident in the case of Pakistan, a nation which was created on a profoundly wrong
> notion of faith. Pakistan sustained itself from 1947 to this day by creating a
> religious passion and the consequences are in front of us. The tragic division
> of India in the name of religion was a blunder and the whole
> subcontinent is paying for this blunder, now.
>
>
>
> Akbar Hussain
>
>
>
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> From: ezajur.rahman@...
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:55:45 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Let the truth be said.
>
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> Dear Alochok Jamil
>
> No problems regarding our segregated education system are about to start. The problems have already started. The trouble is that our chicken**** political parties have no backbone to tackle the real social problems of our country. Far easy to talk about the past, tease the opposition and get the Japanese to build another bridge.
>
> Which other country splits its young boys into two distinct and opposing groups at a young age? It is social and political suicide. Oh wait! Pakistan does it too!
>
> I have no problem admitting that there are good madrassahs and good madrassah students. But that does not justify tearing the heart of our country in two. We need dialogue and leadership to bring all our young into the same classroom. Maybe we need to bring Islam more into our mainstream education. Whatever the solution is let the dialogue begin for God's sake.
>
> Look at Awami League's parliamentary majority! Look at the rhetoric of Awami League! Is now not the best time to address the issue of madrassah education? But they won't. Cowards.
>
> But all governments are the same. Complain about ngos but do nothing about them when in power. Complain about madrassahs but do nothing about them when in power. Just to save money. Filthy, filthy thinking.
>
> I have met a lot of fine men who had a madrassah education when they were young. I have met a lot of fine men who have argued for the madrassah system.
>
> Not one of them sent their children to a madrassah.
>
> Regards
>
> Ezajur Rahman
>
> Kuwait
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>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Jamil Ahmed <jamil_dhaka@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That's how it will start.
> > Â
> > May be some bombing here and there will create enough fear among
> > Bangladesh to stop all Madrasah. I don't like the system of  Madrasah
> > anyway but creating fear to create division among muslim will not serve us well.
> >  What need is useful education for all, good science and math  teacher at Madrasah.
> > Only then there will have even plane field for all.
> >
> > Â
> > Â
> > --- On Wed, 4/1/09, haquetm83@ haquetm83@ wrote:
> >
> > From: haquetm83@ haquetm83@
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Let the truth be said.
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, reform-bd@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 10:32 AM
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> > Hate campaign against Qawmi Madrasah or madrash education (islmaic education) is nothing but orchestrating or creating a fear factors and solely diverted against Islam or Muslims.
> > Â
> > While they (those preachers under the guise of secularism or else) enormously become successful in their relentless endeavor to bring Muslim down (which they will of course deny) that also goes hand in hand with the imperialist design or hegemonic control - as part of their so called security reason or foreign policy there of (which most of the Bangladeshi diasphora in the west even at denial state -calls it imaginary).
> > Â
> > Wish they understood what means education, save the religious belief, or right to education for all. Had they understood, they would tell, atleast uttered in some form that a prototype of Qawmi system that is cheapest, generous, self generated and self regulated -i.e without any frame work of regulations and control may be copied so that vast majority of poorest can access some form of education - free and often with food incentive.
> > Â
> > Had they understood, instead, they would have spirited enthusiasm to modify or develop the structure to facilitate so that a son or a daughter of a peasant who earns less than a dollar, can not pay for tuition, often for food even, can learn how to read his history, manage his own account (basic math) and know his creator and the virtues in life.
> > Â
> > Because their crocodile tears for 'right and education' only to deceive those poor learners from any form of education while the whole governement mechanism sit lam duck on the issue with many pretexts. Exactly that is what they cry for.
> > Â
> > Looking at the structured education and its quality and the way those preachers dominate ruthlessly under the protection of their protector only made bangladeshi education and its institutions breeding place for corruption and its breeders. 37 years on, they have achieved very little and have no intention to improve it. they may be complacent with their so called reform program but I am not and can not be. Because I want real education that is effective and pragmatic and knowledge bearing, whether in literature, science, politics, economics, religion or anthropology.
> > Â
> > For a true learner there is no short cut to knowledge, a meticulous process without any hinderance is the only way to earn it. As there is no short cut to heaven, no quick process to get enlightened also.
> > Â
> > Those half educated Mollah at Qawmi or Alia Madrasahs and politically appointed professors or teachers in our schools do nothing good but bring chaos and undermine our desperate effort to climb the ladder.
> > Â
> > If little educated (who can only get employed here to make a living) Mollas are dangerous with their short cut theories to heaven so is those subservient, parasital, politically appointed or privileged teachers. And this is the truth. Either you are with those poors or with those perpatrators. You are free to choose your option.
> > Â
> > Haque   Â
> > Â
> > (Those fear mongers learnt their lesson from Hitler's policy of creating fear before the onslaught. I do not see the leader who could say to us 'you have nothing to fear but fear itself')
> > Â
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 29/3/09, Akbar Hussain akbar_50@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Akbar Hussain akbar_50@
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Let the truth be said.
> > To: "alochona group" alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 4:14 AM
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[mukto-mona] FW: [khabor.com] Re: Pakistan may collapse in six months

Come on! What you are doing constitutes to just "Uloo Bone Mukta Chorano". No muslims are going to listen to you, except a few who really understand the reality. 99.9999999999999999999% of the muslims are the victims of the religious drug. Islam is the strongest and most deadly religious drug. But all other religions are also nothing but drug, may be a little milder than islam. Anyone who started taking the religious drug, becomes addicted, looses all other abilities of thinking, reasoning, choosing, questioning, trying, attempting, or following. Cure from this drug infestation is rare, no medicine or treatments are available yet.
 
How it happens? Children born to any parents in a neighborhood, community,  or society who practices certain religion, keep providing religious teachings from very young age and so these children get programmed in to the religion. Since these kids did not learn any free thinking, the part of the brain for free thinking never develops. That means all these kids remain for their entire life short of free thinking brain. In addition, they are taught not to depend on their own will, always to depend on the will of GOD, not to believe in any personal achievements, always to depend on the luck written by GOD, not to work for this world, work only for the hereafter. Scripture says, "Addunia Mazraa tul Ukhra (means, this world is the farmland to grow for hereafter)" - is the motto prescribed to follow always. Additionally, they are lured heavily by the instructions that if they follow all religious guidelines, they will go to heaven, under which flows the river of peace, have gardens all around full of sweetest fruits, houses full of so many most beautiful bedmates. But if they do not listen, will be thrown into and burned in the hell fire. This "carrot and stick" theory of luring and scaring, is the basic mosaic of all religions, and it is implanted into the brain of all the kids born to the religious parents, from very childhood very firmly, that drives them for the rest of their entire life. So, all religious people are the victims of this infestation for ever. Millions of mosques, churches, synagogues, mondirs, etc. are dis-servicing the humans in this way for thousands of years. Mullahs, priests, rabbis, pondits, etc. are heavily infiltrating the human minds with religious addictions and taking away the spirit from people the power of developing free thoughts and improving the humanity, and human society overall, the capability of reasonable free thinking.
 
All these groups mentioned in the below e-mail (such as peaceful islam, fundamentalist islam, and militant islam) have the commonality, which is called "Shob Roshuner Gura Ek". Militant Islam is the military wing. Fundamentalist Islam is their Governing body. Peaceful Islam is their common permanent platform and base. Do you see any differences in the character of one group from the other?  You will agree with me with a big "NO". Each group does exclusively the job of its own and support the other groups. Job of militant islamist is to kill the others and achieve shahada and as the reward to go to Jannath "no questions asked" and get at least 70 big eyed hoors and have fun for ever. Job of Fundamentalist Islamist is to issue Sermons and Fatwas to all muslims in order to promote militancy, establish their dreamland of Sharia monarchy over the entire world,  dismantling all other non-sharia states including the present muslim countries (to them muslim country or non-muslim country doesn't matter because by their definition the present muslim countries are not sharia based islamic states, even not Saudi Arabia, and that is why there are terrorist attacks in Saudia too). The reward they expect is probably the same as the militants or may be a little less since their risk is a little less also, probably because they are not as brave as the militants. They do not expect shahada, but of course, the jannath and hoors are heavily expected. The so called peaceful islam is the rest of the other bodies embraciung, as they call Ummah. These are the elements always with "double standards". On on one hand they will say, "Oh! no, we do not want militancy", but on the other hand they will be heavily involved with the religious preachers, follow all religious instructions, spend lavishly towards strengthening the militancy and setting up mosques & madrashas, and from the core of heart love the religion, the mullhs, the militants, and silently dream of establishing the sharia society and state. They have heavy expectations for going to jannath and have numbers of hoors. They are always busy in islamic marketing and shopping around for the hereafter. They will never PROTEST against the ISLAMIC MILITANCY and always silently appreciate, and accept from the core of heart. "MOUNOTA SHMMOTIR LOXHON" towards militancy, mullahs, and sharia, is the basic mindset of the so called "PEACEFUL ISLAM".
  
See an attachment which shows a concerted effort of promoting all religions in general. All the religious people want to take over the others who are not quite in religions. No matter what religion is, but all religions are pushing the world behind toward the primitive stage. Only the contributions from the free thinkers are making a difference for the human society. Had there be no people with free thoughts and adjustments, the world would still remain very primitive.
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:39:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Re: Pakistan may collapse in six months

Militant Islam? Does it mean Islam has various branches 1) peaceful Islam, 2) fundamentalists' Islam and 3) militant Islam.
 
Is not Islam supposed to be one that preaches peace and co-existence of all humans, irrespective of their beliefs?
 
Is it True?
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
In a message dated 3/27/2009 3:25:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, veirsmill@yahoo.com writes:
Where mosque and other Islamic institution been randomly used as training ground for exporting militant Islam in not just in South Asia but to the rest of the world.


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[mukto-mona] FW: State Dinner For Evo Morales, President of Bolivia

   What have I been telling you about Iran being a key component of Obama administration's foreign policy?
 
              About Ahmedinejad -- he is not your garden variety of fundamentalist.
 
             Last Christmas he delivered a moving mesage showing his devotional feelings for Hazrat Isa (Jesus) that would be unthinkable coming out of the Wahhabi Sunni fundamentalists that are making our lives hell in the subcontinent.
 
            Ahmedinejad is crazy as a coote! He was elected as a 'champion of the poor' but has done almost nothing to alleviate dire poverty in pockets of Iranian society. His idiotic comments against Israel delighted the cockles of the hearts of AIPAC and the neo-cons in Bush regime. My Iranian co-activists in 'women against Islamic fundamentalism' swear that poverty and fundamentalism are directly related.
 
             What do you make of these pictures I got sent by a Pakistani forum?
 
             I'll send you an excellent article on American policy changes regarding Iran.
 
 
            -- Farida
 

 


Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:27:56 -0700

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State dinner for Evo Morales, the President of Bolivia .
 

Some pictures say more than a thousand words...

 

These pictures were taken at President Ahmedinejad's state dinner for Evo Morales, the President of Bolivia on a state visit to Tehran

Sitting on the floor and partaking from a common man's meal, Evo does not seem to mind at all. In fact he seems to be having a great time.

And I am sure the hosts paid for the dinner out of their own pockets. I would not be surprised if their wives cooked for them, just to save some tax-payer's money which is considered sacred by Islam.

If only the Pakistani leaders would take pity on the poor, hapless Pakistani nation and show such austerity...

 

 

 
Bolivia's president lands in Iran 
Bolivian President Evo Morales holds a copy of his proposed new constitution, 28 August
Bolivia's president is seeking new allies and overseas investment
Bolivian President Evo Morales has arrived in Iran to discuss trade and closer ties with his Iranian counterpart Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
His visit follows a trip made by Mr Ahmadinejad to La Paz last year, during which he pledged a $1.1bn (£600m) investment in the Andean nation. The trip will be closely watched by the US, which has tense relations with Tehran over its nuclear programme. Mr Morales has also been in Libya, for talks with leader Muammar Gaddafi. Bolivia and Libya recently established diplomatic relations and the two men were expected to sign energy agreements.
Little in common
Mr Morales and his trade delegation were met from the plane at Tehran airport by Iran's Industries Minister Ali Akbar Mehrabian. He was due to meet Mr Ahmadinejad later in the day, Iranian press reported. Bolivia had described the trip as an attempt to reach out to other nations "rejected by the international community". Mr Morales, Bolivia's first indigenous president, described his country and Iran as "two friendly and revolutionary countries" that are strengthening ties.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Iran's president is said to be interested in Bolivia's uranium reserves
In a recent speech, he had said Iran's efforts to provide economic and political backing would "support the peasant struggle in Latin America". Iran's investment will be directed at boosting bilateral economic and agricultural ties, from milk processing plants, to TV and radio stations to funding hydrocarbon and hydroelectric exploration. Reports also suggest Mr Ahmadinejad is interested in Bolivia's reserves of uranium and lithium for use in Iran's nuclear projects.
The growing relationship between the two governments has raised eyebrows amongst Bolivia's right-wing opposition and in the United States - which takes a dim view of Iranian influence in its backyard, the BBC's Andres Schipani in Bolivia says. To some analysts, Iran is seeking to gain geopolitical control in Latin America with the aid of Venezuela's leftist President Hugo Chavez, an unconditional ally of Mr Morales.
Mr Morales has joked on several occasions that he is part of the "axis of evil". But apart from the fact that both presidents are strong critics of the US, analysts say there is very little in common between Mr Morales and Mr Ahmadinejad.
 
 



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   - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do."
   - Voltaire

"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
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[spam] Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Gradual exposure of the hidden face in Bangladesh

The gem of advice is the self-knowledge is realizing the Nur is hidden in plain view, sun's light hide the NUR's at day light and moon's reflected light hide the Nur's at night. And this Nur oscillate every thing such as sun, moon, earths and everything in between. The Nur is being called by many Light[not sun's light or moon's light] or dark matter. And being enlightened by this Nur is self-seeking advices are rarer than gem or rubies. And it will lead to the "straight-path" who seeks it.


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@...> wrote:
Dr. Omar:

Thanks for your kind wishes. Unfortunately, I don't believe that fellow Alochoks are suited to guide me in this process. When it comes to religion, I like to read and guide myself and find my own answers. Somehow, I always find other people's version of the "straight-path" unsuitable for me. Everyone should practice their own version of the "straight-path". That said, I am always appreciative of good advices. As Salman Rushdie said, "Good advices are rarer than rubies".

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[ALOCHONA] India in Asian Geopolitics

India in Asian Geopolitics

By Ashley J Tellis

I am going to (deal with) the subject of "India in Asian Geopolitics" because I want to spend some time focussing on some structural features of the security environment that faces India across the widest possible canvas. I must give you two warnings, however, before I launch into the substance of my presentation. First, I am not going to speak as an American citizen, but merely as an analyst of international politics. I do this because I want to escape the question of my own political commitments in order to better reflect on what I think is a serious problem that confronts both the United States and India together.

Secondly, I want to make what is fundamentally an academic presentation because it is the best means by which to draw out some important policy consequences.  I emphatically do not want to make a conventional "policy" presentation, because that risks proffering essentially a mask that covers my own personal opinions and prejudices. I will end this presentation, certainly, by giving you a flavour of my prejudices. But I will keep that for the end. For the body of my lecture, I want to focus on the substance of what I think is the central challenge of geopolitics today.


I will divide my presentation into four parts: 

The first part will reflect on the current geopolitical environment in Asia and how it is evolving. The second part will describe the current American response to this geopolitical environment. The third part is going to explore the contours of a world that we have not seen before. And, the fourth part will ask the question of what all this means for India and for the United States.

Geopolitical Environment

Let me start by briefly saying a few words about the current geopolitical environment in Asia. If you look at the literature on the prospect of geopolitical changes, you will find that it is rife with all manner of predictions about the onset of multipolarity-that somehow the current international system is going to become multipolar shortly and that the world as we know it today will before long evolve into a new universe of multiple poles. 

My own view is that this argument is profoundly mistaken. The international political system is likely to stay, quite durably, a unipolar system for a long time to come: that is, for at least another twenty or so years, if the statisticians are to be believed. But this reality is going to manifest itself in a world where the centre of gravity is shifting from where it has traditionally been for the last 500 years-Europe-to Asia. Asia will produce close to half, if not half, of the world's economic product by 2025-this is the real emergent change in international politics-but, despite this fact-and this is the element of continuity-the United States will remain the dominant power in the international system for the foreseeable future. 

There are four virtuously interacting reasons that assure the continuing pre-eminence of the United States.

The first reason is that, despite all the skepticism on this score, the United States has demonstrated a capacity to maintain continuing high rates of capital accumulation through a mixture of internal and, more importantly, external resources. The United States is in the very lucky position where the rest of the world is eager to provide it with the financial resources that enable it to sustain its profligate way of life. This is because the dollar still remains the most important global reserve currency and because, at the end of the day, the rest of the world, no matter what its complaints are about the United States, sees the United States as a very desirable destination to park its resources. Furthermore, America's most important trading partners seem embarked on externally-driven growth strategies, which make Washington an even greater beneficiary of their desire to invest in the United States. So even though the United States does relatively poorly in terms of internal capital accumulation, it manages to compensate for these deficits through disproportionate access to the resources of others. 

There is a second reason which enables the United States to stay at the peak of the international system, and that is its continued ability to sustain labour force growth. For those who have survived the fundamentals of neo-classical economics, you will recognise that I am referring to "capital plus labour," which is the magic formula for producing growth. If the United States can continue to import capital from abroad and can continue to maintain the growth of its labour force, if necessary through the immigration of high-value labour at very low political cost, it will have succeeded in meeting the minimal requirements for sustained economic growth. The United States has many advantages here, which few others do. It must be remembered that this is a country of immigrants; it is not threatened by immigrants; it welcomes immigrants and continues to welcome immigrants; all of which essentially implies that the United States can tap into the two great reservoirs that continue to assure its productivity and its pre-eminence.

The third reason is that the United States continues to maintain a very highly effective national innovation system. It maintains this innovation system primarily because it relies on a market economy to make efficient allocation decisions. Further, its large pool of skilled and innovative labour continues to generate numerous inventions and a steady stream of innovation. Equally importantly, the large American private sector and the government contribute very large investments in science and technology and research and development, and the country enjoys a very flexible and highly effective venture capitalist system.

And so between a political structure that essentially permits decisions to be made smartly, a private-public partnership that invests heavily in research and development and science and technology, and a venture capitalist system that produces investible resources to sustain a steady stream of technical change, the United States has an innovation system that clearly is second to none anywhere in the world.

The final element is US military capabilities, which are unparalleled and growing. Anyone who has followed the debates in Europe about America's military capability relative to the capacity of our NATO allies, recognises the fact that the gap in technical sophistication between the United States and Europe is actually widening in terms of conventional precision strike capabilities and the ability to deploy sustainable power projection at long-range. Now, this does not mean that the United States can use its military forces indiscriminately or without blowback. It simply means that the United States has incredible advantages with respect to projecting power and, with it, come greater degrees of political autonomy. Perhaps, the most remarkable element is that the United States maintains these capabilities through a defence budget that is larger than the defence budgets of at least the next fifteen countries in the international system put together, and yet these defence burdens are only about 3% of US GNP.

All these four elements working together - capital accumulation, labour force growth, innovation and military capacity - essentially ensure that in a structural sense, the United States will continue to dominate the international system in the policy-relevant future. This implies that there is no imminent threat to American power, since the most important economic powers in the system are essentially friends or allies of the United States: Japan and South Korea in Asia, and all the NATO/EU countries in Europe. 

Despite this being the case, however, there is no way to avoid the other half of the story: the prospect of new rising powers in the international system, which will continue to remain a matter of concern to the United States. It is in this context that the rise of Asia poses special opportunities and special challenges. It offers special opportunities because it allows the United States to grow and profit from Asian prosperity. But it offers specific challenges as well insofar as it harbours the prospect that certain key Asian states, which continue to grow over a long period of time, could one day become challengers of the United States in the global system. There are four candidates for this role: Russia, Japan, China and India. When you separate the wheat from the chaff, however, it all boils down to just two countries, China and India. The following are the reasons why:

Russia has great latent capacity, but poor social organisation. It has a very weak state and it has terribly predatory elites. The Russians have not made the kinds of investments in national capacities that are necessary to sustain a great power role, and though they continue to have significant technological capabilities, these resources are actually diminishing in terms of long-term investment. And so Russia is likely to end up being a major supplier of primary and military goods, but not a serious geopolitical challenger to the United States as the Soviet Union was in the past.

Japan in contrast has great technical, financial and social-organisational capacity, but a very poor resource and demographic base. The situation confronting Japan today is the same that confronted it prior to 1941: its dependence on an international market for raw materials, energy, and revenue generation limits its capacity for autonomous action. And the experience of the Second World War demonstrated to the Japanese that any attempt to dominate the international system on its own-unconnected to the United States-will be an effort that ends in disaster.

And so we end up with essentially two great countries, China and India. Both are large continental-size states that are latent great powers, but both are still developing in terms of their technical and social-organisational capacities. These are certainly rising powers, but it is important to recognise that their ability to challenge the United States must not be exaggerated.

To begin with, all predications about China overtaking the United States, even in the out years, rely greatly on contestable assumptions or favourable measurements. Further, China, like Japan, is excessively dependent on the international market both for resources and revenue generation, thus limiting its ability to play the challenger at least in the prospective future. Finally, the continuing contradictions  in China's effort to create a market economy married to a command polity leaves us with some uncertainty as to whether the Chinese experience of high growth can be sustained over the long term.

When one looks at China and India together, therefore, there is a clear recognition within the United States that there are sharp differences between these two countries. There is a recognition that China, which is growing more rapidly than India, exhibits a more determined "will to power," and that makes the task of integrating China into the international system a far more difficult challenge than that involving India. Moreover, China and the United States are actually locked into military competition: India and the United States clearly are not. And finally there is that business, the squishy but important business, of values. India and the United States are tied together by a commitment to democratic politics which changes the character of the relationship between our two countries in very dramatic and fundamental ways.

Where does all this leave us? I think it leaves us with three important bottom lines when one thinks about the future geopolitical environment. First, there is no country in Asia at the moment that is close to becoming a consequential geopolitical challenger of the United States, at least where control of the global system is concerned. But such a threat could arise over the long term, and if such a threat does arise, most people would bet that it would emerge from China rather than from Russia, Japan or India. Second, even though there is no true peer competitor that is likely to arise in Asia in the near-term, the United States must be cognizant of the challenges that can be mounted by less-than-comprehensively powerful states. The Soviet Union is the best example in this regard. The Soviet Union was always a unidimensional superpower. And there is no guarantee that, in the future, the United States might not be confronted with another unidimensional superpower. The fact is, whether we like it or not, there is a prospect- not a certainty, but a prospect-of an emerging power transition involving China. And, therefore, dealing with the prospect of a power transition will be the most consequential challenge for the United States in the coming century, even though American dominance is likely to endure for the next two decades.

The American Response

Having said all this by way of a baseline, let me go to the second part of my presentation: How should the United States respond to this challenge? There are three models in international politics that one could imagine as vying for dominance in US policy. The first is the classical realist model associated with Niccolo Machiavelli and his prescriptions in the commentaries on the ten books of Titus Livy. Machiavelli has a very simple solution for dealing with prospective power transitions. He says that when a state is faced with such a challenge, there is only one solution that successful regimes have used historically and that solution is preventive war. And he gives the example of the Romans attacking Greece long before the Greeks were actually strong. Because he says to the Romans who were masters "at seeing inconveniences from afar," and in  recognising that delay only brings more perils, were justified in attacking Greece earlier rather than later. So that is the classical realist prescription: undermine the growth of your rivals by preventive war if necessary.

The second model is the conventional realist model, the model associated with George Kennan and implemented during the Cold War, and that is the strategy of comprehensive containment. This model, in effect, declares: Don't attack your adversaries; don't undermine them; don't try to destroy them, because doing so is costly. Instead, create an iron fence which prevents them from creating trouble for you in any way possible. This is an interesting and attractive ideal, but it has limitations. Its greatest limitation is that it is extremely hard to build a containing coalition when the threat is only prospective and not actual, when the threat is only latent and not imminent.

The third model is the liberal internationalist model, which is associated with Immanuel Kant on the one hand and Norman Angell on the other. The liberal internationalist model essentially asserts that the way to deal with rising powers is either to democratise them, because democracy ensures the creation of pacific union and the absence of war, or Norman Angell would say, increase their economic interdependence because economic interdependence increases the costs of conflict to the point where war becomes impractical.

These three ideas, in various forms, have populated the American debate. And yet none of these three solutions offers self-sufficient strategies for dealing with the challenges we face. And so, what I think the United States has done is to marry both realism and liberalism in another classic example of American exceptionalism, in the process crafting a strategy that has not been followed before. And I'll say a few words about what makes it so unique.  The core of the strategy, fundamentally, is not to push China down but rather to engage it, while simultaneously investing in increasing the power of other states located on its periphery. So unlike the classical realist prescription of undermining China's growth or the conventional realist prescription of containing it, the core of American strategy has been to engage China, not undermine it, but even as Washington engages Beijing, (it is trying) to build a new set of relationships aimed at increasing the power of various countries located along China's borders. This is indeed a unique solution. When the Bush administration announced in March 2005 that the United States was now committed to encouraging the growth of India as a great power, there was a good deal of sceptical commentary both in the United States and in India about the  novelty of this strategy-because it had never been implemented in this form before.  And the critics were right on one count: it has not been the norm historically. But there is a reason why it has not been a favoured strategy in the past-and that is because, in a world that was not tightly interdependent before, containment in various forms was simply cheaper than the current alternative. I will focus more on this issue in the third part of my presentation. But, for the moment, let me just end this second part of my talk by simply laying out for you what the other component parts of the current American strategy are.

The first element, as I mentioned, is to focus on engaging China, not undermining it, while simultaneously strengthening others. The second element is to protect America's capacity for continued innovation, since it is the capacity to innovate that ultimately makes the United States the most important actor in international politics. The third element is to build and preserve the technological basis for maintaining enduring military superiority, and particularly uninterrupted US access to Asia. And, the fourth and final element is to keep our existing alliances in Asia in good repair, while reaching out to new friends and new partners, of which the single most important exemplar for this administration, and likely for every successive administration, will be India.

The critical question, when one looks at this prospectively, is whether this American strategy will be a transitory strategy that evolves into something else or whether it is likely to become a new permanent equilibrium that exists with some durability.

This concern takes me to the third part of my presentation, which is to ask why the United States has adopted such a peculiar strategy. What are the features of the emerging strategic environment that justify the current US approach to managing potential rivalry? This third part of my presentation is really an effort to convey a sense of how we are moving into a global environment.

Exploring the New Contours

Let me start by pointing out what has not changed in international politics. What has not changed in international politics is the fact that relations between states will always remain competitive. That much has not changed. Both Kautilya in the East and Thucydides and Machiavelli in the West have testified to this invariant quality of international politics. The responses of states to international competition have also not changed. All states, when faced with inter-state competition, have responded through a combination of internal balancing, that is, increasing their own resources from within, and external balancing, that is, creating alliances to deal with the emerging threat. This too is abiding. All history is littered with repeated occurrences of these behaviours. However, these strategies worked effectively in the past because what defined the international system previously was the reality of economic autarky. States were essentially not dependent on others for the production of their own prosperity: their interdependence extended to, at most, integration with their allies. And so, all countries were basically more or less self-sufficient universes. The bulk of their economic capabilities, the bulk of their military capabilities, all derived mainly from their own internal capacities-or, at best, through reliance on their allies. In this kind of a universe, you could afford to have strategies that were essentially or purely competitive. You could afford to have strategies that focused on solely on containment, on even on eliminating threats to yourself-in other words, purely competitive strategies.

What has now changed in international politics is this reality called globalisation. This is a phenomenon, which although it has had some reflections in the past, is for most part substantially new. In fact, most scholars agree that what is currently underway is the third wave of globalisation but there is absolutely no doubt that this wave of globalisation is unlike any other that has gone before. How so? It is unlike any other because for the first time in history, economic integration-that is, the comprehensive vertical integration of production and distribution chains-is occurring across the boundaries of states that are nominally geopolitical competitors. Therefore, for the first time in our collective memory, the success of a country in accumulating national power is now dependent not simply on how well it mobilises national resources to create appropriate defensive capabilities vis-à-vis a competitor, or how well it mobilizes national resources through economic integration within its friends, but how well it can generate national resources from the economic relationship it enjoys with a competitor-even as it prepares to use those very resources generated from economic interdependence to cope with the geopolitical rivalry that exists with that competitor.

This is what makes the geo-political environment so different from anything that has gone before. And the two great iconic models are the relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union in the old days, and the prospective relationship between the United States and China in the future. During the Cold War, the United States and the Soviet Union were two separate universes that had no economic connections with one another. Nothing could be more different than the case of the United States and China in the future: if there is to be serious rivalry in this dyad, it will be a rivalry that is deeply embedded in the larger matrix of economic interdependence. It is precisely this reality of interdependence, which is unlikely to disappear any time soon, which justifies the American adoption of the novel strategy that I described a few moments ago.  Let me give you an example that is closer to home. Think of the relationship between India and China during the Cold War, where both countries existed in separate universes, and the relationship that is likely to emerge between India and China in the future, where even if Sino-Indian relations were to degenerate into active competition in some dimensions, it is most likely that this rivalry will be deeply embedded amidst growing economic ties. This means that a globalised world is going to be a very peculiar world. And, the key distinguishing characteristic of this universe will be that a state's economic relations with its rivals will have a critical effect on its ability to produce the political, economic, and military power needed to defend its strategic interests against those very adversaries.

There are important consequences flowing from this fact. Among the most important is that globalisation weakens the traditional concept of what it means to be a political rival. And it undermines the traditional solutions that all states have used historically for dealing with their rivals. The reason this is so is because states are trying to maximise two goals simultaneously, "power" and "plenty." What they need to do to maximise power, however, requires them to jointly pursue with their rivals strategies for securing plenty. And these strategies, in turn, might only deepen the rivalry between these states as each seeks to simultaneously maximise its power. Given that this is the reality we are confronted with, and are likely to be confronted by for at least the next twenty to thirty years, I want to conclude by addressing the fourth part of the outline I had referred to earlier: what does this mean for India (and for the United States)?

India-US Dilemma

The most important point I want to make in this regard is that we are entering a new and complex era. We are confronted prospectively by two open geopolitical futures. The first is a world where security competition grows, but is embedded in economic relationships that become ever tighter. This leads to an attenuation of the threats, but the threats never quite disappear. There is, however, an alternative world where the globalisation of the last fifty years simply collapses because of some event that taxes the adjustment capacity of the international system, as previous episodes of globalisation did-and we end up essentially in a new phase of more or less traditional geopolitical competition or another Cold War. These are the two universes that confront us: a future where what we see as the years go by will be a deeper variation of what we see in the present, or a breakdown in the current trends and their replacement by new forms of acute competitiveness. The problem from the viewpoint of policymaking in India and the United States is that we do not know which of these two futures will eventually win out. And therefore we confront two specific problems: how do we make sound strategic policy when we do not know which future is going to materialise? And second, how do we avoid the problem of self-fulfilling prophecies, where in an effort to protect our security we may end up undermining our economic growth, or in our effort to protect our prosperity we end up increasing our own geopolitical vulnerability? This is the dilemma that confronts both India and the United States. And I have some bad news for you here. This dilemma is fundamentally insoluble because the simultaneous maximisation of power and plenty is, strictly speaking, impossible in a globalised world. Therefore, when people say that  India should maintain its highest rates of economic growth, and acquire the most effective military capabilities possible, and deepen its relationships with friendly states in the international system, this is sound advice-no question about it. But, the challenge will lie in implementing such advice because, in the current international system, all bilateral relations between the great powers (and I include India in my definition of great powers), are going to be in a state of continuous, reflexive, and omni-directional re-equilibration. This dynamic of perpetual motion will obtain because any improvement in the character of the relationships within a given dyad will provoke competitive effort at improving relations by other states with each member of the original dyad because no one wants to be left out of what is an emerging virtuous circle. Since this process, however, will always produce uncertainties about who is gaining and by how much, and to what ends these gains are oriented,  the dynamism of this process will always become hostage to competing pulls and to alternating bouts of integration and dissipation.

In this context, how does one pursue sound policies when the differences between friend and competitor are defined not by type but only by degree? And how does India pursue an optimal strategy when the very forces that increase its prosperity could also contribute towards increasing the dangers that confront it? This question is particularly relevant because interdependence not only increases the wealth and welfare of all partners but also increases their material capability to harm one another. Since there is no solution that allows a country to secure all the benefits that accrue to prosperity while simultaneously minimising all the threats that ensue from growth, India is likely to face continuing tension as it works out its national security policies amidst the growing realities of interdependence over the next few decades. I want to flag, in this regard, three particular sets of tensions that are very important for us to appreciate.

First, India, like the United States, will not have the freedom to pursue simple and clear strategic policies, but only complex and ambiguous ones. This is going to drive many people crazy because policies that are characterised by subtlety will leave no single constituency, domestic or foreign, completely satisfied. These policies will invariably be policies of the "second-best," where the most a country can do is to "satisfy" not "maximise" its objectives. This reality will apply as much to India as it will to the United States.

Second, India, like the United States, has to perform a delicate juggling act which involves developing deep and collaborative ties with a set of friends that are likely to be of the greatest assistance to itself, while at the same time seeking to pursue some minimal levels of interdependence with its competitors. And while interdependence with its competitors is important, because of the need to give one's competitors a stake in one's prosperity, developing stronger ties with one's friends becomes even more important. This hinges, of course, on a very sophisticated judgment of who has the capacity and who has the intention to levy the greatest harm. And when one's friends and enemies are arrayed by these criteria, it is likely that they will be distinguished not by distinct differences of category but rather by location across a spectrum. And India, like the United States, will have to make its strategic decisions based on where its partners stand along that spectrum. There is a canon of sound geopolitics that still applies in this context: those who are the most powerful and the furthest away can be one's best friends. The implications of this proposition ought not to be lost sight of in India.

Third, India, like the United States, will need to develop the organisational and the psychological capacity for diplomatic, political and strategic agility because an increasingly globalised world will confront both countries with the need for perpetual flexibility, reflected in continual, albeit incremental, course corrections. Because neither country is going to have the luxury of pursuing policies that are utterly transparent or completely straightforward-as would be the case if a Cold War was inevitable-both New Delhi and Washington will have to develop the institutional and psychological capacity to move deftly. Whether India can develop these traits and domesticate them remains to be seen. But the next two or three decades-while the global system is still in evolution and while the United States continues to dominate it while remaining a friend-will provide ample opportunities for India to put these capacities in place.

Let me say one other thing. Political agility is highly prized by diplomats. It is absolutely detested by democracies, because democracies want certainty, stability, and consistency of policy so as to meet the test of public legitimisation. And both India and the United States thus have a common challenge, of developing the capacity for strategic agility, the ability to move quickly and responsively to changing interests, despite the fact that there will be a wide variety of public constituencies constantly calling the political leadership in both countries to the bar to explain the rationale for these "constant shifts of policy."

Let me end by putting my personal prejudices on the table as I promised I would at the beginning of this presentation. I did not want to make this lecture yet another invocation for the necessity of a strong US-India relationship because I have done that many times in the past. What I hoped to do was to describe the character of the international environment in such a way that it would leave you with no choice but to draw the conclusion that a tight US-India relationship is very much in both our interests. I hope I have succeeded in that purpose.

Ashley J Tellis is Senior Associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

http://www.indiandefencereview.com/2008/08/use-of-irregulars-bane-for-the-pakistan-army.html



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