[mukto-mona] Re: Allah confused

--- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "sarmabb2008" wrote:
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>erm the story abt adam getting banished frm heaven wsnt anything but "hidden".truth is truth nd religious scriptures, of all things dont "hide" things frm children.
and heaven is abt eternal abode fr those who were rightful on earth.so god will reward dem whichever way he feels suitable.
really no confusion here.

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[ALOCHONA] PEELKHANA MASSACRE:Credibility of government is at stake

PEELKHANA MASSACRE:Credibility of government is at stake Sadeq Khan A New Nation report on CID investigation of the Peelkhana massacre by Mamunur Rashid dated March 31, 2009 claimed: "The law enforcement agencies found some ruling party leaders' direct conversations with the BDR mutineers over mobile phone after examining the mobile phone call lists of the detained BDR jawans.    The law enforcement agencies identified the names which are Home Minister Sahara Khatun, State Minister for Local Government and Rural Development (LGRD) and Cooperatives Jahangir Kabir Nanak, Awami League leader Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir, Dhamnondi-Hazaribagh MP Barrister Fazlee Noor Taposh and Mirza Aza.    Law enforcement agencies investigated the mobile numbers of more than 35 BDR personnel. At least 10 BDR personnel had talked to the ruling party leaders over mobile phone. And 5 detained BDR personnel confessed to the law enforcement agencies that they held talks with one MP and another former MP about their demands. BDR Jawan Salim reportedly talked to MP Taposh at about 11: 00 am on the day of occurrence.    Investigation officers of the BDR mutiny preferring anonymity told the New Nation that they found names of the AL leaders and BDR personnel after verification from the mobile phone operators."        Incriminating evidence    A follow-up report in the New Nation dated 10 April 2009 revealed: "The investigators tasked with probing the carnage at the Peelkhana BDR headquarters in February are learnt to have pointed their fingers at some rising leaders of Awami League for their possible involvement in the brutal mayhem. Sources said that LGRD state minister Jahangir Kabir Nanak, Jubo League general secretary Mirza Azam MP and former state minister Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir MP had several rounds of talks with renegade BDR members before and after the mutiny which cost the lives of 54 army officers from general to captain. Detained BDR deputy assistant director Towhid reportedly told the investigators these three AL MPs had overt and covert contacts with some of the BDR mutineers."    A blogger responded to the report next day on dhakamails@yahoogroups.com with the comment:    "It possibly is the first time in the history of the world that national government is involved in the massacre of its own military officers. The party is a criminal party."    On April 13, a special correspondent of the vernacular daily Amar Desh filed a graphic report as follows: "On 22 February, three days before the mutiny, a delegation of 15 BDR mutineers along with a civilian associate talked to the Home Minister Sahara Khatun on phone and left a memorandum of their demands with her assistant private secretary. This group of BDR personnel visited three times the Bailey Road residence and also the Imperial Hotel at Farm Gate run by her elder brother, from where recently two hotel residents were arrested by RAB with fake currency notes and counterfeiting equipments. The group had earlier on 13 February met the Awami League Presidium Member Sheikh Selim. The group included Sepoy Moin, Sepoy Kajol and Sepoy Selim. All this has been revealed by mutineers questioned by the Task Force Interrogation Cell.    On February 25, Sepoy Moin and Sepoy Kajol went into the Darbar Hall with arms procured from the security guard of DG, BDR. They were entrusted with the task of shooting the Director General and the Deputy Director General of the BDR respectively. But they got unnerved and failed, while the attending BDR personnel ran out of the Hall.        Killings began at 10:45    At around 10.20 a.m. Sepoy Selim took the megaphone and called on the army officers to "come one by one" out of the hall surrounded by trigger-happy mutineers. Some time after, the DG, the DDG, the sector commanders and other army officers in the Darbar Hall came out in single line. At 10.27 a.m. the RAB Intelligence Branch Director Lt. Col. Majid talked on phone with hostage Colonel Inshad. Both the DG and Col. Inshad were alive at that time, the interrogators found. Surviving army officers from the carnage had earlier confirmed that the killing started some time between 10.45 a.m. and 11 a.m. This belies the claim to journalists by the minister-coordinator of investigations Col. Faruk Khan that Peelkhana massacre was executed already by 10 a.m. that day.    On the s.o.s advice of Col. Gulzar, a RAB team of 300 men reached the Peelkhana gate at 10 a.m. fully prepared to storm the Darbar Hall and free the hostages. They were refused permission to act by official orders from the top. This contradicts the Prime Minister's statement in the parliament that RAB team was delayed by traffic jam and the army would have needed two hours to reach the trouble spot. In fact TV channels showed army units present and battle-ready all around Peelkhana between 11 and 11.30 a.m. that day."    Whither Anis Commission?    None of these reports have been contradicted. The progress of investigation also appears to be going on at snails pace. Particularly, the public enquiry led by former bureaucrat Anisuzzaman Khan appears to be defunct, with the minister-coordinator of the investigative bodies beating about the bush with speculative spins fed to the media. Concerns about a proper enquiry are being voiced by sober analysts in the foreign media as well. Somini Sengupta writing in New York Times on 14 March, 2009 observed: "Two separate investigations are under way: one by the army, another by Mrs. Hasina's government. Whether either will yield credible results or whether their findings will be consistent is unknown. Mrs. Hasina's fate and the stability of the country depend on a satisfactory resolution. .....    Her face-off with the army came into sharp focus three days after the mutiny ended when she confronted an unusually rowdy room of army officers. They berated her for not allowing the army to take charge early on. The screaming match was recorded and put up on YouTube."    Former Indian army chief and former Indian parliamentarian General Shankar RoyChowdhury added insult to injury in his comments in Asian Age on 24 March, published simultaneously from Calcutta, Delhi and London. He extricated India from suspicions about "foreign" involvement in the mutiny, but left no consolation for Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in his analysis, if read between the lines. In a nutshell, he opined: "Three parallel inquiries have been instituted into the events of those fateful 33 hours at the BDR's Pilkhana headquarters, to determine the causes, sequence and responsibility for the outbreak. The first is by the Bangladesh government, the second by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of the Dhaka police and the third by the Army.    "All indications are that the BDR mutiny was a well-organised pre-planned manoeuvre to traumatise and unbalance Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and her fledgling government. Is there a foreign hand? If so, it is highly unlikely to be India.    "Sheikh Hasina is known to be well-disposed towards India, something that would be anathema to many in the political, legislative, administrative and more significantly, the military and intelligence echelons of Bangladesh, where, as in Pakistan, political power frequently flows from the barrel of the gun.     "In one perspective, the war in Bangladesh between India and Pakistan never really ended on December 16, 1971, but continued thereafter as a 'Great Game' between the protagonists to retain Bangladesh within their respective spheres of influence. Round one went to India with the military victory in East Pakistan in 1971, the creation of Bangladesh and the installation of Sheikh Mujib as its founding Prime Minister. He was accepted as India's prot�g�, but his assassination within three years and the signal failure of India's external intelligence services to detect, warn and protect Bangabandhu was viewed in some quarters as a substantial defeat of India's policies and, by implication, a victory for the 'other side'. The violent, tortuous course of politics in Bangladesh thereafter does not lend itself to easy or coherent encapsulation.     "The sepoy mutiny sounds like the opening bell for the next round of the 'Great Game', to destabilise the government and replace the India-friendly government of Ms Hasina. Meanwhile, even as a concerned Bangladesh awaits the outcome of the three inquiries, the "Great Game" continues. But alas, too easily and all too often Bangladesh keeps slipping off New Delhi's radar screen. This must not be allowed to happen now."        A curt response    A curt response to General Chowdhury's hegemonic assertions came from an expatriate Bangladeshi on dahuk@yahoogroup.com as follows: "Sheikh Hasina should extricate herself from the Great Game by letting the wolves of TFI tear apart all suspects behind the massacre. It should make no difference if they are her own cabinet members or parliamentary office-holders, and it should make no difference whether they took the cue from shadowy controls seeking to pressurise Bangladesh Prime Minister warning her not to slip off Delhi's radar. It should make no difference if they were diabolically manipulated by the other side. May Allah infuse Sheikh Hasina with that sagacity and strength of mind when she performs umrah next week."    Interestingly, an article in the Daily Telegraph of Calcutta quoted a book review in a Bangladeshi newspaper advising Bangladesh's new government to "adopt a more cautious attitude to New Delhi since our own history shows that a two-thirds majority in parliament is no guarantee of longevity or permanence in power especially when deeply held views about our national interest are constantly and arrogantly offended". The article concluded: "Expectations that the new government would move quickly on matters that concern India may be premature." Wishful or tendentious statements apart, a most poignant and cautionary analysis of Bangladesh situation has come from Freedom House, New York in its dispatch dated 24 March 09.        Freedom House on Peelkhana    Freedom House was founded in 1941 by prominent Americans concerned with the mounting threats to peace and democracy. Eleanor Roosevelt and Wendell Willkie served as Freedom House's first honorary co-chairpersons. Its dispatch observed:    "The Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) mutiny has a myriad of implications for Bangladesh. Not only is it a security threat to the state, but it reflects the troubled civil-military relations that have plagued the nation since its independence.    "The BDR has a rich history and tradition, .... as a professional force dating back to 1795 when the British East India Company formed the Ramgarh Local Battalion, and as the East Pakistan Rifles it fought with great gallantry in 1971 during the war of independence against Pakistan.    "The BDR's continued status as a paramilitary force has two advantages for the state. As it is controlled by the Ministry of Home Affairs it represents a significant military asset not controlled by the army - already rumours are rife that the mutiny was engineered by Sheikh Hasina to rid the BDR of its army officers, and so create a private army for her. As a separate issue, the BDR's role in guarding Bangladesh's border with India is a highly contentious issue as there are frequent skirmishes between the BDR and India's Border Security Force (BSF). Stories of the BSF's incursions into Bangladesh are ubiquitous in the local press. .... These are sources of serious problems between the two nations, but the BDR's and BSF's statuses as a paramilitary forces provide insulation against involving their respective militaries proper - potentially leading to full-scale war.    "The military has a history of taking control when civilian incompetence begins to severely threaten the state, not always with the disapproval of the populace. Indeed, the January 2007 army-backed takeover from the previous civilian government was met with widespread gratitude by citizens tired of feuding politicians. Under the latter's aegis corruption had risen to crippling levels. .... Essentially, a military that sees civilian governments as breeding corruption to such an extent as to endanger the state is a military over which it is difficult to assert civilian control. Sheikh Hasina is certainly an embodiment of this fear.    "The current crisis, coming so soon after the return of a truly independent civilian government will be incredibly frustrating for the military establishment, whose fears have been confirmed once again. Besides the momentary collapse of Bangladesh's borders, allowing free rein for smugglers, many of the BDR fled once the army were deployed against them, removing heaps of weapons and military grade explosives. They were followed by local criminal groups who likewise looted the various BDR compounds, and it is feared that these weapons will be sold on the black market to Bangladesh's Islamist groups.    Sheikh Hasina's government needs to move quickly to fulfil its duties and gain the public's confidence. Given Bangladesh's staggering array of social, economic, and political challenges, this fluidity regarding the most basic facets of governance bodes poorly for policy coherence going forward." http://www.weeklyholiday.net/front.html#01

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[mukto-mona] FW: There Should Be Rights For All : All Minorities Should Get rights--Editorial , Asia Post, dated 16.4.o9

 

There Should Be Rights For All : All Minorities Should Get Rights

BBC Arabic Service has reported that underlying tensions between Sunni and Shia in the Middle East have escalated to full-scale crises in the past few years in countries such as Iraq, Lebanon, Bahrain, and, most recently, in Saudi Arabia. Although they only represent 15% of the overall Saudi population of more than 25 million, Shia are the dominant population, according to the International Crisis Group, in key towns such as Qatif, Dammam, and al-Hasa, which are home to the largest oil fields and processing and refining facilities. In February, clashes between Shia Muslims and the religious police in Madina, Islam's second holiest city, triggered a wave of unrest, resulting in the arrest of dozens of people. Tensions were eased by King Abdullah's decision to release all the detainees .. In 1913 King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud, founder of the kingdom, promised Shia safety and freedom of worship when their representatives swore allegiance to his government. But Tawfik al-Saif, a Saudi political activist, told the BBC that he does not think the promises were honoured. "There are lots of problems each of which has the potential to trigger unrest. However, the Saudi elite, both the Shia and Sunni, is determined to stop public disorder whether motivated by internal or external agents." Mr Saif believes that only if the government introduces wide-reaching political and social reforms can long-term stability be achieved. Shias want equal opportunities in government and the military as well as freedom of worship. They want to be able to build their own mosques, have their civil courts granted more power and to print their own religious books. Arabia have not been able to avoid the effects of instability in the region. .     . Shia liberals, including left-wing intellectuals, are a relatively small minority within their community and are far less organised than the Islamists. Nevertheless, religious activists have combined with their liberal coreligionists, as well as Sufis, to call for more respect for human rights in Saudi Arabia. In its report, entitled The Shia Question in Saudi Arabia, the International Crisis Group said that King Abdullah, widely believed to have been at the forefront of efforts to engage Shia and promote their integration, may now be in a position to effect greater change. But the leaders of a newly established opposition movement, Khalas (Deliverance), say that during the past 15 years there have been plenty opportunities for the government to reform its policy towards the Shia but they have been found wanting. Dr Fouad Ibrahim, a Saudi activist based in London, says the recent murmurings in the Eastern Province could be described as a manifestation of disappointment among Shias who have waited for promised reforms for so long. "Activity by the opposition both at home and abroad are clear indications of the need for change and for an end to deeply rooted grievances which the Shias have suffered," Dr Ibrahim told BBC. Dr Ibrahim says the Saudi government has failed to integrate the Shia with other minorities, including the Ismaili community in the South and Sufis in the Hijaz. But Mr Saif believes that while the Shia want an end to discrimination they are committed to negotiating a settlement to their grievances.   We believe in human rights and religious rights every where.Violation of rights is not monopoly of one nation, it is there lmost everywhere.Shia-Sunni division is there everywhere .It is an old division. We can not  change their belief, this is historically there. The differences are relatively minor.We hope the present Abdullah regime is more conscious of modern realitied.It is in the best interest of Islam and Muslims to bring  more democratic change and give all rights and opportunity of participation in all affairs

 

 

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Re: [Sonar Bangladesh] RE: [mukto-mona] Allah confused or we are confused

Your e-mail clearly proofs that Allah / heaven is actually not confused rather you are totally confused as you don't know what to ask, when to ask, whom to ask & why to ask. We think ourself as modern, smart people but donot know about our limitation. Pls note only he is smart if someone knows about his limitation, his reality, his real position, his destination & objective of his life. ISLAM gives all answer of this questions & other than ISLAM you will not find these answers, so sometimes we think people are smart by looking, by sepaking english & by doing actions but actually he is not smart as he is not aware about his present situation, his limitation, from where he comes, why he comes & what is his destination. Would request brother to study about ISLAM in more details before asking such silly question & to be smart in thinking & approach towards this life (as we have got only one chance to be in this world & after death we will have to face
the reality whether we want to accept or not). 

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:

From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: [Sonar Bangladesh] RE: [mukto-mona] Allah confused
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "islamcity@yahoogroups" <islamcity@yahoogroups.com>, inquisitivesisters@yahoogroups.com, sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:49 PM

 
I am utterly confused. It is not about Allah, but about the heaven. They say as many as 70 wife-like women would be given for each pious man in the heaven. But what the pious man would do with them ?
We know Adam, the earliest and hence dearest person of the original god was kicked out from the heaven for doing something with Hawa bibi (For children this act is written as "eating a contra-banned fruit by the name Gandam". The adults and religious experts know it was narrated in this way only to hide the truth from the children).

Now if Adam, one of the best man gets such treatment from the original god for doing that act in the divine heaven only once, who on earth can be so fool to expect that the same god would allow that act to happen in his sacred heaven ?

Yours etc.
Bijon B. Sarma

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[mukto-mona] Shubha Nababarsha -- from Parabaas, plus new translation...

Hi,

First, a very happy Bengali New Year to you all, from all of us at Parabaas.

Also, check out:
http://parabaas.com/translation/database/translations/essays/pBankimchandra_tiger.html

Tiger-Savant Long-Tail (Byaghracharya Brihallangul), a satire by Bankimchandra Chattopadhyay, translated from Bangla by Sudeshna Kar Barua:
"Mr. President Sir, Tigresses and Honourable Tigers!

In my first speech I had made a commitment that I would be delivering a lecture on the human matrimonial system and on some other topics as well. Keeping one's promise is the primary duty of the civilized. So, without further ado, I shall come to the subject directly. ..."

Illustrated by "Banbhatta".

Again, with all the wishes for the New Year,

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[ALOCHONA] THE MYSTERY VISIT

THE MYSTERY VISIT : Why couldn't Menon wait for nextDelhi govt.? M I Ali Last week Shiv Shankar Menon, the Indian Foreign Secretary, came on an unannounced and unscheduled visit to Bangladesh. This is the first of its kind and supposed to be indicative of the close relationship that the Awami League government enjoys with its super power wannabe neighbour India.    This relationship is now so close that the Indian Foreign Secretary did not feel the need to go through the formality of making formal announcements. It must be noted here that such unannounced visits to 'friendly' countries is not a new phenomenon; US and NATO officials regularly visit Iraq and Afghanistan unscheduled and unannounced.    It seems that there must have been an urgent need for a high Indian official to visit Bangladesh, a visit that could not have been put off for a later date. The parliamentary elections have just started in India and will go on for over a month ending in mid May. So what could the urgency be? Definitely not to invite a delegation from Bangladesh to inspect the Tepaimukh project in North Eastern India which will deny water to the central and north eastern part of this country, or to exchange pleasantries with political leaders.    The incumbent Indian government is on its way out and a new government will take over in the next couple of months, the Indian Foreign Secretary therefore could not have been on a routine visit during this period of transition in that country.    The Director General of BDR has returned from India after meeting his counterpart in the BSF to discuss cooperation between them. Routine visits would have to wait for the outcome of the Indian parliamentary elections which will install a new government in order to be qualified as routine. Some emergency situation must have presented itself to warrant the urgent unannounced visit of the Foreign Secretary and in the absence of any credible explanations from either India or Bangladesh, one is left to speculate the possible reasons for the visit.        Excusive meeting    First is the nearly one hour exclusive meeting between the Indian Foreign Secretary and the Prime Minister of Bangladesh. It is indeed highly unusual for a Foreign Secretary of another country to have an exclusive meeting with our Prime Minister. Such an official's exclusive meeting should have been the preserve of the Foreign Secretary of our country. Even a one-to-one meeting with the Foreign Minister would have raised some eyebrows; but such a meeting with the Prime Minister has definitely caused a stir among the people.    The Indian Foreign Secretary then had a similar meeting with the Chief of Army Staff of Bangladesh Army. This is indeed highly unusual. This leads one to wonder what could not wait until the new Indian government to take office, speculators would point their fingers to one direction only.    The reports of the BDR investigation committees are due to come out before the new Indian government takes office. There are two reports on the BDR that are due to be released. One is the much delayed report of the Committee set up by the government, the submission of whose report has been twice delayed for reasons known only to the Government and the other is the one conducted by the Bangladesh Army. The later report is unlikely to be made public but an official report will be there nonetheless, for the posterity. Was the Indian Foreign Secretary here on a cover-up mission? The nation would definitely want to know the truth. Menon's Dhaka mission M. Shahidul Islam Nothing happens out of the blue, excepting miracles, so believe conscientious humans.    The sudden visit to Dhaka on April 13-14 of the Indian foreign secretary, Shiv Shankar Menon has given rise to a lot of suspense and wild speculations.    Suspense in politics, however, often ends up in misery, unless pre-empted in time. The same opinion was rendered by Aristotle who, in his epic composition, Poetics, wrote that suspense would end up either in danger, or in happiness.    The tragic BDR massacre occurred on the heel of a suspense-ridden environment, following wild fear stirred by some politicians in the parliament and outside about alleged torture in the DGFI custody of some politicians during emergency rule.    Accompanied by the composition on January 18�of a special committee to render opinion in the validity of the immediate past CG - and the submission of a draft version of the committee report on February 16 - the dreadful suspense entered a phase of climax. Then, barely a week passed by, when an unprecedented rebellion in the BDR managed to kill nearly 60 skilled military officers, ranging from the rank of Captain to Major General.        Forewarning ignored    With the grace of reflections we can confidently say now that, such a tragic thing could only occur in Bangladesh. As a nation, we not only suffer from forgetfulness, we're also myopic.    Had that not been the case, how the BDR rebellion could have occurred despite our clearest hints only 5 days ago, in the February 20 issue of Weekly Holiday (Civil-military relations enter murky patch).    The broader strategy involving the fate of Bangladesh is being implemented by phases. Now that the spotlight is being carefully shifted from the BDR tragedy to the removal of Khaleda Zia from her legitimately owned house, and to the bogey of Islamic militancy, we once again are scared to the hilt by the ongoing deflections and deceptions.    What really prompted India's external affairs secretary to land in Dhaka on surprise whirlwind tour on April 12? Not only the visit took place amidst Delhi's mammoth preoccupation with the preparation for a general election, sources say there was no mention of such a visit in the official schedule of the Bangladesh PM whom the Indian foreign secretary hurriedly met first, breaching diplomatic protocol, upon arrival in Dhaka.    "It is really unusual. I have never come across such a surprise visit. Visit by India's external affairs secretary, of course, warrants some preparations," said Shamsher Mubin Chowdhury, a former foreign secretary and an Ambassador. "Only the government can say better why it was kept secret," he added.    Chowdhury also expressed surprise about Menon's planned meeting with the army chief and the breaching of protocol nuances in the context of a democratic dispensation that Bangladesh claims to have.    Besides, the arrival of the Indian foreign secretary was kept in such a seamless wrap that, "not only the media, officials in the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) and the foreign ministry were unaware of Menon's possible visit," reported a daily newspaper.    It was also learnt that Menon's meeting with the PM that began at 7.30 PM on April 13 at her official residence, Jamuna, was hurriedly included in the PM's schedule at the last moment.    A foreign ministry official said he came to know about the visit "after Menon's arrival to Dhaka" while the First Secretary (Information) of the Indian High Commission, Dipak Mittal, told UNB that it was part of regular consultations with government of a neighbouring and friendly country, nothing beyond that."    Finally, in a desperate bid to stop speculative headlines to turn things worse, Menon tried to dispel the unease by saying, "We meet regularly. We don't have a set schedule. We meet whenever we feel like. It is part of the ongoing dialogue on various issues between the two countries." http://www.weeklyholiday.net/front.html#02

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[mukto-mona] Re: Fwd: Minor Hindu Boy Coverted to Islam, Law enforcement agencies sided with the Islamists!

This piece of information points to an ominous sign, and that is suicide bombing. It appears to me that this defenseless boy has been indoctrinated into a suicide squad. It will be a serious mistake on the part of the Law and Order Department if this ominous sign is overlooked as it is just another disposable life.

Jiten Roy

-- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "Sitangshu Guha" wrote:
>
> **
>
> *Sonatan International Foundation (SIF)*
>
> * To Protect Human Rights through Knowledge*
>
> Ref: sip/sif/2004.ga/4/10
> Dated:
> April 10, 2009
>
> *Dear Sir,*
>
> Subject: *Save the innocent poor boy *
>
> We are one of the promising organization registered under the societies act
> 1860, the name of our organization is *Sonatan International
> Foundation*(SIF) a philanthropic NGO working for protecting the human
> rights and
> shelter for our distressed community people through academic knowledge.
>
> With this regards, we are very much anxious to the specific issue of Shahbag
> Police Station GD no. 367. date 7.4.2009 (7th April) CMM court, honorable
> magistrate Ms. Shamima Parvin, Court no. MM-13
>
> A very poor boy of around 13 (Thirteen) years old namely, *Poresh Chandra
> Sarker* (Father- Krishna Chandra Sarker, Mother- Fulon Rani, Vill- Kadoir,
> PO- Shamgram, Union Porishod- Solimgonj, Thana- Nobinagar, Dist-Brahmin
> Baria, Father's Cell No. 01732889054) working in a hotel named Bismillah
> Hotel, Proprietor- Hamdu Mia, 44,Toyenbee Circular Road, Ramna, Dhaka.
>
> While he was working in the hotel as a child labour due to poverty, Hamdu
> Mia came to know about the helpless condition of the boy (Poresh Chandra
> Sarker) and with the help of some Maolanas of a madrasha intentionally &
> illegally converted this immature boy to a Muslim from Sanatan Religion
> (Hindu) and kept him in the Madrasha Custody apart from his parents contact.
>
>
> After lot of searching finally from the clue of a letter sent through GPO
> Dhaka on 25.04.2008 by Poresh Chandra Sarker (Received by his father on
> 10.09.2008 along with Taka 4000.00) accordingly father Krishna Chandra
> Sarker come in contact with Mr. Baten a GPO officer of Dhaka. Mr. Baten
> informed to Krishna Chandra Sarker that he know the trace of his son and
> said you might get back your son if your family convert to Muslim religion.
>
> Krishna Chandra Sarker tried all by his means to contact with his son and
> failed and filed a GD no. 1498 on 26.10.2008 with Paltan Police Station.
>
> Accordingly Sub-Inspector (SI) of police station of Paltan- Mohammed Karim
> arrested Hamdu Mia & Poresh and handed over them to shahbagh police station
> (as the incident took place in the territory of Shahbag Police Station)
>
> Krishna Chandra Sarker was present on that day (26.10.2008) in shahbag
> Police Station up to late night 2.00 am with his relatives and humbly
> request to the police authority, Hamdu Mia, Maolana of Medical Madrasa
> (Adjacent to Matri Mongol Medical, Matuail Road, Police Station- Kodomtoly,
> Dist- Dhaka), and all the people are present that place to get back his son
> but he and his relatives was forced out from the said police station without
> giving bail his innocent son after late night 2.00 am
>
> Unlawfully Shahbag Thana realized Poresh & Hamdu Mia, stating "as there is
> no charge against these two person so they have been handed over to there
> reltives and guardians" vide GD no. 1414 time 22.30 pm date 26.10.2008 that
> but police officers failed to show to whom they handed over Poresh further.
>
>
> It proves that intentionally the officer of Shahbag Police Station did not
> handover Poresh to his parents. It seems that the concerned officer might
> have connection with the discriminents. We assume that this type of people
> might have connection with the fundamentalist terrorist group. The lawyers
> of the case are in doubt that this innocent boy already took training from
> terrorist camp some where like Bagmara. He has been trained to keep shut
> himself under any circumstances.
>
> After that day on the victim (Poresh Chandra Sarker) was in search, one day
> he was compelled to contact with his father Krishna Chandra Sarker over
> telephone and said "We have sacrifice our life to establish the law of Allah
> in the world, and don't try to find out me....." (Allahar Ain Prothistha Korar
> Jonno ejibon utshorga koriachi Amar Khoj Korio na)
>
> According to the further proceedings of the father the son was brought to
> the court of honorable magistrate Ms. Shamima Parvin, MM court no.13, Dhaka
> on 07.04.2009 unfortunately ignoring the age of the victim and submission of
> the lawyer of Krishna chandra sarker disclose Her intention in the open
> court to send back the boy to the Madrasa again instead of handovering the
> boy to his parents. According to the objections of the lawyers She send the
> boy to Jail Hajat (Safe Custody) instead of treating the case as Juvenile
> court and denied to send the boy child development center. She will provide
> his verdict on April 13.2009.
>
> In this circumstances there is sufficient justification that the poor
> parents will not get proper justice in this regard. Therefore we beg to draw
> the attention of all concerned people to extend their cooperation from their
> own position. To save the boy, his family and his religion.
>
> Anticipating for your positive response
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> –
>
> *(Prof. Nikhil Chandra Paul)*
>
> Chairman
>
> Sanatan International Foundation
>
> Cell: 00801552367973, 00801911012249,
>
> Email: sonafound@...; sonatan.international.foundation@...;
>
> Encl: *Application of Krishna Chandra Sarker to Inspector General of Police.
> *
>
> *Liaison Office: *House: G-55, Chairman Bari, West Dhanmondi, Dhaka 1205.
>
> *Contact:* 088 01552367973, 088 01911012249
>
> *e-mail :* <sonafound@...> or <
> sonatan.international.foundation@...>
>

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RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: [dhakamails] Minister or Monster??!!

BNP JAMAATI CADER MR SHAH
By saying some one "Look very ugly" you are violating international "Anti racism act" and "Equal opportunity act." 
How she look like,it does not matter for us. As a Awami Minister she is doing very well. She is the
most successful Agriculture Minister of bangladesh
                                                                                                                                                                                                      
 She may call a bastard to ur baba Gulam Azam,
but not her father of Nation. Tell ur mum,she may believe it, but people of Bangladesh never believe
it. I am sure you are not a real rajakar but you are a son of rajakar or a NOBBO RAJAKAR. So can I ask,
how old was you in 1972? Which news paper wrote it? Do you have a copy of that news paper? If not,
Stop lying.
 
Regards
J.A.Chowdhury
 

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To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: shossain456@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:31:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Fw: [dhakamails] Minister or Monster??!!

Definitely She was your Ogni Kanna. If you you go back to 1972-75 time line and read the news papers, you will not find a place to hide your face the way she battered Sheikh Mujib calling him from bastard to whatever nasty she could thought of. I personally saw the news clip on Khaleda's house. She really looked very ugly.

SH

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From: J.A. Chowdhury <Chwdhury@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:02:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw: [dhakamails] Minister or Monster??!!

She is the best agriculture minister we have ever got in Bangladesh. She can protest against unlawfully allotment of Kheleda's 300 core govt asset.
That why she is our "agni konna".
 
Motia tumi ageyea cholo, Amra asi tumar shate
 
Jai Bangla
 

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:35:00 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fw: [dhakamails] Minister or Monster??!!

the acting of matia is like a ferocous beast.   --- On Fri, 4/10/09, Nayan Khan <udarakash08@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Nayan Khan <udarakash08@ yahoo.com> Subject: [dhakamails] Minister or Monster??!! To: chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com, Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, odhora@yahoogroups. com, shetubondhon@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 3:34 PM Leaders should have full of love, peace and compassion. In Bangladesh, this theory is upside down esp. among BALists who are from top to bottom practice hatreds, promote killing, dokhol and unrest in society.   Wrong headed Hasina put two famous quarrelsome street ladies (like Motia Chow. populary known as Matari, and non begum Sahera Khatun) who even don't know how to smile in key posts so does walkie talki minister Faruk Khan.   I never saw they talk anything good or take a single step to make Bangladesh a prosperous country in three months, they are doing nonsense stuffs each moment instead.   How would you expect from this wicked leader that they will do something to prosper our country?   Look at her face:   Watch how she talks on Khaleda Zia's home issue at 6 min 47 sec:   http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ tvnews.php? PATH=dtv20090409 e1.flv&DATE=2009-04- 09&ID=709   Thanks, NK   Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now!

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[ALOCHONA] Re: Durvikho '74- million death & BAKSAL

Mr. Ullah,

If revisiting BAKSAL (which was very short-lived and experimental) over
and over again gives you some solace for your extreme right-wing
circle's massive election defeat, then please do not forget to re-post
this message once a month for the next five years.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> A famine breaks out in 1974 which is viewed as the direct result of
inefficiency and corruption by politicians and civil servants. The 1974
famine was not an isolated incident, but instead part of a long trend in
corruption in Bongobondhu Seikh Mujib's Administration following its
independence from Pakistan.
>
> Possibly over a million people died in the Bangladesh famine of 1974,
from July 1974 to January 1975, although the Bangladesh government
claimed only 26,000 people died.
>
>
> Sheikh Mujib addresses the foundation meeting of BAKSAL.
>
> The 'Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League' was the political
amalgmation of the Awami League with the Krishak Sramik Party that
supported President Mujibur Rahman in governing Bangladesh. All other
political parties were outlawed at the time, and the period from 1973 to
1975 in which BAKSAL existed, was seen as a one-party dictatorship. The
BAKSAL dissolved after Rahman's assassination on August 15, 1975, and
the KSP and League became independent political parties. The party
advocated state socialism.
>

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RE: [mukto-mona] Answering Mr. S.A. Hannan's argument on Islam and ideological warfare

Dear Sirs,

Assalamu Alaikum. On the letters below, I have nothing really to add .I would just say that there is consensus among Muslim scholars and Political thinkers that that every Muslim state must be subject to Quran and the Sunnah, even if you do not write it. Any one of you may read Hasan al Banna, or Iqgal or Qutb or Tariq Ramadan or Qardawi or Taha Jaber or Khurshid Ahmad or Dr Abdul Bari of UK.

Islam was not revealed for a particular time, Islam is for all ages.Any person who believes Islam is for a particular time his faith becomes suspect, to be polite, in fact he does not remain Muslim,

Quran does not stop progress, it has given few specific laws, it has given more values and principles ( so is Sunnah ), Islam solves all current problems through Ijtihad ( any body can read a book of Usul Al Fiqh or Islamic jurisprudence ). Ijtihad keeps Shariah ever-fresh.

As regards practice by the rulers , it may vary from 0 percent to hundred percent ( they may not practice at all or may practice fully ).Whatever be the practice in theory Islam wants that a state remains Darul Islam or Islamic state in theory in writing or verbal declaration.

There are so many other points which I am not responding.

Shah Abdul Hannan

-----Original Message-----
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kamal Das
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:42 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Answering Mr. S.A. Hannan's argument on Islam and ideological warfare

According to Tabari, Abu Bakr Siddique was poisoned to death. In the
Madina(even the name of the place was changed from Yatrib) society, the Jews
were evicted and slaughtered like cattle. THe Madina charter did not
protect them.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM, <> wrote:

>
>
> Mr. S.A. Hannan, As a Muslim I find it hard to believe a real Muslim will
> support the mockery on Allah, Islam and his prophet (PBOH).
>
> You said -Restoration of 72 constitution will mean deleting faith in Allah
> as a pillar of state policy, restoration of socialism, deleting Bismillahir
> Rahmanir Rahim ( in the name of beneficent and merciful Allah) and also
> banning all Islamic parties.-
>
> Let us analyze each point you made from Islamic perspective:
>
> Nineteen Seventy Two constitution of Bangladesh, which we (Muslim, Hindu,
> Christian, Buddhist and other faith) earned waging an independence war that
> you and Jamaat-e-Islami vehemently opposed not using peaceful means but
> waging a war against people of Bangladesh.
>
> I thank you for correctly stating the words restoration of 1971, what it
> mean is going back to its ideological originality with what the country was
> founded. Bangladesh triumph over Pakistan burying the false notion of
> two-nation theory, which divided Muslims, and Hindus as different therefore
> each of them needed separate state.
>
> What the law minister said has no forceful innovation. Democratically
> elected parliament constructed 1972 constitution on the other hand inclusion
> of Islam as state religion, faith in Allah, inclusion of Bismillah and
> allowing religion to be used as tool for politics rather then worshipping
> Allah was not constituted by parliament rather proclamation by undemocratic
> military regime.
>
> Now with the history in hand tell me Mr. S.A. Hannan, who waged the
> ideological warfare by changing the constitution? Is it the constitutionist
> of 1972 or the later proclamationists' military government?
>
> Four pillars of 1972 constitution may not be Islamic but it was not anti
> Islamic or to defame Islam. But later change in constitution by autocratic
> Gen. Zia and Gen. Ershad regime is not just anti democratic but surely anti
> Islamic as well, here is my argument as a Muslim, please read.
>
> Constitution of any country is the mother of all law and must to follow to
> its fullest strength, right? Under the framework of constitution, all other
> laws such as Civil Law, Criminal Law, Land Law etc, right?
>
> Here is very important point; any law, which contradicts with the mother of
> all law therefore constitution, then the sub laws (Civil, criminal etc)
> becomes null and void, right?
>
> Now let me come to the point. Current constitution puts its faith in Allah,
> calls Bangladesh as a Muslim state, and puts Bismillah Hir Rahmanir Rahim
> (In the name of Allah ……) in the preamble of constitution. Therefore,
> logic will be all law, which has been adopted in the constitution will be
> followed by rule of Allah, right?
>
> Now, Mr. S.A. Hannan, please tell me as a Muslim how in the world a
> constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly Quran
> in the preamble, claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law which
> authorizes a 18 years or old girl to get laid by getting state issued
> prostitution license!!!!! ! Mr. Hannan, I say Nousubillah, will you say that
> too?
>
> Constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly
> Quran in the preamble, claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law
> which authorizes one to get state issued license to open bar to serve
> alcoholic beverage!!!! Mr. Hannan, what will be your answer to that?
>
> Constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly Quran
> (Rahim ( in the name of beneficent and merciful Allah) in the preamble,
> claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law which authorizes one to
> get state issued license to drink alcoholic beverage!!!! ! Mr. Hannan, what
> will be your answer to that?
>
> Constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly Quran
> in the preamble claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law that
> authorizes one to get state issued license to setup gambling!!!!. Mr.
> Hannan, I say Nousubillah will you say that too?
>
> Mr. S.A. Hannan, I with very limited knowledge in Islam as well as
> constitutional laws can site hundreds of anti Islam, Anti Allah, Anti Rasul
> (PBOH) law that goes against the preamble of constitution that starts with
> in the name of Allah….
>
> I am ashamed that Muslims of Bangladesh does not understand that by
> inclusion of Allah and his religion Islam in our constitution and calling
> our state religion as Islam is nothing but mockery, disrespect and
> ridiculing Islam for mere political gain by mischief politician's certainly
> not out of love for true Islam.
>
> Merciful Allah who created this earth and our solar system, allowed it to
> be inhibited by those who believe in Allah and those who do not. Gave them
> knowledge to find the truth and said, on the Day of Judgment you will be
> asked how you used your knowledge, until then you are on your own to belief
> or disbelief. Alas, we being the creation of Allah wants to change the rule
> of creator and make rules contrarily to his rule and appoint our self as
> judge for our makeshift judgment day. This is very sad that we are not ready
> to wait until his called judgment day but wants to handle it on our own.
>
> Inclusive Islam that spread like a breakneck stream throughout the world
> with the word Salam to all, believers and non-believers alike now only wants
> to embrace ones and disowned the others.
>
> Mr. S.A. Hannan, you said
>
> What is the need for doing all these? Islamic provisions in the
> constitution are not any problem because Islam *grants all other
> religious communities* all fundamental rights ( Madinan society under the
> Prophet is the greatest proof where Jews were granted all civil, political
> and religious rights under the constitution made by the Prophet. ).It is
> true that in a state where Muslims are in great majority, Islam will get
> special position .This does not create any problem because other
> communities' rights are properly protected as per Islam.In entire history of
> Islam , all Muslim states whether Khulafae Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid,
> Mughals or Usmani regime in Istambul, Islam had very special position. It
> was natural thing.This should remain so
>
> Mr. Hannan who gave you the authority to GRANT when Allah granted this
> world to all. Its land, its air, its stream of water then what right you
> have to use the word grant being a recover of his mercy. . Let me point you
> to an argument, Muslim living in US a christen majority country do not
> curtail their religious beliefs too, what will be your argument Mr.. Hannan.
>
> Religious rights of other faith prevailed on the days our Rasul (PBUH), but
> no longer in many cases in many Muslim majority places. Practice of religion
> of other faith is no longer allowed in Mecca . What that means Mr. Hannan,
> is it not Islam in the hands of creation changed the creators rule!!!
>
> Unnecessarily as an argument to special treatment to Islam, you said:
>
> All Muslim states whether Khulafae Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Mughals or
> Usmani regime in Istambul, Islam had very special position. It was natural
> thing.This should remain so..
>
> It was Allah's wish, and Sahabaya Ikram's judgment, that after the death of
> our fourth Khulafa-e-Rashideen the Political Islam ended because by then it
> was clear that this could not sustain rather it creates Fitna among Muslim.
> Out of four Khalifah three of them was brutally murdered
>
> *First Khalifah* Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radhiyallahu anhu) death was
> normal
>
> *Second Khalifah* Hadhrat Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) died in the hands of
> Abu Lu'lu', the Majúsi (fire-worshipper)
>
> *Third Khalifah* Hadhrat Uthman Ghani (radhiyallahu anhu) was brutally
> martyred on 18th Thil Hajj, 35 Hijri. When he was martyred, he was reciting
> the Qur'aan Majeed. His blood fell on the aayat:
>
> *Fourth and last Khalifah *Hazrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu) was martyred by
> Abdur Rahman Ibn Muljim on 18th of Ramadan in Kufa
>
> Your mentioned Umayyad, Abbasid, Mughals or Usmani regime in Istambul are
> nothing but Kingship, which is very against the rule of Islamic theology, so
> no comments.
>
> Mr. Hannan you said:
>
> Dear sirs, there is no need for a new ideological war in this county, It
> will create serious conflict and turmoil and where it will end up only Allah
> knows.No body can be sure such change made will be sustained later..I urge
> al of you to keep watch over the situation and to save the country from
> such conflict and turmoil .Bangladesh has so many problems, we should not
> open this new major problem.If any of you can influence Awami League
> leadership ,you should do so.
>
> Mr. Hannan we hard this Jamaat-e-Islami political stunt rhetoric in 1971.
> When the entire nation was waging a war of liberation, Jamaat-e-Islami said
> the same thing. Their political doctrine of saving Pakistan to salvage
> Islam leaded them to contribute of bloodshed of Bengalis by forming
> Pakistani collaborator jalim Rajakar.
>
> Mr. Hannan, you said - serious conflict and turmoil and where it will end
> up only Allah knows.
>
> Nevertheless, you know that scare technique did not work in 1971 therefore;
> it will not work this time too. Serious conflict and turmoil of 1971 created
> Bangladesh , this time it will create Razakar free Bangladesh . Last time
> there was clemency because of Bangabandhu a lion hart man, this time there
> is none to pronounce clemency.
>
> If not literal then Bangladesh must choose to go back to the spirit of 1972
> constitution. This is the demand of the time for the survival of Bangladesh
> and to keep the promise given to fallen comrades.
>
> Shamim Chowdhury
>
> Maryland, USA
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alochona@yahoogroups.com>,
> "S A Hannan" <sahannan@...> wrote:
>
> Dear members of the list,
>
> Assalamu Alaikum. I will only add that the freedom fighters did not
> fight against Islam as far as I have come to know from them., they
> fought against discrimination against this province by central
> authorities.
>
> In 1970 election manifesto they did not say a word against Islamic
> constitution or that they would add a provision banning Islamic
> parties.They violated their promise.
>
> Bangladesh is still based ontwo nation theory, other wise it can not
> have this border.
>
> Where as inclusion of secularism was a violation of Awami League
> manifesto of 1970, the restoration of Islamic provisions through the
> Parliament and referendum in 1977 was a lawful act.
>
> For Muslims, no constitution is above the teaching of the Quran, for
> that reason it is always better to make constitution in a Muslim country
> in line with Islam.
>
> The lomg letter writer has mentioned about some un-Islamic activities
> happening in Bangladesh ( some prostitution and drinking etc)even
> though throe is Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim in the beginning of the
> constitution.The only course for this is to eradicate those things in
> due course of time, not to delete Bismillah.It is a negative
> thinking.There are not many anti-Islamic laws now in Bangladesh.Only a
> few laws are there where a few sections have to be changed in the light
> of Islam and we hope somr government now or in future will do that and
> in this process continuance of Article 8 A will be helpful ( Faith in
> Almighty Allah is the basis of all actions of the state.
>
> I agree West has good points but it is also true that western
> civilization has produced many evil concepts and ideologies which are
> like poison such as Fascism,Communism, Capitalism, secularism and
> Materialism.These ideologies have ruined humanity and made them inhuman
> robot.
>
> I am not responding to other points. This is no academic and scholary
> response, it is only polemics.
>
> Shah Abdul Hannan
>
>
>
>

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