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[mukto-mona] RE: {PFC-Friends} Absolutely Disgraceful Act !



বিএনপির হাইভোল্টেজ নেতা সালাউদ্দিন কাদের চৌধুরীর (সাকা চৌধুরী) মুখ থেকে উচ্চারিত কিছু বিনোদনমূলক বানী [১ম পর্ব]..

১ ) তিনি একবার সংসদে বলেনঃ মাননীয় স্পীকার দেশে আজব একখান মেশিন আইছে.!! তখন স্পীকার কৌতুহুলবশত জিজ্ঞাসা করলেন কি সেই আজব মেশিন.?
সাকা চৌধুরী বলেনঃ মাননীয় স্পিকার সেই মেশিনের নাম আওয়ামিলীগ যার একদিকে যুদ্ধাপরাধী ডুকাইলে আরেকদিকে মুক্তিযোদ্ধা বাহির হইয়া অসে…

২ ) আমার নাম যদি সাকা চৌধুরী হয়, তাহলে আজ থেকে শেখ মুজিবুর রহমানের নাম শেমু রহমান।

৩ ) গ্রেফতার আতঙ্কের মধ্যেও এতটা হাসি খুশি কিভাবে আছেন এক সাংবাদিকের এই প্রশ্নের জবাবে সাকা চৌধুরী বলেনঃ ধর্ষন যখন নিশ্চিত, তখন তা উপভোগ করাই শ্রেয়..

৪ ) চট্টগ্রামে এক সমাবেশে তৎকালীন আওয়ামী সরকারের সবকিছুতেই
বঙ্গবন্ধুর স্বপ্ন খুজে পাওয়াকে কটাক্ষ করে সাকা বলেনঃ বঙ্গবন্ধু এত বেশি স্বপ্ন দেখতেন যে মনে হয় উনার স্বপ্নদোষ আছিল.!?

৫ ) প্রধানমন্ত্রীর পরিবারের সঙ্গে তার ঘনিষ্ঠ যোগাযোগের কথা উল্লেখ করে তিনি বলেনঃ ছাত্রজীবনে শেখ মুজিব আমার বাবার শিষ্য ছিলেন..

৬ ) স্বর্ণ চোরাচালান মামলায় তাকে আসামী করার পর বলেনঃ হাসিনার যদি সোনার প্রতি এতই লোভ থাকে তাহলে ওয়াজেদ মিয়াকে তো বলতে পারে.!! এতো সোনা থাকতে
আমার সোনা নিয়ে এতো টানাটানি কেন.?

৭ ) আমার নাম সালাউদ্দিন কাদের চৌধুরী থেকে যদি সাকা চৌধুরী হতে পারে তাহলে আমিও বলতে পারি Bangladesh Awami League থেকে ‪#‎BAL‬ বাল..

৮ ) যুদ্ধপরাধীদের বিচার সম্পর্কে সাকা চৌধুরী বলেনঃ মাঠে যারা ফাউল করেছে তাদের বিচার হচ্ছে না অথচ গ্যালারিতে বসে যে হাততালি দিয়েছে তাদের বিচার নিয়ে বাড়াবাড়ি হচ্ছে..

৯ ) একবার আইন মন্ত্রী কে লক্ষ্য করে তিনি বলেনঃ নতুন নতুন অর্বাচিনরা আমাকে আদব শেখায়..

১০ ) সুশীল আবার কি.!?
সু - মানে সুন্দর আর শীল - মানে নাপিত, তাহলে সুশীল মানে সুন্দর নাপিত..

১১ ) হাসিনাকে উদ্দেশ্য করে বলেনঃ আংগুল দেখাবেন না, ওই আংগুলে আমার রিং পরানোর কথা ছিল।

১২ ) সংবিধানের পঞ্চম সংশোধনী নিয়ে সাকা চৌধুরী বলেনঃ পঞ্চম সংশোধনীর কথা আর বইলেন না, সোনা মিয়া হইছে লাল মিয়া আর লাল মিয়া হইছে সোনা মিয়া.!? মিয়াডা ঠিকই আছে, খালি সোনাডা লাল হয়ে গেছে..

১৩ ) সংসদে সাকা চৌধুরী এক পর্যায়ে বলেছিলেনঃ মাননীয় স্পিকার আমিতো চোদনা হয়ে গেলাম। স্পিকার এমন অশ্লিল কথা না বলার অনুরোধ করলে তিনি তার জবাবে বলেন আমি আবারও চোদনা হয়ে গেলাম.!

১৪ ) ঐ পারের ঐ রবীন্দ্রনাথের লেখা গান জাতীয় সংগীত কেন.? আমাদের দেশে কি জাতীয় সংগীত লিখার কেউ ছিল না.?

১৫ ) আওয়ামী লীগের একটি মহল প্রধানমন্ত্রীর বিরুদ্ধে তাকে উস্কে দিচ্ছে অভিযোগ করে তিনি বলেনঃ ওই মহলটি জানে না যে তারা যে বিলের মাছ আমি সালাউদ্দিন ওই বিলের বক ৷

১৬ ) ওআইসি-এর মহাসচিব পদের জন্যে সাকা চৌধুরিকে বাংলাদেশের পক্ষ থেকে পাঠানো হয়েছিল আর সেই সময় সাংবাদিকদেরকে কালা বিড়াল সুরঞ্জিত বাবু বলেছিলঃ সাকা চৌধুরিকে কেন ওআইসি -এর মহাসচিব.? উনি তো এর যোগ্য না।
দেশে ফিরে বিমানবন্দরে তার কথার জবাবে বাবু ওআইসি নিয়ে কথা বলার কে.? উনাকে ওআইসি নিয়ে কথা বলতে হলে, আমি ছোট বেলায় যে জিনিসটা কেটে ফেলে দিয়েছি, আগে ওই জিনিসটা কেটে ফেলতে হবে । তারপর বাবুকে ওআইসি নিয়ে কথা বলতে বলেন..

১৭ ) তত্ত্বাবধায়ক নিয়ে কিসের সংলাপ -এটা তো গর্ভবতী মহিলার মতোই সময় হলেই প্রসব করবে। তার জন্য আবার সংলাপ করতে হবে কেন তাও আবার দিনক্ষণ ঠিক করে। এটা এখন পুরান ইস্যু, নতুন ইস্যু হলো বর্তমান সরকার কবে প্রস্থান করবে, তা নিয়ে আলোচনা বা সংলাপ হতে পারে সরকার এবং বিরোধী দলের মধ্যে।

১৮ ) নারী নির্যাতন বিষয়ে আইন প্রতিমন্ত্রী টাকলু কামরুলের একটি বক্তব্যের জবাবে সাকা বলেনঃ কামরুইল্যা যে কেরানীগজ্ঞের একজন প্রমোদ বালক, এটা কি আমি কখনও বলেছি.?

১৯ ) রাষ্ট্র পরিচালনা ও মুদির দোকান চালানো এক নয়। রাষ্ট্র পরিচালনার জন্য গর্ভবতী মহিলার মতো চলাফেরা করতে হয় খুব সাবধানে। নতুবা একটু এদিক - ওদিক হলেই এক্সিডেন্ট..

২০ ) সাকা চৌধুরী আন্তর্জাতিক যুদ্বাপরাধ ট্রাইব্যুনালের রাষ্ট্র পক্ষের আইনজীবী প্রসিকিউটর জেয়াদ-আল-মালুম কে বলেনঃ মালুম না হালুম.!? নাম মালুম, কিন্তু পুরো বেমালুম হয়ে গেছেন.? পরে প্রসিকিউটর জেয়াদ-আল-মালুম অপমানিত হয়ে ট্রাইব্যুনালকে বলেন সাকা চৌধুরী আমাকে বারবার হালুম বলেন।

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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 21:52:08 -0400
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Absolutely Disgraceful Act !
From: shahdeeldar@gmail.com
To: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com

You should bring forward your better logic with that 'apostate' instead of complaining to your mommy. The logic of any religion, let alone alone Islam is poor and dismal. Any religious belief got everything except the logic. Yes, you can take it to the bank. Well, if Bain is an Islam hater, ban him from the forum and declare your glorious your victory. That is why Islam has not created great minds and great scientists despite of its thirteen hundred years existence. Seldom we see a great Muslim scientist accepting Nobel prize from His excellency of Sweden, King Carl Gustaf. Even though, people love to think that Quran got all the great clues of nature's mysteries but only the devils, infidels can get the clues right because they are getting all the prizes? Let me be blunt here, does anybody understand Quran? Did your forefathers understand Quran when they accepted Islam? It sounds like blinds leading blinds and people are killing each other for the nonsense. Yeah, who loves Allah more? You or infidels? I bet, you but you are not at par with the infidels yet.

No, India should not be an exception. But before people accusing India, keep your own house clean. Anything bad happens in any Islamic country, Muslims would say that the deed was perpetrated by non Muslims. Hence, nothing happens. These bad Muslims become good Muslims again the cycle repeats itself again and again until the victims get killed or escapes from the misery.  I do see lots of tantrums about Christians, Jews and Hindus are being pure evils but if we look at the states that they have built..... is far superior in many areas.... including government, judiciary, minority rights, education, music, science and literature. Is that a fluke? Of Course not!  No wonder why Muslims are clamoring to move to those countries and settling in droves.  Obviously Muslims are far happier with the infidels and having far more rights than their own countries.

-SD

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com> wrote:
For quite sometime, I've been following Mr. Bain's  tirade in this forum on different issues. His observation, judgement, comments were all aimed at undermining Islam and Muslims. His logic are at best convoluted if not laughable. I must say he has met his goal very successfully to  establish himself as Muslim hater.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Ali Shaheen <alishaheen2010@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a red herring. Why should India be excused it's atrocities because other countries commit atrocities too?!  Your defensiveness about India is showing!

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On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:55 PM, 'Sukhamaya Bain' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:

It is despicable and disgraceful, no doubt about that. But how do you know that Kashmiris deciding their future would make it any better? For this incident that happened yesterday three persons have already been arrested. How many persons are in custody in Bangladesh for the April 14, 2015, molestations in Dhaka? None. So, in this respect what place is more despicable currently, Kashmir or Bangladesh? So, my friend, being from Bangladesh, let us not mix up any despicable act with 'deciding their future.'



On Monday, July 6, 2015 1:33 PM, Syed Haque <syedhaque@hotmail.com> wrote:


This is utterly despicable and absolutely disgraceful act regardless of the belief a woman practice.  Let Kashmiris decide their future through peaceful resolution. 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/jandk/woman-stripped-naked-in-j-amp-k-accused-include-army-jawan/article1-1366150.aspx
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Absolutely Disgraceful Act !



I agree totally with Mr. Deeldar. Humanists do not hate. I certainly do not hate the Muslims; I just want them to use their natural human intelligence and compassion, as opposed to being zombies that follow or try to follow the instructions of a doctrine from a backward and hateful people of the seventh century. I certainly wish everything good for the Muslims (as well as for all other kinds of people).
 
SuBain
 
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:32 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
No! That is very wrong. You do not hate somebody because he/she hates you. Basically all religions are based on false premises and fundamentals including Islam despite what people want you to believe. Some religions have reformed and make their religions rather ceremonial things than serious business/doctrine. Islam would not budge and Muslims have become rather laggard group than true leaders despite its fresh start. The problem is, when these Islamists are accommodated in the west, they want more.... that is to say bringing the garbage from home.... which has already failed in most Muslim majority countries. We may disagree with many posters but we do not hate anybody.  At least, I don't!! We want cogent arguments. We are not like Avijhit's killers with meat-cleavers. Thank you.
 




On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:35 PM, "Dristy Pat dristypat5@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Do you know why people hate Muslims?

Maybe it's because they hate non-Muslims. Their religion teach them to hate the infidel (non-Muslims). Also, even though, most Muslims are not terrorists, most terrorists are Muslims.

Pat
   

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
You should bring forward your better logic with that 'apostate' instead of complaining to your mommy. The logic of any religion, let alone alone Islam is poor and dismal. Any religious belief got everything except the logic. Yes, you can take it to the bank. Well, if Bain is an Islam hater, ban him from the forum and declare your glorious your victory. That is why Islam has not created great minds and great scientists despite of its thirteen hundred years existence. Seldom we see a great Muslim scientist accepting Nobel prize from His excellency of Sweden, King Carl Gustaf. Even though, people love to think that Quran got all the great clues of nature's mysteries but only the devils, infidels can get the clues right because they are getting all the prizes? Let me be blunt here, does anybody understand Quran? Did your forefathers understand Quran when they accepted Islam? It sounds like blinds leading blinds and people are killing each other for the nonsense. Yeah, who loves Allah more? You or infidels? I bet, you but you are not at par with the infidels yet.

No, India should not be an exception. But before people accusing India, keep your own house clean. Anything bad happens in any Islamic country, Muslims would say that the deed was perpetrated by non Muslims. Hence, nothing happens. These bad Muslims become good Muslims again the cycle repeats itself again and again until the victims get killed or escapes from the misery.  I do see lots of tantrums about Christians, Jews and Hindus are being pure evils but if we look at the states that they have built..... is far superior in many areas.... including government, judiciary, minority rights, education, music, science and literature. Is that a fluke? Of Course not!  No wonder why Muslims are clamoring to move to those countries and settling in droves.  Obviously Muslims are far happier with the infidels and having far more rights than their own countries.

-SD

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com> wrote:
For quite sometime, I've been following Mr. Bain's  tirade in this forum on different issues. His observation, judgement, comments were all aimed at undermining Islam and Muslims. His logic are at best convoluted if not laughable. I must say he has met his goal very successfully to  establish himself as Muslim hater.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Ali Shaheen <alishaheen2010@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a red herring. Why should India be excused it's atrocities because other countries commit atrocities too?!  Your defensiveness about India is showing!

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On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:55 PM, 'Sukhamaya Bain' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:

It is despicable and disgraceful, no doubt about that. But how do you know that Kashmiris deciding their future would make it any better? For this incident that happened yesterday three persons have already been arrested. How many persons are in custody in Bangladesh for the April 14, 2015, molestations in Dhaka? None. So, in this respect what place is more despicable currently, Kashmir or Bangladesh? So, my friend, being from Bangladesh, let us not mix up any despicable act with 'deciding their future.'



On Monday, July 6, 2015 1:33 PM, Syed Haque <syedhaque@hotmail.com> wrote:


This is utterly despicable and absolutely disgraceful act regardless of the belief a woman practice.  Let Kashmiris decide their future through peaceful resolution. 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/jandk/woman-stripped-naked-in-j-amp-k-accused-include-army-jawan/article1-1366150.aspx
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Religion is the last refuge of a scoundrel! How did Gaffar Chaudhury offend the religion? Can religion be so shallow that a mortal man can poke holes so easily?
People, we live in a free society. If you do like it, buy a ticket and return to the darkness. Do not impose your will on us as we not impose our way on to you.


 

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:39 PM, 'zainul abedin' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Salam,

Besides all of the views of all brothers, I have also a few observations and questions to the warning filer নিউ  ইংল্যান্ড  আওয়ামী  লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র (ও'গণি-- সু' বড়ুয়া).

Can the  নিউ  ইংল্যান্ড  আওয়ামী  লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র (ও'গণি-- সু' বড়ুয়া) tell us why Gachow's  meanest "বক্তব্য" has been mingled with so-called "মুক্তিযুদ্ধের আদর্শ এবং অসাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতি"?

Can  the  নিউ  ইংল্যান্ড  আওয়ামী  লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র (ও'গণি-- সু' বড়ুয়া) tell us what is Gachow's "একটি বক্তব্য" and why  "নানা বিতর্ক চলছে" and বিতর্ক can be hate crime?

Can the  নিউ  ইংল্যান্ড  আওয়ামী  লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র (ও'গণি-- সু' বড়ুয়া) tell us why not Gachow's  "বক্তব্য" so mean and derogatory that surpassed the level of even "অশালীন এবং গালাগালি" targeted toward about 1.60 billion people's faith and hurt them?

Why cannot the নিউ  ইংল্যান্ড  আওয়ামী  লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র (ও'গণি-- সু' বড়ুয়া) condemn and disassociate this mean (Itor Prani) rather threat people who protest his derogatory remarks and belief?

Do the নিউ  ইংল্যান্ড  আওয়ামী  লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র (ও'গণি-- সু' বড়ুয়া) believe in the anti-Islamic belief-system and derogatory remarks of Gachow?

Khoda Hafez,

Zainul Abedin

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On Wed, 7/8/15, Kazi Ullah <kullah@camsys.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: "বিজ্ঞপ্তি"
 To: anis.ahmed@netzero.net
 Cc: americanbangladeshi@googlegroups.com, bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com, bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com, nabdc@googlegroups.com, neawamileague@gmail.com, njbdnews@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015, 9:25 AM

 I absolutely agree with Mr. Anis Ahmed.
  Without knowing the definition of "Hate Crime",
 the New
 England Awami League issued a warning about "Hate
 Crime" which
 is funny.  Wonder how Mr. Gaffar Chowdhury feels about his
 derogatory
 statement against a religion.  Can he do the same against
 Hindu or
 other religion?  I do not think so.  He knows that he can
 get
 away with his remarks against Islam while sitting in the
 Bangladesh High
 Commission office.



 Enayet













 From:      
  "Anis
 Ahmed"
 <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>

 To:      
  neawamileague@gmail.com,


 Cc:      
  bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com,
 bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com,
 nabdc@googlegroups.com,
 americanbangladeshi@googlegroups.com,
 njbdnews@yahoo.com,
 bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com,
 nabdc@googlegroups.com

 Date:      
  07/07/2015 07:41
 PM

 Subject:    
    Re:
 "বিজ্ঞপ্তি"

 Sent by:    
    bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com








 To the New
 England Awami League Officials:

 1.    
    Do
 you know what constitute Hate Crimes according to the Local,
 State and
 Federal Laws?

 2.    
    Do
 you know what constitute Religious Incitements and
 Intimidation according
 to the Local, State and Federal Laws? Analyze what Mr.
 Gaffar Chowdhury
 said against people's faith (religion).

 3.    
    Is
 your New England Awami League a legal entity in the US to
 issue public
 notice?

 4.    
    Is
 your New England Awami League legally authorized to operate
 foreign (Bangladeshi)
 political activities in the US soil?

 Please check
 with appropriate authorities before
 you warn publicly.

  




  





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 "বিজ্ঞপ্তি"
 "আমরা
 যাঁরা মুক্তিযুদ্ধের
 আদর্শ
  এবং অসাম্প্রদায়িক
 রাজনীতিতে
 বিশ্বাসী, তাঁরা
 অত্যন্ত দুঃখের
 সাথে লক্ষ্য করছি যে,
 কলামিষ্ট
 আব্দুল গাফ্ফার
 চৌধুরী'র নিউ
 ইয়র্কে দেয়া একটি
 বক্তব্যকে
 কেন্দ্র করে নানা
 বিতর্ক চলছে।
  আব্দুল গাফফার
 চৌধুরী'র বক্তব্যের
 প্রতিবাদ করার অধিকার
 সবার রয়েছে।
 কিন্তু এও লক্ষ্য রাখতে
 হবে
 যে, প্রতিবাদের ভাষা
 যেন অশালীন
 এবং গালাগালিতে পরিনত
 না হয়,
 যা এদেশের  আইনে হেইট
 ক্রাইম
 (Hate Crime) হিসাবে গন্য এবং
 প্রয়োজনে
 আইনী আশ্রয় নেয়া যেতে
 পারে।
  "

  

 নিবেদক:

  

 ওসমান গণি

 সভাপতি

 সুহাস বড়ুয়া


 সাধারন সম্পাদক


 নিউ
 ইংল্যান্ড
 আওয়ামী
 লীগ,যুক্তরাষ্ট্র।


  
  
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Absolutely Disgraceful Act !



No! That is very wrong. You do not hate somebody because he/she hates you. Basically all religions are based on false premises and fundamentals including Islam despite what people want you to believe. Some religions have reformed and make their religions rather ceremonial things than serious business/doctrine. Islam would not budge and Muslims have become rather laggard group than true leaders despite its fresh start. The problem is, when these Islamists are accommodated in the west, they want more.... that is to say bringing the garbage from home.... which has already failed in most Muslim majority countries. We may disagree with many posters but we do not hate anybody.  At least, I don't!! We want cogent arguments. We are not like Avijhit's killers with meat-cleavers. Thank you.
 




On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:35 PM, "Dristy Pat dristypat5@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Do you know why people hate Muslims?

Maybe it's because they hate non-Muslims. Their religion teach them to hate the infidel (non-Muslims). Also, even though, most Muslims are not terrorists, most terrorists are Muslims.

Pat
   

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
You should bring forward your better logic with that 'apostate' instead of complaining to your mommy. The logic of any religion, let alone alone Islam is poor and dismal. Any religious belief got everything except the logic. Yes, you can take it to the bank. Well, if Bain is an Islam hater, ban him from the forum and declare your glorious your victory. That is why Islam has not created great minds and great scientists despite of its thirteen hundred years existence. Seldom we see a great Muslim scientist accepting Nobel prize from His excellency of Sweden, King Carl Gustaf. Even though, people love to think that Quran got all the great clues of nature's mysteries but only the devils, infidels can get the clues right because they are getting all the prizes? Let me be blunt here, does anybody understand Quran? Did your forefathers understand Quran when they accepted Islam? It sounds like blinds leading blinds and people are killing each other for the nonsense. Yeah, who loves Allah more? You or infidels? I bet, you but you are not at par with the infidels yet.

No, India should not be an exception. But before people accusing India, keep your own house clean. Anything bad happens in any Islamic country, Muslims would say that the deed was perpetrated by non Muslims. Hence, nothing happens. These bad Muslims become good Muslims again the cycle repeats itself again and again until the victims get killed or escapes from the misery.  I do see lots of tantrums about Christians, Jews and Hindus are being pure evils but if we look at the states that they have built..... is far superior in many areas.... including government, judiciary, minority rights, education, music, science and literature. Is that a fluke? Of Course not!  No wonder why Muslims are clamoring to move to those countries and settling in droves.  Obviously Muslims are far happier with the infidels and having far more rights than their own countries.

-SD

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com> wrote:
For quite sometime, I've been following Mr. Bain's  tirade in this forum on different issues. His observation, judgement, comments were all aimed at undermining Islam and Muslims. His logic are at best convoluted if not laughable. I must say he has met his goal very successfully to  establish himself as Muslim hater.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Ali Shaheen <alishaheen2010@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a red herring. Why should India be excused it's atrocities because other countries commit atrocities too?!  Your defensiveness about India is showing!

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On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:55 PM, 'Sukhamaya Bain' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:

It is despicable and disgraceful, no doubt about that. But how do you know that Kashmiris deciding their future would make it any better? For this incident that happened yesterday three persons have already been arrested. How many persons are in custody in Bangladesh for the April 14, 2015, molestations in Dhaka? None. So, in this respect what place is more despicable currently, Kashmir or Bangladesh? So, my friend, being from Bangladesh, let us not mix up any despicable act with 'deciding their future.'



On Monday, July 6, 2015 1:33 PM, Syed Haque <syedhaque@hotmail.com> wrote:


This is utterly despicable and absolutely disgraceful act regardless of the belief a woman practice.  Let Kashmiris decide their future through peaceful resolution. 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/jandk/woman-stripped-naked-in-j-amp-k-accused-include-army-jawan/article1-1366150.aspx
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