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[mukto-mona] RE: *~history**Islam~*** RE: Khilafat!!!--Davdas is a malignant enemy of Islam

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/51613


Dear Hannan>

One's ignorance and stupidity must have a limit--or is there? Instead of being an honest researcher to dig out the truth--you are calling me a liar? Are you sure your Allah will forgive you for this? Brother hannan---I thought, you knew something about Islam? Didn't it ever occur to you as to why abu bakr, umar, usman, khalid, muavia and host of other rightly guided sahabas did not bother to attend this man's funeral? See, how dangerous your faith is? it doesn't allow you to see the truth. Do some digging yourself and truth shall set you free.


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[ALOCHONA] Fwd: Prevent the Spread of Flu





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[ALOCHONA] Pak Jammat-e-Islaami Ameer's Reaction on Swat Valley Flogging



It is not understandable why Mr. S.A. Hannan a Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh think-tank analyst was making his covert effort to disqualify the Swat Valley Flogging as false, when Ameer of Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan did not called it fake but tried to justify it for five minutes. This shrewd man made every effort to dodge every question asked by journalist and finally hang-up the phone because he could not take the pressure anymore as he knows he and his party Jamaat-e-Islami is wrong.

 

Pakistan is seating in a time bomb, any moment it is going to explode and the entire sub-continent will be in turmoil.

 

Please listen to Jamaat-e-Islami dodge game on Swat Valley Flogging

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[mukto-mona] A Bangladeshi initiative

Hello all,

Following is a Bangladeshi initiative everyone should support -
 http://www.greenarrow.com.

It says in the About page -

Greenarrow enables you to easily personalize the web and to make it your own. Using small movable modules of all of your favorites items, you can create your own personal webpage and more!
* Create your own banner! Change it around and arrange it any way you like.
* Change the theme, color, and the appearance of the page.
* No more surfing from site to site!
* Your favorite search engines, your email accounts, favorite web links, blogs, photos, videos, podcasts, widgets, and everything else you enjoy on the    Web, are all in one place! And YOU can arrange them as you like.
* Your personal Notepad, Address book, Calendar and Bookmarks are available to you wherever you go!
* Your personal profile and picture are always there along with the profiles of your friends and their pictures.
* Your Album will store hundreds of yours, your family's', and your friend's pictures. And are viewable from anywhere, anytime from any PC or Mac.
* You choose what will be displayed on your pages.
* Unlike other home pages, Greenarrow is a complete portal. You can add or remove additional pages from other categories (Health, News, Sports etc.).

Visit the site, encourage a Bangladeshi initiative.
 
Thanks.


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[mukto-mona] Re: Allah confused

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The word Allah is an abstract word which has many attributes as any other abstract words and Allah is not a neutral word as it has many significance to those who studied not merely read the holy book of Quran. As I said before Allah is the unified theory or code name for the natural events.

Whether Allah, is the God of Mecca? as suggested by Mr. Kamal Das, has no relevance of what the word Allah in and of itself stands for. Or whether the Almighty God undergoes metamorphosis (mutation or transmutation) in biological sense, is, also irrelevant, because the word God and Allah in my view are not the same thing in terms of the meaning each of these words convey.

Can an abstract object a word Allah or any other, undergo metamorphosis stages like a caterpillar into a butterfly as suggested by Mr. Kamal Das? How?

Would you mind in describing how the Almighty God undergoes metamorphosis and can you delineate in what relation the word Allah and God are same thing in terms of the meaning of the word and then describe the process or stages of metamorphosis?

The distinction between Allah vs God must be presented or expected of him as a meaning as well as stages of metamorphosis that he thinks occurs to Almighty God. And what relation in meaning of the word Almighty God and the word Allah are the same thing?

Before one can determine the meaning of a word, we need to understand what is the relation called "meaning". I mean, what kind of object a word is when considered simply as a physical thing, apart from its meaning. Let's us say, the word Orwell or Napoleon or Machiavelli means a certain person. In saying this, we are asserting a relation between the word "Orwell" or "Napoleon" or "Machiavelli" and the person(s) so designated.

Can Orwell, Napoleon, and Machiavelli undergo metamorphic changes and become the three divine sons of Jahelian's gods for a period of time until people realise that those are fuax gods? As jahilian people would do any thing to satisfy their urges even by cracking a coconut in front of their gods but won't realise they themselves have no spirit(nuh)?

Were Ashgar, Kamal and Cyrus the three idols planted in the house of Kaaba and worshipped by the people of darkness until Prophet Mohammad's revelation and subsequently, enlighten people removed those idols from the house of prophet Abraham's? or Was it Allah who disowned those idols or the people of Mecca had decided not to worship those man-made idols anymore as it has no spiritual values in them? Even those enlightened Veda's people never worshipped idols of which kamal das seems to be so enamoured!

BTW lack of clarity in meaning can hinder good reasoning and obstruct effective communication. One way to make meaning clearer is to make definitions. The definition is the term that is to be defined. For example, in defining bachelor to mean an unmarried man. So the definition of the word bachelor is defined as an unmarried man.

Similarly, Allah is an abstract word stand alone or without its meaning attached to it. And the definition of the term Allah is defined as the Nur in the Quran. and to understand what is the Nur, one needs to understand what is not Nur. For example, the sun is siraj and the moon is muneer in Arabic. The sun's light or the moon's reflected light are not the Nur's light rather it is without it. The implication of Nur in Quran is refer to the dark matter and this Nur does what it will. The Nur's light upon sun's light which is hidden in plain view and most of us are not aware of its significance. And Quran has defined this Nur as to be Allah's definition. It is Allah's law causes an apple to fall from a tree as it is the same law that moves the sun, moon and the earth.

Now the question is: what does the word Almighty God defined to Mr. Kamal? Please share with us and enlighten us as I don't disparage knowledge. I asked this question because in my memory (nufs or database or soul - in my repository) does not have the word God or gods, as I don't believe in the concept of God or gods/goddess; hence i won't criticize (i.e. judge) it. So I suspended my judgement or criticism and left it for Mr. Kamal Das to define the word God (not in relation of Allah) as it is or in and of itself stands.

A specific question what does the word God means to him that he said that the Allah is the God of Mecca?


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[ALOCHONA] More on Joy's HIR Article




More on Joy's HIR Article

Habib Siddiqui
 
http://unheardvoice.net/blog/2009/04/26/wazed-and-ciovacco-a-missed-opportunity/

The analysis above in the blog - Unheard Voices - is a thorough point by point analysis of the original HIR article by Wazed and Ciovacco. Since the publication of the article by Joy, much has been made about the value of the HIR as a journal. I am inclined to believe that if Joy was not the son of Awami League Leader, and also claiming to be her adviser, I doubt he would have seen this article accepted in the journal. Nor should we forget that it it is not an academic journal, and does not have a credible peer review board on articles. No wonder, as the Drishtipat author in the above blog has cited, there are many inconsistencies, not just with missing citation of sources of information - credible references but even with wrong English, composition, etc. The journal with the Harvard name (although nothing to do with the Ivy League school - Harvard University ) nonetheless has been able to attract articles from many politicians and policy makers around the world and is distributed around some 70 countries. It is also a pace-setter on many controversial subjects.

HIR, according to Wikipedia, was founded in 1979. In its own website it claims: "The HIR features underappreciated topics in the international affairs discourse and underappreciated perspectives on more widely discussed topics. The HIR aims to serve as a trend-setter among similar publications by directing rather than following the public's attention.... The HIR is more a source of analysis than a source of news or editorial commentary. Its main purpose is not to present facts previously unreported elsewhere. The HIR distinguishes itself primarily by serving as a forum for academic debate, rigorously applying theory to case studies, analyzing historical trends, and making informed predictions."

As the Joy and Ciovacco - article has demonstrated, the HIR does stir debate with its contents. I shall make some observations (by no means a complete or thorough one; my comments soon appeared after the original article was published, and may still be viewed in my own blogspot). The authors had clear agenda to go after the so-called Islamists in Bangladesh , and tried to paint their picture accordingly in a careless fashion that would somehow show its connection with Jamat-e Islami (JI). {We see a similar trend in Mubarak's Egypt with Ikhwan. Every Islam-centric organization - political and non-political including the NGOs - is deemed to have connections with the Ikhwan.} It is like killing two birds with one stone! Forgotten in that context was that the JI might not have any connection with such organizations, ideological or whatsoever (after all, JI believes in constitutional democracy, much like Ikhwan in Egypt , and not something those terrorists stand for through violent overthrow of the government).

Terrorism, no matter how local-centric, may sometimes be influenced by non-local events more as an expression of its anger or frustration that is vented out locally. In an electronic world of our time, it is therefore quite difficult to fight such a brand of terrorism. Examples are plenty to support my point here, from 9/11 attack in the USA to attempts on tourists in Egypt . So, the only way to fight that form of terrorism will require redressing the root cause that gives the impetus for violence.

As to the burqa or more correctly hijab issue, I believe that it is a global phenomenon seen worldwide today. The entire world is seeing a resurgence among believers to go back to their religions. It is no wonder that more than 80 million Christians in the USA today claim to be fundamentalists, believing in the inerrancy of the Bible, second coming of Jesus, Armageddon, killing of non-Christians, etc. In the last ten years, the Muslim world has also seen her share of troubles vis-a-vis the powerful non-Muslim world: how e.g., the Judeo-Christian-Hindu triangle of extremists (Likudnik-Christian Right-Sangh Parivar) has tried to undermine Muslim interest throughout the world. [Many Pakistanis, e.g., believe that India is behind much of instability in Pakistan today.] This has created a psychological pressure to look inward for many conscientious Muslims, esp. those living outside the so-called Dar-al-Islam. Many feel challenged or motivated to show their Islamic identity. Interestingly, it has also been found that women wearing conservative dress, e.g., hijab, are less likely to be harassed by others. I am sure many Muslim women can testify of the same in our crime-prone cities across Bangladesh . So, if they don hijab, it is not necessarily a statement of Islamism or fundamentalism, but may be more due to their choice of looking beautiful and yet modest, while being less harassed by loafers and goondas.

We are also seeing a polarization on social norms within much of our urban population. This is creating much confusion among the policy makers of major political parties in Bangladesh that don't want to be identified as either this or that. Thus, in spite of claims by either netris as being leaders of secular parties, they don't like appearing in public without their ghomta on. That is, both are cognizant about importance of religion or its sentimental values on wider public. Such a behavior, often viewed hypocritical, has not been uncommon in our subcontinent since the days of the Swaraj Andolon in the pre-Partition days of India . M.K. Gandhi himself exploited such religious sentiments for the sake of politics. As we can all testify, the end result has not been what Gandhi had hoped for. It was a divided India along the religious line. This is something that all leaders of the future and today need to take a serious look into.
 

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Re: [ALOCHONA] No news is good news?



Talibanization of Pakistan is not happening without people's support.
Corruption of leaders and poverty of general mass is a recipe for disaster.
The combination of religion, hopelessness and 'nothing to lose attitude' will give rise to  groups,
that's more than any government will be able to handle in bangladesh.
Terrorism task force did not help in Pakistan. It will not help in Bangladesh either.
Only way to save Bangladesh is to have honest government.
I didn't see any hope for that in last few months.



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From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] No news is good news?
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 7:38 AM



No self-righteous, inflamatory, and non-sensical "analysis" from the Munshi cabal on the impending Talibanization of their glorious motherland Pakistan? I am shocked!





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Re: [ALOCHONA] FW: From Bangladesh to Darfur: Racism leads to Genocide in the Muslim World

I am not an expert on Darfur but when  Israel is shading tear for darfur makes me think.
Situation in Gaza is worse then Darfur but one one talking about it.
Is there any natural resource in Darfur?
They are not shading tear because Muslims are killing Muslim for sure.


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Subject: [ALOCHONA] FW: From Bangladesh to Darfur: Racism leads to Genocide in the Muslim World
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Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 5:42 PM




 

To: From: tarekfatah@rogers.comDate: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:11:26 -0400
Subject: From Bangladesh to Darfur: Racism leads to Genocide in the Muslim World

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

From Bangladesh to Darfur: 

How internalised racism has permitted lighter skinned

Muslims to slaughter their darker skinned co-religionists.


Speech by Tarek Fatah

The Durban Review Conference
Geneva, Switzerland
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=164051190246

Dear NGO colleagues and delegates,

I speak to you deeply disappointed that my colleague Milly Nsekalije, a survivor of the Rwandan massacre could not share her story with all of you because in the eyes of some since she is not 100% Tutsi, she cannot have been a victim of the Genocide.
 

With Milly Nsekalije, a mixed-race survivor of the Rwadan Genocide, who was denied the right 
to speak by Tutsi activists as she was "not 100% pure Tutsi."
What does it say about the state of racism in our world when the victims of a genocide practise exclusion on the basis of the so-called purity of blood lines and ethnicities.

Worse than her exclusion from today's event is the fact that it has happened at a conference meant to combat racism, when it fact, in my opinion, whether it was yesterday's speech by Mahmood Ahmadenijad or this afternoon's barring off Ms. Nsekalije, we have turned the concept of racism upside down.

Having said that, please allow me to dwell on how racism plays out its dirty game, not just as a Black-White divide, but also as a cancer that affects relations between people of colour, often sharing the same religion, but different shades of brown or black skin.

When the issue of racism comes up, the internalised racism that devours the people of the developing world in Asia and Africa, from within, rarely comes up for discussion.

This afternoon I would like to shed some light on two genocides—one in 1970-71 and the other that continues as I speak. In both instances the root of the problem lay in how one group of Muslims felt they were racially superior to their victims, who also happened to be Muslims. In both cases the doctrine of racial superiority and the practise of institutional racism went unchallenged even after the horrible consequences of such racism was evident and for all to see.

Bangladesh


The first genocide took place in then East Pakistan, now Bangladesh and second is taking place in Darfur. Let me dwell on the Bangladesh genocide first.

In 1970 in Pakistan, my country of birth was divided between two wings; an eastern part that is today known as Bangladesh and the western rump that survived a subsequent war with India as the state we know as Pakistan.

East Pakistan was inhabited by the darker skinned Bengali people who happened to be the majority community of the country, but found themselves ruled by a lighter skinned minority from what was known as West Pakistan—separated by a 1,000 miles.

In the first 25 years of the country, the racist depiction of the darker skinned Bengalis as an inferior and incapable people became the unquestioned dogma among the ruling minority. In addition to the racist depiction of the darker-skinned Bengalis, their culture was portrayed as unislamic and being influenced by Hinduism. Their music, cuisine and attire were mocked while their language was banned and led to widespread protests and deaths in 1952.

In 1970, after suffering under the minority rule of West Pakistan for 25 years, the people of East Pakistan voted to elect a party based in their region and gained a clear majority in the country's national parliament.

However, the racist view that Bengali people were incapable of ruling the country or that they were traitors to the fair-skinned minority of West Pakistan, led to a military intervention and widespread massacres in which one million people were killed in a ten-month period.

The killing of the Bengali people by the West Pakistan army stopped only when India intervened and defeated the Pakistan Armed forces, but not before hundreds of Bengali intellectuals, professors, poets, authors, musicians and painters, were rounded up and massacred in the final act of mass murder that started with the tolerance of racism as an act of faith.

One million Muslims were murdered by fellow Muslims in an orgy of hate that defied the teachings of Islam and the very Prophet Muhammad who was being invoked by the Pakistan Army. At the root of this sad blot on Islamic history and all of humanity lay the view that people of darker skin are inferior to those for geographic reasons have for no fault of theirs, a lighter skin colour.

One would have hoped that the lessons of 1970-71 would have been learnt in the Muslim World, but the sad fact is that the ubiquitous racism that resides inside the Islamic world has faced no opposition. On the contrary there is near universal denial about this cancer, not just among the governments that rule with oppressive instruments of power, but also many NGOs and civil society groups in the Muslim world.

Darfur


The latest manifestation of racism leading to a genocide is in Sudan where the Arab Janjaweed militia and the Arab government in Khartoum has resulted in the killing of 500,000 Darfuri Muslims whose only fault is that they are Black and thus considered as inferior to the ruling classes of that country.

The mistreatment of Black Muslims by those who feel they are superior because of their lighter skin colour has been historical. Only in the Middle East can one get away by addressing a Black man as "Ya Abdi", which translates to the horrible words, "Oh you slave".

The acceptance of racism among the dominant community in the Arab world has today resulted in not just the genocide of Darfuris, but also the celebration by the Arab League of the man charged by the International Criminal Court, President Bashir of Sudan.

It is time that the medieval doctrine of the inferiority of non-Arab Muslims to Arab Muslims is laid to rest. It is necessary that Arab countries and leaders of Arab NGOs denounce this doctrine that has led to the discrimination of darker skinned Muslims by Arab governments in counties as far apart as Dubai to Darfur.

Behind the genocide of Bengal and Darfur, separated by 30 years, is the unchallenged doctrine of racial superiority of one ethnic group over another that has gone unnoticed and unpunished by any institution anywhere in the world.

This doctrine of racism has brought untold misery on the victims of this cancer, but this becomes worse when such racism is given a religious validation. In this day and age, we have fatwas from contemporary Islamic scholars who maintain that a non-Arab Muslim like me would be committing an act of sin if I considered myself equal to an Arab. 

Fatwas from the 14th century have been dusted off the shelves, re-furbished and published on on-line Islamist forums to justify the superiority of one group over the other. This has provided the moral justification to the mass murder being committed on the Black Muslims of Darfur, which unfortunately, has gone unmentioned even at this conference.

Conclusion


Let me conclude by suggesting that if racism is a mountain that we all need to conquer, then we have not yet come to a place where we can see this mountain in the horizon, let alone be at base camp. 

Ladies and gentlemen, sisters and brothers, if we cannot allow a woman to speak here because she is of mixed blood or the fact that untouchability in India is not on the agenda in Geneva, or that nations of the OIC seek the right to restrict free speech, or a demagogue from Iran with blood on his hands has the audacity to lecture us on human rights, then all I can say is that in the words of Robert Frost, we have miles to go before we sleep…



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[ALOCHONA] BDR Carnage: BNP leader, 2 sons held



BNP leader, 2 sons held

A female BNP leader of Hazaribagh and her two sons were arrested Sunday night on charge of organising a procession in favour of BDR mutineers near Pilkhana during the February 25-26 BDR mutiny.

Charges of abetting BDR jawans to flee from Pilkhana were also brought against the detainees Suriya Begum, the local BNP leader, and her sons Sumon and Jewel.

Meanwhile, the police headquarters yesterday sent papers to the police stations concerned to file 40 sedition cases in 27 districts in connection with the mutinies at different BDR units. Earlier on Sunday, the government approved of filing sedition cases against the BDR mutineers.

Sources in the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) said a CID team picked up the three from their 21/4 Birbal Kachhra house near the Bay Tannery at Hazaribagh around 8:00pm on Sunday after one of the security guards of the tannery told the National Committee, formed by the government to probe the incident, about their involvement.

Later, a Dhaka court placed Suriya on a two-day remand while her sons Sumon and Jewel on a three-day remand each after they were produced before the court yesterday afternoon with a prayer for five days remand for each.

The same court yesterday also placed 25 suspected BDR mutineers and a civilian on a five-day remand each in the mutiny case.

The court also ordered to send five other BDR jawans to jail after they were placed before the court on completion of their different terms of remand.

Meanwhile, five more BDR jawans yesterday made their statements under Section 164 of the Criminal Procedure Code confessing to their involvement in the BDR carnage.

They are sepoys Siddik Alam, Mohsin Ali, Abdur Rashid, Shamim Al Mamun and Sumon Mian.

With yesterday's statements of five BDR men, a total of 50 BDR jawans have so far made confessional statements.

Besides, the CID interrogated 40 suspected mutineers inside the Pilkhana yesterday about their roles during the BDR carnage.

SEDITION CASES

After getting the approval from the government, police headquarters sent papers to the police stations concerned to file 40 sedition cases.

Commerce Minister Lt Col (retd) Faruk Khan told The Daily Star that the government approved it at a meeting on April 26.

Sources said around 1,000 BDR members from 40 sectors and battalions would be made accused in the cases.

BDR Director General (DG) Maj Gen Md Mainul Islam told The Daily Star, "The case would be filed by the government."

According to sources, the BDR authorities provided information and lists of the BDR units where the BDR men took part in the mutinies.

Following the information and lists, the police headquarters sent a letter to the home ministry seeking approval to file sedition cases. The home ministry has already given permission in this regard.

ARREST OF SURIYA

Sources in the CID said Suriya Begum organised a procession in Hazaribagh area in favour of BDR rebels on February 25 while her two sons provided fleeing BDR jawans with cloths.

An employee of a shop near Suriya's house wishing anonymity said Suriya used to organise BNP processions in the areas but he could not say whether she organised any procession during the BDR mutiny.

Suriya is the wife of late Abdus Salam, a retied BDR Sepoy. Locals could not say immediately which post Suriya holds in the Ward unit, but said she contested for the post of councillor as a BNP-backed candidate in the last Dhaka City Corporation election.

With the latest arrest, 19 civilians have so far been arrested in connection with the BDR mutiny case. The arrested persons include ward Awami League leader Torab Ali.
 


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[mukto-mona] Re: To Mr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah.

Thanks to Ms. Kakali Adhikary for writing to me in a public forum. I have written quite a few articles both in Bangla and English on our emerging deshi culture both in Bangladesh and in India; therefore, without knowing which one is the point of reference, I cannot get myself engaged in a discussion with you.

I just visited Bangladesh and neighboring Indian states of Meghalaya, Assam, and extreme northern Himalayan parts of West Bengal (Siliguri, Kalimpong, Karshiang, Darjeeling, etc.). I was far away from the hustle and bustle of big cities like Dhaka, Kolkata, etc. I rural areas of Bangladesh, Meghalaya, Assam, and West Bengal are still in pristine shape and the culture had not changed that much. However, this cannot be said about the weird Ingo-bongo culture of big cities.

I have seen many women workers tilling the land in Brahmanbaria, Comilla, and in many rural places. The women of bengal are marching ahead shoulder-to-shoulder with the menfolks. The world is surely changing.

Good luck with your studies.

Jaffor Ullah
New Orleans

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RE: [ALOCHONA] Govt tightens noose round qoumi madrassahs



  I am reluctant to knock Deoband as if it had an unvaried track record over its existence and influence in the history and development of many types of Indian Muslim movements.
Its seminaries have produced some enlightened Islamic scholars the likes of whom would not be seen or tolerated in the Land of the Jahiliya, otherwise known as the Kingdom Saudi Arabia.
          In my opinion the madrassah system in the subcontinent, as we know it, would not have survived without the meddling of the white British colonizer sahib Education Reformers of 19th century. It was T. B. Macaulay's "Minutes on Indian Education (1835)" that brought English learning to the central Metropolitan stage, shoving madrassas in the shadowy margin where it carried on its intellectually impoverished but tenacious life.
 
           However, Dar-ul Ulum Deoband today is an important seat of Islamic learning in South Asia.  It made news last year, in February 2008, by gathering some 10,000 learned Muslims representing all Muslim schools of thought at an All India Anti-Terrorism Conference where it made a clear declaration denouncing all acts of terrorism injuring innocent people as un-Islamic.
             Try telling that to our own Jamaati leader S. A. Hannan who tries to lie his way around the atrocities occuring in Swat Valley in Pakistan saying that the pictures of the girl flogging are 'doctored." What atrocious act is he hatching and helping to finance behind our back with his inside knowledge of Islami Bank of Bangladesh?
             
                Farida Majid


To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: thoughtocrat@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:59:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Govt tightens noose round qoumi madrassahs



Hence the Deobandi school of thought in Islam, the founder of Tablighi Jamaat.


From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:54:07 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Govt tightens noose round qoumi madrassahs

I believe all of you already know that there is no madrasa in the middle eastern countries, even though they are muslim countries for long time. Even Saudi has no madrsa system of education. Earlier all they had moktoba like morning/evening quran study sessions in the mosques. Later only Egypt started an University. Then came colonizations to middle eastern countries having no educational facilities. After liberations, each country started school, college anbd university systems like ours and western countries.  Madras system started in Deobond, India.
 


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From: thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:21:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Govt tightens noose round qoumi madrassahs



What's there to control? They still don't know what kind of policy they would like to put them under. Question is, who is going to enforce the policy to regulate madrasas and what happens when BAL is no longer in power? There are good madrasas and Al-Qaeda/Jamaat/ Shibir recruiting centers. The latter ones need to be closed and the students need to be rehabilitated.


From: Ezajur Rahman <ezajur.rahman@ q8.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:45:06 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Govt tightens noose round qoumi madrassahs

 

 

 

Govt tightens noose round qoumi madrassahs
Courtesy New Age 15/4/09

DCs asked to collect info
Siddiqur Rahman Khan

 
The education ministry on Monday issued a directive to all deputy commissioners asking them to collect information about qoumi madrassahs as part of a government move to establish control over them.
   The ministry in its letter said that the government wanted to exert some control over all the qoumi, nurani, forkania, hafizia and ahle hadith madrassahs and mosque-based religious institutions.
   'At present such religious institutions are running without the control of the Bangladesh Madrassah Education Board,' said the letter.
   'You [DCs] are asked to gather information about the source of funds, number of madrassahs and their students and teachers, date of their establishment and syllabus and send it [data] to the ministry by April 23,' said the letter signed by a deputy-secretary (madrassah section) of the ministry.
   On April 1, law minister Shafique Ahmed told reporters that the government wanted to bring all madrassahs in the country under a policy guideline by registering them.
   Shafique termed the qoumi madrassahs as the breeding grounds for militancy. He said that the present activities of the militants using religion were against religion and Islam as well. 'Islam never and cannot allow such militancy.'
   The law minister's announcement came after a huge cache of arms and ammunition was seized from a Bhola madrassah, funded by Green Crescent , a UK-based charity, on Mach 24.
   Following Shafique's announcement a number of religious leaders and associations of quomi madrassah teachers demanded his resignation.
   Different intelligence agencies launched investigations into the activities of the qoumi madrassahs after the countrywide series of blasts on August 17, 2005, based on the information that these institutions provided guerrilla training to the students with a view to establishing Islamic rule in Bangladesh .
   The investigation substantiated the information and the intelligence agencies marked 323 qoumi madrassahs, where militant training was taking place. The intelligence agencies also suggested that the government should monitor the activities of the madrassahs and trace the source of their funding.
   Since there is no government control over qoumi madrassahs, anybody can set up such madrassahs anywhere in the country.
   The first-ever survey conducted by the Bangladesh Bureau of Educational Information and Statistics in December 2008 said that there were 5,230 quomi madrassahs with about 14 lakh students.
   The majority of the qoumi madrassahs are located in Sylhet, Barisal Chittagong and greater Mymensingh.

 

 






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[mukto-mona] Call for articles and promotion of the anti-Jihadist Newsline

Dear Sir,

I have started an anti-Jihadist news line named Bangladesh Jihad Watch.I feel its necessary and a need of the time to analyze the dubious policies of the Government which is leading to the gradual radicalisation of our secular nation.

I kindly request you to send articles,comments and your precious viewpoints over this newsline

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You can also do your bit by promoting my website in your blogs/sites adding it to related links section.

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[ALOCHONA] Re: 100 Days of Vicious Vengeance

I did not know lies and unfounded allegations could become facts to
WELL-PLACED, INTELLIGENT, NEUTRAL, WISE, OBSERVANT, EXPERIENCED people,
and materials for thought-provoking (?!?) article. Thanks for giving
us lesson in HYPOCRISY 100.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, maqsud omaba <maqsudo@...> wrote:
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> Attn MT Hussain
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> Thanks for your thought-provoking article with so may " little-known"
statements/facts about PM Hasina.
> I am not an english teacher. I am also not a master in english
literature/language.
> Understandably, english is also a 2nd. language for me, just like you
and majority of the readers.
>
> While reading your interesting article, I felt that the flow got messy
because of the inclusion long sentences in the article.
> And .... use of too many " unusual + uncommon english words ", took
away my excitement
> occasionally, while concentrating on Hasina's story.
>
> I hope my feedback will be useful to You. After all we are getting
quite a few well-researched articles from you in this site.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Khoda hafez.
>
> dr. maqsud omar
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> To: dhakamails@yahoogroups.com
> From: bd_mailer@...
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:38:31 -0700
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] 100 Days of Vicious Vengeance
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> 100 Days of Vicious VengeanceAuthor: M.T. Hussain
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> Propaganda for 100 days
>
> It is nothing unusual that on the 100th day of their rule of
> Bangladesh, the Awami League's third term in their show up in the
State
> power and second term of Sheikh Hasina that started in early January
> 2009 and finished 100 days has as usual with their propaganda from
> inside and from across the border, particularly in Kolkata, went
> unparallel.
> Crushing Poverty
>
> In Bangladesh, one of the poorest country in the world and with
> millions starving each day in and out for no work, no money to buy
> basic essentials including food cereal rice and wheat, in particular,
> from the open market, the question of food security is in rhetoric
> rather than in reality.
> Cereal price down
>
> Even so, the poorest of the poor should be happier that the prices of
> basic cereals have gone down for whatever reason that could not be
> clearly perceived at that level. Say, for example, the worldwide
> recession if improved, the prices of essentials would again go up
> signaling that it was a temporary phenomenon and nothing durable or
> sustainable over a long period ahead. The continuation of the VGF
> (Vulnerable Group Feeding), restart of the OMS (Open Market Sale),
> organizing food rationing for the poor, reactivating the TCB (Trading
> Corporation of Bangladesh) or market intervention, etc. left with no
> doubt that widespread poverty in the country remains a continuing evil
> ahead, for how long it's anybody's guess.
> Production incentive lost
>
> The other worrying issue is that should the price level of food
cereals
> remain low for years, productivity of all such items is certain to
fall
> for loss of incentive for the producers or the farmers in this case.
In
> such case import bill of food cereals would not only adversely affect
> the macro economy but also increased dependence on outside source for
> supply against Bangladesh's demand. That the government reduced
the OMS
> price of rice fixed earlier from Taka 18/ per Kg to Taka 16/, never to
> be able to reduce to Taka 10/ that would further shatter the
> macro-economy as had been ineptly promised in their election manifesto
> in December 2008.
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> Obama's Change and DIN BADAL
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> During the December election campaign particularly of the Awami League
> that brought them the big `win', if one would give damn to the
fraud in
> the whole matter, was that Sheikh Hasina possibly had stolen the term
> `Change' that Barak Obama coined and continued to use in his
> Presidential campaign in 2008, when by accident of history or by
design
> Hasina stayed in that country for about six months for `treatment
of
> ears and eyes' but translated in Bengali Obama's term for
"DIN BADAL".
> Unenlightened feudal mindset
>
> To me, the first and foremost change needed in Bangladesh politics is
> the mindset of the politicians, albeit, others, as well playing
> important roles in reshaping mindset of the new progeny. One may call
> it also as change of political culture of the country that we had in
> the past to something else. To what in more specific term?
>
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> Democracy misunderstood
>
> If we take the case of democracy and pluralism, first of all that
means
> equality, respect for and dignity of each and every individual, no
> matter high or low in social status. I wonder at times that the
remnant
> of feudal mindset of many of our top leaders hardly fits into plural
> democratic demand as are in practice in the West. Although I don't
> expect anything change overnight, there should have been a beginning
> somewhere that at least I expected when I heard the word DIN BADAL or
> Change that Obama had coined. That the DIN BADAL now has boiled down
in
> Bangladesh for the last one hundred days having no sign of its end
> except in reprisal and vengeance.
> Vengeance rooted back
>
> It is appreciable that vengeance of the particular genre had its root
> in early 1980s when Hasina took to politics by the magnanimous
approach
> to her of General Zia and the President of Bangladesh who had his sole
> burden to bring back Sheikh Hasina to Bangladesh from self-exile in
> India then stayed about six years. Within 17 days of her arrival in
> Dhaka, Zia was brutally killed by some elements supported by the
Indian
> Federal Intelligence Agency, R&AW (Research and Analysis Wing,
> certainly a misnomer if not anything else). She proved her
involvement,
> at least indirectly, in the killing of Zia when on the day 30th May of
> Zia's killing, she tried to flee Bangladesh through Akhaura border
once
> again to India. She was, however, apprehended by the law enforcing
> agency of Bangladesh,
> Politics for avenging father's blood
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> In an interview at the London BBC Bengali Service immediately
> afterwards, she stated in verbatim that she hated politics to take on
> to except for inflicting vengeance of her father's killing (See,
BBC's
> Serajur Rahman's item, 24 March 2009, Dhaka Bengali daily Noya
> Diganata).
> Kill ten for one
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> That she was only after blood in beastly vengeance well documented in
> various sources when in power for the first term in an official visit
> to Chittagong she openly asked her cadres to `Kill ten for
one' of
> their killed by their imagined opponents.
> Taka 50,000 advance for killing Khaleda
>
> During her 2001 election campaign tour in northern districts, as
Matiur
> Rahman Rentu had recorded in his autobiographical sketch AMAR FANSI
> CHAI, she offered the boatmen of the Ferry of the Dharla river in cash
> Taka 50,000 in advance for drowning to death Begum Khaleda Zia into
the
> river while she would be visiting that area and would cross over the
> river in that ferry. She further promised to pay another Taka 50,000
> when the drowning job would be finished.
> Orchestrated game for her father's `killers'
>
> The whole game she orchestrated for the trial of the so-called
> `killers' of her father during her first term through
manipulation of
> the State power and also giving perks on the one hand and intimidating
> the judges in the framed up trial during five years, June 1996 to July
> 2001, on the other, producing only gross miscarriage of justice in the
> so-called `murder case' that by all legal norms had been a
victorious
> coup d' etat being itself indemnified has remained in history the
most
> notorious example of her vicious vengeance.
> Humbug about war crimes trial
>
> The war crimes trial that her father made lot of humbug about and then
> abandoned for practical difficulties and moral questions involved is
> taken now in 2009 after 38 years when it is almost impossible to
> meaningfully pursue even any single case in the matter as no evidence
> is available for natural reason of time lag. Besides, Bangladesh, much
> less the government of independent Bangladesh, did not exist in the
> soil except the Government of East Pakistan; many like me would serve
> and draw regular salaries as employees of the East Pakistan Government
> until November 1971. Neither did any government in the world recognize
> the entity of independent of Bangladesh but only India lately though
on
> the 6th December and that also for legal complicacies for her waging
> war on the 3rd December. How come then the war of Bangladesh in 1971
> and so the imaginary war crime in Bangladesh during March to December
> 1971? Well, there had been civil strife and so had human rights
> violations in East Pakistan and that also perpetrated by some rogue
> elements of both sides, not of one group. That Bangladesh did not
exist
> in reality, instrument framed after that period as the so-called
> Collaborators Act of 1972 and so also the 1973 War Crimes Tribunal had
> been that provided for giving retrospective effect is certain to be
> invalid or of no legal effect as no law can be given retrospective
> effect in legal jurisprudence.
> 25-26 February BDR massacre
>
> It is argued at many levels inside the country and outside the border
> that it was only Hasina's misperceived vengeance that took lives
of
> over six dozens of valuable senior army officers in the 25-26 February
> BDR campus mayhem. That herself and some other among her close
> associates have already been proved by the fact that she is not
serious
> about bringing out neutral report on the massacre of unprecedented
> nature in history, and just buying time to make the likely report of
> their own liking that she did in the framed up case of the coup heroes
> of the 15th August 1975.
> Khaleda's Moinul Road Residence
>
> Hasina's vengeance stooped to the lowest of minimum sense of
dignity
> and lack of humane feeling to Khaleda's residence she bought in
lease
> for 99 years nearly three decades ago, and the lease to expire in
> another seven decades hence in late 2060 A.D. That was offered to
> Khaleda then by humane consideration as a helpless widow following her
> husband's brutal killings in May 1981, and she had nowhere to go
for a
> living being the widow with two young children to look after of the
> late army chief and the civilian President Ziaur Rahman. Hasina in her
> all pliant members cabinet and in Srajur Rahman's term `HUKKA
HUA' took
> the unlawful decision to cancel the lease document of the old Bungalow
> of about 40 years old wherein she lived for about 30 years with all
the
> memories of her celebrated husband and the former President of
> Bangladesh.
> 100 days of vicious vengeance
>
> Thus I would have my fully considered opinion that Hasina's 100
days in
> power of the rule should be notoriously marked by the vicious
vengeance
> and vengeance alone of the worst kind that included killings of the
> comrades of the same genre among the students not beyond knowledge of
> Hasina but that is what she entered into politics for vengeance of the
> only goal in view.
>
>
> http://www.untoldfacts.com/bangladesh/100-days-of-vicious-vengeance/
>

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