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Wednesday, September 21, 2011

[ALOCHONA] Re: FW: FW: Bangladeshi FM says no info on Tipaimukh dam construction

Hilarious how a blind AL supporter speaks of the blindness of others.

Those who are speaking against India on the issue of the Tipumaikh dam do so because they are against the Tipumaikh dam.

The fact that no work has started on the dam, according to the correspondent, is no confirmation that no work will ever start. There is already unconfirmed chatter that forest clearing has started.

If the dam is never built then those who have opposed it are entitled to feel they have made some contribution to the issue. Even if it did does mean taking an anti Indian stance.

But if the dam is built you can be sure of one thing - people like Farida will not protest it under an AL government.

It's like shooting cows in a cage...

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...> wrote:
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> Before we blindly believe the zulumgiri communalists in the form of obssessive anti-India propagandists of Bangladesh, I thought I would check the information with someone reliable on the ground.
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> Here is a response I received from Guwahati.
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> I hope this is useful for all the genuine activists who are working towards preventing the Tipaimukh dam from being constructed.
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> ~Farida Majid
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> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:53:36 +0530
> Subject: Re: FW: Bangladeshi FM says no info on Tipaimukh dam construction
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> Dear Farida
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> I had promised to check on the Tipaimukh dam and get back to you after returning to Guwahati. I have checked on it and there is no sign of work being started on it. If I get more info I shall get back to you. Bye
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> Walter
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> Dr Walter Fernandes
> Director, North Eastern Social Research Centre
> 110 Kharghuli Road (1st floor)
> Guwahati 781-004
> Assam, India
> Tel. (+91-361) 2602819
> Fax: (+91-361) 2602713 (Attn. NESRC)
> Website: www.nesrc.org
> Webpage: www.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/NESRC
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr Walter Fernandes
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 02:05 PM
> Subject: Re: FW: Bangladeshi FM says no info on Tipaimukh dam construction
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> I shall get back to you after returning to Guwahati tomorrow.
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> Walter
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> Dr Walter Fernandes
> Director, North Eastern Social Research Centre
> 110 Kharghuli Road (1st floor)
> Guwahati 781-004
> Assam, India
> Tel. (+91-361) 2602819
> Fax: (+91-361) 2602713 (Attn. NESRC)
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> Website: www.nesrc.org
> Webpage: www.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/NESRC
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Farida Majid
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 01:37 AM
> Subject: FW: Bangladeshi FM says no info on Tipaimukh dam construction
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> Does Dr. Walter Fernandez have any updated information on this crtical dam construction damaging to populations on both sides of the border?
> Farida
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> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:08:26 +0600
> Subject: FM says no info on Tipaimukh dam construction
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> FM says no info on Tipaimukh dam construction
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> The government has no information that the Indian government starts building a dam on the common river Barak at Tipaimukh, foreign minister Dipu Moni said Monday.
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> The dam in the Indian province of Monipur would have severe consequences in lower riparian Bangladesh, water experts said.According to Indian media reports construction of the Tipaimukh Damk would start in weeks.
> Dipu Moni, however, said that the two governments would sign transit agreements during Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh's visit to Dhaka in September.Asked about India's decision to build the controversial dam above Bangladesh, she said, `The Indian prime minister assured our prime minister that India will not do anything harmful for Bangladesh.'
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> `We have no information that they have done anything moving away from that position,' she told a news conference when her attention was drawn to a news according to which the government of India gave approval to build the Tipaimukh dam.
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> Asked about the Awami League led government's position on providing transit to India, the foreign minister said, `discussions are going on. I am hopeful that we will be able to sign several transit protocols during the Indian prime minister's visit.'
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> Singh is scheduled to pay a two-day official visit to Dhaka beginning September 6.`We have taken a political decision to provide the transit,' she said during prime minister's Sheikh Hasina's visit Delhi in January, 2010.She said, `Now the matter is at implementation phase.'
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> She said that the two countries `are discussing' the issue of determining fees and the use of infrastructure.`It's a long process. Nothing will happen overnight,' said Dipu Moni.She said that the Bangladesh government would also examine deals signed by other countries on providing transit with same characteristics.She said that the government was working on providing transit to India, Nepal and Bhutan under a broad framework.
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> India is about start the construction of the Tipaimukh Dam, United News of Bangladesh reported last week quoting a top official of Nipko, an affiliated company of the Indian Power Ministry, which had been entrusted to implement the hydroelectric project on the common international river Barak.
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> The official said Nipko obtained environmental clearance and received the go-ahead from the Indian central government to build the dam at Tipaimukh in Churachandpur district in the northeastern Indian province of Monipur.He also said that on receiving the go-head the company already took the necessary preparations to start the dam construction on the Barak at Tipaimukh.
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> Barak feeds two rivers in Bangladesh— the 350-kilometer long Surma and 110-km long Kushiara, the lifeline of the country's north-eastern region.India would also build a barrage on the Barak at Fuletal in Lakhipur in Assam below the Tipaimukh Dam to divert its waters for an irrigation project, Nipko said.
> The Nipko official said that the machinery and equipment for the construction were being transported to Tipaimukh and the construction engineers, technicians and workers were gathering at the site.The news that the government of India was preparing to start the construction of the Tipaimukh Dam defying protests by the people of Bangladesh and India's north-eastern region heightened worries in the region.
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> The Indian project to divert Barak waters at the upstream would, in the dry months, dry up Surma and Kushiara, which feeds the Megna, a major river system in Bangladesh, would adversely affect lower riparian Bangladesh in several ways, water experts said.But in the rainy season the release of extra flows by India would aggravate flooding and erosion in Bangladesh, particularly in greater Sylhet.
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> The problems in lower riparian Bangladesh would increase manifold due to Tipaimukh Dam, water, environment and agriculture experts warned.Water and agriculture experts said Tipaimukh would create severe water shortage in Bangladesh's north-eastern region and turn a vast arable area into arid land to threaten the country's food security and farmers' livelihood.
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> Farmers in Sylhet, Moulvibazaar, Sunamganj, Kishoreganj and Brahmanbaria are worried that griculture and fishing, which provide them sustenance, would be destroyed by the Indian dam.
> http://newagebd.com/newspaper1/frontpage/26751.htmlhttp://amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2011/07/19/93615
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[ALOCHONA] Re: Jogajog Montri's shafollo




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AL MP Roni on communication minister

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Peer Habib on communication minister

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Tareque, Mishuk among 5 killed

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'Break rules' now rules highways

About 4,000 people die in around 20,000 accidents a year for reckless driving

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Moon ride on another route stops

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Potholed highways turn into death traps

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[ALOCHONA] AL MP Gias of Gafargaon



AL MP Gias of Gafargaon



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RE: [mukto-mona] Police atrocity On Jamaat workers--editorial



Jiten sahib and other respected persons,please see also this---

On arrest of Sangram Editor and Witch hunt against  Jamaat

 

The press has reported that Abul Asad, editor of the dailySangram was arrested early Tuesday by the Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) oncharge of inciting Monday's violence in the city.Lt Col Rafiqul Islam, RAB-3 commanding officer, told The New Nation that they arrested Asad from his Maghbazar residence for his role in instigating the Jamaat leaders and activists during Monday's violence.Abul Asad, editor of the daily Sangram was given to three-day police remand. Jamaat activists clashed with police on Monday after the law enforcers obstructed their prescheduled rally at Bijoynagar in the capital.After the clash, DetectiveBranches of police arrested Jamaat acting secretary general ATM Azharul Islam,publication secretary Tasneem Alam and its central leader Ijjat Ullah.Meanwhile, BNP chairperson andleader of the opposition Khaleda Zia protested the arrest of Abul Asad and demanded immediate his immediate release. A faction of Bangladesh Federal Union of Journalists (BFUJ) also protested the arrest of Abul Asad and demanded withdraw the false case against him.   

On the other hand Dhaka Chief Metropolitan Magistrate (CMM) Court on Tuesday placed Jamaat-e-Islami leaders and activist son 19 days remand in four  criminal cases relating to  Monday's violence  on the  city street.The court of  Metropolitan MagistrateSunanda Bagchi granted 19 days' remand each of the 183 arrested jamaat leaders and workers  amidst hue and cry in the crowded court room.The defence lawyers interruptedthe remand hearing demanding production of relevant  documents and productionof all the accused before the court. While presenting their submissions they told the court that their clients were tortured inhumanly during police custody after their arrest on Monday.Under  demand from  defence  lawyers, all the 183   including  party's acting secretary general ATM AzharulIslam, publicity secretary general Tasneem Alam and Mohammad and central working committee member Ijjat Ullah were brought to the overcrowded court room at 4 pm and passed  the order  at 6.30 pmPolice sought  a total of 35 days' remand for each tointerrogate them about  Monday's  violence. But the court granted 19 days remand in four cases.     

 

It is also seen that New Nation has headlined “Several thousand Jamaat leaders, activists held across country” and reported that Police in overnight drives onTuesday arrested around 200 leaders and several thousand activists ofJamaat-e-Islami from the capital and different other districts of the country,sources said. Meanwhile, several thousandJamaat leaders, workers and activists have been sued in nine cases for Monday'sviolence in the capital, added the sources.Benazir Ahmed, commissioner ofDhaka Metropolitan Police (DMP), said on Tuesday that police would take actionagainst Jamaat leaders who were involved with Monday's violence. Police havealready colleted footage from the incident spot, he added.   

We feel police has started a vicious campaign against Jamaal leaders and workers in the name of vandalizing some transports. But why people in thousands are being arrested who were not there in Kakrail and bijoynagar area of Dhaka”. What is the reason for arresting old editor of Sangram, a major scholar of the country and police asking for his remand and getting it. We do not see police filing any case against those police who raided hospital, arrested doctor on duty and mercilessly beat some fallen demonstrators. We feel it is time now for political parties to file cases against oppressor police officials.

Remand for 19 days of about two hundred people is unthinkable. Police wanted remand for 35 days. The government and judiciary know fully well what happens in remand. We ask the government and judiciary to do something to stop abuse of remand. We are surprised that magistrate normally allow remand prayed by police knowing full well abuse of remand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:54 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Police atrocity On Jamaat workers--editorial

 

 

The other reports say – the police were totally unprepared for such massive attacks on them with lethal weapons. The carnages left behind tell me the story of Jamati-brutality instead. So many police Vans are on fire; damage estimate is 100 crore takas. This does not seem like police brutality. Police did not burn their vans, and cause these destructions. Did they? Why people are calling it - police atrocity on peaceful demonstration?  It doesn’t look like a peaceful demonstration at all. It sounds like propaganda to me.

 

Jiten Roy

--- On Mon, 9/19/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:


From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] Police atrocity On Jamaat workers--editorial
To: hkbadal@gmail.com, manzurul_1977@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:10 PM

 

 

 

Police atrocity On Jamaat workers

 As a result of Police obstructing the Jammate Islami program and subsequent police action and clash about two  hundred persons have been injured,one hundred arrested and number of transports have been damaged. We have seen in the Tv footage the merciless beating by police .Reports say that police also raided hospital to arrest the injured. The height of it is that the Superintendent of the hospital was arrested.

Apart from that senior Jamaat central leaders including AZharul Islam, the secretary General of the party ,have been arrested from Jamaat central office

UNB has reported that At least 17 vehicles including three police cars were burnt in the capital on monday as riot police clashed with Jamaat-e-Islami activists demanding release of their top leaders.Witnesses said police charged batons and fired barrage of tear gas shells to disperse hundreds of Jamaat-e-Islami activists who gathered at the Diploma Engineers Institute at Kakrail this afternoon to observe their two-day demonstration program.The pitched battle broke out at about 4pm when police obstructed the demonstrators. Soon the clashes spread out to Paltan, Bijoynagar, Fakirerpool and Malibagh areas.Helmeted police in full riot gear used dozens of tear gas canisters to disperse the Jamaat activists turning the entire area starting from Kakrail crossing to Purana Paltan and Fakirerpool to Malibagh.”

We condemn the police action.The processionists had all the right to hold peaceful protest. Police should not have obstructed the procession. The peaceful space for political action is reducing. This will increase violence for which the authorities will be responsible.The arrest of senior political leaders from their office is unacceptable. So is the arrest of a senior doctor from the hospital

 



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Re: [mukto-mona] Police atrocity On Jamaat workers--editorial



The other reports say – the police were totally unprepared for such massive attacks on them with lethal weapons. The carnages left behind tell me the story of Jamati-brutality instead. So many police Vans are on fire; damage estimate is 100 crore takas. This does not seem like police brutality. Police did not burn their vans, and cause these destructions. Did they? Why people are calling it - police atrocity on peaceful demonstration?  It doesn't look like a peaceful demonstration at all. It sounds like propaganda to me.

 

Jiten Roy

--- On Mon, 9/19/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:


From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] Police atrocity On Jamaat workers--editorial
To: hkbadal@gmail.com, manzurul_1977@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:10 PM

 

 

 

Police atrocity On Jamaat workers
 As a result of Police obstructing the Jammate Islami program and subsequent police action and clash about two  hundred persons have been injured,one hundred arrested and number of transports have been damaged. We have seen in the Tv footage the merciless beating by police .Reports say that police also raided hospital to arrest the injured. The height of it is that the Superintendent of the hospital was arrested.
Apart from that senior Jamaat central leaders including AZharul Islam, the secretary General of the party ,have been arrested from Jamaat central office
UNB has reported that At least 17 vehicles including three police cars were burnt in the capital on monday as riot police clashed with Jamaat-e-Islami activists demanding release of their top leaders.Witnesses said police charged batons and fired barrage of tear gas shells to disperse hundreds of Jamaat-e-Islami activists who gathered at the Diploma Engineers Institute at Kakrail this afternoon to observe their two-day demonstration program.The pitched battle broke out at about 4pm when police obstructed the demonstrators. Soon the clashes spread out to Paltan, Bijoynagar, Fakirerpool and Malibagh areas.Helmeted police in full riot gear used dozens of tear gas canisters to disperse the Jamaat activists turning the entire area starting from Kakrail crossing to Purana Paltan and Fakirerpool to Malibagh."
We condemn the police action.The processionists had all the right to hold peaceful protest. Police should not have obstructed the procession. The peaceful space for political action is reducing. This will increase violence for which the authorities will be responsible.The arrest of senior political leaders from their office is unacceptable. So is the arrest of a senior doctor from the hospital

 



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Re: [mukto-mona] HAVOC CREATED BY JAMATI'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Dr. Bain's comments tells me that, in my last sarcastic comments, I did not clarify my points enough; hence confusions.

 

I was looking for a cultural identity for the people of Bangladesh. I explored 3 conventional identities (Bangalee, Bangladeshi, and Moderate Muslim), which have been used in the past to represent the people of Bangladesh. But, none of them seemed to encompass all people. As a result, the identity crisis still remains, and we do not know who we are.

 

After Bangladesh was born, our cultural identity (Jatiota) was Bangalee, and our nationality was also Banglalee. Ershad changed our nationality to Bangladeshi. The motive was to include all the people of Bangladesh, so he told us at that time. Was it really the motive? If that was true – all non-Bangalee Biharis should have been citizen by now, and Father Tim, the former Principal of Notre Dame College, would have been citizen already. If you say that our nationality is Bangladeshi - then we should grant citizenship to any permanent resident of Bangladesh, if they seek one.

 

In my view, it was done purposefully to defuse pre-independence secular mindset, and neutralize the Bangalee-Jatiotabadi spirit, the spirit of independence movement. As you know, Quranic verses and state religion (Islam) were also introduced in the secular constitution right around that time.

 

Dr. Bain, Bangalee-Jatiotabadi spirit has been the driving force behind all movements in the East Pakistan since the language movement in 1952. Even though Sheikh Mujib was not seeking independence at the beginning, but his movement was fueled by the Bangali-Jatiotabadi spirit. This is the spirit that still can unite the mjority in Bangladesh. That's why - I have been asking Awami League to revive that spirit for their sake.

 

Thanks for your comments. Love to hear from you. Don't be a stranger.

 
Jiten Roy

--- On Wed, 9/21/11, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] HAVOC CREATED BY JAMATI'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 1:52 PM

 
Greetings to the Mukto-Monas; I am writing here after a long time.
 
While I agree with Dr. Jiten Roy's observation that Awami League cannot decide on a set of political principles, I see quite a few problems in his points.
 
JRoy: "That (Bangladeshi) won't work either, because – then non-Bagalees could claim citizenship in Bangladesh."
 
My Comment (SB): Is there something wrong having non-Bangalees as citizens of Bangladesh? The way I see it, the tribal people of the CHT are not Bangalees; it is wrong to make them identify themselves as Bangalees. And of course, the Bangalees of West Bengals are very much Bangalees. To me, as a national identity for the people of Bangladesh, Bangladeshi is more appropriate than Bangalee. Of course, I am de-emphasizing the messengers (Zia and Ershad) here; I am also de-emphasizing their emphasis of not identifying ourselves as close to the Bangalees of West Bengal.
 
JRoy: Not calling Bangladesh a 'moderate Muslim country', because 'it's against the spirit of independence movement'.
 
SB: Wrong emphasis, Dr. Roy. Bangladesh should not be called a 'moderate Muslim country', because that denies the the non-Muslims of that land their due recognition/rights. BTW: I think this 'spirit of independence movement' has been way overblown by the fraudulent minds of our intellectuals. Most of the population and leaders of East Bengal embraced the two nation theory of the creation of Pakistan in 1947. The superiority complex and the resulting discrimination, hatred and barbaric atrocities of the West Pakistani brothers left no choice but independence for the Bangalee Muslims of East Bengal. Secularism was not the reason for wanting Bangladesh; although it was the right thing as a pillar for the 1972 constitution, and it would always be a right thing.
 
JRoy: "At one point in around 1970, we exactly knew who we were"
 
SB: Really? The fact is that even our father of the nation wanted to get the legitimate rights of the Bangalees within the Pakistan framework, not as an independent Bangladesh. But the Pakistani military brutality left us with no choice but independence. Our independence was ensured more by the brutes of Pakistan than by 'we exactly knew who we were'.
 
Let honesty and dispassionate looks at facts guide the free minds (mukto mons).
 
Sincerely,
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] HAVOC CREATED BY JAMATI'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Mr. Musa Hossein has displayed frustration about politics (Jamat or BNP or Awami League) in Bangladesh, which tells me a lot about the current government. It appears that Awami League (AL) is suffering from political identity crisis.
 
How about if we set a goal to make Bangladesh a Homeland for Bangalees? What a novel idea! Isn't it? Some people will say – not so fast, because - if all those Bangalees from Parchimbanga comeback to claim citizenship in Bangladesh, what will we do at that time?
 
OK, let's call us Bangladeshi instead of Bangalee, which is one of many genius ideas of Ershad. So, Bangaldesh will be a Land of Bangladeshis. That won't work either, because – then non-Bagalees could claim citizenship in Bangladesh.  
 
How about calling Bangladesh a moderate Muslim country, which is the BNP theme? That's not acceptable to many either because it's against the spirit of independence movement.
 
The truth is we are confused about our national identity. We are not sure about who we are. It was not like this always. At one point in around 1970, we exactly knew who we were, and what we exactly wanted. We have thrown away our national identity after the independence of Bangladesh, and, soon after, we forgot who we are. The symptom of such amnesia started to display first in Bangabondhu, when he decided put one leg in the socialist-boat and the other leg in the OIC-boat. Slowly, the spirit of Bangalee-nationalism started to dissipate from Bangladesh. Now, we find it difficult to utter "Joy Bangla," many people, in fact, are allergic to these words.
 
While BNP and Jamat have their well defined political identities, Awami League cannot decide on a set of political principles to define their identity. That is what I see in their policies and practices. Devoid of a set of political principles, the politics of AL is just a damn big hodge-podge, which is destined to create frustration in people, just like Mr. Hossein.
 
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[mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Jamaati Havoc causes damages worth 100 Core Tak a




Government must sack inefficient Home Minister Shahara Khatun for failing to stop the damage caused by Police-Jamat fighting without any delay.Inefficiency causing trouble for this government for the past several months."Chore Palale Buddhi Bare", that became the situation in Bangladesh.
 When the Prime Minister will take action ?
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Greetings to the Mukto-Monas; I am writing here after a long time.
 
While I agree with Dr. Jiten Roy's observation that Awami League cannot decide on a set of political principles, I see quite a few problems in his points.
 
JRoy: "That (Bangladeshi) won't work either, because – then non-Bagalees could claim citizenship in Bangladesh."
 
My Comment (SB): Is there something wrong having non-Bangalees as citizens of Bangladesh? The way I see it, the tribal people of the CHT are not Bangalees; it is wrong to make them identify themselves as Bangalees. And of course, the Bangalees of West Bengals are very much Bangalees. To me, as a national identity for the people of Bangladesh, Bangladeshi is more appropriate than Bangalee. Of course, I am de-emphasizing the messengers (Zia and Ershad) here; I am also de-emphasizing their emphasis of not identifying ourselves as close to the Bangalees of West Bengal.
 
JRoy: Not calling Bangladesh a 'moderate Muslim country', because 'it's against the spirit of independence movement'.
 
SB: Wrong emphasis, Dr. Roy. Bangladesh should not be called a 'moderate Muslim country', because that denies the the non-Muslims of that land their due recognition/rights. BTW: I think this 'spirit of independence movement' has been way overblown by the fraudulent minds of our intellectuals. Most of the population and leaders of East Bengal embraced the two nation theory of the creation of Pakistan in 1947. The superiority complex and the resulting discrimination, hatred and barbaric atrocities of the West Pakistani brothers left no choice but independence for the Bangalee Muslims of East Bengal. Secularism was not the reason for wanting Bangladesh; although it was the right thing as a pillar for the 1972 constitution, and it would always be a right thing.
 
JRoy: "At one point in around 1970, we exactly knew who we were"
 
SB: Really? The fact is that even our father of the nation wanted to get the legitimate rights of the Bangalees within the Pakistan framework, not as an independent Bangladesh. But the Pakistani military brutality left us with no choice but independence. Our independence was ensured more by the brutes of Pakistan than by 'we exactly knew who we were'.
 
Let honesty and dispassionate looks at facts guide the free minds (mukto mons).
 
Sincerely,
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] HAVOC CREATED BY JAMATI'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Mr. Musa Hossein has displayed frustration about politics (Jamat or BNP or Awami League) in Bangladesh, which tells me a lot about the current government. It appears that Awami League (AL) is suffering from political identity crisis.
 
How about if we set a goal to make Bangladesh a Homeland for Bangalees? What a novel idea! Isn't it? Some people will say – not so fast, because - if all those Bangalees from Parchimbanga comeback to claim citizenship in Bangladesh, what will we do at that time?
 
OK, let's call us Bangladeshi instead of Bangalee, which is one of many genius ideas of Ershad. So, Bangaldesh will be a Land of Bangladeshis. That won't work either, because – then non-Bagalees could claim citizenship in Bangladesh.  
 
How about calling Bangladesh a moderate Muslim country, which is the BNP theme? That's not acceptable to many either because it's against the spirit of independence movement.
 
The truth is we are confused about our national identity. We are not sure about who we are. It was not like this always. At one point in around 1970, we exactly knew who we were, and what we exactly wanted. We have thrown away our national identity after the independence of Bangladesh, and, soon after, we forgot who we are. The symptom of such amnesia started to display first in Bangabondhu, when he decided put one leg in the socialist-boat and the other leg in the OIC-boat. Slowly, the spirit of Bangalee-nationalism started to dissipate from Bangladesh. Now, we find it difficult to utter "Joy Bangla," many people, in fact, are allergic to these words.
 
While BNP and Jamat have their well defined political identities, Awami League cannot decide on a set of political principles to define their identity. That is what I see in their policies and practices. Devoid of a set of political principles, the politics of AL is just a damn big hodge-podge, which is destined to create frustration in people, just like Mr. Hossein.
 
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Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [BdOsInt Monitors] BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009



Why does it matter what the last government did? NO government SINCE independence has ever done ANYTHING about this.

I welcome the wall - it should stop these skirmishes and save lives. Of course the same dividend could be achieved by building a similar wall around the Jatiya Sangsad and keeping these morons out of the rest of the country!!

Emanur Rahman, UK

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Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [BdOsInt Monitors] BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009

I condemn these inhuman killings by Indian BSF in the border.

 

But again condemning India for these inhuman killings – my questain why those (victims) fellow crossed or attempted to cross the Indian border illegally?

 

I also want to know:

  1. How many Bangalee were killed  during last Jamat - BNP era by BSF around the Bangladesh - India border?
  2. If yes, the why Jamat - BNP govt, their Ministers, leaders and their (overt and covert) supporters did not take any real action?
  3. Did the number of such fatal incidents and casualties were less or more?
  4. If number were more, then again why? And why Jamat - BNP govt, their Ministers, did not take any proper action?
  5. Why Jamat BNP govt, their Ministers, leaders and their (overt and covert) supporters did not raised their strong and deafening voices and did not demonstrate any genuine serious concern and appropriate & practical action during their era - against these inhuman killings? 
  6. If number were less - then I strongly condemn present govt for improper actions to reduce it.
  7. What is our problem (except those culprits - who are engaged in illegal "cross border smuggling" and "human trafficking") -  if India erect barbed wire fence wall along border in their own land keeping appropriate distance from Bangladesh land? 
  8. Finally why we would support and sympathize to these illegal "cross border smugglers" and "human trafficking" agents?

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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dhaka Mails <dhakamails@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Indian BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009

According to figures available with rights organisation Odhikar, 998 Bangladeshis were killed, 996 injured, 226 arrested, 957 abducted and 14 raped by BSF

India's Border Security Force has killed 193 and inured 200 Bangladesh citizens in the frontiers since January 6, 2009, when the Awami League-led alliance assumed office.

According to figures available with rights organisation Odhikar, 998 Bangladeshis were killed, 996 injured, 226 arrested, 957 abducted and 14 raped by BSF personnel or Indian hooligans and 107 went missing after being attacked allegedly by them between January 1, 2000 and August 31, 2011.

Of the victims, 75 were killed and 335 injured by the Indian civilians, while the BSF soldiers were the perpetrators for the rest of the victims.

Between January 6, 2009 and August 31, 2011, a total of 200 Bangladeshis were killed, 215 injured, 74 abducted and a woman was raped in the frontiers.Of the victims, 7 were killed and 15 injured by the Indian civilians while others were made victim by the BSF, the Odhikar report says.

The killing and other human rights violations by the BSF in the borders still go unabated despite repeated pledges made by the Indian authorities and calls by by different international organisations on the Indian government to stop such human rights violations.

New York-based Human Rights Watch in a statement on July 25 urged India to take a speedy, fair and transparent criminal investigation into fresh allegations of killings, torture and other abuses by the BSF in the border with Bangladesh.

The government of India should undertake a speedy, fair, and transparent criminal investigation into fresh allegations of killings, torture, and other abuses by the BSF in the border with Bangladesh, the statement said.

The call had coincided with India's ruling alliance leader Sonia Gandhi's brief tour of Dhaka to attend an international conference on autism.

In December 2010, the Human Rights Watch released a report, 'Trigger Happy,' documenting extrajudicial killings, arbitrary detention, torture and ill-treatment by the Indian border guards.

After the release of the report, Indian authorities assured Bangladeshi officials that such border killings would be stopped. The government announced that it would order restraint and encourage the use of rubber bullets instead of more lethal ammunition, the Human Rights Watch said in Monday's statement.

While the number of deaths by shooting has substantially decreased in 2011, the Bangladeshi rights watchdog Odhikar documented at least 17 killings of Bangladeshis by the BSF and other instances of severe abuse since January, the statement said.Local groups have documented several cases of deaths as a result of severe beatings by the BSF, the HRW said.

The Odhikar secretary, Adilur Rahman Khan, on Tuesday told New Age that the Bangladesh government must raise the issue during its formal talks with the visiting Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh and formulate an effective device to stop killing and other forms of human rights violations on the frontiers by Indians, especially the BSF.

http://newagebd.com/newspaper1/frontpage/32321.html






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