Who are 2 faced we all know, a Jamati in disguise of BNP, another JP in the disguise of
awami.
awami.
I am telling Zia himself never harp on the claim he deserve for most credit Independence,
he wouldn't stoop that level. He was a sharp and unassuming character who was who was
born in the wrong country and at right time for us. He was forced to legitimize Jamat only
after a promise from Kuwait of big loan for drilling in bay of bengal but that loan never
came through. It was Jamat and awami celebrated the killing at circuit house, it 1986 awami conspired to destroy BNP at behest of RAW and JP.
he wouldn't stoop that level. He was a sharp and unassuming character who was who was
born in the wrong country and at right time for us. He was forced to legitimize Jamat only
after a promise from Kuwait of big loan for drilling in bay of bengal but that loan never
came through. It was Jamat and awami celebrated the killing at circuit house, it 1986 awami conspired to destroy BNP at behest of RAW and JP.
Liberation was not a one man show, Zia knew more than anybody else. When mujib body laying
on stairway it was Zia who ordered army to arrange a helicopter to carry muji and his wife
for respectable burial in their village. All the ungrateful awamis will notappreciate
they left the bodies to rot for 8 hours.Most of awamis are in there for money, like wise
most of BNP are. Zia's one of the best friend was a hindu, they were golf buddies, so all
those in BNP are hindu hater are in the wrong party.
on stairway it was Zia who ordered army to arrange a helicopter to carry muji and his wife
for respectable burial in their village. All the ungrateful awamis will notappreciate
they left the bodies to rot for 8 hours.Most of awamis are in there for money, like wise
most of BNP are. Zia's one of the best friend was a hindu, they were golf buddies, so all
those in BNP are hindu hater are in the wrong party.
As to SD spreading rumor about khaled's service I will say he either lost mind or has
some kind sexual frustration or he has low opinion of women who were very close
him. Similar accusation were made regarding Hasina involving Eershad and Shamim
osmans elder brother in eighties. Why SD took a low road is beyond me, I call theses
smearing low class village politics, I hope he realize his mistake.
some kind sexual frustration or he has low opinion of women who were very close
him. Similar accusation were made regarding Hasina involving Eershad and Shamim
osmans elder brother in eighties. Why SD took a low road is beyond me, I call theses
smearing low class village politics, I hope he realize his mistake.
Language movement put the first seed of liberation movement. Since then many things
transpired without any of these liberation would still had happened but on different
trajectory.
transpired without any of these liberation would still had happened but on different
trajectory.
Even Ispahani had a role but for not so obvious reason. In 1960 when gave Ayub
gave Adamjee and Bawani very favorable financing in then E Pak but that didn't
extend the same to him, it didn't sit well with him. So He decided to support Bangla
nationalist movement. Though his son did schooling in urdu, english and not Bangla
he was a early founding member of chynaut bangla musical school in azimpur, dhaka.
He also initial support for Holiday weekly and had bank rolled top Awamis so the don't
have to work for living. Rohan soban the economist and
ghaur Rizvi dad was on also on his pay roll. We all know what role these guy played
leading upto the 71.
gave Adamjee and Bawani very favorable financing in then E Pak but that didn't
extend the same to him, it didn't sit well with him. So He decided to support Bangla
nationalist movement. Though his son did schooling in urdu, english and not Bangla
he was a early founding member of chynaut bangla musical school in azimpur, dhaka.
He also initial support for Holiday weekly and had bank rolled top Awamis so the don't
have to work for living. Rohan soban the economist and
ghaur Rizvi dad was on also on his pay roll. We all know what role these guy played
leading upto the 71.
If you can appreciate Zia or fighting for muki jodho why not do same for indian
soldiers fought on same side and vice versus . Hating indian or paki doesn't make one
patriotic only smell like tikka khan or modi.
soldiers fought on same side and vice versus . Hating indian or paki doesn't make one
patriotic only smell like tikka khan or modi.
Fajdurhat is raws RAW recuiting ground, Ghaur Rizvi is leading the efforts. He should
be under FBI scanner for working with RAW (India) in US. He Bangladeshi citizenship
gives a cover for his RAW role.
be under FBI scanner for working with RAW (India) in US. He Bangladeshi citizenship
gives a cover for his RAW role.
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:26 PM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mr. or Ms. I do not know who you are but you smell like Shah Deeldar. May be you and the Deeldar are two faces of the same coin.
You misconstrue the argument. Argument was not about strategy. Argument is about facts. Mujib said "I will be termed as traitor, I can not announce declaration of independence". We all are talking about dishonesty on the part of Awami psychophants, who contend that Sheikh in fact did announce independence just before his arrest (they not only say untrue, but they made it through Court a stupid judgement, because they can not trust on their own fabricated version). The fabrication of stories on declaration is in fact a punishable offense. If the strategy was to save people. Lets stick to it, period.
In Dhaka, that day (26th of March) at least 6000 people were brutally killed by the Butcher Tikka which included many babies. Once again, I emphasize on the word babies.
You are right that "I tends to believe without the revolt by army, police and EPR on set of liberation war
it didn't any chance of success". To galvanize freedom fighting, a declaration was needed and that declaration came from an unknown but brave Major. That has to be recognized, wheather he claims that or not. That's all. There were many political majors present at that time including Tajuddin Ahmed but they all became minor in front of that unknown Major.
Shahadat Suhrawardy
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:02:42 -0700
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Subject: Re: Must Read --- heart broken with the the true story of how coward was our Jaatir PITA-- bongo bondhu.
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If leaving people defenseless and surrendering was part of the strategy for liberation war,
then those who are trying to defend or not finding faulting with the ground realities of
unfettered access for massacre should answer the question if "glory of leaders are more
important than lives the population, that includes toddler, and babies". Even Tajuddinn
strategy is in question, did he had any plan to defend the population, just signing declaration
would not had provided even any semblance of defense for population they were professing
to fight for. He was a honest man so are many of us and that should not absolves him of
responsibilities for putting unarmed civilian at fore font of the liberation. He is no less
incompetent for the role than Mujib was; I will call spade a spade when that is in the
conversation.
Now, I tends to believe without the revolt by army, police and EPR on set of liberation war
it didn't any chance of success but life of tens of thousand babies were guaranteed to perish
under most cruel circumstances. Trying to glamorize or avoid criticizing the politician is very
irresponsible on part of any true educated when this appropriate.
India got involved only when the revolt galvanize the liberation war and the gave the fight
the critical mass Indra need to side openly with mukti B, Bdeshi should be grateful to mukti
mukti bahini and indian soldier who lost their lives in that war. Judging population and
army by one standard and judging leaders of favorite political party with another standard
is not acceptable.
The book by Ms Taj is a very welcome development and commend courage.
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:43 AM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
What Sharmin said that is the truth, and only truth on Sheikh Mujib on the declaration part. We had been telling all along same thing. But the Cowards do not adhere to the facts.
The people who are fabricating and fabricated on telegram, telex, Boldha Garden, EPR, are all belong to devil's family. Sheikh knew, when he came back from Pakistan, with a Pakistani passport, that his sychophants has fabricated some ediotic stuffs that does not make any sense and relevancy with he was thinking of at that time. Therefore, Sheikh is a co'hort of the same idiotic propaganda his psycophants had been doing. He will be responsible for this in the History of Bangladesh for all time to come. That is the reason, he will not get as honor as he should get in annals of Bangladesh history (true). 1972-1975 actions will also get into considerations.
Shahadat Suhrawardy
The people who are fabricating and fabricated on telegram, telex, Boldha Garden, EPR, are all belong to devil's family. Sheikh knew, when he came back from Pakistan, with a Pakistani passport, that his sychophants has fabricated some ediotic stuffs that does not make any sense and relevancy with he was thinking of at that time. Therefore, Sheikh is a co'hort of the same idiotic propaganda his psycophants had been doing. He will be responsible for this in the History of Bangladesh for all time to come. That is the reason, he will not get as honor as he should get in annals of Bangladesh history (true). 1972-1975 actions will also get into considerations.
Shahadat Suhrawardy
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:51:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Must Read --- heart broken with the the true story of how coward was our Jaatir PITA-- bongo bondhu.
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It is totally pointless to criticize Mujib for not signing the declaration of independence paper because it would not have changed any ground reality of that time. If anybody thinks he or she was braver than Mujib in their little hiding holes in 1971, I say, we had enough of such scoundrels and we need no more. A mere declaration would not have made Pakistanis and Razakars to lay down their weapons and head for their homeland. The war was fought and own by Muktis and Indian army. And, that is our reality.
I do have profound respect for Taj. Tragically, he was born in a wrong country and that is why his murderers are still at large. Forces like Sharmeen need to be heard. We need more such good people.
Subject: Re: Must Read --- heart broken with the the true story of how coward was our Jaatir PITA-- bongo bondhu.
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No doubt Sharmeen Ahmed is an eloquent speaker with many great democratic thoughts. However, Bangladesh has never been an American Jeffersonian country if we do a quick reality check in regards to our educational quality or our no-love for democracy ( I mean it). The killings and cheating have been with us since the get go. Democracy is not some magic pill that can be force fed to our people and we reach for some nirvana status of a true Jeffersonian democracy. The points raised by Ms. Ahmed are very valid but who are our true democrats? People, who did not hesitate to kill their opponents when it suited them? At this point, our choice is no better than choosing between two devils, who are equally corrupt, dictatorial and murderous.
It is totally pointless to criticize Mujib for not signing the declaration of independence paper because it would not have changed any ground reality of that time. If anybody thinks he or she was braver than Mujib in their little hiding holes in 1971, I say, we had enough of such scoundrels and we need no more. A mere declaration would not have made Pakistanis and Razakars to lay down their weapons and head for their homeland. The war was fought and own by Muktis and Indian army. And, that is our reality.
I do have profound respect for Taj. Tragically, he was born in a wrong country and that is why his murderers are still at large. Forces like Sharmeen need to be heard. We need more such good people.
-SD
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