I am happy that rather than dumping me as an anti Islam, a Zionist agent or an infidel (a very favourite word used by some so called Islamic humanists) you have expressed your sincere opinion. For sure you can resort to anything to free yourself from occupation and enslavement as you are doing it now by massacring your own brothers and sisters in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. God willing your emancipation is not far. It's just a matter of how many more you need to kill. Your struggle is headed by the true believers like Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahari, Mullah Omar and Baitullah Mehsud. By now in Iraq almost a hundred thousand innocent people has been killed, if you think the shias are to be killed to purify Islam, please go ahead. Condemn me and encourage those mindless thugs. When Iraq was invaded by stupid Bush where was your Muslim ummah? The custodian of Mecca and Medina are to be praised for their silence. By destroying the Twin Towers, bombing Madrid trains and London tube how far have you defeated your enemies? By constructing more mosques and compelling the women to wear hijab and niqab could you frighten your foes? Wake up, try to be equal to your adversaries, learn from them how they defeat their foes. Do not follow the vicious mullahs, follow your intellect and when you enter the mosque do not leave your brain outside along with your shoes. Ask questions, demand explanations, do not allow the imam to instil fear into your heart. Follow faith not fables or a cult. Suicide bombing will not bring emancipation, search your own soul. Don't be mad at me; slaughter your own ignorance not the person who challenges your unscrupulousness.

 

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:27:40 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: The Fatal Attraction.

 

The word Islam is not a religion, nor Islam does not imply a faith nor does it constitute a culture. The enemies of peace[Islam] can propagate whatever they choose to mean by it but the word Islam can't be a religion, nor a faith or a culture. The word Islam is just an idea which means "peace" or "how to make peace" nothing more and there are many ways to achieve its end and the Quran is a book for guidance to those who seek its[peace's(islam's)] guidance to achive peaceful coexistance among many nations or many tribes. These distinction must be instigated to those who born to be cynical of other cultural heritage.

Anyone could be disappointed at others' cultural heritage as did Akbar's brother, even Geeta and Veda were also disappointed for those idolworships who are acutally embraced and are performing paganic rituals while Geeta and Veda asked their followers not to do that. Does Akbar's brother take a issue with that too? Where is Akbar's outrage?

Akbar wrote: [[He complained why the Muslims find pleasure in the past only while disregarding the importance of the contemporary times in which they live.]]

Can Akbar hossain conherently explain why do christians, Hindus, Buddhas and Jews take pleasures in the events of the past as well? Does the importance of the contemporary time only belong to the Muslims alone? By the way what are the contemporary events that are being disregarded or ignored by the Muslims? Does Akbar not live in contemporary time while disregarding it? while clinging on a muslim name by him, does he not spitting his own saliva on his own face? Who is he tring to fool? Him or gullible of his kind?

Akbar wrote:[[This tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days is a dramatic turn in the Muslim psyche.]]

As if Akbar kinds don't have a tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days. what a joke. perhaps his kinds' psyche is fully fantasizing only for the unknown future events while pretend that he never had the bygone days. what a rediculous assertion! And wonder why does a griny old fellow should wink at the bygone days while counting his expiration date approahing?

Akbar wrote: [[This is ridiculous that non Arab Muslims disregard their own culture by shamelessly embracing pagan Arab cultures.]]

By the way what are the pagan-arab cultures anyway? And what are the traditions that the non-arab muslims has disregarded? What specific cultural events that he is suggesting for the non-arab muslisms which won't fit to redicule his culture?

Can he sketch a cultural blue print for non-Arab Muslims that does not embrace pagan cultures such as idol-worshipping? by the way, does he consider idolworshipping as pagan's culture?I heard and read that pagans used to idolworship as is the case with those who live near the river indus basin. Does it not ridicule mr. Akbar's conscience seeing those real pagans are performing those real pagan rituals?

Hope he does not redicule himself by not being forthcoming with the proper responses for those above questions have been raised for his cultural relativities to survive. I remind him that the paganic ritual of idol worshipping is not an option for his cultural relativity to survive.

Akbar wrote: [[While discussing the contemporary mindset of the some ultra zealous Islamic ideologists with a friend of mine who is a very energetic supporter of this growing platform,]]

My response: For those who support the doctrine of the war is peace are the most ultra zealots ideologues can find any Islamic doctrine inconsistent with peaceful coexistence.

Anytime anyone is enslaved, or in any way deprived of his liberty, if that person is a human being, as far as I am concerned he is justified to resort to whatever methods necessary to bring about his liberty again.

Akbar is using the Alcohona forum to create a humanitarian image, for a devil, or a devil image for a humanitarian. He takes a person whose a victim of the crime, and make it appear he's the criminal, and He is taking the criminal and make it appear that he's the victim of the crime.

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[ALOCHONA] Tipai dam will spell humanitarian disaster: LSE meet

Tipai dam will spell humanitarian disaster: LSE meet London, Aug 11 (bdnews24.com)--The planned unilateral construction of Tipaimukh Dam by India will have serious environmental, ecological, social and economic effects on the millions of people of Bangladesh and northeastern India, speakers at a conference at the London School of Economics warned. The conference, dubbed world forum, of the Voice for Justice World Forum on Sunday in London called upon the governments of Bangladesh and India to enter into a joint feasibility study before construction of any dam for a fair and equitable solution to the impending environmental catastrophe. It also underlined that as an upper riparian country India has a clear moral and legal obligation to consult Bangladesh before building any such dam. Convenor of the World Forum of the Voice For Justice, a global human-rights and justice organisation, Dr Hasanat Hussain MBE chaired the conference. British treasury minister Stephen Timms congratulated the organisers for convening its world forum in London. He told the conference that the British government will always stand by the oppressed all over the world and work with people's organisations such as VFJ to promote human rights and justice for the poor and marginalised. This was the first world forum of VFJ convened at the London School of Economics by a coalition of its European, US, Canadian and Asian chapters. It was participated, among others, by expatriate Bangladeshi academicians, experts, VFJ members and a wide cross-section of people from the British-Bangladeshi community in the UK. Abdul Moyeen Khan, former planning and science minister, and Sabih Uddin, former Bangladesh high commissioner to the UK, participated in the discussion via internet. Concerns were raised at the conference that the possible construction of any such obstruction to common rivers will create humanitarian crisis for millions of people who depend on the rivers Surma and Kushiara. A paper was also presented at the conference by Dr K M A Malik of University of Cardiff on Climate Change in South Asia with special reference to Bangladesh. The conference also deliberated on two separate papers on 'Rights of Migrants Workers in Gulf States' and 'Women's rights in Islam' presented by Dr Mahbub Khan of California State University and Hasan Mahmud, sirector of Sharia Law of Muslim Canadian Congress, respectively. Speakers stressed formal bilateral agreements between Bangladesh and other migrant-sending states with the migrant-receiving states in the Gulf, where serious allegations of violation of human rights and dignity of migrant works have been widespread. The conference called specially upon the migrant-receiving governments to respect and prioritise the human rights of migrant workers who contribute to their economies and also bring back millions of dollars in remittances for their home countries, and yet receive very little in minimum wages, working conditions, and job security in the host country. In his paper on women's rights and Sharia, Hasan Mahmud reaffirmed that Islam and the authentic Sharia promote and protect women's right in a most equitable and just manner. He regretted that the misinterpretation and distortion of these laws over time due to social and cultural biases have led to discriminatory treatment of women in many societies. Professor Anthony Booth, head of International Education, Christchurch University, Kent, UK, Prof. Shamsul Islam Choudhury of Roosevelt University, US, Dr. Abdur Rahman and Dr. Zakia Rahman of Limmeric University, Ireland, Dr. Stephanie Eaton of Kingston University, UK, Luthfur Rahman Choudhury and joint convenors of the World Forum of Voice For Justice from London, Kent, Birmingham, Manchester, Cardiff, Edinburgh and Newcastle joined in the question and answer sessions at the end. http://bdnews24.com/details.php?id=92004&cid=2

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[ALOCHONA] Indian BSF occupies vast land on Pratpur frontier in Sylhet

Indian BSF occupies vast land on Pratpur frontier in Sylhet Indian BSF troops on Tuesday suddenly massed in and occupied a vast tract of Bangladesh land on Pratpur frontier in Goainghat upazila, triggering tensions among people in the border area as they recalled a 2001 clash between the two forces.(UNB) Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) sources said the trespassing Indian border guards retreated in the face of strong position taken by the BDR jawans. According to BDR and local sources, a group of 70-80BSF members of Padua camp moved 300 meters into the Bangladesh territory at about 12 noon and entrenched their armed positions hoisting red flag. The Indian side claimed the ownership of 500 acres of land close to border pillars no 1270, 1271, 1272, 1273, said Pratapur BDR outpost commander Naik Subedar Joynul Ahmed. "BDR personnel staged instant protest, hoisted red flag and asked the BSF intruders to quit the land. But, the intruding BSF declined to leave the area. Consequently, BDR issued red alert hoisting the red flag," says a report from the area.People living in the frontier area said the BSF built up its strength after forcibly occupying the land. This created panic among the frontier people. BDR 21 Battalion Commander Lt Col Zahirul Alam said, "The BSF men had to retreat at about 1pm in the wake of tough position taken by the BDR and strong protests." Director General of BDR Maj General Mainul Islam told UNB that there have been some adverse possessions of land in India and Bangladesh since the Pakistan times. "Our position is to maintain our previous respective positions and the joint border working group will settle the matter," he said. A BDR-BSF skirmish was triggered by such possession of land in the same area by the Indian Border Security Force members in 2001, at the fag-end of the previous Awami League government's rule. In a chain action, a brief encounter occurred on the northern Burimari frontier in Lamonirhat district. An earlier UNB report from Sylhet published in The Bangladesh Today on August 9 said: "Tension was running high along Shreepur border point in Jointapur upazila as border guards of neighbouring India repeatedly walked into Bangladesh territories removing BDR's red flag. Sources said BDR have been put on high alert along the border and their presence reinforced to tackle any emergency situation. They said BSF troops frequently walked into Bangladesh territories through Amki and Mnatila border points for the last three days and were helping Indian Khasia community members capture disputed lands along the border, escalating tension in the area. Meanwhile, BDR troops hoisted red flags on the disputed lands and urged the BSF men not to cross the point, a request repeatedly ignored by the Indian border guards. The Indian border guards were also learned to have removed the red flags, prompting BDR to send a protest letter to them. BDR also asked their Indian counterpart to sit in a flag meeting to defuse the tension". http://www.thebangladeshtoday.com/leading%20news.htm#lead news-01

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You didn't have to consult Greek priest about that.In quite few surahs God advises the Muslims,Christians,Jews & another religious sect from bickering among themselves as to who will go to heaven & who to Hell. Since  they all believe in written Scriptures & in the last day of judgement it will be God who will make the final decision.

Unfortunately in later part of the Quran God seems to have lost all patience with the other religious sects particularly the Jews.They are again & again admonished,finally warned of their miserable faith to be.... 

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From: Jamil Ahmed <jamil_dhaka@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] The Fatal Attraction.

 

I was talking to a Greek orthodox priest this morning.  He said that if you really think it's not the Christean or Muslim issue. Only god will decide who will go to haven d epending on your deed. He added that prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) said the same thing. Instead of bashing other people it's better to see yourself on the mirror.            From: Akbar Hussain <akbar_50@hotmail.com> Subject: [ALOCHONA] The Fatal Attraction. To: "alochona group" <alochona@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:44 PM My 76 years old elder brother expressed his disappointment after viewing some events connected to the so called Muslim Heritage Week in Toronto. He complained why the Muslims find pleasure in the past only while disregarding the importance of the contemporary times in which they live. This tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days is a dramatic turn in the Muslim psyche. This is ridiculous that non Arab Muslims disregard their own culture by shamelessly embracing pagan Arab cultures. While discussing the contemporary mindset of the some ultra zealous Islamic ideologists with a friend of mine who is a very energetic supporter of this growing platform, I lamented them for their fatal attraction to the pre medieval ages when Islam was used to discipline the pagan Arabs. Many people really get angry when I proclaim that by accepting a foreign fait h one should not succumb to the culture of that faith because faith is basically a spirit not a culture. When Islam was shipped to the non Arab cultures the missionaries made it a package deal that the culture associated with Islam, which is a wholesome Arab culture, was also an integral part of this new faith. This worked because they made a vicious brew of faith and fear. The ultra reactionary Wahabi brand of Islam is vicious because the ideology imposes the Arab tribal culture rooted in the early middle ages which does not fit into other cultures. This so called Islamic renaissance which I call degeneration in word and spirit is a cumulative consequence of a Muslim failure to accept the competitive and complex 21st century. The sharia laws are nothing but a brew of conservative Islam and tribal laws which is totally out of tune with the contemporary times. The tendency to turn the wheel of time in the name of faith is sign of clear failure to face the realities of our times. This scourge of Islamic extremism which has blackened the face of the general Muslims can't be stopped unless the Muslims do not come out from the hallucination of the past. A vast number of Muslims gave in to this frustration and ignorance and are looking for some guidance in the dark alleys of the 7th century Arabian culture rather than their own tumultuous times. They are more prone to abreast the bygone days by mak ing more mosques, appreciating hijab, niqab and showing stupid approval for the movements like Taliban. This degeneration of spirit is driving the entire Muslim world into an abyss and creating further gap between the present and future thereby putting the posterity in an uncharted world. This plague of ignorance is so deafening that no logic works here, no pragmatic sense can make inroads. A pervasive culture of fear reigns supreme and a sense of utter resignation have taken control of the entire Muslim psyche. The different Muslim nations around the world have been held in captivity and they are gradually giving in to the architects of the fear mongers who are not ready to see reason and realities. This failure to report to the reason and the blind conviction that this dangerous tendency to hug the past will bring emancipation from the present morass is ominous. For me its outrageous to see that many Muslims who live in the west and made it their home actively subscribe to this degenerating ideology .They actively promote these ideas which emboldens the disruptive forces of Islam around the world. Islam as a faith has already lost its credibility and attractions in the non Muslim world and this should be a wake up call for any enlightened person of the faith to restore its respect by acting judiciously and reasonably. It's matter of great shame that living in the western nations enjoying their fruits of prosperity and freedom one would like to harm them. This must be considered as an act of treac hery, dishonesty and above all irreligious. Akbar Hussain Stay on top of things, check email from other accounts! Check it out.

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Re: [ALOCHONA] The Fatal Attraction.

Akbar Hussain Saddam Hussain Barack Hussain (Obama)   How Islam would fit in these three characters.   Emperor Akbar wanted to change Islam and was acclaimed by the British. Reasons for British succession today is crystal clear. Din -E- Elahi did not survive much of it we know it as crystal clear. Akbar Hussain's prodigies should be acclaimed by people whom he has lien his living. 78 years in this world is a long time, had he lived with freedom of his mind he is suppose to reflect rightly on the past and present in any term. Islam remains the same today as it was in 6th, 12th, 17th or this century - it is the people and their perception that changed. Instead of demonising Islam you are free to change your name to say Rollingstone and start believe in what ever the other religion you think 'only live with the contemporary world'. May Allah SWT guide you!    --- On Tue, 11/8/09, Jamil Ahmed <jamil_dhaka@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Jamil Ahmed <jamil_dhaka@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] The Fatal Attraction. To: alochona@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 3:44 AM   I was talking to a Greek orthodox priest this morning.  He said that if you really think it's not the Christean or Muslim issue. Only god will decide who will go to haven depending on your deed. He added that prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) said the same thing. Instead of bashing other people it's better to see yourself on the mirror.            From: Akbar Hussain <akbar_50@hotmail. com> Subject: [ALOCHONA] The Fatal Attraction. To: "alochona group" <alochona@yahoogroup s.com> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:44 PM My 76 years old elder brother expressed his disappointment after viewing some events connected to the so called Muslim Heritage Week in Toronto. He complained why the Muslims find pleasure in the past only while disregarding the importance of the contemporary times in which they live. This tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days is a dramatic turn in the Muslim psyche. This is ridiculous that non Arab Muslims disregard their own culture by shamelessly embracing pagan Arab cultures. While discussing the contemporary mindset of the some ultra zealous Islamic ideologists with a friend of mine who is a very energetic supporter of this growing platform, I lamented them for their fatal attraction to the pre medieval ages when Islam was used to discipline the pagan Arabs. Many people really get angry when I proclaim that by accepting a foreign faith one should not succumb to the culture of that faith because faith is basically a spirit not a culture. When Islam was shipped to the non Arab cultures the missionaries made it a package deal that the culture associated with Islam, which is a wholesome Arab culture, was also an integral part of this new faith. This worked because they made a vicious brew of faith and fear. The ultra reactionary Wahabi brand of Islam is vicious because the ideology imposes the Arab tribal culture rooted in the early middle ages which does not fit into other cultures. This so called Islamic renaissance which I call degeneration in word and spirit is a cumulative consequence of a Muslim failure to accept the competitive and complex 21st century. The sharia laws are nothing but a brew of conservative Islam and tribal laws which is totally out of tune with the contemporary times. The tendency to turn the wheel of time in the name of faith is sign of clear failure to face the realities of our times. This scourge of Islamic extremism which has blackened the face of the general Muslims can't be stopped unless the Muslims do not come out from the hallucination of the past. A vast number of Muslims gave in to this frustration and ignorance and are looking for some guidance in the dark alleys of the 7th century Arabian culture rather than their own tumultuous times. They are more prone to abreast the bygone days by making more mosques, appreciating hijab, niqab and showing stupid approval for the movements like Taliban. This degeneration of spirit is driving the entire Muslim world into an abyss and creating further gap between the present and future thereby putting the posterity in an uncharted world. This plague of ignorance is so deafening that no logic works here, no pragmatic sense can make inroads. A pervasive culture of fear reigns supreme and a sense of utter resignation have taken control of the entire Muslim psyche. The different Muslim nations around the world have been held in captivity and they are gradually giving in to the architects of the fear mongers who are not ready to see reason and realities. This failure to report to the reason and the blind conviction that this dangerous tendency to hug the past will bring emancipation from the present morass is ominous. For me its outrageous to see that many Muslims who live in the west and made it their home actively subscribe to this degenerating ideology .They actively promote these ideas which emboldens the disruptive forces of Islam around the world. Islam as a faith has already lost its credibility and attractions in the non Muslim world and this should be a wake up call for any enlightened person of the faith to restore its respect by acting judiciously and reasonably. It's matter of great shame that living in the western nations enjoying their fruits of prosperity and freedom one would like to harm them. This must be considered as an act of treachery, dishonesty and above all irreligious. Akbar Hussain Stay on top of things, check email from other accounts! Check it out.

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Spiritual Love

            Sefat Ullah 

                   

A soul loves you from the core of heart and soul, who meditates only of you.  

A soul admires of you, who has given you a normal life.

 

A person sacrificed his whole life for your happiness,

who feels proud of your success,

to whom you were like his shadow all the time! to whom you appeared as an ocean in the Sahara desert!

Whom did you find as a real guide of your life.

 

A person dedicated all of his efforts for your satisfaction, whom you used to say,

" I love you my darling from the core of my heart, you are the first and  the last friend in my life, I will die without you!" whom you have forgotten by imposing punishment for whole life!

   

My Darling, you misunderstood your beloved one! for whom you felt proud to be his friend,

Whom did you consider as only the best partner of your life.

 

Living in the same planet, breathing from the same air,

watching the same sun-rising and  sun- setting every morning and evening,

getting energy from the same source the sola,

having spirit from the same supernatural power,enjoying the same feelings      

sleeping in the same darkness,

speaking in the same language,

achieving  love of vertical and horizontal,

divinity, integrity, solidarity, spirituality and eternity,dreaming and working only for the welfare and freedom of the mankind all the time!

Running away ignoring speaking, smiling and kissingas before  while meeting on the way,which hurts your Darling too much!!   

for whom you made the heaven a hell!

who escaped your life from a dark world,

who brought you from darkness to light,

who established your due rights in the society, who will be loving and wishing for your mental peace and happiness  until the last day of his life!

whom you inspired to write and fight for the freedom of the deprived, distressed, helpless and backward People for bringing real peace and happiness on the earth!

 

Be happy my Darling! Long live my Darling!!

Be the happiest person on this beautiful earth!

 

 
 

 

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Sorry. I respectfully beg to disagree. I think you missed the point.
 
1. Islam is a religion.
2. 'Bygone era' to me is the orthodox movement in Islam.
 
What Mr. Hussain very eloquently tried explain is that these two doesn't have to always go hand in hand.
 
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From: arrad@ymail.com
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:27:40 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: The Fatal Attraction.

 

The word Islam is not a religion, nor Islam does not imply a faith nor does it constitute a culture. The enemies of peace[Islam] can propagate whatever they choose to mean by it but the word Islam can't be a religion, nor a faith or a culture. The word Islam is just an idea which means "peace" or "how to make peace" nothing more and there are many ways to achieve its end and the Quran is a book for guidance to those who seek its[peace's(islam's)] guidance to achive peaceful coexistance among many nations or many tribes. These distinction must be instigated to those who born to be cynical of other cultural heritage.

Anyone could be disappointed at others' cultural heritage as did Akbar's brother, even Geeta and Veda were also disappointed for those idolworships who are acutally embraced and are performing paganic rituals while Geeta and Veda asked their followers not to do that. Does Akbar's brother take a issue with that too? Where is Akbar's outrage?

Akbar wrote: [[He complained why the Muslims find pleasure in the past only while disregarding the importance of the contemporary times in which they live.]]

Can Akbar hossain conherently explain why do christians, Hindus, Buddhas and Jews take pleasures in the events of the past as well? Does the importance of the contemporary time only belong to the Muslims alone? By the way what are the contemporary events that are being disregarded or ignored by the Muslims? Does Akbar not live in contemporary time while disregarding it? while clinging on a muslim name by him, does he not spitting his own saliva on his own face? Who is he tring to fool? Him or gullible of his kind?

Akbar wrote:[[This tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days is a dramatic turn in the Muslim psyche.]]

As if Akbar kinds don't have a tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days. what a joke. perhaps his kinds' psyche is fully fantasizing only for the unknown future events while pretend that he never had the bygone days. what a rediculous assertion! And wonder why does a griny old fellow should wink at the bygone days while counting his expiration date approahing?

Akbar wrote: [[This is ridiculous that non Arab Muslims disregard their own culture by shamelessly embracing pagan Arab cultures.]]

By the way what are the pagan-arab cultures anyway? And what are the traditions that the non-arab muslims has disregarded? What specific cultural events that he is suggesting for the non-arab muslisms which won't fit to redicule his culture?

Can he sketch a cultural blue print for non-Arab Muslims that does not embrace pagan cultures such as idol-worshipping? by the way, does he consider idolworshipping as pagan's culture?I heard and read that pagans used to idolworship as is the case with those who live near the river indus basin. Does it not ridicule mr. Akbar's conscience seeing those real pagans are performing those real pagan rituals?

Hope he does not redicule himself by not being forthcoming with the proper responses for those above questions have been raised for his cultural relativities to survive. I remind him that the paganic ritual of idol worshipping is not an option for his cultural relativity to survive.

Akbar wrote: [[While discussing the contemporary mindset of the some ultra zealous Islamic ideologists with a friend of mine who is a very energetic supporter of this growing platform,]]

My response: For those who support the doctrine of the war is peace are the most ultra zealots ideologues can find any Islamic doctrine inconsistent with peaceful coexistence.

Anytime anyone is enslaved, or in any way deprived of his liberty, if that person is a human being, as far as I am concerned he is justified to resort to whatever methods necessary to bring about his liberty again.

Akbar is using the Alcohona forum to create a humanitarian image, for a devil, or a devil image for a humanitarian. He takes a person whose a victim of the crime, and make it appear he's the criminal, and He is taking the criminal and make it appear that he's the victim of the crime.

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[ALOCHONA] Re: The Fatal Attraction.

The word Islam is not a religion, nor Islam does not imply a faith nor does it constitute a culture. The enemies of peace[Islam] can propagate whatever they choose to mean by it but the word Islam can't be a religion, nor a faith or a culture. The word Islam is just an idea which means "peace" or "how to make peace" nothing more and there are many ways to achieve its end and the Quran is a book for guidance to those who seek its[peace's(islam's)] guidance to achive peaceful coexistance among many nations or many tribes. These distinction must be instigated to those who born to be cynical of other cultural heritage.

Anyone could be disappointed at others' cultural heritage as did Akbar's brother, even Geeta and Veda were also disappointed for those idolworships who are acutally embraced and are performing paganic rituals while Geeta and Veda asked their followers not to do that. Does Akbar's brother take a issue with that too? Where is Akbar's outrage?

Akbar wrote: [[He complained why the Muslims find pleasure in the past only while disregarding the importance of the contemporary times in which they live.]]

Can Akbar hossain conherently explain why do christians, Hindus, Buddhas and Jews take pleasures in the events of the past as well? Does the importance of the contemporary time only belong to the Muslims alone? By the way what are the contemporary events that are being disregarded or ignored by the Muslims? Does Akbar not live in contemporary time while disregarding it? while clinging on a muslim name by him, does he not spitting his own saliva on his own face? Who is he tring to fool? Him or gullible of his kind?

Akbar wrote:[[This tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days is a dramatic turn in the Muslim psyche.]]

As if Akbar kinds don't have a tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days. what a joke. perhaps his kinds' psyche is fully fantasizing only for the unknown future events while pretend that he never had the bygone days. what a rediculous assertion! And wonder why does a griny old fellow should wink at the bygone days while counting his expiration date approahing?

Akbar wrote: [[This is ridiculous that non Arab Muslims disregard their own culture by shamelessly embracing pagan Arab cultures.]]

By the way what are the pagan-arab cultures anyway? And what are the traditions that the non-arab muslims has disregarded? What specific cultural events that he is suggesting for the non-arab muslisms which won't fit to redicule his culture?

Can he sketch a cultural blue print for non-Arab Muslims that does not embrace pagan cultures such as idol-worshipping? by the way, does he consider idolworshipping as pagan's culture?I heard and read that pagans used to idolworship as is the case with those who live near the river indus basin. Does it not ridicule mr. Akbar's conscience seeing those real pagans are performing those real pagan rituals?

Hope he does not redicule himself by not being forthcoming with the proper responses for those above questions have been raised for his cultural relativities to survive. I remind him that the paganic ritual of idol worshipping is not an option for his cultural relativity to survive.

Akbar wrote: [[While discussing the contemporary mindset of the some ultra zealous Islamic ideologists with a friend of mine who is a very energetic supporter of this growing platform,]]

My response: For those who support the doctrine of the war is peace are the most ultra zealots ideologues can find any Islamic doctrine inconsistent with peaceful coexistence.

Anytime anyone is enslaved, or in any way deprived of his liberty, if that person is a human being, as far as I am concerned he is justified to resort to whatever methods necessary to bring about his liberty again.

Akbar is using the Alcohona forum to create a humanitarian image, for a devil, or a devil image for a humanitarian. He takes a person whose a victim of the crime, and make it appear he's the criminal, and He is taking the criminal and make it appear that he's the victim of the crime.

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[ALOCHONA] Teknaf: 45,000 children deprived of education, engaged in work

Most Teknaf villages have no schools

45,000 children deprived of education, engaged in work

Courtesy Daily Star 11/8/09

Children at the sea beach of Cox's Bazar collect dry tree leaves for fire during the time of the day when they should be in school.Photo: STARA Correspondent, Cox's Bazar

About 45,000 children are being deprived of education in Teknaf upazila as 77 out of 143 villages in the upazila bordering Myanmar have no government or non-government educational institutions.

Upazila Nirbahi Officer Md Tofael Islam said in absence of any school in the villages, a large number of children are now engaged in fishing, plumbing jobs and manual work at houses and restaurants.

Although five primary schools were set up at remote villages on private initiative, the schools facing manifold problems have remained closed for over five months.

He said they have been writing to higher authorities and various non-governmental organisations for setting up schools to bring these children under the primary education programme.

Sabrang union parishad member Fazar Rahman said, "We set up a primary school here on our own initiative for providing education to the children of the area.”

But the school has remained closed for five months due to lack of funds for paying the salaries of teachers and employees putting the future of about 600 students in uncertainty.

Four other unregistered primary schools at Moheshkhalipara, Khonkar Para, Haria Khali and Unchhiprung of Hoaikkhong union have also remained shut failing to get government assistance.

The academic life of about 1,500 students of the four schools has become uncertain as most of them are now engaged in fishing and collecting firewood from nearby forests.

 

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[ALOCHONA] Re: The Fatal Attraction.

Dear Alochok Akbar

It is the failure of centre politics that pushes many - though of course not all - to religious extremes. One cannot stand in the middle of a sea of corruption, hypocrisy, incompetence and selfishness and call to young people to come and join you in the centre. Many young people are smarter than we think. They listen to your promise of change and realise its been the same unfilfilled promise as the last 40 years. They may have only another 40 years to live - so why believe a call to join the rotten centre? Who should they trust, what should they trust and why should they trust?

They become radicalised. In Bangladesh we have not yet even begun to scratch the surface of radicalisation. Many still keep their head in the sand and think the mullas are irrelevant. We ignore them at our peril.

But lets face it.

It's easy to say that radicals aren't the real face of Islam. Then what is the real face of Islam? Who will draw and define the real face of Islam? If we continue with the easy option of 'Islam stays in your bedroom' then the radicals will define Islam in your living room and in the street.

Moderate Muslims need to claim the centre ground of Islam in an aggressive and strategic way. And in Muslim countries Islam needs to be seen to be taken seriously by the government too - not just be limited to a state janaza for a dead politician who was a lifelong atheist.

We need leadership in religion too.

If we put ethics and principle into centre politics and unambiguously claim Islam as A faith of the centre we can stop radicalisation.

Ezajur Rahman

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