''Chile kan niye geche tai na dekhei chiler pitche dour'' is a bangla proverb, meaning, a man told a second man that a falcon snatched away his (2nd man's) ear, the second man started running behind the falcon to get back his ear, not even checking whether he has his ear or not. The thoughts and life style that Mr. Enayetullh and people like him lead are quite similar. They have their icons and they are influenced by so much by their icons, that they never want to check whether their icon's sayings and guidances are true and valid or not. The acceptance by them is permanent and one hundred percent, and no change, and no adjustments, and no alternative better way to find or look for. This is the reason why they are so devoid of common sense, away from the truth, partiality expert, and busy only for the self benefit. While someone like this say someone else munafik or having peanut brain, is nothing but world's extreme stupidity.
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: junaid.sultan@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:54:10 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house
The gentleman puts all his arguments and in the end says he does not want to argue with a "peanut brain owner".
Typical, is not it.
Junaid.Sultan
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> junaid.sultan
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> Your argument sound very ridiculous. While Arabesque name supposed to be connoted to be Muslim names, that's necessarily be always true. Keith Ellison, a US senator, who happened to be a Muslim.
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> Reverse is true, many Jews & Coptic Christians have Arabesque name, they are not necessarily Muslim.
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> Mohammad As[s]ghar, either a munafiq or k'afir or atheist, can be everything but believer. Name can be deceptive, specially when everyone here is very non-personal. You need to judge people by their arguments, not name, that's silly!
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> Well, I would not argue with a peanut brain-owner!
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> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, junaid.sultan junaid.sultan@
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> From: junaid.sultan junaid.sultan@
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house
> To: alochona@yahoogroup
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 9:29 PM
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> Mr. Dev
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> At the least your name suggest that you are not a muslim. Without going
> to the argument who is eligible to be called Shaheed and who is not, may
> I know background of your knowledge for the word "shaheed" from Islamic
> perspective.
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> Mr. Avijit Dev, or what may ever your real name is, for the sake of
> religion you believe in, come out of this "munafiqat". We know, at
> present, people like you or alike you, with fake identities, are
> creating trouble in the educational campuses in particular and every
> other forum in general,only for the sake of politics. Of course with
> lies some times and half truth rest of the time.
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> Junaid Sultan
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> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "Avijit Dev" <avijit_dev@ ...> wrote:
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> > Cyrus wrote:>>I thought a "shahid" is a martyr who sacrifices himself
> or killed in a religious war.<<
> >
> > Just get this, Cyrus, that the word "religion" is foreign to Muslim
> world. The word "religion" is name for the authority of church and that
> had been replaced by political authorities in different guise in
> christian countries. And the concept of "religious war" were waged by
> the crusaders those who were/are wearing a mask of love and for them
> (crusaders) war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.
> >
> > There are no recorded history any Caliphate had ever waged war on to
> spread deen[knowledge] . and to spread knowledge[deen] as Koran says,
> don't compel people to accept deen[knowledge] . Compulsion is not the way
> of peace[Islam] but it is chaotic what crusaders always did and still
> does that in the name of "political economic guise" with a political
> state authority. This distinction must be recognised.
> >
> > As for who deserves to be named shahid? anyone who were wrongfully
> killed or murdered for creating chaos or spreading dogmas are deserved
> to be named shahid. And Shahid Zia is one of them for many people in
> Bangladesh. Just as Quran says: killing someone is killing all humanity
> and saving someone life is saving all humanity.
> >
> > For many people, late president Zia was decent, honest and was working
> for a "just cause" or to build pragmatic society instead of totalitarian
> concept that BAKSAList wanted to achieved.
> >
> > He was the father or architecture of democratic Bangladesh based on
> inclusion of all the members of the society. And it is imperative to
> form a country with all its inhabitants to have a peaceful society and
> otherwise it is chaotic, dogmatic and intentionally mobilising for chaos
> to perpetuate destability for alien causes.
> >
> > There are a few parties under the umbrella of BAL are mobilising for
> chaos in name of democracy for their masters and those should be
> recognised and should be awarded them with a tag "neo-rajakar" . And
> these neo-rajakars' masters' strategy is to divide and conquer and in
> effect, destroying a nation's industrial base and just as destroying the
> moral of a country while we remain infighting to each other.
> >
> > -- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Cyrus thoughtocrat@ wrote:
> > >
> > > almost 30 years later, I still don't understand why Major Zia was
> given the posthumous title, "Shahid". I thought a "shahid" is a martyr
> who sacrifices himself or killed in a religious war. If memory serves me
> right, he was killed by his own associates. There was no religious war,
> nor there was any self sacrifice. Just curious!
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> > > C
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