Dear Musa Sarkar;
That's a nice tactical attempt to sell vegetables in rice market (otherwise known through a popular Bangla proverb "dhaner haate oal namano") to detract popular attention. Why do you still need to run after MBI Munshi and refute what he says unless you treat that an assault on you personally or against your interests? If you have a different view or that you want to prove that the Pilkhana massacre was planned and executed by some other external or internal forces, you have all the right to prove and convince your audience. Rather than establishing your case, you are getting self-inflicted by others' statement that establishes Indian involvement. Unless Indian involvement essentially means your involvement, you have no reason to get burnt by MBI's statement. Regards. Wohid
From: musasarkar <m_musa92870@yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:45:35 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?
The people like you might consider the write-ups of MBI Munshi as holy scriptures, but to many he is nothing but a clown. His write-ups are based on unverified news source and accounts, gossips, rumors, and extreme right-wing biaed and blindly partisan media. After the Mymensingh bomb blast, he wrote the following:
.....According to Mr. Sinha (Indian External Affairs Minister Yashwant Sinha in `The Daily Star' (February 8, 2003)), Dhaka has not been sensitive to Delhi's security needs while ignoring the fact that most terrorist attacks in Bangladesh have been backed, financed, and planned by India. The Mymensingh cinema blasts clearly suggest an Indian link to that explosion which killed almost a dozen people.
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After the bomb blasts in Mymensingh district several national newspapers reported that a junior commissioned officer of the army, a former lance corporal and a civilian have been arrested on charge of spying for an Indian intelligence agency. One of the accused is charged with having supplied maps, designs, employment files of important army officials, directories of various formation training manuals, load table, move plan, permanent addresses of officers of different units, organizational structure of different units, list of arms and manpower, abbreviation books and resolutions of important meetings and other information. This particular accused sold off confidential documents to India for a large sum of money. A fact that will be conveniently forgotten by our intellectuals, press and media within a short span of time. A point that confirms my conclusions concerning the need for a new war of independence and the manner in which it will be fought and the means by which it shall be won. (From Akhand Hindustan by MBI Munshi)
Now after 1/11, we know the real bombers of almost all the terrorist attacks in Bangladesh for last 10 years were the religious terrorists patronized by the people Mr. Munshi admires the most. It was the moderate and left-leaning media (the ones he really despises) who were right about the culprits.
--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Nirob Dorshok <nistabdhota@ ...> wrote:>
> Hi Shamim & Musa:
> That is absolutely absurd and indeed slanderous. This forum must not be a haven of fools to swallow whatever you feed us. We know where you come from. Well, anyone who reads your e-mails in series can easily understand your mission and motif. No wonder if MBI Munshi turns to you as an ISI guy just because his statement is opposed to your great vested interest. I don’t want to even mention what your vested interest is. I would rather leave that with the learned Alochoks to read last 10-20 of your e-mails that will adequately and unequivocally expose your mission, vision, motif and vested interest. If your statement that MBI Munshi is an ISI member or a Pak army general holds true then you guys must be the fore-runners of RAW. Why do you feel so nervous, perturbed and agitated when the role of India or its intelligence is at issue? Remember, your ignominious blame game on Munshi or such other patriotic intellectual fellows will never derogate from their
> position rather expose your monstrous agenda assigned by RAW. Cool down gentlemen, and try to realize that if you are Bangladeshis, it is Bangladesh that deserves your allegiance and not India or any other country. BTW, we are still in dark as to what point you wanted to make out of your attribution of MBI Munshi to ISI or Pak army in your reaction to his writing below on the issue of BDR mutiny. All people of Bangladesh irrespective of different political orientations believe that the mutiny was an outcome of a conspiracy. All people, except BAKSALite-BALists, believe this was an Indian conspiracy which I believe is subject to probe and yet to be proved. MBI Munshi didn’t try to establish any further than this. However, we fail to understand why his thesis hits your sentiment to the extent that you had to brand him as an ISI or Pak army man. You may have a different opinion from him â€" you may wish to prove that it is rather ISI that is behind the
> BDR carnage. That is absolutely fine in this discourse and surely in line with democratic norm. But instead of taking that route, why do you succumb to death to hear allegations against RAW or India in general? Only a thin-skinned RAW appointed agent can react like this. Why you need to defend India even at the cost of Bangladesh's interests? You still claim as the pioneers and champions of our independence and sovereignty while treat those who defend the interests of Bangladesh as agents of Pakistan simply because they cannot afford to barter the interests of Bangladesh with India’s like you guys?
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> From: Shamim Chowdhury veirsmill@.. .
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009 9:10:56 AM
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?
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> Every reader must be aware of MBI Munshi and his ISI/Pakistan defense connection. MBI Munshi works as SENIOR MEMBER with a rank of Major General of Pakistan Defense Forum. Please go to this link to know about his long Pakistan ISI connection.
> Link: http://www.defence. pk/forums/ members/mbi- munshi.html . Once you take his background in consideration, you will understand where his write up is paid from.
> Â
> Thanks
> Shamim Chowdhury
> Maryland, USA
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "M.B.I. Munshi" MBIMunshi@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It seems that the just released army probe report into the BDR mutiny
> > missed an important element concerning the indecision in taking an
> > offensive military option against the mutineers. From the executive
> > summary that appeared in virtually all the newspapers there was no
> > mention of the cause for indecisiveness and lack of preparation and
> > readiness of military equipment and weaponry. It appears that many of
> > our senior military officers were in India on a joint training exercise
> > during those critical days. Was this mere coincidence or a pre-planned
> > exercise to divert a section of our officers and soldiers away from
> > Dhaka in those critical days? I will leave that to the readers to decide
> > but I think the nation deserves an answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > India, Bangladesh continue joint military exercise despite mutiny in
> > Dhaka
> >
> > NEW DELHI, Feb. 26 (Xinhua) -- India and Bangladesh continued their
> > first joint military exercise in West Bengal's Jalpaiguri district
> > Thursday despite an on-going mutiny in Bangladesh, reported the private
> > Indo-Asian News Service.
> >
> > The Indian Army, Air Force and Bangladesh Army started on Feb. 22 the
> > two-week exercise "to test their battlefield tactics," said the report.
> >
> > "The exercise is not in any ways affected by the developments in
> > Bangladesh," the report quoted an unnamed senior army official as
> > saying.
> >
> > Indian Army and Air Force personnel held a firepower demonstration at a
> > firing range Tuesday, while some of the most powerful weapons in the
> > Indian armoury, like Bofors guns, T-27 guns from the artillery and
> > MiG-27, MiG-17 and Cheetah helicopters took part in the exercise, said
> > the report.
> >
> > The exercise is also aimed at anti-terrorist purposes to fight
> > "terrorist and insurgency problems", said the report.
> >
> > Thousands of Bangladesh Rifles para-military soldiers staged a mutiny
> > Wednesday in Dhaka against to press for a series of demands including
> > increasing salary and getting better facilities.
> >
> > http://news. xinhuanet. com/english/ 2009-02/26/ content_10903673 .htm
> > <http://news. xinhuanet. com/english/ 2009-02/26/ content_10903673 .htm>
> >
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