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Thursday, May 28, 2009

Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?



For someone who has been pimping neoconservative, ultra-nationalistic, and ISI ideologies for years, calling others "Indian stooges" who have prostituted themselves to the highest bidder is hypocritical and laughable, don't you think? I re-read your posting and in an amusing way, I found that you were actually describing yourself, and your position. Instead of presenting evidence, facts, and reliable anecdotes, you continue to submit conspiracy hypothesis, most of which have been proven wrong by many Alochoks here. I am sure these "Indian stooges" feel that you are wrong in your assumptions, and what you present in this forum is nothing short of tabloid sensationalism.
 
You disregard, quite expectedly, that those who oppose or disagree with you are actually human beings (RAW, of course, has turned them into zombies). If history serves me right, the fascist razakars, al-badr, and Paki soldiers regarded our fellow countrymen the same way. They argued that these "Hindu sympathizers" are simply not human beings and it was their moral responsibility to eliminate them from opposing Islam, or in this case, the "holy" state of Pakistan. Nazis were not any different! Whether you agree or not, whether you feel they are RAW prostitutes or not, their opinions do matter, just the way yours does too. As an observer, I am curious to see who ultimately wins this "information warfare"; the RAW prostitutes or the ISI pimps?
 
I am glad to know that you have access to such "reputable" intelligence sources and have gathered an "wealth of information" over the years. (By the way, very cleverly subtle way to promote your paperback. Good job!) Do you assume that those who haven't read your book are lacking knowledge of the "facts" and that you are the sole authority in this area? Wow! I am simply flabbergasted.
 
I am yet to hear your perspective on the points that I raised in my posting. Do share your facts, minus the language from the ISI pamphlets. I am all ears.
 
Cyrus


From: Mashuque Rahman <mashuque@pacbell.net>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:51:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?

I personally don't have any problem when a Bangladeshi (origin) person claims to have contacts and access to Bangladesh Intelligence forces. Even if some one does not have direct access, it is not too difficult to manage to get there if he/she wants to (as almost all of us know some one in some place who can help us get there).
 
I do have major problem when someone (of Bangladesh origin) claims to have sources (I assume that means access through the sources as well) at not only Bangladesh Intelligence, but also with RAW, ISI, CIA, MI6, SVR (I am lost on this one!), MOSSAID!! Give me a break! PLEASE!
 
I must have missed out on the bidding process as I don't get paid by RAW although I don't subscribe to your beliefs (please note I did not say "your logic" as your arguments are always formed around your beliefs observing the writings I have seen on this forum). You must be making a lot just being paid by all these agencies now. Can you do me (and may be some others on the forum) a favor, and use your sources to give an update on Sunita Paul as we are missing her on the forum -- she has very similar beliefs and writings as yours and we are getting worried not seeing her presence on the forum lately (she can write at lightning speed comparable to yours I think). Keep up the "good" work, but cut down the number of sources as even they would not feel comfortable sharing inside info with you (as you might pass it on to the others) any more.
 
- mashuque


From: M.B.I. Munshi <MBIMunshi@gmail. com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:07:24 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?


Actually I have had excellent access to Bangladesh intelligence and far greater than you can imagine or will ever personally have. I have also sources on RAW, ISI, CIA, MI6, SVR, MOSSAD. If you write and work in these areas you are bound to acquire a wealth of information. So in other words all the RAW stooges here are entirely wrong and since they have not read the book either they are making wild and uncorroborated assumptions. Of course, I believe many who now hold the Indian position have actually prostituted themselves out to the highest bidder so their opinions and attitudes may be safely disregarded. Their fear is that the truth is now out it needs to be repressed at all costs. They no longer have an opinion of their own and have lost their souls so they can now only abuse and insult on instructions form higher authority. It is truly sad when you lose your identity as a human being but that is the cost of working for RAW.

--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ ...> wrote:
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> Do you have any access to the intelligence community in Bangladesh? or Indian or Pakistani intelligence community with credible intelligence reports?




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