Thanks for sending these video clips which I saw many times before. Being a thoughtful person if you believe them as true and possible I won't waste time arguing on these questions. If your anger is based on these illogical evidences and the subsequent consequences of the after effect which has profoundly enraged the Muslims, is it the right way we have reacted? This will be a prolonged discussion based on faith, history and philosophy. People make history with pragmatic ideas not based on emotions. The tragedy is some where else. Muslims are historically a quarrelsome clan; they love to kill their own to avenge their foes. The faith is basically rotten to its bottom. The preconditions of a blind faith have plagued this faith which Muhammad used to discipline his unruly tribesmen. This is a vicious circle from where Muslims could never free themselves. This is the reason an illiterate or half educated mullah still reigns supreme. This is the reason a modern but repressive regime of Reza Shah Pahlavi could be replaced by a bunch of medieval mullahs in
Akbar Hussain
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: arrad@ymail.com
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:52:52 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: The Fatal Attraction.
[[By destroying the Twin Towers, bombing Madrid trains and London tube how far have you defeated your enemies?]]
By directly accusing me for the 911 attacks if Akbar thinks that he can silence the world of freedom to question and dissent that 911 was orchestrated by Bush and his puppets Tony Blair, Rice, Mueller, Tenet, Rumsfield and Bush's puppets qualition of willing scavengers then I think, he is mistaken. Read this, you can't silence me into submission because I am exalted with the information that would clearly slaughter your ignorance about the 911 attacks.
Just the Bush's regime didn't require any proof to accuse Saudis and Egptians for the 9/11 attacks and why did US government immediately point the finger at Bin Laden, yet refuse to release the evidence? and now this Abkar is soo sure and is accusing me whether I have defeated my enemies by destroying the Twin Towers. That's a very serious charge and I take it very seriously.
I feel Akbar's supremacism is unacceptable and refuse to accept it. As for me, finding and telling the truth is the highest interest.
The truth of 911 is according to former Sen Bob Dole's chief of staff, very successful senior counselor, lawyer Stanly Hilton has unmasked the Bush junta. The following transcript of Radio Interview with Stanley Hilton by Alex Jones. All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may know the truth of 9/11.
This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. - Stanley Hilton
And I ask Mr. Akbar also to verify the following videos, so that he can slaughter his own ignorance but not the person who challenges his unprincipled rogue, conscienceless and unrestrained behavior.
The following videos were made available by the media to show the whole world:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6714356054823827684
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVH5jm06pJY&feature=related
For more videos, you can use youtube or google to search as "the secret evil of 911", "911 was an indside job", and "controled demolition" etc.
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com , Akbar Hussain <akbar_50@...> wrote:
I am happy that rather than dumping me as an anti Islam, a Zionist
agent or an infidel (a very favourite word used by some so called Islamic humanists) you have expressed your sincere opinion. For sure you can resort to anything to free yourself from occupation and enslavement as you are doing it now by massacring your own brothers and sisters in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
God willing your emancipation is not far. It's just a matter of how many more you need to kill. Your struggle is headed by the true believers like Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahari, Mullah Omar and Baitullah Mehsud. By now in Iraq almost a hundred thousand innocent people has been killed, if you think the shias are to be killed to purify Islam, please go ahead. Condemn me and encourage those mindless thugs.
When Iraq was invaded by stupid Bush where was your Muslim ummah? The custodian of Mecca and Medina are to be praised for their silence. By destroying the Twin Towers, bombing Madrid trains and London tube how far have you defeated your enemies? By constructing more mosques and compelling the women to wear hijab and niqab could you frighten your foes? Wake up, try to be equal to your adversaries, learn from them how they defeat their foes. Do not follow the vicious mullahs, follow your intellect and when you enter the mosque do not leave your brain outside along with your shoes. Ask questions, demand
explanations, do not allow the imam to instil fear into your heart. Follow faith not fables or a cult. Suicide bombing will not bring emancipation, search your own soul. Don't be mad at me; slaughter your own ignorance not the person who challenges your unscrupulousness.
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By directly accusing me for the 911 attacks if Akbar thinks that he can silence the world of freedom to question and dissent that 911 was orchestrated by Bush and his puppets Tony Blair, Rice, Mueller, Tenet, Rumsfield and Bush's puppets qualition of willing scavengers then I think, he is mistaken. Read this, you can't silence me into submission because I am exalted with the information that would clearly slaughter your ignorance about the 911 attacks.
Just the Bush's regime didn't require any proof to accuse Saudis and Egptians for the 9/11 attacks and why did US government immediately point the finger at Bin Laden, yet refuse to release the evidence? and now this Abkar is soo sure and is accusing me whether I have defeated my enemies by destroying the Twin Towers. That's a very serious charge and I take it very seriously.
I feel Akbar's supremacism is unacceptable and refuse to accept it. As for me, finding and telling the truth is the highest interest.
The truth of 911 is according to former Sen Bob Dole's chief of staff, very successful senior counselor, lawyer Stanly Hilton has unmasked the Bush junta. The following transcript of Radio Interview with Stanley Hilton by Alex Jones. All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may know the truth of 9/11.
This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. - Stanley Hilton
And I ask Mr. Akbar also to verify the following videos, so that he can slaughter his own ignorance but not the person who challenges his unprincipled rogue, conscienceless and unrestrained behavior.
The following videos were made available by the media to show the whole world:
http://video.
http://www.youtube.
For more videos, you can use youtube or google to search as "the secret evil of 911", "911 was an indside job", and "controled demolition" etc.
--- In alochona@yahoogroup
I am happy that rather than dumping me as an anti Islam, a Zionist
agent or an infidel (a very favourite word used by some so called Islamic humanists) you have expressed your sincere opinion. For sure you can resort to anything to free yourself from occupation and enslavement as you are doing it now by massacring your own brothers and sisters in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
God willing your emancipation is not far. It's just a matter of how many more you need to kill. Your struggle is headed by the true believers like Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahari, Mullah Omar and Baitullah Mehsud. By now in Iraq almost a hundred thousand innocent people has been killed, if you think the shias are to be killed to purify Islam, please go ahead. Condemn me and encourage those mindless thugs.
When Iraq was invaded by stupid Bush where was your Muslim ummah? The custodian of Mecca and Medina are to be praised for their silence. By destroying the Twin Towers, bombing Madrid trains and London tube how far have you defeated your enemies? By constructing more mosques and compelling the women to wear hijab and niqab could you frighten your foes? Wake up, try to be equal to your adversaries, learn from them how they defeat their foes. Do not follow the vicious mullahs, follow your intellect and when you enter the mosque do not leave your brain outside along with your shoes. Ask questions, demand
explanations, do not allow the imam to instil fear into your heart. Follow faith not fables or a cult. Suicide bombing will not bring emancipation, search your own soul. Don't be mad at me; slaughter your own ignorance not the person who challenges your unscrupulousness.
Akbar Hussain
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup
> From: arrad@...
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:27:40 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: The Fatal Attraction.
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> Anyone could be disappointed at others' cultural heritage as did Akbar's brother, even Geeta and Veda were also disappointed for those idolworships who are acutally embraced and are performing paganic rituals while Geeta and Veda asked their followers not to do that. Does Akbar's brother take a issue with that too? Where is Akbar's outrage?
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> Akbar wrote: [[He complained why the Muslims find pleasure in the past only while disregarding the importance of the contemporary times in which they live.]]
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> Can Akbar hossain conherently explain why do christians, Hindus, Buddhas and Jews take pleasures in the events of the past as well? Does the importance of the contemporary time only belong to the Muslims alone? By the way what are the contemporary events that are being disregarded or ignored by the Muslims? Does Akbar not live in contemporary time while disregarding it? while clinging on a muslim name by him, does he not spitting his own saliva on his own face? Who is he tring to fool? Him or gullible of his kind?
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> Akbar wrote:[[This tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days is a dramatic turn in the Muslim psyche.]]
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> As if Akbar kinds don't have a tendency to seek happiness in the bygone days. what a joke. perhaps his kinds' psyche is fully fantasizing only for the unknown future events while pretend that he never had the bygone days. what a rediculous assertion! And wonder why does a griny old fellow should wink at the bygone days while counting his expiration date approahing?
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> Akbar wrote: [[This is ridiculous that non Arab Muslims disregard their own culture by shamelessly embracing pagan Arab cultures.]]
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> By the way what are the pagan-arab cultures anyway? And what are the traditions that the non-arab muslims has disregarded? What specific cultural events that he is suggesting for the non-arab muslisms which won't fit to redicule his culture?
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> Can he sketch a cultural blue print for non-Arab Muslims that does not embrace pagan cultures such as idol-worshipping? by the way, does he consider idolworshipping as pagan's culture?I heard and read that pagans used to idolworship as is the case with those who live near the river indus basin. Does it not ridicule mr. Akbar's conscience seeing those real pagans are performing those real pagan rituals?
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> Hope he does not redicule himself by not being forthcoming with the proper responses for those above questions have been raised for his cultural relativities to survive. I remind him that the paganic ritual of idol worshipping is not an option for his cultural relativity to survive.
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> Akbar wrote: [[While discussing the contemporary mindset of the some ultra zealous Islamic ideologists with a friend of mine who is a very energetic supporter of this growing platform,]]
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> My response: For those who support the doctrine of the war is peace are the most ultra zealots ideologues can find any Islamic doctrine inconsistent with peaceful coexistence.
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