From: musasarkar <m_musa92870@yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:08:09 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Reply to Shamim Chowdhury on Tipaimukh Dam
Mr. Enayet Ullah,
Aren't you a little hypocritical here? Tipai Mukh is not a new issue.
It has been there for a while. But you sat idle when BNP-Jamaat and the
last CTG were in power. Where was your voice during their time? Your
silence was a choice, becasue it depended on who was in power.
--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@ ...> wrote:
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> Hasina or Shamim Cowdhury  can blame anyone, but, as a
Bangladeshi, we can not sit idle on this issue. Understand Bangladesh
can not fight with India, but, we certainly raise our voice and heard by
the world.
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> Silence is not a choice! Any patriotic Bangladeshi need to be aware
the consequences of Tipai Dam. It has a long term effect, irrespective
of political affiliation we all need to speak in unison. When there is a
flood, it will not mercy Awami-supporter neither BNP or Jamaat.
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> --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Jamil Ahmed jamil_dhaka@ ... wrote:
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> From: Jamil Ahmed jamil_dhaka@ ...
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Reply to Shamim Chowdhury on Tipaimukh Dam
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 7:11 PM
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> Tipaimukh Dam is not a AL or BNP issue. This is an issue of our
survival.
> I don't think Bongo Bondhu would sit idle when some thing big like
this is going on.
> http://blog. priyo.com/ politics/ 2009/08/103. html
> India will take care of their interest and that's normal.
> We should do the same. If we think as a nation that we can do it, then
we will.
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> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, eastside_peds@ bellsouth. net <eastside_peds@
bellsouth. net> wrote:
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> From: eastside_peds@ bellsouth. net <eastside_peds@ bellsouth. net>
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Reply to Shamim Chowdhury on Tipaimukh Dam
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "Dhaka Mails" dhakamails@yahoogro
ups.com>
> Cc: "Isha Khan" bd_mailer@yahoo. com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:09 PM
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> Mr. Bahar,
> During her India visit as Prime Minister, Khaleda Zia forgot to raise
"WATER SHARING ISSUE" with her Indian counterpart! ! This is called
HEADBOWING towards India. You have attended the so called Fobana in
DC!! You are not with the main stream ( Houston Fobana ), always with
the loosers ( BNP )!! So, your arguments do not carry any value!
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> --- On Mon, 6/8/09, abid bahar abidbahar@Yahoo. com> wrote:
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> Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 10:31 PM
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> Reply to Shamim Chowdhury on Tipaimukh Dam:
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> Abid Bahar:
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>  It is true, political parties are engaged more in making
profit by selling privileges than promoting the national interest.
This could be said for both the major political parties of Bangladesh .
Having said this however, Shamim Chowdhury's argument below to blame BNP
than India for the Tipaimukh dam is preposterous. It is done either from
his ignorance or at best from his political mindset. He says:
> Shamim Chowdhury:
>
> "It is obscure to believe India did not informed (sic)Â Bangladesh
about their Tipaimukh project, therefore there is a possibility that
BNP-Jamaat alliance gave a secret green signal to go ahead with this
illegal unilateral decision and India took a chance on head bowing
BNP-Jamaat government."
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> Abid Bahar:
> How can Shamim Chowdhury be so sure when he is just assuming and
saying “there is a possibility�, “it is
obscure�? How does he know for sure BNP did the "head
bowing.� to the Indian project? It is the BNP government that
raised the Farakka problem to the United Nations. Moreover, we have seen
in the Farakka dam project that India does these projects through
extreme secrecy. Farakka was completed during the liberation
war. We only know about these from Indian sources
> Shamim Chowdhury:
> People of Bangladesh learned about Tipaimukh Hydro Electric Project on
river Barak, the second largest river in the region in Manipur as well
as river Tuivai after Awami League led alliance came into power. For the
month and half we have seen numerous seminar symposium making attempt to
create awareness among common people as well as government.
> Abid Bahar:
> I myself as the member of the International Farakka Committee knew
about the dam project in 1994. Then we were asking for both the
equitable distributions of the Ganges water as well as to stop Tipaimuk
dam. This Indian dam project with many others was identified in
a map drawn by B.M. Abbas during the 70's. We have done many
seminars on Indian dam projects during the 90's and later; including one
in Dhaka in 2003 at the China -Bangladesh Friendship centre where local
and foreign experts and BNP ministers were also present while we
narrowly escaped AL's call for nationwide strikes. It is said
that hese presures led India to sign a deal with Hasina.
>  Unfortunately, Shamim Chowdhury came to know about the
Tipaimukh project only recently when India is asking the AL
government to approve the deal including to give transit through
Bangladesh .
> Indian policy here is fooling us and rule and here we have
politicians and socalled experts like Shamim Chowdhury working
as the AL analyst.
> I will not go any further to waste my time to point out Shamim
Chowdhury’s type of propaganda or spreading of ignorance as
fact but will leave the readers to find out his base on "obscure"
information and his understanding of  the Tipaimukhdam problem..
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> Shamim Chowdhury’s article below:
> BNP-Jamaat alliance was in power when Indian government finalized
Tipaimukh Hydro Electric Project in Manipur in 2003. The North Eastern
Electric Power Corporation (neepco), the government agency entrusted
with the responsibility of building power projects in the northeast, has
been handed the project. In November 2005, it floated a global tender
for the project. In July 2006, the pre-bid qualification of the tender
for the first phase wasd opened. Initially Indian government budgeted
five thousand crore for this project.
>
> The ball was finally rolling from Indian side in 2003 while the
BNP-Jamaat alliance government in Bangladesh was sleeping.
Irresponsible, incompetent Khaleda government did not utter a single
word about Tipaimukh from 2001 to 2006 while in power. It is obscure to
believe India did not informed Bangladesh about their Tipaimukh project,
therefore there is a possibility that BNP-Jamaat alliance gave a secret
green signal to go ahead with this illegal unilateral decision and India
took a chance on head bowing BNP-Jamaat government.
>
> When all the unthinkable was happening with Indian unilateral decision
only few miles from Bangladesh soil, two successive government,
Khaleda-Nizami and Iazuddin-Fokhruddin failed to raise the issue with
India and failed to inform people of Bangladesh about its danger.
>
> People of Bangladesh learned about Tipaimukh Hydro Electric Project on
river Barak, the second largest river in the region in Manipur as well
as river Tuivai after Awami League led alliance came into power. For the
month and half we have seen numerous seminar symposium making attempt to
create awareness among common people as well as government.
>
> Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's government had already started
bilateral talks with Indian counter part on Tipaimukh project.
Government has rightly decided to form two-examination committee. Out of
this two committee, one will comprise all party parliamentarians and the
other will include technical experts. Both committees will visit
proposed Tipaimukh Hydro Eclectic project as fact finding mission, from
there report Bangladesh will make its case on how to place Bangladesh
interest on Indian unilateral decision on Tipaimukh hydro electric
project.
>
> Interestingly, Khaleda-Nizami alliance government all off a sadden
wakeup from their deep sleep and trying to make some buzz ward for
political reason against Tipaimukh project, the project that they gave
secret green signal to Indian authority in 2003 selling the interest of
Bangladesh for mere political gain.
>
> The nation still vividly remembers, Khaleda Zia led her delegation to
India on 26 to 28 May of 1992 to talk to her counter part P.V. Noroshima
Rao then Indian Prime Minister. During this trip she forgot to raise the
question about not getting due shares of water from Farraka Barrage.
After coming back from the tour India , facing criticism from press then
Prime Minister Khaleda Zia acknowledged that she forgot to raise the
question with her Indian apart.
>
> This is extremely sad for people of Bangladesh that Prime Minister
Khaleda Zia can forget to raise a life and death question with Indian
authority. Interestingly while Khaleda Zia forgot to raise the Farakka
issue she signed a treaty with Indian government on June 26 1992 on
Tinbigha corridor for 999 years lease. We know among many other problems
Tinbigha is one of the thorns between India-Bangladesh relations,
Khaleda getting a chance to be in power for three times could not
resolve it.
>
> We as a nation must find all facts about Tipaimukh Hydro Electric
Multipurpose project before interest of Bangladesh is dashed out one
more time. We must stand as a nation and not allow India to erect
anything, which will be against the interest of Bangladesh . However, to
do that we must first learn about all if and but about Tipaimukh
project. I hope Khaleda Zia will disclose all facts about Tipaimukh
projects and her government's actions and deeds with Indian government
during her last stay in government 2001-2006. Nation need to know if
there was any secret deal with Khaleda-Nizami, alliance government in
2003 before Indian government gave the final authorization on this
project and formed The North Eastern Electric Power Corporation
(neepco).Shamim Chowdhury's argument below to blame BNP for the
Tipaimukh dam instead of India is at best politically motivated. He
says:
> Â
> "It is obscure to believe India did not informed (sic)Â Bangladesh
about their Tipaimukh project, therefore there is a possibility that
BNP-Jamaat alliance gave a secret green signal to go ahead with this
illegal unilateral decision and India took a chance on head bowing
BNP-Jamaat government."
> Â
> How can he be sure when he is just assuming. He says "there is a
possibility. " How does Shamin Chowdhury know it was a "head bowing
BNP-Jamaat government."
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> From: Shamim Chowdhury veirsmill@yahoo. com>
> To: Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 10:14:48 PM
> Subject: [Diagnose] Re: Fw: Tipaimukh Dam: Strong Protest coming
through political forces
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> BNP-Jamaat alliance was in power when Indian government finalized
Tipaimukh Hydro Electric Project in Manipur in 2003. The North Eastern
Electric Power Corporation (neepco), the government agency entrusted
with the responsibility of building power projects in the northeast, has
been handed the project. In November 2005, it floated a global tender
for the project. In July 2006, the pre-bid qualification of the tender
for the first phase wasd opened. Initially Indian government budgeted
five thousand crore for this project.
> Â
> The ball was finally rolling from Indian side in 2003 while the
BNP-Jamaat alliance government in Bangladesh was sleeping.
Irresponsible, incompetent Khaleda government did not utter a single
word about Tipaimukh from 2001 to 2006 while in power. It is obscure to
believe India did not informed Bangladesh about their Tipaimukh project,
therefore there is a possibility that BNP-Jamaat alliance gave a secret
green signal to go ahead with this illegal unilateral decision and India
took a chance on head bowing BNP-Jamaat government.
> Â
> When all the unthinkable was happening with Indian unilateral decision
only few miles from Bangladesh soil, two successive government,
Khaleda-Nizami and Iazuddin-Fokhruddin failed to raise the issue with
India and failed to inform people of Bangladesh about its danger.
>
> People of Bangladesh learned about Tipaimukh Hydro Electric Project on
river Barak, the second largest river in the region in Manipur as well
as river Tuivai after Awami League led alliance came into power. For the
month and half we have seen numerous seminar symposium making attempt to
create awareness among common people as well as government.
>
> Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's government had already started
bilateral talks with Indian counter part on Tipaimukh project.
Government has rightly decided to form two-examination committee. Out of
this two committee, one will comprise all party parliamentarians and the
other will include technical experts. Both committees will visit
proposed Tipaimukh Hydro Eclectic project as fact finding mission, from
there report Bangladesh will make its case on how to place Bangladesh
interest on Indian unilateral decision on Tipaimukh hydro electric
project.
>
> Interestingly, Khaleda-Nizami alliance government all off a sadden
wakeup from their deep sleep and trying to make some buzz ward for
political reason against Tipaimukh project, the project that they gave
secret green signal to Indian authority in 2003 selling the interest of
Bangladesh for mere political gain.
>
> The nation still vividly remembers, Khaleda Zia led her delegation to
India on 26 to 28 May of 1992 to talk to her counter part P.V. Noroshima
Rao then Indian Prime Minister. During this trip she forgot to raise the
question about not getting due shares of water from Farraka Barrage.
After coming back from the tour India , facing criticism from press then
Prime Minister Khaleda Zia acknowledged that she forgot to raise the
question with her Indian apart.
>
> This is extremely sad for people of Bangladesh that Prime Minister
Khaleda Zia can forget to raise a life and death question with Indian
authority. Interestingly while Khaleda Zia forgot to raise the Farakka
issue she signed a treaty with Indian government on June 26 1992 on
Tinbigha corridor for 999 years lease. We know among many other problems
Tinbigha is one of the thorns between India-Bangladesh relations,
Khaleda getting a chance to be in power for three times could not
resolve it.
>
> We as a nation must find all facts about Tipaimukh Hydro Electric
Multipurpose project before interest of Bangladesh is dashed out one
more time. We must stand as a nation and not allow India to erect
anything, which will be against the interest of Bangladesh . However, to
do that we must first learn about all if and but about Tipaimukh
project. I hope Khaleda Zia will disclose all facts about Tipaimukh
projects and her government's actions and deeds with Indian government
during her last stay in government 2001-2006. Nation need to know if
there was any secret deal with Khaleda-Nizami, alliance government in
2003 before Indian government gave the final authorization on this
project and formed The North Eastern Electric Power Corporation
(neepco).
>
> Sincerely,
> Shamim Chowdhury
> Maryland, USA
> --- In Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com, kazi Mohammad Ismail
<kazimohammadismail @ ....> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all
> > Â
> > Earlier wrote a message about Future Politics of Bangladesh will be
concentred in tipaimukh dam. Now it is clear that social, political and
civilian are coming strongly to protet contruction of tipaimukh dam.
> > Â
> > yesterday the biggest islamic party in Bangladesh, JammatÂ
organised a grand rally at Dhaka. One day before some leftest
parties (khalequzzaman among others)Â opined against tipaimukh
dam. everyday there had seminars in this issue. See the links:
> > Â
> > http://nation. ittefaq.com/ issues/2009/ 05/22/news0893. htm
> > Â
> > http://jamaat- video.blogspot. com/
> > http://www.youtube. com/bjiict
> > Â
> > http://www.kanglaon line.com/ index.php? template= kshow&kid=691
> > http://www.e- pao.net/epSubPag eExtractor. asp?src=news_
section.opinions .Opinion_ on_Building_ of_Tipaimukh_ Dam
> > http://ne.icrindia. org/tag/tipaimuk h-dam/
> > http://www.bdnews24 .com/details. php?id=77785& cid=2
> > http://www.downtoea rth.org.in/ cover.asp? foldername=
20061015&filename= news&sec_ id=9&sid= 52
> > Â
> > kazi mohammad ismail
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